Too good to check: Jihadis dying of the Black Plague

posted at 10:48 am on January 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Since this comes from The Sun, whose journalistic credentials run more towards the busty babes of Page 3 than serious counter-terrorist information, take this with a huge, Lot’s Wife-sized grain of salt.  However, in terms of karma, nothing seems more fitting for a group of terrorists for whom “medieval” would be an improvement than to start dying from the Black Death.  According to their sources, al-Qaeda units in North Africa have begun dying from bubonic plague, and they may have spread their 14th-century disease to Pakistani camps:

At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages.

The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa. It came to light when security forces found a body by a roadside.

The victim was a terrorist in AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East.

It trains Muslim fighters to kill British and US troops.

Now al-Qaeda chiefs fear the plague has been passed to other terror cells — or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

The cells the Sun references hide out 100 miles outside of Algiers.  AQLIM was known previously as GSPC, the largest Islamist terrorist group outside of AQ until they merged with it and recognized Osama bin Laden’s leadership.  The two networks exchange couriers and cross-train, which would make an outbreak of the plague a very big problem for both groups.  Because plague is asymptomatic for a few days, up to a week, transmission between people (especially of the airborne variety) gets facilitated, and it can spread like … well, like the plague.

Is this for real?  Perhaps, although it could also be a form of psy-op.  Plague can be treated if addressed quickly with the right medicines, but AQ doesn’t have the capability in either Algeria or Pakistan.  Terrorists would have to surrender to get treatment, and that might be the point of the story — to frighten terrorists into surrendering and then getting intel on their leadership.

It’s easy to wish the plague on AQ, but it might cause more problems in the long run, especially in Pakistan.  The Taliban integrates tightly into rural communities in the isolated areas of Waziristan and the NWFP.  If the plague did follow the Taliban back to these areas, it could touch off an epidemic that could cross the border into Afghanistan and ravage both nations, as well as the NATO forces fighting terrorism on the Afghanistan frontier.

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Racist.

carbon_footprint on January 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Bring out your dead…

BadgerHawk on January 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Were they just victims, or were they trying to weaponize it? Enquiring minds want to know.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM

The good news is that civilized countries can fight the plague with antibiotics, stone age cultures, not so much.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Because plague is asymptomatic for a few days, up to a week, transmission between people (especially of the airborne variety) gets facilitated, and it can spread like … well, like the plague.

Actually pneumonic plague can manifest and kill in a day, but it is usually not spread airborne until it has infected a few hosts in the more traditional manner.

This is payback for Kaffa!!!

darclon on January 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM

A pox on them.

jgapinoy on January 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM

their 14th-century disease

The disease is contemporary with their mindset.

jgapinoy on January 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Wepons test failure — work related accidents happen a lot with Jihadis.

tarpon on January 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Allah’s revenge…They weren’t “holy” enough…

JetBoy on January 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I’m trying to hold back a giant grin, but the schadenfreude is too much for me.

MadisonConservative on January 19, 2009 at 10:59 AM

While the west travels to the stars, the middle east is trapped in the 14th century.

kurtzz3 on January 19, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Methinks their bodily humours are not in balance. In keeping with the 14th century theme, they are in need of a bleeding. Heavily. And often.

rbj on January 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM

shouldn’t this be a heart-ache?

rob verdi on January 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM

“Don’t count ‘em; they’re too many.
Who’ll buy my nice fresh corpses, two a penny?”

– Siegfried Sassoon

SlimyBill on January 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I hope its true!

becki51758 on January 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM

More data needed,way more.
No doubt we will find out soon enough,live in the stone age die as in that age.
Islam may doom itself, one can hope.
Meanwhile where is the border control so that the next 7 11 operator does not infect a whole aircraft and airport?

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I blame this on the lack of Universal Health Care.

artist on January 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM

The good news:
If they die from the plague, they still get their 72 virgins.

The bad news:
The virgins are cover with festering boils.

TheSitRep on January 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM

The bad news:
The virgins are cover with festering boils.

TheSitRep on January 19, 2009 at 11:02 AMIronic – so is Algeria.

SlimyBill on January 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Were they just victims, or were they trying to weaponize it? Enquiring minds want to know.

