Has Martin Luther King’s “Dream” been fulfilled?

posted at 9:32 am on January 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

A new CNN poll asks the question on Martin Luther King Day, and not surprisingly, the election of America’s first black president appears to have made a big difference from earlier responses.  Last year at this time, only a third of African-Americans believed that we had achieved King’s vision.  This year, two-thirds say we have fulfilled the promise, but surprisingly, whites are more pessimistic:

More than two-thirds of African-Americans believe Martin Luther King Jr.’s vision for race relations has been fulfilled, a CNN poll found — a figure up sharply from a survey in early 2008.

The CNN-Opinion Research Corp. survey was released Monday, a federal holiday honoring the slain civil rights leader and a day before Barack Obama is to be sworn in as the first black U.S. president.

The poll found 69 percent of blacks said King’s vision has been fulfilled in the more than 45 years since his 1963 “I have a dream” speech — roughly double the 34 percent who agreed with that assessment in a similar poll taken last March.

But whites remain less optimistic, the survey found.

“Whites don’t feel the same way — a majority of them say that the country has not yet fulfilled King’s vision,” CNN polling director Keating Holland said. However, the number of whites saying the dream has been fulfilled has also gone up since March, from 35 percent to 46 percent.

Glenn Reynolds says the difference between responses from whites and blacks comes from a guilt to which whites cling.  I’m not certain that’s it entirely, although I think some on the hard Left like to use it as a crutch to justify their somewhat totalitarian policy demands.  Without having American society to decry for its racist/imperialist bent, their policies of confiscation and elite control make no sense at all, to the extent they ever did.  Acknowledging that a free-market, democratic nation can make that kind of progress knocks the legs out from under the International ANSWER/World Can’t Wait crowd.

I’d say that the more pessimistic attitude coming from whites may not be pessimism at all, but a sense that whites don’t have the standing to make that call, in a philosophical sense at least.  We don’t live the black experience, and while that gets overstated at times, it still means that we don’t necessarily notice barriers when they exist.  The best we can do is to make sure that we don’t discriminate in government policy, law enforcement, and the marketplace, and hope for the day when racial divisions become as meaningful as the conflicts between the Irish and the Italians a century ago.

Electing a black President goes a long way to proving that we have indeed fulfilled Martin Luther King’s vision of America as a place of true equality.  That doesn’t make me a fan of Barack Obama, mind you, because I’m much more concerned over policy than skin color — and that’s also a fulfillment of Dr.King’s vision.  It just makes me a fan of America.


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The opposite of King’s dream has been realized – the victory of race over content (competence and character).

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I’d say that the more pessimistic attitude coming from whites may not be pessimism at all, but a sense that whites don’t have the standing to make that call, in a philosophical sense at least.

Another way of looking at it would be that whites, having experienced growing levels of anti-white racism coming out of govt, are less optimistic that our country is moving in the right direction.

MarkTheGreat on January 19, 2009 at 9:36 AM

I dunno…was Obama judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM

The opposite of King’s dream has been realized – the victory of race over content (competence and character).

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

This is exactly right and why I believe whites polled the way they did.

KickandSwimMom on January 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM

MLK had the courage of his convictions. He had the guts to face down the discrimination that was enforced illegally against “colored” people. Obambi’s experience, sheltered in corrupt Chicago, is nothing like MLK’s experience.
For one thing, MLK would have never tolerated the acceptance by Obambi of the abortion culture. MLK understood that Planned Parenthood was actually started to keep the minority population suppressed.
Obambi will risk nothing but, take credit for everything.

sheriff246 on January 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM

The opposite of King’s dream has been realized – the victory of race over content (competence and character).

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Precisely

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Electing a black President goes a long way to proving that we have indeed fulfilled Martin Luther King’s vision of America as a place of true equality.

Would you, and all of them, feel the same if the black man had been Mumia?

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I would have put down that MLK’s vision has NOT been fulfilled, but not because of guilt or lack of the “black experience.”

