From classic lib to Blue Dog: Paterson picks Gillibrand

posted at 8:25 am on January 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After all the talk of dynasties, David Paterson wound up going for substance over celebrity in his pick to replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate.  Instead of Caroline Kennedy or Andrew Cuomo, the New York governor selected Representative Kirsten Gillibrand for the seat, and her celebrity quotient isn’t the only big difference between the two earlier frontrunners.  Gillibrand will fall firmly in the Blue Dog camp, moving the seat more to the Right:

Gov. David Paterson has picked Democratic U.S. Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand to fill New York’s vacant U.S. Senate seat, an aide to the governor said early Friday, a day after Caroline Kennedy abruptly withdrew from consideration.

Gillibrand, a second-term lawmaker from upstate New York, will be named to fill the seat vacated when Hillary Rodham Clinton resigned to become secretary of state in the Obama administration, the aide said, speaking on condition of anonymity because an announcement hadn’t been made. An announcement was scheduled for later Friday. …

Others in the field, led by more senior politicians, including U.S. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, criticized Gillibrand as recently as Thursday evening, saying her support of more conservative issues such as gun ownership rights was out of step with most New York Democrats.

But Gillibrand (JIL’-uh-brand) is a proven vote-getter in an eastern New York district that sprawls from the mid-Hudson Valley to north of Albany. She defeated a long-term Republican incumbent in 2006 and won re-election last year by a wide margin.

How conservative is this new Blue Dog?  Gillibrand has a membership in the NRA and she voted against the $700 billion bailout bill.  Some conservatives would argue that alone makes her a better choice than some Republicans for the new position.  Losing her voice in the House might sting just a little, but her district will likely replace her with a representative with similar views, and it represents a quantum leap forward for the Senate seat.

Conservatives lucked out with this surprise appointment.  Certainly Gillibrand will support much of the Democratic agenda, but she has the right instincts on fiscal and gun policy, and we assumed that we would get a carbon copy of Schumer all along.

Gillibrand’s selection comes as a surprise, though, for New York.  Both Kennedy and Cuomo represent the New Left in thinking, solidly of the same cast politically and close to New York’s other Senator, Chuck Schumer.  Why would Paterson select a Blue Dog?  Michael Gormley of the AP suggests that Paterson wants to improve his standing with upstate New York, and that he might have what became known as a “Utica problem” during Sweet Caroline’s disastrous bid for the seat.  He needed to be seen as someone who pays attention to voters outside the five boroughs of the Big Apple, and Gillibrand broadens his appeal in time for his 2010 run for governor on his own steam.

I’d expect Paterson to get a serious primary challenge after this appointment.  Democrats will come gunning for him from the Left, starting with Emily’s List.  Cuomo himself might look for some payback by running for his father’s old seat.

Update: Jazz Shaw believes that the state Democratic Party might fracture on the special election for the Senate seat in 2010 as well.  It could be a banner year for Republicans in New York.


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Better than Chafee!

abobo on January 23, 2009 at 8:33 AM

Let’s see, an attractive, obscure, pro-gun woman.

Sounds familiar.

Already Mrs. One Note, Carolyn McCarthy, is whining since Gillibrand supports the Second Amendment.

JammieWearingFool on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Pleasant surprise. Anybody in the know who can estimate the probability of securing Gillibrand’s former seat by another blue dog? Maybe even someone MORE conservative?

pugwriter on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Don’t get too excited. She will sprint to the left. She just voted the way she did because her district is fairly conservative (very conservative for New York).

BuzzCrutcher on January 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM

I am sure the dems will say that she is not qualified to take Hillary’s seat. They are going to say she has no expierence. Oh I can’t wait for that to happen.

Brat4life on January 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM

I dunno … this doesn’t make sense. Paterson must have an ulterior motive for picking Gillibrand. This is New York democrat politics. Nothing is done for the right reasons, it’s done to advance oneself or an agenda.

darwin on January 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM

It’s neat how that worked out.

