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By: Schools close when fuel turns to goo « Top Daily Digest Reading

Schools close when fuel turns to goo « Top Daily Digest Reading — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:25:00 +0000

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By: Glenn Beck and other BioFools | Minneapolis Metblogs

Glenn Beck and other BioFools | Minneapolis Metblogs — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:19:25 +0000

[...] number of radio yappers, bloggers and teevee hosts have taken the Bloomington school bus/biodiesel story I discussed here earlier and [...]

By: oldleprechaun

oldleprechaun — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:25:51 +0000

Enough of this whining, you racist, un-patriotic, bigot!!!

“We had students at bus stops longer than we think is acceptable, and that’s too dangerous in these types of temperatures,”

Last week, THE ONE announced that everyone was going to need to sacrifice. Didn’t you realize that he meant the Chilllldruun, too?

By: Coastal Paradise

Coastal Paradise — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:45:04 +0000

My question is why are the kids standing that long in the freezing cold anyway? Who is still in the warm house sipping coffee or something! It does not even get really cold here but many a mornings during the winter months I go down to the bus stop with my kid and if the bus does not come on time I pile in the car as many kids as legal and get their butts to school! The parents know this and all they do is say “Ugh, thanks”.
Hopefully the kids will return the favor when they get to be big kids.

By: Bio-Diesel Days | Fuelishness! Fuel Economy Blog

Bio-Diesel Days | Fuelishness! Fuel Economy Blog — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:59:07 +0000

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By: Jeanette

Jeanette — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:50:05 +0000

Well, you do realize you are talking about the Great State of Minnesota who gave us Jesse Ventura and is about to steal a Senate seat from Norm Coleman to give it to the ever so kind and funny Stuart Smalley a.k.a. Al Franken.

So what do you expect? Buses that run on gasoline or what?

By: MirCat

MirCat — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:45:56 +0000

This guy's master plan is in full effect. - The Cat P.S. Either him or the bad guy in Recess The Movie.

By: rmel80

rmel80 — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:10:22 +0000

As a truck driver this is one of the big fears that we have during brutally cold winters like this one. Using additive when it gets below 10 degrees usually keeps us in the clear. Just one gallon of additive for each 100 gallons of fuel keeps the freight moving. Never used the Bio D and thankful!

By: Django

Django — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:57:25 +0000

Who knew Minnesotan’s could be so stupid…. Oh that’s right you’re sending a washed up comedian and failed radio talk show host to DC as your Senator.

Stupid, stupid, stupid

roux on January 19, 2009 at 7:55 PM

And let’s not forget Governor Jesse Ventura. Weird how lib states seem to be selecting their governors from castmembers of the movie “Predator.”

Next New Jersey governor: Carl Weathers

By: Claimsratt

Claimsratt — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:52:23 +0000

Does the school district have good liability insurance? The district knew of the problem as it did request an exemption. I see a creative plaintiff attorney making a few bucks with this.

By: eaglewingz08

eaglewingz08 — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:12:47 +0000

So we’ll have fewer Al frankenfurter voters in the future due to biodeisel flaws. Is that such a baaad thing? Anyway, global warming will make Minnesota like Florida by the end of Obama’s presidency, so this is just a minor hiccup on the glorious road to green socialism.

By: Kermit

Kermit — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:56:17 +0000

Lots of Arctic diesel used to be shipped to Canada via ship from Texaco, Port Arthur, TX. All they did was load a ratio, which I forget, of naphtha and diesel which the ship would just pump from tank to tank to blend it on the voyage around the east coast and up the St. Lawrence.

By: roux

roux — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:55:15 +0000

Who knew Minnesotan’s could be so stupid…. Oh that’s right you’re sending a washed up comedian and failed radio talk show host to DC as your Senator.