I would have said “no” because Obama WAS judged by the color of his skin, not by the content of his character.

His character flaws are numerous, yet we are chastised at every turn by the left and the media (redundant, I know) whenever his honesty, integrity or judgment are questioned.

IrishEi on January 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM

If his dream really had been realized, there would not be a cult of personality over Obama based almost entirely on the color of his skin and not at all on the content of his character.

Sad.

MadisonConservative on January 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Previous commenters are absolutely right.

A long as there is a skin color requirement for legitimacy, King’s dream is in vain.

We have come 360 degrees in race relations. While it sounds like we’ve come a long way, we’re actually right back where we started.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Electing a black President goes a long way to proving that we have indeed fulfilled Martin Luther King’s vision of America as a place of true equality.

But we haven’t had an Indian President, nor a Chinese President, nor a Pkistani President, nor an Eskimo President …

If this is your measure of “true equality” then we have a long list of people to put in that office before we “get there”. It could take hundreds of years to become such a place of equality. I mean, really.

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

There’s still way too much identity politics going on. I’d say we’ve actually regressed.

forest on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

While it sounds like we’ve come a long way, we’re actually right back where we started.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I actually don’t think it’s quite that bad, but you’re not far off the mark.

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

There’s still way too much identity politics going on. I’d say we’ve actually regressed.

forest on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Very much so.

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Not as long as the Supreme Court thinks “diversity” (of ethinicity and skin color, not opinion) is a compelling government interest justifying treating people differently based on race or ethiniciyt.

Wethal on January 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

No!

MLK wanted to be equal… By content of the person, BHO has NO content, just color and can articulate radical ideas in a loving way… He’s a radical pimp, selling his goods…

So no, MLK would be ashamed, not proud of the 95% of moronic blacks that voted for this empty suit.

Welfare has destroyed the black family, now The Messiah will finish the job by his wealth redistribution plans and further dependancy… Abortion and welfare… Sad, not what the great MLK had in mind when he fought and died for EQUAL treatment, not for a stupid, ungrateful, uneducated flock of black sheeple.

Mark Garnett on January 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

This year, two-thirds [of African Americans] say we have fulfilled the promise, but surprisingly, whites are more pessimistic:

You watch. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson cannot have the dream fulfilled. It would put them out of a job.

NoFanofLibs on January 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

The opposite of King’s dream has been realized – the victory of race over content (competence and character).

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Yep.

davidk on January 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

No: Barack was judged by the contents of his words, not his deeds. Deeds are more refective of character than words. And, so far, Obama has done too few deeds to even judge the content of his character, whether good or bad.

michaelo on January 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

I actually don’t think it’s quite that bad, but you’re not far off the mark.

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Your heart will sink when you hear the word “reparations.”

Listen for it, because it will mean one class of citizens will become beholden — by the force of law — to the other class, and the injustice will be defended by arrogant references to the moral inferiority of the beholden class.

Same structure, different players.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Remember, Gang, character is the way you act when you think no one is watching.
Is hanging out with Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, and the Chicago Political Machine and example of Good Character? No.

Therefore, Barack was elected more on the color of his skin than the content of his character.

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

While it sounds like we’ve come a long way, we’re actually right back where we started.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I actually don’t think it’s quite that bad, but you’re not far off the mark.

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Actually, it’s worse. Jeff is correct in that we are right back where we started. However, affirmative action, hate crimes legislation and other civil rights initiatives have turned the table in another plane. The victims now are more frequently the majority–in particular young, white males.

I am not saying that there are no longer any white racists and bigots–there are and probably always will be. But we know that there are also black racists and bigots (cue Rev. Wright and his congregants as just one example.) The difference is that blacks and other minorities who are discriminated against have protection under the law. They are a protected class. Try, just try, to file a discrimination lawsuit if you are white.

IrishEi on January 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Obama’s election has nothing to do with MLK’s “dream”. Just as others have said, people are still frequently judged based on the color of their skin.