She’s probably more conservative than some other Northeast rinos past and present (Snow, Chafee, etc.)

Cuomo never had a chance, though, being male and all from what I’ve read. Not that I care.

reaganaut on January 23, 2009 at 8:37 AM

Let’s see, an attractive, obscure, pro-gun woman.

Sounds familiar.

Already Mrs. One Note, Carolyn McCarthy, is whining since Gillibrand supports the Second Amendment.

JammieWearingFool on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Could it be she in the wrong party?

grapeknutz on January 23, 2009 at 8:39 AM

encouraging…

oh, and you know, this seat, you know, should have gone, you know, to the political dynasty family because, well you know, POTUS has a Kennedy complex

gatorboy on January 23, 2009 at 8:39 AM

I guess the two-eyed smart-alecks won out after all.

Neo on January 23, 2009 at 8:39 AM

This is going to make Allahpundit’s pessimeter malfunction, I suspect.

I am very surprised, and it is a shrewd choice by Patterson. I HATE him for his BS tax plan, and if he picked Kennedy or Cuomo, he’d have no chance in 2010. Now, at least he’s seen as having some sort of a backbone….not that that will help him against Giuliani.

jimmy the notable on January 23, 2009 at 8:39 AM

Paterson must have an ulterior motive for picking Gillibrand.

They wanted a woman to replace a woman, just like in Illinois, the wanted an African-American to replace and African-American.

Identity politics for the new age.

reaganaut on January 23, 2009 at 8:40 AM

So how do the dots connect on this one? What is the master plan behind this placement. I am a cynic who can’t figure this one out.

sherry on January 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM

Seems like someone who truely represents the people of New York that don’t live in Manhattan.

cadams on January 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM

How conservative is this new Blue Dog? Gillibrand has a membership in the NRA and she voted against the $700 billion bailout bill. Some conservatives would argue that alone makes her a better choice than some Republicans for the new position.

Some conservatives would argue she would have been a better candidate than McCain for President.

BacaDog on January 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM

Shocka.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM

Some conservatives would argue she would have been a better candidate than McCain for President.

BacaDog on January 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM

You beat me to it. +1

I’m sure I’ll disagree with some of her votes, but at least she’s not another Kennedy or in the DiFi/Boxer mold.

rbj on January 23, 2009 at 8:46 AM

I.Love.This.

JammieWearingFool on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

But does she own a tanning bed?

Buy Danish on January 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM

On a side note, I do enjoy the Time Warp reference.

Rocky!

loudmouth883 on January 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Maybe he’s trying to stick it to the Lorne Michaels/SNL crowd for their tasteless blind governer skit.

Firmworm on January 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM

Yes!

DL13 on January 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Maybe he’s trying to stick it to the Lorne Michaels/SNL crowd for their tasteless blind governer skit.

Firmworm on January 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM

Good observation.

Whatever his reason, bravo.

Disturb the Universe on January 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Better than Chafee!

abobo on January 23, 2009 at 8:33 AM

Obama’s kid’s imaginary dog is better than Chafee.

- The Cat

MirCat on January 23, 2009 at 8:52 AM

sherry on January 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM

Basically, I think he realized that he couldn’t hope for ANY votes anywhere north of Westchester in 2010 if he selected Caroline. And with the Democrats controlling 59 seats, it really didn’t matter if he selected a hard-left liberal. He just was doing what he needed to do to hopefully secure a few more votes. There is no conceivable way selecting a Princess will help you get votes.

jimmy the notable on January 23, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Maybe he took so long to decide because he was digging up dirt on people. He found the most dirt on her which will be used to control her votes in the Senate.

I know I know. Pessimistic but hey, that is the way the democrats operate.

darwin on January 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Maybe he’s trying to stick it to the Lorne Michaels/SNL crowd for their tasteless blind governer skit.