Stupid, stupid, stupid

By: Red State State of Mind

Red State State of Mind — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:40:01 +0000

Using biodiesel for the reasons liberals like (e.g. fighting “global warming”) is absurd, but I am a fan of biodiesel for what I think are valid reasons: first, reducing our dependence on OPEC, and second, because petroleum is non-renewable and eventually will run out. Second, I think there’s something really empowering about being able to grow your own fuel in your back yard rather than having to transport it from some far away place like Texas or Alaska. So, I don’t oppose the use of bio-fuel. I do think it’s absurd that their state refused to let the buses refuel with petro-diesel (diesel engines can use either fuel). And I’m glad to learn about the high freezing temperature of diesel, that’s something I didn’t know about.

joe_doufu on January 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I am also a proponent of Bio Deisel when it is the appropriate solution. It’s ironic that people in charge of educating children didn’t do the appropriate research about bio deisel’s reaction to super low temperatures. Personally, I blame G W Bush./s
I think one wrong headed approach to ‘solving’ our energy problems is to believe in such a massive nation as the US we can have one solution.
Wind may make sense from Texas up into the Great Plains (saw a Map on Pickens depicting the areas with strong consistent wind)
Bio Deisel could be a solution in warmer parts of the country
Obviously, solar works better in Arizona than Minnesota too. Ed, should we call someone up there on the School Board before they outfit the buses with those big black solar cell screens?

By: right2bright

right2bright — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:37:12 +0000

right2bright on January 19, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Weight of Glory on January 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I believe that’s the first combo Comment of the Day™. Congratulations.

steveegg on January 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

He made an ok statement, exceptional…

By: Hog Wild

Hog Wild — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:36:04 +0000

Have the kids push the bus, the exertion will keep them warm…..

By: BoSox_or_Bust

BoSox_or_Bust — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:12:38 +0000

All you have to do is put your oil-based salad dressing in the refrigerator overnight. Everyone knows what happens . . . you have to let it warm up a bit before using it. THE OIL COAGULATES. Idiots.

By: jeannie

jeannie — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:02:35 +0000

I have always lived below the Mason/Dixon line. We had a GM diesel in the 1980′s. If you did not use special diesel or use a additive, the car would get about 5 miles from home and die. This happen to us in Maryland and North Carolina. Just because you live in a area that does not usually get cold, does not mean it will not. I was raised in Atlanta, GA. One day it got so cold, the natural gas line coming into our house froze.

By: Pelayo

Pelayo — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:39:43 +0000

All German tanks in WW2 ran on gasoline.

No! MaYbe the Panzer I, II, or early III’s. It was American Tanks that used gasoline until the M24 and M26 arrived.

By: Pelayo

Pelayo — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:27:05 +0000

Germans and Russians both used diesel. There were other problems too. Extreme cold causes grease in transmissions to become so thick that it stiffens the tranny into uselessness. Ethylene glycol and alcohol have their limits. The Germans may have been forced to stretch the anti-freeze and not have the extra low temperature protection. The Germans may also have run out of the additives that keep diesel flowing at low temps.

The school system and the State are arguing over the problem. The state says the school system allowed water into the fuel.

By: KW64

KW64 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:13:55 +0000

To liberal environmentalists who want the government to dictate all things, people are bad and the planet is good. You are lucky they do not make the children walk to school in the 1st place in order to minimize global warming. It does not matter if a few peasant children freeze as long as the Central State Planning Bureau is kept safely in charge.

By: johnnyU

johnnyU — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:04:59 +0000

There are so many ways to counter that problem it isnt funny.

By: Princeps

Princeps — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:56:40 +0000

You need to convert the buses to run on unicorn farts.

By: Kafir

Kafir — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:48:28 +0000

The state does too good of a job in clearing roads and getting kids on the bus to let it interfere with their education.

And yet the products of that school system elected Al Franken. Do us a favor, MN, let the kids stay home when it gets bad.

By: Geministorm

Geministorm — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:42:46 +0000

I’ve had first hand experience with government “experts”. Not only was I not impressed, but I was actually surprised to find out how stubborn an (idiotic) engineer, that is used to having subordinates bow to his will/mandates, can be in seeing their errors. I had a good 1.5 hour long shouting match with one letting him know that he didn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground before he finally submitted and came back with, “Well, I never thought there was a problem in the first place, we just needed someone to play devil’s advocate on the matter”. Suffice it to say, if a government bureaucrat thinks the solution is (A), then I’m certain that its not.

Down here in Florida, I have a friend that uses Bio-diesel. He was using it because when gas got up over $4/gal, he could get biodiesel cheaper. However, there is almost no chance that temps will get down to -10F here…