So, let’s stop arguing about a futile policy and instead work on teaching our kids about the destructive results of porn in their lives and with their relationships. In other words, relegate this one to all the other bad behavior like alcoholism, drug addiction, etc.

Good. Can’t legislate morality. Just a stupid idea.

therightwinger on January 21, 2009 at 9:54 PM

I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not. The only thing government legislates is morality–every law passed is based on what someone believes is right or wrong.

It’s not the government’s job to shield children from porn on the internet. Nor is it the government’s job to instill your morals into my family. I don’t see how these two statements are the providence of DailyKos, as opposed to being something people agree with on Hot Air. We’re not all social cons here.

Anna on January 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Hear, hear, Anna!

Way to go!

It’s not that far at all a slippery slope from giving the power to regulate porn, to giving them the power to censor “hate-speech”, to magically making, say, all things conservative “hate-speech”, and so on.

Web filters are out there for a reason. Use them.

You have parental authority and responsibility for a reason. Exercise it.

I’ve no problem with this ruling.

(Exception: Laws governing what can be accessed in public, say, libraries, for example. Whole different story. Although again, the “line drawing”, and where more “free speech curtailing”-minded individuals might draw that line, is still a concern of mine.)

Expected better Ed

If you want to see the full panoply of internet money making techniques, just Google the name of a porn star or a sexual act or phrase and use your ordinary internet skills.

It’s where the money is, as Willy Sutton said about banks. Isn’t it sort of interesting that on the internet the money is in filming an act that started the life of every creature on earth? There are only so many ways you can do it, and I’ll bet most anyone over the age of 18 can tell you what they are. Nevertheless, the internet has turned the porn industry into the sex industry, which, I’ll wager, is a much larger industry. I suspect the sex industry rivals the conventional movie business in gross dollars earned, and will soon surpass it.

After all, advertisers have known since advertising began that sex sells.

Anna on January 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I hate it when that happens.

I agree to disagree with NoDonkey’s portrayal of porn.

Just like if you let them tax one thing they have the right to tax all things

etc etc

- The Cat

If you think looking at naked, airbrushed 17 year olds will improve your relationship with your wife as she ages (or with your aging girlfriends), have at it.

Displaying pictures of naked 17 year olds is a crime. Make sure thay are 18.

If my wife and I have watched a porn together, does that mean its bad for my relationship? Are fantasies bad by the same reasoning? Should I not ever fantasize about another woman (or even my wife when she was younger, thinner, longer haired, whatever) than my wife in the moment?

Tubgirl is even worse. As a warning to everyone here, you do not want to Google it. I promise. It’ll haunt you, forever.

Esthier on January 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Indeed. You know what they say.

Now, I do have some old war porn, I have a few family members (brothers & uncles) that are vets and I work in the industry, so I get sent stuff like that all the time. Mostly, its low res infrared stuff showing terrorists/enemies getting wiped out. Nothing graphic at all (no blood, guts, and only the occasional body part), more of a, “Wohoo! Yay for the good guys in totally wiping them out, our shit is the baddest in the world!” type of stuff.

It’s a nearly impossible task. Kids are so much more computer savvy than most parentsParents of the 60′s and 70′s generations are too damn lazy, self-absorbed and mentally ossified to be bothered to learn the skills needed to properly parent and protect their children.
Most parents would have to ask the kids rather not be bothered with the extra 3% of their time and energy it would take to learn to install the monitoring programs.
Put the computer out in a main room and password it so it can’t be used if you don’t authorize it. Not the only way to do it, but certainly an effective one.

redshirt on January 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Fixed that for you.

;)

I mean how can we live up to our American ideals if an 8 year old kid can’t access hard core pornography!?!?! Why the Founding Fathers would have lost their wigs if they had known about this …

Also, COPA didn’t apply to non-commercial porn, which meant than anyone posting it for free (for instance, blogs) would not have to impose such protections. That means that parents would still have to exercise some supervision over the surfing habits of their children, regardless of COPA. That’s where the responsibility properly rests.

DING DING! We have a winner!

As Conservatives have been saying for years, It’s NOT the job of Government to be the parent! Parents and politicians need to stop expecting the Government to be responsible for them.

Although, other than Playboy… Who pays for Porn on the internet anyway?

*waits for the ad homeinems from The Race Card*

If you think looking at naked, airbrushed 17 year olds will improve your relationship with your wife as she ages (or with your aging girlfriends), have at it.

NoDonkey on January 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM

By the way, just for the sake of argument, what if I specifically seek out porn where the subject is a twin of my fiancee, around her age, give or take a few years? What if I use those to get new ideas for me and the little lady in the bedroom? Is that evil, and loserish, and helping the terrorists win?

Oh, and something I should have said already: If you are paying for porn, you’re a noob. Lrn2Torrent

Oh please, I didn’t abuse anything (except the obvious).

NoDonkey on January 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM

You say your relationships improved once you stopped looking at it. That means while you were looking at it, your relationships suffered. Therefore, you were abusing it.

If you think looking at naked, airbrushed 17 year olds will improve your relationship with your wife as she ages (or with your aging girlfriends), have at it.

Hey, for all you know he’s into elderly porno.

Because you abused something does not make it for losers, or evil, or anything of the sort. Let’s just put that out there. Your one case does not create a rule.

Oh please, I didn’t abuse anything (except the obvious).

Where did I say I wanted to create a “rule”?

It’s a vile industry. You want to fund it, go right ahead, I’m not stopping you. But I’m not going to say that it’s not a sick industry run by sick people.

If you think looking at naked, airbrushed 17 year olds will improve your relationship with your wife as she ages (or with your aging girlfriends), have at it.

Just saying it’s not good for you.

When did it become wrong to say that something is wrong? Are we supposed to say anything that anyone wants to do at any time is just fine and dandy?