Firmworm on January 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM

I was wondering if she was an upstate, coke-enjoying, economically inexperienced politician….. Is she guilty of crimes of the heart (and drug crimes)? Is she a little “off”? Does she have a gamy arm or giant gums with little teeth? Hmmm…… Or is it possible that she promised Governor Patterson $50 in “circus tickets”.

/sarc

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Hillary 2.0

My collie says:

New and improved.

CyberCipher on January 23, 2009 at 8:58 AM

She’s got some fine lines. Yes yes, that’s sexist I suppose, sue me.

Do the internal numbers from the Princess debacle show a problem for the governor? He might have thought, “Uh oh” and gone with a pick that would mollify some who would otherwise have made his life difficult in the next election.

The strident, crazed liberals can always vote her out, while Paterson can claim he tried to go centrist; that could be the plan all along.

Bishop on January 23, 2009 at 9:01 AM

BuzzCrutcher on January 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM

Exactly.

She’ll vote 99% with Reid.

artist on January 23, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Hillary 2.0

My collie says:

New and improved.

CyberCipher on January 23, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Now with less cankles?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Some conservatives would argue that alone makes her a better choice than some most Republicans for the new position.

angryed on January 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Wow…I was so happy to have Hillary become SOS, JUST so that I don’t have to say that she’s MY Senator (We still have Schumer though).

It sounds like she’s a Democratic that I would even vote for!! :-)

Lucky from Long Island!!! :-)

HarryStar on January 23, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Caroline is whining cause Gillbrand supports the right of law abiding citizens to own guns. Hmmmm well i guess Gillbrand would get more support from her party if she, didn’t pay her taxes, had an illegal nanny, or supported the rights of terrorists to a trial here on American soil.

MDWNJ on January 23, 2009 at 9:09 AM

From Wikipedia:

Gillibrand broke with former Governor Eliot Spitzer on the issue of illegal immigration, opposing his plan to issue New York State drivers licenses to illegal immigrants.

Good God, she is better than McCain!

jimmy the notable on January 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Ha! One of her resume points is that she worked for Andrew Cuomo.

While she is clearly not a Nancy Pelosi, for all her conservative creds, there’s this:

New York has a system that allows fusion voting. Gillibrand has run under the aegis of both the Democratic Party and the Working Families Party in her two elections…

The Working Families Party is the New Party reborn:

According to the party’s website, WFP is a coalition founded jointly by ACORN, the Communications Workers of America, and the United Automobile Workers…

She’s also a strong proponent of Davis-Bacon which has been criticized for being raaaacist. We’ll see if the Justice Brothers seize on this.

Buy Danish on January 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM

She is not all bad since she supports the Iraq War and NRA, and is anti-gay marriage. It works if you want to be voted in upstate.
This should be excellent for republicans. She is not a name, and I don’t think she can be a winner in 2010. I will bet Andrew Cuomo will run against Peter King (R) and Gillibrand (D) and will most likely win. King is a bit erratic, but he does have chutzpah. We’ll see. Maybe Cuomo will challenge Schumer instead. It will be interesting in 2010 that’s for sure. Giuliani will most likely sail through as the next Gov. of NY. Paterson has been awful.

jencab on January 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Gillibrand has a membership in the NRA and she voted against the $700 billion bailout bill.

I like her already; I think Paterson is of the same opinon as me – that 2010 is going to be a bear for liberals.

Vashta.Nerada on January 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Good God, she is better than McCain!
jimmy the notable on January 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Palin/Gillebrand 2012

The Yum Team

Bishop on January 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Could this just have been a “crazy like a fox” pick, hoping to help secure the Senate Majority by seating a DINO?

VoxRobotica on January 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

I’m guessing that McCain won’t cross the aisle to work with her. She is conservative after all.

JeffinOrlando on January 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Awesome pick. I am really starting to like this Governor. Especially great that Cuomo got snubbed.

rockmom on January 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

much better choice… hey she’s a NRA member!