Just the fact that we’re making a big deal about Obama getting elected for no other reason than he’s black means that it is not only not being fulfilled but MLK’s dream is being ignored and has probably been lost to time.

Kronos on January 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

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kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

As my friend succinctly stated last night:

“the election of BHO showed he didnt knock down barriers, it showed the barriers were already down.”

blatantblue on January 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

The opposite of King’s dream has been realized – the victory of race over content (competence and character).
progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Exactly. Obama was elected because he was black. And there is no other explanation. It was because blacks wanted someone who looked like them, and it was because of white (mostly liberal) guilt. What accomplishments does Obama have?

Was it this?

Or

Maybe this?

His single qualification on his resume is the ability to get elected.

wise_man on January 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

For the liberals and the MSM electing a black president is only half the battle. Now they are engaged in the second half. In their minds it will be bad for race relations if the first black president were a failure and therefore no matter what happens during the next four years, Obama WILL be seen as a great president.

PackerBronco on January 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I’d like to see these questions answered:
1) Since Dr. King’s 1963 speech, has “white America” opened the door sufficiently to allow “black America” to achieve the American Dream?
2) If yes, have blacks taken full advantage of this?

The bottom line is we need leaders who can change the equation from black vs. white to good vs. bad, right vs. wrong. This won’t happen as long as the press treats the race-baiters (Jackson, Sharpton, etc.) as legit.

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

PackerBronco on January 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Chrissy Matthews admitted that he will work to help BHO succeed. Others in the MSM will do so also.

jgapinoy on January 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

As long as the majority of blacks act like victims, no it hasnt been realized. As long as we have Affirmative Action, no it hasnt been realized. As long as we continue to even speak of race, no it hasnt been realized.

I also dont think MLK would approve of blacks playing the race card at every opportunity.

becki51758 on January 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

As my friend succinctly stated last night:

“the election of BHO showed he didnt knock down barriers, it showed the barriers were already down.”

blatantblue on January 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Ironically, IMHO there is a significant barrier that blacks have to overcome: The black-on-black prejudice against conservative blacks.

SPCOlympics on January 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

We didn’t need the election of the leftist Obama to prove this is true. I have dream too, I have a dream that one day race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton will no longer have a platform to extort money from people. I have dream that the Conservative Whites will be judged by the content of their character and not a slip of the tongue. I have dream that one day we will put away PC garbage and allow people to speak freely. I have a dream that one day the white citizen of America will get over their White guilt, and judge everyone by the content of their character and not lower the standard for people of color, and would instead offer a helping hand the reach the standard.

I have a dream

Kjeil on January 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Kjeil on January 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Amen!!

becki51758 on January 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I’d say that the more pessimistic attitude coming from whites may not be pessimism at all, but a sense that whites don’t have the standing to make that call, in a philosophical sense at least. ***

Whites don’t think MLK’s dream has been achieved because it hasn’t. MLK’s dream featured black empowerment through race-blind socialism. (I like MLK’s racial message, but I could have done without the socialism.)

But identity politics has completely taken over. 90% of blacks normally vote for Democrats, irrespective of the policies of the Democrats for whom they vote — especially if they are black. That was never proven more true in Obama’s case. He attracted 95% of the black vote. I personally know at least 3 conservative blacks who voted for Obama because of the significance of electing a black president, even though they didn’t agree with his policies.

The irony is, the fierce loyalty blacks demonstrate to the Democratic party (and especially to black Democratic politicians) is never repaid. What did Rep. Jefferson do for black New Orleans residents, besides divert search and rescue personnel to save his $90k in the fridge? What has the CBC done that has actually improved the lives of black people? What will Obama do for black America? Black voters have managed to marginalize themselves because Democrats know that their vote is always guaranteed no matter what. Very sad.