Maybe they were trying to cultivate it, and tried it out on a member. It may well be that they plan to merely introduce infected Al Queda into societies and try to spread it the old fashion way. Although, how they would contain it amongst themselves is a good question to ask.

We can only hope for the best, and wish them a miserable and plague-ridden death for all of their members. In the end, it might well be that fewer die even if the plague spreads across a few borders.

Geministorm on January 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Lot’s Wife-sized grain of salt.

Heh.

Weight of Glory on January 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM

What a pleasant read to start the week with. Even if it proves false, it is still a pleasant thought. Makes “a pox upon your house” real.

GeneSmith on January 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM

It’s Bush’s fault

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM

The Black Plague killing the Muslim Plague…

albill on January 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Pardon me if I just can’t work up a good head of compassion about this.

katiejane on January 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Genesis 12:1-3

If the plague report is true, draw your own conclusions.

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Hey, anyone know where to send the “Don’t Get Well” cards?

HomeoftheBrave on January 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM

What are doctors to do?

Please heal me infidel so I may kill you later when I’m feeling better.

It’s Obama’s fault.

Mojave Mark on January 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Cheney’s handiwork no doubt

DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM

The Taliban integrates tightly into rural communities in the isolated areas of Waziristan and the NWFP. If the plague did follow the Taliban back to these areas, it could touch off an epidemic that could cross the border into Afghanistan and ravage both nations,

Given the support that most of these “communities” have been giving to the Taliban, this is not altogether a bad thing.

First, many Taliban supporters die, along with the Taliban.
Second, communities that haven’t been hit by the plague have extreme incentive to expell all Talibani, post haste.

MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Global Warming

MDWNJ on January 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Let the bodies hit the floor.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM

If the plague did follow the Taliban back to these areas, it could touch off an epidemic that could cross the border into Afghanistan and ravage both nations, as well as the NATO forces fighting terrorism on the Afghanistan frontier.

True, however we have the means to slow, contain, and eliminate it, it’s a whole different story of the Islama-holes though…and that makes me so very happy!

I love the irony of this, the Islamo-fascists want so badly to go back to living in the dark ages and now they are getting what they want…enjoy the plague azzholes….HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Liberty or Death on January 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Will they still get the 77 virgins when they arrive in the next world?

DL13 on January 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Will they still get the 77 virgins when they arrive in the next world?

Excellent question. So… is the Black Plague considered and STD?

Mojave Mark on January 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Bubonic plague is caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. Here’s a link to some info about the disease (there are different types of plague). Even though the bacterium is found in nature, what would jihadis be doing with it?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM

This is very very bad news.

My worry would be how did plague get into their camp? Are they/were they experimenting weaponization?

Even if they were just bad luck victims am I the only one worried that AQ now has their hands on infectious plague.

C-Low on January 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM

OT

Obama’s Inauguration Has Been Financed Partially by Bailed-Out Wall Street Executives

By SCOTT MAYEROWITZ
ABC NEWS Business Unit
Jan. 19, 2009

artist on January 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM

RATS

faraway on January 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Were they just victims, or were they trying to weaponize it? Enquiring minds want to know.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM

And where would they use such a weapon? A clever jihadi would probably choose an event attended by a large number of people representing a wide geographic area. Ideally, the event would be of brief duration, allowing the infected to disperse back into the general population before the symptoms begin to manifest. I guess such an event would be too much for a jihadi to hope for.

RedWinged Blackbird on January 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Could this be the result of a failed attempt to spread the plauge in western countries?

RedSoxNation on January 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM

It’s Bush’s fault

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM

You beat me to it……but I am sure that will be said, IF the msm bothers to even say anything…..Hmmmmm, is this good or bad for Barry????

clinker46 on January 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Like the leaves of the forest when summer is green
That host with their banners at sunset were seen
Like the leaves of the forest when autmn hath blown
That host on the morrow lay withered and strown
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deathly and chill
And their hearts but once heaved and forever grew still…

–Byron

morganfrost on January 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Too good to check: Jihadis dying of the Black Plague

Inshallah!
Allah Akbar!

:)

Disturb the Universe on January 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Hmmmmm, is this good or bad for Barry????

clinker46 on January 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM

How does this help Michelle Obama’s children?