NRA Lifer on January 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Pleasant surprise. Anybody in the know who can estimate the probability of securing Gillibrand’s former seat by another blue dog? Maybe even someone MORE conservative?

pugwriter on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

I grew up in heart of that distrct, the upper hudson valley. I think that a Republican could win the seat is a special if they put up a good, well known candidate. The problem with the Republican party in NY is that they can’t fight their way out of a paper bag, not that the Dems (especially upstate) are unstoppable.

Govgirl on January 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM

“First, a jump to the Left, and then a step to the Right.”

You Do the Hokey Pokey, and you Shake it all About….The Donkey Dance:)

Dr Evil on January 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM

First, a jump to the Left, and then a step to the Right.

And the Liberals get the pelvic thrust!

I live in her district. I did not vote for her, but she is better than some Republicans.

dentalque on January 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM

They wanted a woman to replace a woman, just like in Illinois, the wanted an African-American to replace and African-American.

Identity politics for the new age.

reaganaut on January 23, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Patrick Henry once said, “If this be treason, make the most of it.” I say, “If this be identity politics, make the most of it.” They could have gone much farther left than Gillibrand, and she certainly wasn’t hit by no truck, by the looks of her, so I say win-win.

Spc Steve on January 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Since she’s a first term though, we don’t really know that she won’t take another ginormous step back to the Left to serve the more liberal larger constituency?

Voting no on the bailout is a huge plus but maybe she did that to ensure a re-election in a district outside Wall Street? I’d be betting on the move to the left to ensure her ’10 re-election as a Senator.

mngirl on January 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

time for us new yorkers to take new york back

blatantblue on January 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

loudmouth883 on January 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

Ed Morrissey on January 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

As a Western NYer who regularly sees our right leaning politics canceled out by the semi-autonomous region of Gotham City & Long Island I am pleasantly surprised to see this!

I’m certain she’s not a conservative by any means on a social level, but if she has the NRA’s endorsement it means at the very least she’s not against the 2nd amendment. That’s a big plus over Billary.

In other great news I am happy to say, my county’s property taxes are no longer tops in the nation! Our neighboring county now pays more taxes to help subsidize NYC’s corrupt education and transportation systems.

DrewVT6 on January 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Tasty too.

LimeyGeek on January 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

Ed Morrissey on January 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Only a quadriplegic would fail to catch that.

LimeyGeek on January 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Wonderful pick if it has to be a democrat.

kanda on January 23, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Paterson is gonna be facing Rudy in 2010, so maybe he’s trying to gain support upstate. Outside of the city, NY is fairly conservative, unfortunately Rudy and Pataki did nothing to build the conservative movement behind them, so both the Republican and Conservative parties are in sorry shape. And of course the city’s population overwhelms the rest of the state. But NY is totally winnable by conservatives, what with Nurse Bloomy and his health police, and Paterson and his policy of raising taxes and NOT cutting spending. NYers have been suffering, but no one is offering them an alternative. Until that happens, NY stays blue.

Iblis on January 23, 2009 at 10:26 AM

It’s “Palin Light” or “Palin Lite” if you are a beer drinker!
In my opinion very shrewd;
http://conservativewomenunited.blogspot.com/2009/01/ny-govs-shrewd-move-palin-light.html

Done That on January 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Wait wait wait. She’s the mother of two small children, including one born just eight months ago?

How on earth will she have enough time to be a Senator? She should be home taking care of the youngens!

There’s no way she can juggle family and career. No way I tell you.

/sarc

BardMan on January 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM

While I wanted Andrew Cuomo, I think this is a very VERY smart choice.

I was totally against Caroline and anyone who has read my posts can attest to that. Enough of the Kennedy “royal” family personnea. I’m done with those folks.

But it was smart because for the first time in a LONG time, a Senator actually came from New York STATE, not New York City. I know, so many people just identify New York with New York CITY, but this is a BIG state, with so much going on and so much diversity. To have Upstate New York represented in the Senate is a great thing and this will help Paterson in his re-election bid upstate.