Outlander on January 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM

We don’t live the black experience,

“The black experience” of being descended from slaves and having a family legacy of race-based segregation and oppression? Barack Obama, son of a white hippie teenager and a black Kenyan exchange student, hasn’t lived that experience either.

Or perhaps you meant the more modern “black experience” of having your application to schools like Columbia and Harvard accepted over the applications of more-qualified white and Oriental applicants, because your skin color is darker than theirs? That’s a “black experience” Obama knows something about.

AZCoyote on January 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Can King’s dream be realized when Obama is only half black? Perhaps half the dream has been realized. Or perhaps the dream has been realized because Obama IS half black/half white.

To quote Jerry Seinfeld holding up a balck and white cookie, “Look to the cookie, Eliane. Look to the cookie.”

Mr_Magoo on January 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM

AZCoyote on January 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Well put.

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Racial equality doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s one variable in the equation for a democratic republic to survive and prosper. It leaves out so much it’s like Bill O’Reilly’s ridiculous loaded poll question: Do you want Barack Obama to succeed? The tabulated results of such a question are meaningless. It’s like asking, “Do you want the war to be over?”

whitetop on January 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Actually Bono weighed in yesterday and stated before he sang that King’s dream had been realized. And it was on Headline News. So it must be true.

Mr_Magoo on January 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM

It’s not difficult to find tons of dirt on MLK. Just type his name and “adulterer”, or his name and “communist”, or his name and “plagiarist”, into a search engine. If you think these are all internet fables, rest assured that snopes is not exactly a bastion of right-wing extremism. It’s especially problematic that he clung to the title Reverend throughout his public life. Palling around with communists and whores is not a lifestyle worthy of being revered. But he was an excellent speaker (even though some of his speeches had plenty of borrowed thoughts and words).
I would suggest that today be called Racial Equality Day instead, but where’s the equality when the only reasons that his dirt is swept under the rug are that he’s Black and martyred? Where’s the equality when we have Black History Month every February, but no Asian History Month? Where’s the equality when the only reasons that Barack H. Obama will rise to the pinnacle of temporal power tomorrow are that he’s Black and a good speaker (who also happens to borrow thoughts and words from others’ speeches)?

jgapinoy on January 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Could we please put Obama’s color in perspective?

HE’S ONLY HALF BLACK. THE OTHER HALF OF HIM IS WHITE and everyone keeps forgetting that he is the product of a dippy mother and an irresponsible hatemongering father, who dumped Obama on his grandmother’s doorstep to be raised, only to have her abused decades later as a “typical white person”.

Mommynator on January 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Mommynator, dont you know that you could be only 1/4 black, you’re still black!

teehee

blatantblue on January 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Placing one group, no matter how “deserved” by past grievance, in legal ascendance over another group, stricly on the color of the skin… is not progress.

If I, as a White Male, said I was proud I was White, I would be a Racist… yet Black Pride, and Chicano Pride, organizations not only exist, but get public funding.

If I gave a scholarship, to WHITE kids, I’d be castigated by society, and yet scholaraships are given out becaue you are black, on a consistant bases.

Small business organization? check the rules out to get money from them…

Even College admissions still use Racial quotas… and its easier to get grants if your “ethnic”.

Heck, us white folk are not even supposed to get angry anymore… but it IS OK for other ethnic groups, as that is cultural…

The root problem is that ethnic people want to be treated equaly, while ethnic Groups want to be treated Specialy…. and we have caved to blatant unfairness for the individual, in order to kow tow to the groups…

So, no, we are not closer, and not going to get there as long as ANY Race based laws are in force…

Romeo13 on January 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

It is not just, as progressoverpeace says, that “The opposite of King’s dream has been realized.” Rather that the dream has been outright repudiated by most Blacks.

Diane C. Russell on January 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM

From Ed:

We don’t live the black experience, and while that gets overstated at times, it still means that we don’t necessarily notice barriers when they exist.

From MadisonConservative:

If his dream really had been realized, there would not be a cult of personality over Obama based almost entirely on the color of his skin and not at all on the content of his character.