Disturb the Universe on January 19, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Will they still get the 77 virgins when they arrive in the next world?

Excellent question. So… is the Black Plague considered and STD?

If not an STD, then a major turnoff

runner on January 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Wouldn’t it be ironic if history books in the future record that Bubonic Plague saved the world? But let’s make sure (and pray) the story is true.

MaiDee on January 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Another version.

BallisticBob on January 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Hmmmm Where is Allah to protect the Muslims???

Has anybody considered how many Muslims have died in the last ten years by acts of God??????

Rick007 on January 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM

ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!

Everyone that falls deserves a prayer!

Mr. Joe on January 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM

If jihadis are dying from it, then other people are dying from it in that part of the world. The UN use to put out monthly or quarterly Morbidity and Moribundity reports. I can’t find them online but I have seen hard copies of them in the past.

Blake on January 19, 2009 at 11:29 AM

The 72 Virgins are in reality 72 Horny male Gorillas in Hades waiting for them. LOL

Rick007 on January 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Zech 14:12
Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth.
NASU

Just sayin’.

davidk on January 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Good job, CIA.

Can the plague be transferred between men through…uh…you know…carnal knowledge? I mean it seemed to spread awfully fast. Just sayin’.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Mommy, look what Muhammad brought us this year for achlechlemmihellimechia! It’s a boil!

Look for another AQ vid stating that they had an “accident” whilst testing a Bio-weap.

leetpriest on January 19, 2009 at 11:33 AM

ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH…..hey, what’s this boil on my face?

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Cheney’s handiwork no doubt
DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM

No, more like God’s work:

Homosexuality brings on AIDS.
Global Warming brings on the next ICE AGE (proving that God has a sense of humor)
Terrorism brings on the BLACK PLAGUE.

Yes, He does work in mysterious ways.

pocomoco on January 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM

“At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages.”

I hope Panetta’s daughter wasn’t present.

Or Penn, Moore, Glover etc…

artist on January 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Pretty ironic that the same savages who want to return the world to the way it was in the middle ages are being dropped by a middle age scourge.

You idiots SURE you want things to be the way they were 1000 years ago? It really wasn’t all that much fun.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM

If you want to follow the darkest trail, perhaps they were guinea pigs martyrs to test delivery modes of the plaque. If it is true at all.

BL@KBIRD on January 19, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Since this comes from The Sun…take this with a huge, Lot’s-Wife-sized grain of salt.

Better to quote it from the Telegraph.

Tzetzes on January 19, 2009 at 11:50 AM

davidk

It is interesting that rotting internally is the process of dying with the Black Death.

BL@KBIRD on January 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM

And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death. He had come like a thief in the night. And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay. And the flames of the tripods expired. And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.

Edgar Allen Poe
from “The Masque of the Red Death”

Disturb the Universe on January 19, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I would support a massive UN style effort to get a handle on this. Of course here in the US we are deeply involved in two wars and therefore can only add our “best wishes” and “moral support” but hey…we do contribute lots of dough to the UN in the first place. So…let’s send in the Blue Helmets and let them fix this for the Arabs!

There have been reports out of Africa of some rapin’ and pilligin’ by the UN Forces but hey…

sabbott on January 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Since the Taleban/AQ is integrated into the population of NWFP & Waziristan, how would the transmission of plague to these populations be a bad thing?

We don’t fight wars to the knife anymore, and are treating a tribal war like one between modern societies – only the leadership matters, people will give up and go home. This is obviously a false policy in an insurrection/tribal attempt to take over the world. Accidental annihilation of the population of NWFP, Waziristan and restive parts of Afghanistan can only be a good thing.

Plague is not a threat to NATO forces or friendly populations where doctors aren’t tortured and killed. I’m only seeing upside here, so why not celebrate it? It’s like the Salafist injunction against immunizations – it will kill off hostile populations, so we should encourage it heartily!

libertarianuberalles on January 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Better to quote it from the Telegraph….. seems to source from The Sun……

Nice if it were true…

t on January 19, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

scalleywag on January 19, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Were they just victims, or were they trying to weaponize it? Enquiring minds want to know.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM

That’s one of the first things I thought of, where did it come from? It isn’t like these folks haven’t been looking to use biological or chemical weapons on us.