Plus, it is respectful to Hillary. Instead of putting the Camelot Princess, who worked so hard to destroy Hillary’s presidential aspirations, in Hillary’s spot, another woman was picked.

Good job, Paterson!!! ~thumbs up~

stefystef on January 23, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Wait wait wait. She’s the mother of two small children, including one born just eight months ago?

How on earth will she have enough time to be a Senator? She should be home taking care of the youngens!

There’s no way she can juggle family and career. No way I tell you.

/sarc

BardMan on January 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Yes she can… no different than a man can juggle family and career. People need to stop minimizing women and acting like men can do it all. No one questions a man’s devotion to his family, so why question a woman’s?

I’m not worried about her kids, they will be just fine. They will be taken care of better than most American kids.

stefystef on January 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Blue looks good on her.

shick on January 23, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Conservatives have won on the issue of gun control. Liberals are just acknowledging that and moving past it.

Speedwagon82 on January 23, 2009 at 10:56 AM

“…her support of more conservative issues such as gun ownership rights was out of step with most New York City Democrats”

Fixed

eeyore on January 23, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Don’t get too excited. She will sprint to the left. She just voted the way she did because her district is fairly conservative (very conservative for New York).

BuzzCrutcher on January 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM

Bingo! The Senate is a whole different ballgame and running statewide in NY is two whole different ballgames.

The only hope here is that she may have some lingering Blue Dog feelings that she’ll be “allowed” to express on small issues (hey, this is NY Dem, that’s better than nothing). But I seriously doubt she’ll be lining up with Jim Bunning to oppose the creeping Socialism that the Senate Dems will push.

mankai on January 23, 2009 at 10:57 AM

How conservative is this new Blue Dog? Gillibrand has a membership in the NRA and she voted against the $700 billion bailout bill. Some conservatives would argue that alone makes her a better choice than some Republicans for the new position. Losing her voice in the House might sting just a little, but her district will likely replace her with a representative with similar views, and it represents a quantum leap forward for the Senate seat.

Thanks Governor Paterson! And Sweet Sweet Princess Caroline, don’t let the door hit you on your sweet sweet fat ass on the way out.

Mr. Joe on January 23, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Don’t be surprised if a New Left liberal gets enormous financial and political support to win the now-open Congressional seat – someone more acceptable to Nancy. It Gillibrand doesn’t vote with the rest of the party (“sprint to the left”), she can be pushed out during the next Senate campaign by massive financial and political support for a New Left candidate. Until then, Patterson looks likely to bolster his support for eventual election as Gov. It was a shrewd pick that sets a multi-year process in motion to potentially move NY further left politically.

Perfesser on January 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Yes she can… no different than a man can juggle family and career. People need to stop minimizing women and acting like men can do it all. No one questions a man’s devotion to his family, so why question a woman’s?

I’m not worried about her kids, they will be just fine. They will be taken care of better than most American kids.

stefystef on January 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Clearly my sarcasm was completely lost on you. I was pulling out the ol’ anti-Palin argument for all our liberal friends. I guess I need to work on my delivery.

BardMan on January 23, 2009 at 11:07 AM

The new and improved ticket for 2012:
Best of BOTH WORLDS:
PALIN/GILLIBRAND ’12

CynicalOptimist on January 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Oh yeah…. did I mention… THEY’RE BOTH HOT!

CynicalOptimist on January 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Yeah….she’s got a kinda Scully hotness to her.

LimeyGeek on January 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Say what you will about her, at least she doesn’t look like Teddy Kennedy in drag.

29Victor on January 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM

And that is exactly their strategy. I saw this coming during the last upset. Fill the Congress with Blue dogs – just conservative enough on certain issues for their districts to keep enough republicans happy and them in office. That’s a hard strategy to fight. Now they can keep Obama in office without fear of reprisal even if he screws up.

roxer on January 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

wow, she might be one Democrat who actually read the Constitution and understood it.

kirkill on January 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM

I am sure the dems will say that she is not qualified to take Hillary’s seat. They are going to say she has no expierence. Oh I can’t wait for that to happen.