Sad.

MadisonConservative on January 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Hmmm. Perhaps the cult due to the color of his skin is partly because blacks think that this guy knows what they’ve been through, and his character (which they see as springing not from minor-league Illinois politics but instead from his black ethnicity) will, in their eyes, move him to remove the invisible barriers Ed mentions.

I have no doubt that there are invisible barriers — I went to elementary school in Buffalo, NY (PS 52), and when I read the history of PS 52 recently, the fact that it was a segregated school hit me hard — I had never realized the fact that, as an elementary schooler, I was on the good side of an invisible wall. Had I stayed in Buffalo, I would have gone to McKinley High — another segregated school. My teachers were kind and good, yet I wonder what role they played in all of this.

Who knows — Obama came late to his blackness, but they may be right. I personally keep hoping that he may make the logical connection between the institutions of slavery and abortion, before it is too late and he cements the latter wrong in the same manner that the former was cemented in our courts for over a century.

unclesmrgol on January 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM

and we have caved to blatant unfairness for the individual, in order to kow tow to the groups…

Romeo13 on January 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Exactly. And that is as un-American as it gets.

progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM

I dunno…was Obama judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Is the person swearing in tomorrow even a citizen? Just curious.

johnnyU on January 19, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Has King’s dream been fulfilled? Depends on how you look at it.

If you’re talking “has a black skinned individual gotten into the Oval Office”, then yes.

If you’re talking “has America gotten past racial divides so that all people are seen as equals”, then no. You can thank the Jackson/Sharpton brigade for this failure.

I actually think King would be devastated at the state of the black family in 2009.

ErinF on January 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM

The opposite has happened. “The content of his character” has never been examined. Who is Barack Obama without the exotic name and extra pigment? John Edwards at best.

Theworldisnotenough on January 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM

dont you know that you could be only 1/4 black, you’re still black!

And herein lies all of my questions when it comes to reparations (which will rear its ugly head very soon):

Do you have to be 100% black to receive reparations benefits? Can someone who is half-black/half-something-else get in on the handouts? If someone is 10% black, do they only get 10% of the maximum handout? How about if someone looks black, but is 100% white; do they have a chance at a handout as well? Or, if you are 100% black but are not a descendent of slaves, do you get a handout? What about the blacks that had ancestors that captured and sold the slaves to the whites? Is Hussein’s government going to have to form a special Department of Ethnicity to delve into people’s ancestry in order to determine an individual’s percentage of handout? Will we be seeing an increase of inter-racial marriages and offspring as people seek to get their hands into the reparations piggy bank? Or, does one only have to swear eternal allegiance to The One and be in poverty to receive monies (including typical white people)? Will there be a breaking point at which taxpayers will say “enough”? Why won’t people wake up before it’s too late?

So many questions…

ErinF on January 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Did anyone ask Jesse or Al? Of course, Jesse has probably been spending the last several weeks conducting shakedowns of businesses before he loses too much juice on Jan 20th.

GarandFan on January 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM

No, electing a black President did not fulfill MLK’s vision of America as a ‘place of true equality’. Obama’s record of equality does not extend to the unborn. When more than 50% of African-American babies are aborted, the highest in any group, there is no true equality to all. A few African-American (http://blackgenocide.org/) are speaking out about this holocaust but they are drown out by 90% who support Obama. God have mercy on us and every other possible African-American baby. The future of benignly assimilated America also rest on them.

atemely on January 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM

If the “Dream” was for us to become a Communist State, we’re one step closer, if not right at the doorstep.

But, if the “Dream” was for economic success and prosperity, the vision will be pushed farther out of reach for everyone, and for the poor, even farther.