Who said “Mark My Words, Gird Your Loins” Tee Hee…

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM

So…let’s send in the Blue Helmets and let them fix this for the Arabs hope they get infected as well!

Disturb the Universe on January 19, 2009 at 12:25 PM

The Tenth and Tiniest Crusaders! The newest burkha could be an isolation suit.

trl on January 19, 2009 at 12:28 PM

For some reason I have a smile which is ear to ear from reading this. It is appropriate that terrorists from a culture which has not progressed since the 1400s is getting killed by a disease from the 1400s.

Mooseman on January 19, 2009 at 12:32 PM

It seems mighty coincidental that these Jihadis are dropping dead of a disease that’s so rare these days.

If this were simply a normal outbreak, wouldn’t there be signs of transmission in these areas prior to this story? Not that I’m scouring the web for plague news, but I don’t recall hearing anything… and THE PLAGUE certainly has some shock value in the media, doesn’t it?

I do see it pop up from time to time, just not recently, and just not there. So where’d it come from all of a sudden?

I’m not saying, but I think this might be worth keeping an eye on….

12thMonkey on January 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM

12thMonkey on January 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM

The fact that it emerged in a jihadi training camp is pretty strong evidence in itself that it was not a “normal” outbreak. Here are some questions to ponder. What if there were simultaneous outbreaks in a half dozen major U.S cities?
Do we have a system in place to contain it?
Would each city have to be quarantined?
Do we have sufficient medication to treat tens of millions of people on short notice?
If not, how many would die while we’re getting our act together?
What effect would all of this have on an already weak economy?

RedWinged Blackbird on January 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM

I do see it pop up from time to time, just not recently, and just not there. So where’d it come from all of a sudden?

I’m not saying, but I think this might be worth keeping an eye on….

12thMonkey on January 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM

The Plague can stay in an area dormant for years only to crop up every generation or so. After the 1348-49 outbreak, Europe was hit again about ten years later, and then at recurring periods until the last outbreak in Eastern Europe at the beginning of the 18th century.

While it could have been the product of bio-war experiments, most likely it’s a natural event. The Plague bacillus is active in that region and does crop up from time to time–just as it does occasionally in the American southwest.

Now, what would have been real fun would have been if the jihadis get the medieval triple-header: Bubonic Plague, pneumonic plague, and septicemic plague all at once. Only thing is, while we can deal with bubonic ok, provided you get to it in time, pneumonic and septicemic are far worse–we really don’t want to get those germs into our population.

Matt Helm on January 19, 2009 at 12:52 PM

FYI – Plague is pretty common in squirrels and chipmunks, etc. in the Rockies and Sierra Nevada mountains. We were in Lake Tahoe a few years ago and signs in the parks warned visitors not to hand feed any animals because of the presence of bubonic plague.
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Is there an easy test that can be used to screen incoming visitors from overseas for infection? (A reactive swab or something that responds to the presence of the bug.)

Recall that WWI ended more due to the affects of the “Spanish Flu” killing 25 million people, than from the battlefields. A few infected al Qaeda terrorists entering Western Society could set off a pandemic of staggering scale. And remember their goal is to devastate the modern world, so the use of a Middle Ages plague would suit them just fine.

in_awe on January 19, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Hey, if the CIA can create the AIDS virus to kill millions of blacks, why not a plague to wipe out jihadis?

Special K on January 19, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Hope its true and that it spreads like wildfire throughout the global jihadist community, it’d be nice if it took a bunch of their lefties/dhimmi sympathizers too. :D I’m reminded of a passage from War of the Worlds:

“Life is real again, and the useless and cumbersome and mischievous have to die. They ought to die. They ought to be willing to die. It’s a sort of disloyalty, after all, to live and taint the race. And they can’t be happy. Moreover, dying’s none so dreadful; it’s the funking makes it bad.

In another moment I had scrambled up the earthen rampart and stood upon its crest, and the interior of the redoubt was below me. A mighty space it was, with gigantic machines here and there within it, huge mounds of material and strange shelter places. And scattered about it, some in their overturned war-machines, some in the now rigid handling-machines, and a dozen of them stark and silent and laid in a row, were the Martians Jihadists—dead!—slain by the putrefactive and disease bacteria against which their systems were unprepared; slain as the red weed was being slain; slain, after all man’s devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth.