On Drudge:
LIBERAL DEMS HOWL AT NY SENATE PICK; NO EXPERIENCE, NRA-BACKED…

crazy_legs on January 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Lovely. Probably the best one could hope for in this situation.

juanito on January 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM

A coldly political choice as opposed to an American Idol choice.

There’s hope!

eeyore on January 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

she voted against the $700 billion bailout bill.

That right there puts her well ahead of most GOP Whig Senators, who should retire. Big thumbs up!

james23 on January 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

And that is exactly their strategy. I saw this coming during the last upset. Fill the Congress with Blue dogs – just conservative enough on certain issues for their districts to keep enough republicans happy and them in office. That’s a hard strategy to fight. Now they can keep Obama in office without fear of reprisal even if he screws up.

roxer on January 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

But that can backfire because the BlueDog Dems are the Reagan Dems. Now, if the Republican Party had REAL leadership (which you don’t because Bush left you high and dry), that more centrist politics can work for a conservative advantage… if played right.

stefystef on January 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM

This selection by Gov Patterson is a triple play. It’s like Mr. Obama picking Gates as SecDef totally unexpected given the background of the selectors. It might make the dem primary in 2010 for the seat a lib conservative free for all. More popcorn munching, and if the libs split the primary vote, Gillebrand may wind up the winner. She might even be the more conservative than the GOP nominee for Senate. That would be a bonus. Hope she gives Harry Reid agita like she gave to Peelousi.

eaglewingz08 on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

And that is exactly their strategy. I saw this coming during the last upset. Fill the Congress with Blue dogs – just conservative enough on certain issues for their districts to keep enough republicans happy and them in office. That’s a hard strategy to fight. Now they can keep Obama in office without fear of reprisal even if he screws up.

roxer on January 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Hahahahahahahahahaha, OOOPS! Sorry *LOL*

Yeah, I didn’t get the sarcasm at first reading. Forgive me, I’m kinda slow. You gotta put some indication for us nervous feminists *LOL*

stefystef on January 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I’d be interested to know if Patterson had any conversations with Obama or his staffers before making this selection. Barack supposedly was one of the ones backing Caroline because of the support the Kennedys gave him during the election, but right now it looks as if the White House may have as many problems in the near future dealing with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi trying to drag the agenda in Congress sharply to the left as they will with the go-along, get-along GOP leadership in Congress.

One of the reasons Obama picked Rahm Emnauel as White House COS was his relationship with the Blue Dog Democrats in the House, who he helped recruit to run in districts like the one Gillibrand won in 2006, because a liberal Democrat won’t fly there. Having Gillibrand take a step up would mean one more person in the Senate who owes more to the Chief of Staff than they do to Reid (now) or Pelosi (before), though obviously, if Kirsten moves left now she’ll face less of a chance of a primary challenge from offended NYC Democrats, who believe both Senate seats and the governorship are their divine right to hold.

jon1979 on January 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Palin/Gillebrand 2012

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Bishop on January 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

How about Team MILF?

UltimateBob on January 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM

While she is clearly not a Nancy Pelosi, for all her conservative creds, there’s this:

New York has a system that allows fusion voting. Gillibrand has run under the aegis of both the Democratic Party and the Working Families Party in her two elections…

The Working Families Party is the New Party reborn:

According to the party’s website, WFP is a coalition founded jointly by ACORN, the Communications Workers of America, and the United Automobile Workers…

Understand that in the fusion voting system, the secondary parties aren’t naming candidates they like, they are naming candidates they prefer. Sometime of them will name candidates that will get just a few votes. Many, however, will name one of the two major candidates if they believe that getting a few votes for that candidate will keep someone far worse out of office. It’s the same choice voters face: hold your nose and vote for McCain, or vote for a third-party candidate who is simply not going to win.

