Obama reminds GOP in stimulus meeting: “I won”

posted at 2:19 pm on January 23, 2009 by Allahpundit

The golden age of bipartisanship beginneth.

During a morning meeting with congressional leaders from both parties, President Obama acknowledged the philosophical differences between his stimulus package and the Republican plan – but, sources familiar with the conversation said, Obama then noted: “I won.”…

But perhaps taking a cue from Obama’s “I won” line when Democrats were asked if they were concerned about Republicans blocking the package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had a swift one-word answer: “No.”

Vintage O: Always willing to hear the other side out, never willing to actually vote with them. Here’s where we pause a moment to daydream about what a difference 45 Senate seats would have made instead of 41, then come to our senses and realize that it would have made no difference at all. The GOP’s simply not going to obstruct Hopenchange this early, when he has this much goodwill from the public, when the economic circumstances are this dire, and when even conservative economists are endorsing some sort of stimulus.

Just how rancid is this crap sandwich, anyway? Even David Brooks thinks it’s too much of a liberal Christmas tree:

This $825 billion bill has to be passed within weeks. There’s no time for fundamental rethinking or new approaches. Instead, there’s a sloppy profusion of 152 different appropriations — off-the-shelf ideas that mostly create costlier versions of the status quo.

The committee staff took the kernel of President Obama’s vision — infrastructure programs to create jobs — and surrounded it with an undisciplined sprawl of health, education, entitlement and other spending. There’s money for nurse training, Medicare, Head Start, boatyard support, home weatherization and so on. Eleven of the programs in the bill account for the vast majority of the actual job creation. The rest may be worthy or not, but they have little to do with stimulus. The total package is so diffuse, it costs $223,000 to create a single job.

McConnell and Boehner put on a brave face after the meeting but there’s simply nothing they can do. Skip ahead to the end for an inkling of the super-secret plan to jumpstart the economy with hundreds of millions of dollars for contraception.



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The man is just so incredibly gracious! Like a third grader…I’m surprised he didn’t stick his tongue out after uttering something so juvenile.

Army Brat on January 24, 2009 at 3:40 AM

greasing the skids

rob verdi on January 24, 2009 at 3:43 AM

Well, at least he did not bust out laughing when the gop proposed their only idea.

Tax cuts. Same ole failed ideology.

Next they will propose deregulations for Wall Street.

Geeeeeez.

getalife on January 23, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Read the package. There’s at least a quarter trillion dollars in tax cuts.

Chuck Schick on January 24, 2009 at 3:43 AM

Only 1,428 till January 22, 2013.

Tommy_G on January 24, 2009 at 3:57 AM

Obama will overreach. In the meantime, Republicans say “no” to Obama’s program and states what should be done instead.

Phil Byler on January 24, 2009 at 6:58 AM

Only 1,428 till January 22, 2013.

Tommy_G on January 24, 2009 at 3:57 AM

If this country can make it till then with an ILLEGAL ALIEN in charge!!!!!!!

BobAnthony on January 24, 2009 at 7:34 AM

If talk and bs can refloat this country we’ll be ok.

dhimwit on January 24, 2009 at 8:06 AM

“I won.” Really? I must have missed the obvious.

What on earth is Obama going to do when he “Loses” for the first time in his young career? Don’t forget that this is his first real job with any responsibility of any sort.

JAW on January 24, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Conservatism is truly f’d for the next few years.

BierManVA on January 23, 2009 at 2:43 PM

We’re in this together. Should read “Conservatism and Libertarianism are f’d for the next few years.

But really, I don’t think we are. If we’re divided, Libertarian against Conservative and vice-versa, than we truly are f’d. But if we unite both wings of the Right, we’re unbeatable.

Problem last few years is that the Conservatives forgot about their Libertarian buddies. And us Libertarians, did take a hike on the coalition. (I was one of the few to hang on with your guys.)

But now our Libertarian movement is back! And with a vengeance.

Conservative friends: We Libertarians got y’all’s back. Now let’s kick this Socialist scumbags ass back to his Grandma’s hut in that little Kenyan village, from whence he came.

ericdondero on January 24, 2009 at 8:31 AM

My only conciliation is that McCain wouldn’t have been much better and even on the things he would have been better at, he would have caved to the democrats anyway. Better let Obama and his party own this disaster. Don’t you love how a few months ago deficits where the worst thing ever and now that they’re in complete control they’re talking about deficits in the trillions? I doubt Keynes would approve of this (as bad an economist as he was).

Ann NY on January 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM

Washingtobama Window Dressing.

Hear no evil; speak no evil; see no evil.

“You can’t just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done,” Obama told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to insult. The White House official confirming that comment was a nameless weenie.

Gloating over Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, Obama shot out, “I WON. I will trump you on that.”

Diplobamacy.

