The real qualifications for a Senator from New York

posted at 1:43 pm on January 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The New York Times reports on the biggest issue in Governor David Paterson’s mind as he searches for a replacement for Hillary Clinton in the US Senate.  Is it electoral experience, fiscal management, or foreign-policy work that Paterson sees as essential to Hillary’s successor?  In fact, as it turns out, Caroline Kennedy was supremely qualified to meet Paterson’s exacting standards.  Emphasis mine, at least in the quote:

Ms. Kennedy’s departure would reset the political calculus among the remaining contenders, about half a dozen of whom were likely to be serious prospects if Ms. Kennedy were out of the picture. Publicly and privately, Mr. Paterson has talked about the importance of selecting a woman to replace Mrs. Clinton, which could boost such candidates as Ms. Gillibrand, Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, and Randi Weingarten, the president of the United Federation of Teachers.

I get it.  It’s sort of the Robert Reich approach; we can’t allow a man (of any color, this time) to replace Hillary.  Instead of looking for intellectual or experiential qualifications as a primary concern, Paterson wants simply to bar another Y-chromosomed Senator.  Call it the New York Gender Stimulus plan.

No wonder Sweet Caroline remained on the top of the list for so long.  It certainly couldn’t have been her skill at public speaking, her openness to the press, or her ability to relate to regular New Yorkers outside of Manhattan.  She was a she, and a she with a boatload of money.  Bonus!

Even liberal Robert Stein at TMV asks the obvious question:

With the critical questions facing the Senate, when and how did substantive qualifications fall behind demographics in making choices for such high office?

Andrew Cuomo’s asking the same question right now.  Didn’t the era of Hope and Change put all of those old affirmative-action impulses to rest?  Apparently not.


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Who thinks she’ll be the next Senator from Massachusetts?

hawksruleva on January 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Not the color of their skin but the contents of their underpants?

Angry Dumbo on January 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Well if not a “woman”, then they have to look for another qualification.
Shoe size, I don’t think a red head has ever been a New York Senator…how about someone under 5′ or over 6’9″…I know, a wheel chair bound person, yeah that’s the new criteria, someone who is in a wheel chair…no wait, a mix; black/hispanic, wheel chair bound gay transvestite…
That will be the standard, they can learn the job later…

right2bright on January 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Obama’s seat was reserved for a black person, and they wanted Hillary’s seat to be reserved for a woman. Teddy’s trying to make sure his seat is reserved for a Kennedy (his wife). The Senate would not suffer from a little more diversity than it has, but this reserving of seats is a blatant display of affirmative action and reverse discrimination. If the Founders had wanted to establish a House of Lords, they would have done so, with seats reserved for and/or inherited by particular people of particular types.

aero on January 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

The only requirement? A womb, of course. That other New York senator, whose name I choose to forget, might need to get him one.

savvydude on January 22, 2009 at 1:53 PM

How many times have Republicans suggested Palin was ideal because she was a woman, or put forth the idea of Michael Steele, and less so Ken Blackwell, because of their race?

Identity politicking is contagious and a lot of people are infected. It will be fun to watch this whole thread contort itself into every position except the honest one.

***
Caroline Kennedy is no Sarah Palin, but they both get extra points for having vaginas.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I have a vagina. Please give me my promotion.

Badger40 on January 22, 2009 at 1:56 PM

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Extra points in addition to qualifications aren’t necessarily bad, it’s when gender or race is the only qualification that it’s bad.

theotherKate on January 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Didn’t the era of Hope and Change put all of those old affirmative-action impulses to rest? Apparently not.

You did hear the Benediction for Dear Leader’s coronation Inaugural, didn’t you Ed?

A woman goes here, black man there, red guy over there etc. It isn’t about the content of your character, it’s whether or not you have the right skin color/gender.

rbj on January 22, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Angry Dumbo on January 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Caroline’s not that old. ;)

OneGyT on January 22, 2009 at 1:59 PM

…how about someone under 5′ or over 6′9″…

Sorry, Barbara Mikulski already fills the munchkin quota.

Trafalgar on January 22, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Let’s see…a vagina and $50 million…hey, how about Elton John?

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Bernie Madoff’s wife?