This may be a symbolic victory for Blacks, but the reality is cruelly different.

franksalterego on January 19, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I think this country has made great strides in the last 50 years in achieving MLK’s dream of a person being judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin. However, the process is no where near complete. There is still a lot racism and reverse racism (a misnomer – racism is racism).
I’m not sure BHO was really elected because of race. I think the Dems could have pulled this election off with any empty headed puppet. The fact that he’s black is just a bonus to them.

imshocked on January 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM

“It doesn’t matter if Maryland is broke as long as Barack Obama is president.”

Yeah, dream realized.

No one cares that he’s done nothing, stands for a whole lot of stuff (depending on how the wind blows). I’m black, and I know as fact that most if not all of what he stands for is not what nearly every black person I know stands for (well, with the exception of my college friends), yet they voted anyway. I couldn’t mention the effects of socialized medicine w/o getting shot down, couldn’t mention that Jeremiah Wright is not exactly a Bible-believing Christian w/o getting yelled over…he stands against so many of their beliefs yet it didn’t matter.

Dubn8tr on January 19, 2009 at 10:45 AM

My favorite MLK quotes:

“Frogmore, S.C. ”
November, 14, 1966
“There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.

Tim Burton on January 19, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I fear this is going to end badly.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2009 at 10:46 AM

franksalterego on January 19, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Exactly. I was able to keep my parents from drinking the kool-aid this election, and we always talk about how symbolic it is, but once you peel back the skin, we’re all screwed no matter what we look like.

So many people will have a rude awakening.

Dubn8tr on January 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I dunno…was Obama judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Right. While I am thrilled to hear that a good percentage of American blacks believe that this great moral goal has been reached – there is still the obvious reality of a bizarre racial double standard being played by white liberals like a game of three card Monty.

Jaibones on January 19, 2009 at 10:49 AM

If the issue weren’t about blacks and whites, Mr. Obama would never have been elected, mainly because he has no experience in government or governing. That fact shows that fixing the problem of racism still has a long way to go. Its all about black entitlement and white guilt.
When the time comes that this nation elects a black President and no one brings that fact up, then we will have ended racism and reverse-racism in this country, not before.

gordo on January 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Ask yourself this. Do you believe that a white man with the exact same political views and track record, the same voting record and the same list of accomplishments, experience and training would have been elected President of the United States? If you can answer yes, then you do not consider this a racist election. Otherwise it is.

MikeA on January 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Dubn8tr on January 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM

It’s a shame that a Black man with actual moral character and a desire to serve others was not elected. It would have been a good thing. I’ve come to the conclusion this isn’t. I will continue to pray for his salvation, though.

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I think the Dems could have pulled this election off with any empty headed puppet. The fact that he’s black is just a bonus to them.

imshocked on January 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM

That’s exactly what they did.

DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM

MLK’s words were quite clear: people should be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Since Obama’s character was never really examined, then he was elected solely on the color of his skin. Therefore, Dr. King’s dream has not been fulfilled in the slightest.

Kafir on January 19, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Another thing to consider. If the Obama admisistration proves to be a epic failure, what will be the effect on the future opportunities of other more qualified black people in the world of politics?

MikeA on January 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I dunno…was Obama judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?

flipflop on January 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Short but to the point! As another one pointed out that MLK wanted Equal rights for all colors…..The Ones character is the poison. I do believe that if MLK was alive today, he wouldn’t support The One. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so. Some especially the young ones, wasn’t taught the truth. I didn’t fall for the White Guilt. I know a bad apple when I see the worm.

sheebe on January 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Until “affirmative action” goes away in business, government, schools, etc. Dr. King’s Dream will not be realized. Am I bitter? No, but I have been amused at the incompetents hired to fulfill quotas of minorities, women, etc. They are usually successfully isolated into do-the-least-harm jobs until they get promoted to fill more quotas. Then all hell can break loose.

GeneSmith on January 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Ironically, IMHO there is a significant barrier that blacks have to overcome: The black-on-black prejudice against conservative blacks.

SPCOlympics on January 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

+100

BacaDog on January 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM

yeah if his dream was to have a 25% african american as president..otherwise NO!