“He aims to get his way on [his] stimulus package and all other legislation,” sources said. He’s used to having his cake and eating it, too; but never sharing his cake with the people. As Michelle put it, “What would that do for my children?”

“How you can spend hundreds of millions on contraceptives,” House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) asked. “How does that stimulate the economy?”

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, “”The president is certainly going to listen to any ideas” [EXCEPT from Republicans, particularly from Rush Limbaugh]. We must act quickly to stimulate, create, put money condoms back in people’s pockets.

Populism. Democrats haven’t the faintest idea how to responsibly secure the economy, only how to ruin stability. So they fall back on The One’s pocket change currency: condoms, not cash, not manna.

DISTRACTION.

That’s his hope’n’change to believe in.

maverick muse on January 24, 2009 at 8:51 AM

so with that said, now let him go into his back room with his gang and run the country. They’ll come out and tell us things when they feel we need to know. UH, this is a free country and we are to be in on whatever it is your doing there Mr. Bomma. Its not some secret dictatorship like your trying to make it.

johnnyU on January 24, 2009 at 9:22 AM

So Obama has made it all the way to grade school now?

NoFanofLibs on January 24, 2009 at 9:24 AM

OUR GUYS NEED TO BUTCH UP! STAND UP! OPEN YOUR MOUTHS!

marklmail on January 24, 2009 at 9:35 AM

As VP Biden said not too long back, “the presidency is no place for on the job training!” Hip hip hurray, the MSM, the dull uneducated masses, ACORN, fraud, etc. did a magnificent job getting him in this expensive training school.

wepeople on January 24, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Obama reminds the GOP. I won….

I’d like to remind the GOP what a true Republican stand for!

“Gov. Sarah Palin announced in her State of the State Speech on Thursday night that she wants to freeze all state hiring except for public safety but also pursue ambitious projects like a road to Nome. … Palin acknowledged that the state is facing a potential budget deficit of more than a billion dollars as a result of the drop in oil prices. She didn’t propose specific cuts to government programs but said she wants to freeze state hiring as well as restrict ‘non-essential purchases.’ She didn’t elaborate on what those are. … The governor said she learned about fighting against long odds, protecting family and putting ‘Country First,’ referring to John McCain’s campaign motto, ‘even when voters put you second,’” meaning her loss as the running mate to Senator McCain. “Palin has previously said she’s not enthusiastic about the state helping pay for the in-state pipeline but wants to work with private business to make it happen. She hasn’t laid out a plan, but that could change with the bill she said she would introduce next month.”

Now, if Republicans would support Sarah Palin she could still provide an attractive reminder of what a conservative leader can accomplish when they cut the size of government. If she actually succeeds in this, I guarantee you she will get rid of the budget deficit of nearly a billion dollars. She’s going to develop local energy sources that are sufficient to run local businesses and homes, self-sufficiently, and running a straightforward administration. So I think this is good. Let’s keep an eye on her. Let’s keep an eye on this and see how it works.

Keemo on January 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM

“I won,” he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. “I will trump you on that.”

The response was to the objection by Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Arizona) to the president’s proposal to increase benefits for low-income workers who don’t owe federal income taxes.

Increased “benefits” (i.e. welfare payments) for people who don’t pay taxes. Paid for by the people who do pay taxes.

The only thing this “stimulus” bill is really designed to stimulate is more Democratic votes for Obama and company in 2010 and 2012. Obama knows his base — the entitlement crowd and the latte liberal/greenie crowd. That’s why the “stimulus” bill is full of goodies designed to make them happy (e.g., more welfare/unemployment benefits, more funding for public radio/t.v., etc.). It won’t create any real jobs, and it won’t do anything to help the economy. It’s just a giant list of pork spending that will help keep Democrats in office.

This “stimulus” bill is a Democratic wet dream. Let them own it, and when the real bill comes due for it (massive inflation, downgrading of U.S. creditworthiness status, etc.), let them own that too.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2009 at 9:51 AM

AZCoyote — Most excellent plan. The trouble is making them own it. You mean own it like they owned the Community Reinvestment Act (and the policies of Fannie and Freddie that they designed) causing the mortgage meltdown? The oil shortage of the mid-2000s that they set up by fighting the Bush Energy Plan ( with help from their enviromental rules that impede the production of any energy but the most inefficient) proposed when he took office? And a few other fiascos I can name? Ok, Ok — just make sure that they get the blame!

IlikedAUH2O on January 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I think if I were a Republican Senator I’d remember this when Obama nominates his first judges.

drjohn on January 24, 2009 at 11:01 AM

IlikedAUH2O on January 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Goldwater fan: the Democrats have the votes to pass it, and they’ve made it clear they’re going to do it. All I’m saying is that Republicans should all vote against it (and not allow the inclusion of a few tax cuts to persuade them to go along), and then they should be on television, radio, the internet, etc., telling voters why they voted against it. In a year or so, when it’s obvious that it hasn’t helped the economy and has only made our situation worse (by increasing our debt burden and devaluing our dollars), the voters will know who to blame.