For so it had come about, as indeed I and many men might have foreseen had not terror and disaster blinded our minds. These germs of disease have taken toll of humanity since the beginning of things–taken toll of our prehuman ancestors since life began here. But by virtue of this natural selection of our kind we have developed resisting power; to no germs do we succumb without a struggle, and to many–those that cause putrefaction in dead matter, for instance–our living frames are altogether immune. But there are no bacteria in Mars Dar-al-Islam, and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain.

We have learned now that we cannot regard this planet as being fenced in and a secure abiding place for Man; we can never anticipate the unseen good or evil that may come upon us suddenly out of space mecca.”-H. G. Wells

Here’s another related thought by Christopher Hitchens:

…since `89, and then much more since 2001, it’s become evident to me that it’s a fight, not just a disagreement, between civilization and theocracy, and religion — it’s urgent. They mean to destroy our world, and we’re not going to have it.

People will say, “Ah yes, but I once met a priest who was raising charitable money for children,” and so on. I say, “Well, I’ve met them, too. But I could do that without a Godly permission.” My analogy for it is Camus’s novel, “La Peste,” “The Plague.” It goes into remission. The rats go back down into the sewer. But they’re always breeding. They’re always carrying the bacilli. And one day, one day they will again send up their corpses to die in a free city.

And any time you deal with this evil practice on children, or this evil derivation of sexual repression with this surrender of the mind to faith, or this emptying of the intellect, and the prostration in front of the supernatural — even at its best, it’s always dangerous. And when it turns nasty, it’s nasty and dangerous like nothing else.

thinkagain on January 19, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Just in time for the liberal hajj to the inauguration. I would go near that place. Hopefully all the AQ operatives died before they could deliver the package.

pedestrian on January 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Airlift the entire Plum Island and drop it on Afghanistan Bananastand.

Coronagold on January 19, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Ring around the rosy
A pocketful of posies
“Ashes, Ashes”
We They all fall down!

Mojack420 on January 19, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Latestest data from WHO dies in 1998, although they probably have more, it doesn’t look like it’s online…

“Plague is enzootic in the central highlands of Madagascar, where approximately 200 to 400 bacteriologically confirmed or presumptive cases are reported each year to the World Health Organization”

All countries don’t report yearly.

From the CDC a world map, also 1998…

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/plague/world98.pdf

But a small mention on a medical blog,

http://www.gideononline.com/blog/2008/12/06/2008-a-year-of-new-outbreaks-and-new-bugs/

“Four countries reported plague outbreaks during 2008: China, Madagascar, Uganda and the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

It’s not hard to imagine a trip to Madagascar for some of the faithful… wouldn’t be hard to import a few fleas, but it is a bit harder to contain them!

hehehe…

doctors without borders and WHO, etc… should immediately withdraw to US mil bases in Afganistan, and and await the chosen, for a fast cure.

No vaccine is currently commercially produced, but I know the military has stockpiles. Most antibiotics are effective including streptomycin.

Then a fast trip to Gitmo 2.0, 100 miles east of McMurdo station.

docjohn52 on January 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM

It’s easy to wish the plague on AQ, but it might cause more problems in the long run, especially in Pakistan. The Taliban integrates tightly into rural communities in the isolated areas of Waziristan and the NWFP. If the plague did follow the Taliban back to these areas, it could touch off an epidemic that could cross the border into Afghanistan and ravage both nations, as well as the NATO forces fighting terrorism on the Afghanistan frontier.

If this story is true, and some “plagued” Al Qaeda trained in Algeria went to Pakistan, NATO troops in Afghanistan could have a “medical” advantage. If plague started breaking out in Afghanistan, anti-plague medications could be rushed to NATO forces AND Afghan civilians, who would then avoid the Taliban “like the plague”, or as people avoided lepers in Jesus’ time.

A few warning signs that this story may need to be taken with a “Lot’s Wife-sized grain of salt”:

The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa.

Since Algeria is mostly desert, where is the “forest camp”? In the Atlas Mountains, about the only area of Algeria that gets enough rain to support forests?