Hellpig on January 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Obama has destoyed MLK’s dream. Anybody who rose to power by playing the race card isn’t in the image of MLK, and anybody who blissfully tolerates hatred to win votes isn’t in the image of MLK, and anybody who continues to support policies that limit the potential of African Americans isn’t either.

Obama has set race relations back by 40 years.

notagool on January 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM

If this is your measure of “true equality” then we have a long list of people to put in that office before we “get there”. It could take hundreds of years to become such a place of equality. I mean, really.
progressoverpeace on January 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

No problem. We simply line up a list of candidates to fulfill what needs to be done and voila, look how great we are.

Republicans and conservatives need not apply, they are incapable of being “real” minorities.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM

50% of this nation is female, yet not one POTUS has ever been a woman.

I would say the country is a failure, time to pack it up and sell everything to Canada.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM

MikeA on January 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM

This is my concern.

Dubn8tr on January 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Yeah, put Drywall in charge. He knows it all anyway.
/sarc off

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Blacks have been “above parity” for decades…they are slobbered over by liberal, and cowered conservatives…say something “wrong”, one false move and you are vilified. People go out of their way to introduce themselves, so they don’t look like a “bigot”, the most overused word in our society.
Oprah, fully accepted by and one of the wealthiest women in the world, and certainly one of the most popular; Michael Jordan, on a pedestal and revered; Maya Angelou try to diss one of her works; Will Smith, number one in box office, the list goes on. Yeah, there are some who don’t like blacks…and some Chinese, and some Pollock s, and some Italians, and some Mexicans, and some Catholics, and some Mormons, and some fat people, and some skinny people, and some don’t like models, and some don’t like “jocks”, some don’t like short people (you know, the “Napoleon complex”) some don’t like anyone…the fact is, just as many don’t like blacks as any other “race”, for about the same reason, whatever that reason is…the difference is people are not allowed to not like “blacks”…

right2bright on January 19, 2009 at 11:24 AM

They are usually successfully isolated into do-the-least-harm jobs until they get promoted to fill more quotas. Then all hell can break loose.

GeneSmith on January 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM

And to add to that, the nagging feeling from the black that was “chosen”…they always have that feeling that others look at them and say “yeah, but if he/she weren’t black…”. Other words, it is a hollow victory to be promoted, and those “affirmative actions” casts a shadow across all the promotions deserved and earned.

right2bright on January 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Yeah, put Drywall in charge. He knows it all anyway.
/sarc off
kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Well crap, I forgot about that.

Eh, Dryrot couldn’t afford to buy the leftover beer in my fridge so we may dodge a bullet on that one.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I don’t think the dream is entirely fulfilled–maybe race will never be neutral in America–but what nobody wants to talk about is this: Obama was raised largely in white, middle class culture, abandoned by his black father (and later his lefty mother). He does not come from “the black experience” or the liberal experience, but from traditional American experience.

At this point, the ghetto culture lionized by music and the arts is the main harm to young black kids. When black leaders are honest enough to denounce the Rev. Wrights of the world, who hold back black people in a fatalistic self-pity, then the dream will be fulfilled.

PattyJ on January 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I don’t believe it has been fulfilled, but I don’t feel guilty. Rather, I see it as just one of the final steps in the process, to apply Glenn’s “process not an event” saying.

It is encouraging to see that a large majority of blacks do, however. That in itself is another of the steps.

All in all, it is inevitable the process will be substantially complete in the next decade and there is no going back. Gone are the “held back” arguments and lost is the appeal to the “separate” and “different” attitudes. Blacks have achieved via their own realization, and through force of will and determination, assimmilation.

But it’s been going on in small ways, each modification of behavior and attitude, on both sides, for a long time adding up to this. I suppose Obama’s election is a good thing in that it put a much more obvious post-paid stamp on the process — a blatantly obvious and irrefutable one — but it would have happened anyway in a similar but slightly longer time even without it.