If there was a realistic chance that the Republicans could convince the Democrats not to pursue this insane “stimulus” policy, I’d say do it. But Obama (“I won”) and the Democrats have made it clear they’re not interested in anything other than pushing through their own agenda. So let them do it and don’t give them any cover. Since it’s going to happen anyway, let them take the blame. And yes, who gets the blame from the voters does matter, because it will determine who voters choose to support in 2010 and 2012.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

AZCoyote on January 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Agreed. There’s no way the Republicans can stop it from going through. What they have to do is to overwhelmingly vote against it and then drive that point home every day every hour and in every media outlet possible that this and the inevitable disaster to follow is all of the Democrats’ making. They also have to say: “This is what we offered, it would have worked, but the Democrats and Bambi would not listen.” Let Bambi and the ‘crats own it all and make sure everyone knows they do–and keep reminding everyone about it.

Matt Helm on January 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM

We have a child in Office. We will be the ones that he will play with. And he won’t play nice either.

sheebe on January 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM

We have a child in Office. We will be the ones that he will play with. And he won’t play nice either.

sheebe on January 24, 2009 at 1:14

PM

Ohhh, that’s cold. Where is all the Hopey/Changie spirit?

N4646W on January 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Even if the Republicans had only 20 Senators in the Senate, they could be a force to be reckon with, if they had the backing of the people. To do that they need to regain the trust they lost and unify and then with a loud voice get people to pay attention to them. Until they do that, the Republican party will continue to die.

Conservative Voice on January 24, 2009 at 1:30 PM

We have a child in Office. We will be the ones that he will play with. And he won’t play nice either.

sheebe on January 24, 2009 at 1:14

PM

Ohhh, that’s cold. Where is all the Hopey/Changie spirit?

N4646W on January 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Hey hubby, Now I know what you are up to out in the office! Hogging the band width again I can see.

sheebe on January 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM

sheebe on January 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Ooooh called out by the misses, I’m glad my partner doesn’t know any my political blogs name.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 24, 2009 at 3:36 PM

House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio)

A stranger in his own land, Ohio.

Perhaps he could offer a solution that wouldn’t have him more alienated from Ohio’s own.

sethstorm on January 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM

but, sources familiar with the conversation said, Obama then noted: “I won.”…

Dear filthy bastard:

Yes through trickery, platitudes and a bad opponent you- a corrupt Chicago politician made it to the White House. You “won” the election but that wasn’t a winner take all victory. You campaigned on changing the tone in DC to be more bipartisan. This is what you think bipartisanship means you evil bastard?

God save this nation from filth like you.

highhopes on January 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

A stranger in his own land, Ohio.

Perhaps he could offer a solution that wouldn’t have him more alienated from Ohio’s own.

sethstorm on January 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Well, that’s debatable. Plus, Boehner is doing what’s right for Ohio and for America. Doing the right thing has it’s own value.

Red State State of Mind on January 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM

So Obama Won!

My response:

America Lost

The Rock on January 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Well, that’s debatable. Plus, Boehner is doing what’s right for Ohio and for America. Doing the right thing has it’s own value.

With all the job loss and few Democrat scandals in the state, there might not be enough rural voters to save him. DHL dropping Wilmington wasn’t the only event, but it sure is a representation of what is happening here.

He might want to talk to Mike Turner, who was able to turn around a deeply-blue Dayton until Rhine McLin took the mayor’s spot. He’s opposed the bailout, and supported measures of the Right, yet somehow has a way of getting support from some who would be labeled as “Liberal”.

Boehner doesn’t have to take every suggestion. That doesn’t mean that he won’t have to contend with Ohio no longer being about just the rural voters.

sethstorm on January 24, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Boehner doesn’t have to take every suggestion. That doesn’t mean that he won’t have to contend with Ohio no longer being about just the rural voters.

sethstorm on January 24, 2009 at 5:47 PM

By 2010 it will be far more than just about rural voters. There is no way that the filthy bastard and his administration will be able to deliver on all the promises he made while campaigning. That moronic woman who Sean Hannity keeps playing on his radio program will indeed have to pay her mortgage. Filthy bastard’s administration is just now realizing (why they are unfit for their jobs in the first place) that campaigning is far easier than governing. Once all the hype about electing the “black one” is over the filthy bastard is going have to lead and there isn’t one instance in his past where he has done so.

Put simply for somebody like you- You can’t vote “present” as the President. Obama doesn’t have the skills necessary to pull off this fraud on the American people. He will ultimately go down in flames.

highhopes on January 24, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Obama doesn’t have the skills necessary to pull off this fraud on the American people

He’s from the city who seems to tolerate Daley in some form and having criminals run the town.