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM

The Race Card

Which Republicans suggested race or gender as ideal qualifications? I think you’re making stuff up again and hoping you don’t get caught doing so.

SKYFOX on January 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Not the color of their skin but the contents of their underpants?

Angry Dumbo on January 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Awesome.

loudmouth883 on January 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Rachel Ray (wretch)?

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Does she get 2 votes? 1 for her and 1 for her vagina?

lorien1973 on January 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Hmmm…this is really hard. Uh…Robert Redford? Ooh, he’s not a New Yorker is he. Wait – they don’t really care, do they?

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Trafalgar on January 22, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Shhheeee represents the lollipop guild…

I haven’t seen you post for a while and was a little concerned. I hope all is well with you.

Laura in Maryland on January 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Let’s see…a vagina and $50 million…

Oprah…she’s got the $$$ and Gail says she has a vagina

Trafalgar on January 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Can one imagine the shit storm if it were known that a man had to replace a man?

Or god forbid a white man replace a white man?

jukin on January 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Why would anyone question just because someone has never held public office, they wouldn’t be qualified to be a U S Senator from New York? Competence has never been a strong point for politicians. Sadly, the fact she was ever considered shows how shallow the democratic party has become. Caroline could easily have beeb the pooest quailified candidate in new York history and the governor was the last to know.

volsense on January 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Laura in Maryland on January 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Thanks Laura. Everything is good. Surgery is two weeks from tomorrow and I know everything will turn out great.

Trafalgar on January 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Looking for all the qualifications the Hillary lacked, with woman parts.

I gave up my New York birthright when they raised her up as their senator, and now they are just bottom feeding for more liberal hacks. Disgusting.

Hening on January 22, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Just thought id post this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258284337504295.html

This is concerning the one and only Barney Frank and possible scandal. You wont hear about it on CNN and such of course.
I sent a link to tips@hotair.com, but theyve never posted anything ive sent them.

bucsox79 on January 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Let’s see…a vagina and $50 million…

Oprah…she’s got the $$$ and Gail says she has a vagina

Trafalgar on January 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

I thought she got shot in the minge.

Hening on January 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM

I have a vagina. Please give me my promotion.

Badger40 on January 22, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Quote of the day. My wife wants the t-shirt.

Limerick on January 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM

I love how the left always seems to be more concerned with what’s between their legs than what’s between their ears when it comes to choosing candidates.

Red Cloud on January 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM

On Hannity’s show last night Fran Drescher mentioned that she would like the job and even if she didn’t get it this time around she is running in 2010.

She is just as liberal and she has a harsh voice just like Hillary.

MobileVideoEngineer on January 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM

How about Susan Molinari? Oh that’s right… She’s the wrong kind of woman…. She has an ‘R’ after her name.

pablo5108 on January 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Limerick on January 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM

I could use another form of income.

Badger40 on January 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Caroline Kennedy is no Sarah Palin, but they both get extra points for having vaginas.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM

As if you’d object, heh.

Entelechy on January 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Kennedy Complex
Lincoln Complex
Messiah Complex

gatorboy on January 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

bucsox79 on January 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Is this the scandal were Frank helped blow up the economy. Or is it a different one? The previous one didn’t matter.

lorien1973 on January 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

There is absolutely no reason to think that Bill Clinton will not be a late-in-the-running, jam-it-down-your-throat, candidate.

There is also reason to believe that, if he is suggested, this was the endgame all along. Caroline as a decoy to preserve Bill’s spot until he could be chosen without too much time for opposition to mount a campaign against him.

bryanmyrick on January 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

How about Susan Molinari? Oh that’s right… She’s the wrong kind of woman…. She has an ‘R’ after her name.

pablo5108 on January 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Martha Stewart…liberal…New Yorker, with vagina, rich…well known…not black…got a problem…

p.s. I can’t stand the witch – just saying…

Entelechy on January 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Teddy told her she can replace him soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Rick007 on January 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM

It’s BubbaTime.