The fusion scheme avoids the problems of parliamentary systems while allowing more voices to appear on the ballot. It also favors candidates like Lieberman, who was booted off his own party’s ballot; a “minor” party can put them on the ballot easily.

I have to wonder whether Patterson might not realize, better than most New Yorkers, that New York has a terrorist’s bull’s-eye painted on it. A Blue Dog in the Senate might be better for the state than a moonbat or a moonbat-feeder. And Gillibrand is an experienced legislator.

njcommuter on January 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM

She’s hot.

ronsfi on January 23, 2009 at 12:14 PM

I’m thrilled with this pick. A NRA-member Blue Dog fiscal conservative is the best-case scenario coming out of NY. Once she’s sworn in, Cornyn might want to get to wining & dining, ASAP. By the time the Lib machine is done with her, she’ll be ripe ripe for some Jeffords Jumpin’, IYKWIMAITYD.

Kid from Brooklyn on January 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM

If she votes in a relatively conservative fashion, she may have been appointed to make it easier for the NY state house to pass things. Of course, this depends on who appoints a new representative in that state under these conditions. Someone is going to have to replace her when she goes to the U.S. Senate. Am I wrong with my thinking or is it too conspiratorial?

threeCents on January 23, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Patterson might be tired of being sat at the edge of the table when Bloomie and the Clintons and the Cuomos and the Schmumers feast on their braised puppy dinners.

Politics in NY is turning into a Mexican gunfight. You don’t know who’s gonna shoot who. Which is why I think this pick is indicative of a coming collapse of the NY left. The infighting is severe.

LibertyBoyNYC on January 23, 2009 at 12:47 PM

No one is appointed to the House of Reps. There has to be a special election. Usually in 2 or 3 months I think.

Iblis on January 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Say what you will about her, at least she doesn’t look like Teddy Kennedy in drag.

29Victor on January 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Which just goes to prove that “CONSERVATIVE THINKING WOMEN” score higher on the HOTNESS SCALE per capita than do their LIBERAL COUNTERPARTS… I mean… Hillary? Pelosi? Boxer?

CynicalOptimist on January 23, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I find the NYP story statement that Schumer strongly supported her difficult to buy. Gun control, in fact the total disarmament of the American people by fiat, has been Charles Schumer’s trademark issue since he has been a national legislator. The idea that he would in any way support an appointee who would even possibly oppose him on his favorite subject for legislation flies in the face of logic, not to mention his previous track record.

It is, however, possible that faced with Governor Patterson’s fait accompli, Schumer’s office may have come up with a statement to cover Schumer’s backside after he found himself twisting in the wind. This is, in fact, the most likely explanation.

cheers

eon

eon on January 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM

How about Team MILF?

UltimateBob on January 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM

How about NO, Scotty, DON’T.

LimeyGeek on January 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I’m originally from her district and think she’s done a better job than expected (certainly better than that idiot Sweeney) and has shown a good ear for constituents, but you should know this about how she felt about the “Surge” in Iraq before she was elected (from the Glens Falls Post-Star; 1/10/07): President Bush’s explanation to the nation of why he is sending more troops to Iraq was short on details and left her questioning the logic behind the troop surge, said U.S. Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-Greenport.

“This doesn’t seem like this is going to be an effective strategy,” she said in a telephone interview after the president’s televised speech Wednesday night.

Gillibrand said Bush failed to convince her that sending additional troops into Iraq would guarantee success.

Gillibrand said she hopes to learn specific information about how Bush intends to implement the strategy when Defense Secretary Robert Gates addresses the House Armed Services Committee today.

Gillibrand, who serves on the committee, said she is prepared to ask pointed questions about how the chances of success will be any different from when the U.S. had higher troop levels in Iraq at an earlier point.

“We’ve had 20,000 more troops in Iraq before,” she said.