If there’s something the opposition can do, it can at least offer something that is its own strength, not merely a negation of someone’s failure.

sethstorm on January 24, 2009 at 6:14 PM

“I won,” he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. “I will trump you on that.”

A long time ago, and apparently on some other planet, I was taught that if you are in a leadership position and you have to pull rank to get things done, you fail as a leader.

DSchoen on January 24, 2009 at 11:56 PM

There’s an adage, been around for a while, in the military:

If you are a leader, everyone around you knows it.

If you you have to tell everyone around you, you are not a leader,

Proceed from there.

coldwarrior on January 25, 2009 at 12:05 AM

The Marxist left’s idea of bi-partisanship. They’re always a winner in their own minds, even when their not. Kind of like Hamas declaring “victory” in the recent fighting.

hopefloats on January 25, 2009 at 1:40 AM

This is brilliant.

If I lose my job, I’m taking out 3 more mortgages on my house and spending all the money frivolously.

Obviously if the adage “You have to spend money to make money” is true; then spending money always creates money and in fact is the best thing possible.

I can’t see a single logical fallacy there, so going into debt as far as you can and piddling away all the money with nothing to show for it is the best financial advice ever.

Here I’ve been an idiot saving and investing instead of spending. Think how rich I could be if I had spent all that money frivolously as soon as I got it.

** If you need a warning here, then you’re too stupid to own property in the first place. Have fun.

gekkobear on January 25, 2009 at 2:28 AM

This is brilliant.

If I lose my job, I’m taking out 3 more mortgages on my house and spending all the money frivolously.

Obviously if the adage “You have to spend money to make money” is true; then spending money always creates money and in fact is the best thing possible.

I can’t see a single logical fallacy there, so going into debt as far as you can and piddling away all the money with nothing to show for it is the best financial advice ever.

Here I’ve been an idiot saving and investing instead of spending. Think how rich I could be if I had spent all that money frivolously as soon as I got it.

** If you need a warning here, then you’re too stupid to own property in the first place. Have fun.

gekkobear on January 25, 2009 at 2:28 AM

Right on . . . and you have very accurately defined Obama’s parasitic constituents.

rplat on January 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM

He’s been in office a few days and already dropped 6 points in the polls, with his economic plan he has no where to go but down. Plus he seems to be pissing people off a few million at a time.

Done That on January 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM

A long time ago, and apparently on some other planet, I was taught that if you are in a leadership position and you have to pull rank to get things done, you fail as a leader.

DSchoen on January 24, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Positional leadership also doesn’t mean that one has the only position that matters. Obama and his crowd of corrupt Chicago politicians and career Democrats are acting like they don’t need to factor in opposing opinion. There’s going to be one steep learning curve, given the filthy bastards inability to understand that winning doesn’t mean arrogance is going to be tolerated.

highhopes on January 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Plus he seems to be pissing people off a few million at a time.

Done That on January 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM

That’s because he’s believing his own press- that his inaguration means we are “one united nation.” The filthy bastard barely got a majority and he’s acting like the entire nation has complete and utter trust in anything the teleprompter tells him to say. The reality is that half the nation doesn’t trust him and he’s got the arrogance to think that his is the only opinion that matters.

We are not one united nation. There is a healthy skepticism out there and the only people that don’t seem to understand it are the cult followers.

highhopes on January 25, 2009 at 6:11 PM

The Marxist left’s idea of bi-partisanship. They’re always a winner in their own minds, even when their not. Kind of like Hamas declaring “victory” in the recent fighting.

hopefloats on January 25, 2009 at 1:40 AM

Sounds like Al Franken would be the perfect Senator in this environment….. I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me! I’m going to go out there and spew arrogant partisan crap like “I won so you can STFU.” It’s going to be a long four years.

highhopes on January 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Someone needs to remind Obama that he won an election to become the constitutional president, not the autocratic king. Congress can still do whatever it wants.

Amphipolis on January 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Can Obama really claim a mandate, when he didn’t actually run on a pledge to do anything? Unless you count bringing the troops home from Iraq, which is a pledge he already broke.

tom on January 23, 2009 at 2:49 PM

He promised to spread the wealth around and he means to keep that promise.

zmdavid on January 23, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Good point, but even there he tried to avoid saying that he would “spread the wealth around.” That’s why it was so devastating when Joe the Plumber asked him that question. He’d inadvertently spoken the truth.

But he did’t say, “Vote for me, and I’ll spread the wealth around.”

He tried to avoid taking any controversial positions, and this is exactly the time when he should be reminded that if you didn’t run on a pledge to do something, you can’t claim you were given a mandate to do it.

tom on January 26, 2009 at 11:19 AM

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