Why did the Sun write “Algeria, North Africa”. Don’t most people know that Algeria is in northern Africa? Or is the Sun trying to appeal to ignorant people who might not know this?

Steve Z on January 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Wow! And the God King Obama hasn’t even taken His thrown yet!

Tony737 on January 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Excellent question. So… is the Black Plague considered and STD?

Only if you are an A.Q. tango taking a rat as a war bride.

Kristopher on January 19, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Possibly the U.S. Air Force could help out the problem by sterilizing the Jihadi camp area properly.
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I suggest a C-130 with the MOAB (Mother of all Bombs) dropped on the camp and surviving Jihadis. This should prevent future spreading of the plague–and clean up the terrorist problem in the area also.
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A little humanitarian aid you can believe in!
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John Bibb

rocketman on January 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Why did the Sun write “Algeria, North Africa”. Don’t most people know that Algeria is in northern Africa? Or is the Sun trying to appeal to ignorant people who might not know this?

Steve Z on January 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM

These Terrorist have a history, there is a map link included in this article to show some of the geography.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7139627.stm

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Algeria a French Colony? Don’t a lot of Algerians go in and out of France? The same folks that French have problems with assimilating because they won’t adopt French Customs? They keep as many wives as the Koran allows ect…women cover their heads with scarves – hijab head covering…this has been in the news.

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Flea-infested rats … that makes perfect sense actually.

Tony737 on January 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Seems they were so intent on destroying the west
that the very medicines and care
they hated now is the only thing that can save their lives.

One could only hope that they spread it to each other..

Hey if the Koran is so good
If mohammed was so right
then just go out
drink some camel piss
have sex with a virgin and you will be healed..
After all the Koran is always right isnt it?
oh and the world is still FLAT right..>?

Morons..

jcila on January 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM

This is an early article on the same subject, this has been on the minds of scientist this possibility. Girding my Loins.

http://www.cleveland.com/plague/plaindealer/index.ssf?/plague/more/114331771533990.html

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM

I smell USAMRID at work here……this is, after all, the reason that agency exists…..

BobMbx on January 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Looking around his lab, Butler noticed something was amiss. Since his return from Tanzania, he’d cultivated an ample supply of plague bacteria. He’d delivered 30 of his 210 slants to the CDC testing lab in Colorado a few months ago, leaving 180 for himself. But this morning, he could only find 150. One of the wire racks that should have been full of plague slants was missing 30 vials.

http://www.cleveland.com/plague/plaindealer/index.ssf?/plague/more/114331771533990.html

Scroll down in the article to the heading about the missing viles “30″

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Tanzania the AQ connection.

http://www.thisday.co.tz/News/4561.html

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Do we have a system in place to contain it?

RedWinged Blackbird on January 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM

The CDC website is a good place to start, the CDC works with several organizations including organizations whose main function is emergency response and containment to disease outbreaks.

CDC Emergency Preparedness and Response

Liberty or Death on January 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM

’’Tanzania has increasingly become the focus of attention for terrorists because of the country’s strong relationship with the West, particularly the United States, which culminated in (US) President George Bush making a historic visit to Tanzania in February this year,’’ said a source familiar with the reports.

In his visit to Tanzania, President Bush signed the largest US financial support to the country, targeting infectious diseases and economic development projects in the sub-Saharan single nation.

http://www.thisday.co.tz/News/4561.html

What am I supposed to be paying attention to right now? Pomp and Circumstance? That’s the News Cycle?

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM

After scanning the posts I see that most posters don’t know how the plague is spread. The bubonic variety is spread through flea bites. If the camp was sitting on top of some rodent burrows and the little critters had an outbreak then I can see how 40 people can come down with it in a short time. However, unless it is the pneumonic form it isn’t going anywhere. The incubation period is so short and the disease so debilitating that Jihadis aren’t going to make it to Pakistan before they die. If the story is true it would either have to be cause by a bubonic case that turned pneumonic and spread to others or an experiment gone wrong. I would not doubt that if they were playing with it that the bozos would screw it up and infect themselves.

jerryofva on January 19, 2009 at 3:14 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/plague/

The Butler story.

Dr Evil on January 19, 2009 at 3:34 PM

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