LibertyBoyNYC on January 22, 2009 at 2:40 PM

I thought the first qualification was not actually being from New York.

forest on January 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Hmm…”must have vagina.” Would it be ok if I kept it in a jar on my desk?

cthulhu on January 22, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Does she get 2 votes? 1 for her and 1 for her vagina?

lorien1973 on January 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

lorien, vagina’s, and what’s in them, are not people.

rbj on January 22, 2009 at 2:49 PM

The foundational premise that Hillary Clinton is a woman has yet to be proved to my satisfaction.

Cicero43 on January 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Cicero43 on January 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM

I bet lorien would still hit it.

theotherKate on January 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM

We have schmucky Schumer, he qualified as a girly man. Why should we have two women in Senate office for this state?

eaglewingz08 on January 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM

With the critical questions facing the Senate, when and how did substantive qualifications fall behind demographics in making choices for such high office?

Obviously from the example of our last presidental election!

fiscallyconservative on January 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I’d vote for Marisa Tomei, as long as she still looks and sounds like she did in “My Cousin Vinny.”

DamnYankee on January 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM

I still say they need to dig up General Dinkins.

Percy_Peabody on January 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Didn’t the Mass. legislature remove the power of appointment from the Governor back in 2004? This was a preemptive strike to prevent Mitt Romney from filling Kerry’s seat with a Republican when it was presumed he would beat Bush in 2004.

Now she can’t even recieve her just familial inheritance in Massachusetts either, she’d have to actually campaign for the office like the common folk.

Newman65 on January 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Bill Clinton as the last minute jam it down your throat candidate? Do we have Monicas imput on this? After all she was on his staff. Heh

merryprankster23 on January 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Paterson is rapidly becoming more shallow than anyone imagined. Hope this is not lost on the NY voters—wonder though? As for Caroline, should she run in the next election I would have some respect for her and wish her well.

jeanie on January 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

We have schmucky Schumer, he qualified as a girly man. Why should we have two women in Senate office for this state?

eaglewingz08 on January 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I call BS! Chuck the schmuck probably has a vagina, but he certainly doesn’t have the $50 mil.

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Hey – what about Mikey Bloomberg?!

Jaibones on January 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Dar al Senate. Once a seat is conquered by a woman or a black, it must always be populated by such.

Remember the irony of a “civil-rights” huckster crying that the Illinois seat MUST go to a black, because there were no blacks at all in the senate (“sob!”)? Nevermind the fact that the seat formerly held by a black man was only vacant due to it’s occupant having achieved the highest office in the land. So the great criminal tragedy of a blackless senate was the fault of, who? The clowns that voted Obama into the White House? Farce has no meaning to these freaks.

Maquis on January 22, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Which Republicans suggested race or gender as ideal qualifications? I think you’re making stuff up again and hoping you don’t get caught doing so.

SKYFOX on January 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Good day fine sir or madam.

Maybe you have not been reading comments here at HotAir very long. Maybe you just have a poor capacity for recall. But I cannot believe that you have never heard that Palin’s gender was a net plus for Republicans.

Every time Michael Steele is mentioned as a candidate, his race is cited. When Hillary was the presumptive Dem nominee, Palin’s name began to bandied about as an anti-dote to Dem IDeification. Her will to raise Trig and obvious commitment as a strong mom were oft-cited points of praise on this blog and on the campaign trail. What man has been praised so greatly for his being a dad?

Look, I get it. You don’t like me calling out Republicans. But, what exactly are you refuting about my comment? Do you think that only Dems are capable/guilty of ID politics? So be it. I can not out-argue someone so convinced of their own verity. You win.

As far as making stuff up “again,” please cite where I have done this in the past. I love a good laugh at my own expense.

I await your cordial and prompt reply.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 5:01 PM

I’d vote for Marisa Tomei, as long as she still looks and sounds like she did in “My Cousin Vinny.”

DamnYankee on January 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Don’t see The Wrestler.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 5:02 PM

As if you’d object, heh.

Entelechy on January 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

I have never objected to any woman on the grounds of having a vagina.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Though some vaginas are quite objectionable.

The Race Card on January 22, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Even liberal Robert Stein at TMV asks the obvious question:

“With the critical questions facing the Senate, when and how did substantive qualifications fall behind demographics in making choices for such high office?”

Good Lord. What stunning irony.

ddrintn on January 22, 2009 at 10:36 PM