Gillibrand, who took office last week, said she does not agree with Bush that democracy in Iraq is destined to collapse if additional troops are not sent in to secure the area around Baghdad.

“I think that’s a false paradigm,” she said.

Gillibrand said she was encouraged to hear Bush call for oil revenues to be shared by various Iraqi factions, a position she took in her congressional campaign.

“I was very interested to hear it,” she said.

But she would have liked Bush to support other diplomatic solutions, such as pledging the United States will place no claim on Iraqi oil and will not have permanent military bases there, she said.

Gillibrand said she agrees with the president’s call for increasing the overall size of the military, particularly the number of special forces.

Veterans benefits must be improved to attract more young people into the military, she said.

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., said in a prepared statement that Bush’s Iraq policy “has been marred by incompetence and arrogance.”

Clinton said she continues to support phased redeployment of U.S. troops as a way of pressuring the Iraqi government to resolve its political crisis.

“Based on the president’s speech tonight, I cannot support his proposed escalation of the war in Iraq,” she said.

MikeHu on January 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM

…takes the term “unexpected” to a whole new level. I’m stunned.

Great news, though. Shifting the democratic party in New York to the left is a good step.

MadisonConservative on January 23, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Already Mrs. One Note, Carolyn McCarthy, is whining since Gillibrand supports the Second Amendment.

JammieWearingFool on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Roger that JWF and that’s the second thing I’m going to say “Suckers” to my conservative Dem friends if Obama has her reintroduce her failed gun legislation from last year this session. Carolyn McCarthy has three very innocent sounding HRs that would effectively ban all large capacity magazine weapons.

hawkdriver on January 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM

I find the NYP story statement that Schumer strongly supported her difficult to buy. Gun control, in fact the total disarmament of the American people by fiat, has been Charles Schumer’s trademark issue since he has been a national legislator.

Schumer supported her back in 2006 working with Rahm Emanuel to elect House and Senate Democrats in traditional Red States or Red State areas of Blue States. What Schumer got out of it was the Democrats regaining power in Congress and Chuckie getting to be a committee chairman instead of a back-bencher. But it will be interesting to see how Gillibrand votes now, since Schumer is more sympatico with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and their desire to have Congress set the agenda for Obama to sign, while Kirsten’s rabbi in getting elected to the House was Emanuel, whose role now is to make sure the White House calls the shots on U.S. policy, not Reid and Pelosi.

jon1979 on January 23, 2009 at 3:24 PM

She’s my congresswoman (yippee for me!!), she ran against as good a republican as you can get up here (Sandy Treadwell) and won. She had to run to the right in this area, I’m sure she will make a sharp left turn now that she’s on the state wide/national scene.

Ann NY on January 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I am sorry but i dont think she will last long

the myth of a conservative liberal is about as insane
as osama going to celebrate mass..

Sorry a leopard cannot change
it is what it is..

Same thing with liberals..

I do not believe in the lie of centerists or moderates..
For in the end they always cave in either way..

jcila on January 23, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Good news for NYS Republicans. Her moderate stance will almost guarantee a primary challenge, as will be the case for Patterson’s reelection bid. Who knows what happens to her old House seat? At the very least, you’ll probably get someone from her mold. Maybe (but just maybe) the Republicans have a chance again there.

That is, if the Republicans can actually field good candidates. (Is Giuliani taking notes?)

Pope Linus on January 23, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Reliably Pro-Choice. Out of 7 bills, she voted against the National Right to Life position all 7 times, including a vote in favor of funding abortions with federal funds (technically, it was a vote against a bill to deny fed funds, if that makes a difference to anyone). Granted, the other 6 bills were relatively inconsequential and most of them dealt with stem cell research, not abortion per-se. But she’s no Sarah Palin.

Still, these days you have to play the hand you’re dealt and we could have done a lot worse. My advice to her (and to Gov. P) is to milk that pro-choice angle for all it’s worth. Most libs care more about abortion than guns anyway.

JackOfClubs on January 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM

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