It will be interesting to see if another group takes their place as the aggrieved for being disenfranchised from society-at-large. By definition, some group inhabits the lowest rung, but society-at-large is pretty much a homogenized representation of all groups now, so it will be difficult.

As for other white not seeing it in percentages as blacks do, I chalk that up to the shock and denial that the MLK’s dream of the future could be achieved.

The part I like best Obama’s election is that it will soon be cool for blacks to become conservatives.

Dusty on January 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Given the rampant racism across America, the shameful answer is no. No it has not.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Given the rampant racism across America, the shameful answer is no. No it has not.
Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Or Canada for that matter.

North America…just chock full o’ racists.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM

PattyJ on January 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Just one little correction or clarification because what you brought up is important), Obama’s life started out as a typical black, with a father abandoning the family, then he was raised in the traditional “white” family, which led to his success.

right2bright on January 19, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Or Canada for that matter.

North America…just chock full o’ racists.

Bishop on January 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM
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Yep. Sadly, 100% correct.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Given the rampant racism across America, the shameful answer is no. No it has not.
Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Yes, it really is a shame that Obama was elected because he was black, and not because of any real qualifications. We have a long time to go before Doctor King’s ‘not the color of their skin but the content of their character’ is fully realized.

wise_man on January 19, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Reading your consistent anger makes me smile. Dilusional, yet miserable. It’s the Liberal Way.

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 11:50 AM

In his book Ralph Abernathy reports that Marty K. beat up his girlfriend in his motel room the morning he was shot. A judge locked up the FBI files on him until c. 2030. He ignored Robert Kennedy’s advice to dissociate himself from known Communists…

So, as national heroes go he’s kind of an embarrassment.

Akzed on January 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM

MLK’s dream is that a person would be judged upon their ideals and convictions. With Obambi receiving so many votes and being treated so differently from other politicians strictly because of his skin color not only would I have to say that MLK’s dream has not been meant, we’ve taken a step backwards.

Zaggs on January 19, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Akzed on January 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I know one of the policemen that were in his motel room after the shooting. There was a bottle of booze on his bed.
MLK did have a lot of faults. My 11th grade Geometry teacher (’74-’75) thought Dr. King was the 2nd coming.

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 11:56 AM

So, as national heroes go he’s kind of an embarrassment.
Akzed on January 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Allow me to say that at the same time, I realize that these facts make him a hero to girls like Drywall, so, to each her own I guess.

Akzed on January 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Yes, it really is a shame that Obama was elected because he was black, and not because of any real qualifications. We have a long time to go before Doctor King’s ‘not the color of their skin but the content of their character’ is fully realized.

wise_man on January 19, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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That’s your opinion.

I believe Obama was elected because people were sick of a Republican being in power and felt the country needed a change. Hillary would have crushed McCain too.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Reading your consistent anger makes me smile. Dilusional, yet miserable. It’s the Liberal Way.

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 11:50 AM
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There’s also sadness in there. Especially when it comes to racism in 2009. But maybe you don’t care about racism.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Given the rampant racism across America, the shameful answer is no. No it has not.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Dave, when do you suppose Canada will have it’s first black prime minister?

DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I know one of the policemen that were in his motel room after the shooting. There was a bottle of booze on his bed.
MLK did have a lot of faults. My 11th grade Geometry teacher (’74-’75) thought Dr. King was the 2nd coming.

kingsjester on January 19, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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Are you one of those people who needs his politicians to be perfect?

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Dave, when do you suppose Canada will have it’s first black prime minister?

DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM
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In answer to your completely irrelevant question, I have no idea.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:10 PM

That’s your opinion. I believe Obama was elected because people were sick of a Republican being in power and felt the country needed a change. Hillary would have crushed McCain too.
Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM

That Hillary could have defeated McCain is – in your words – irrelevant.

They voted for a black man over a white woman that had zero to do with republicans.

wise_man on January 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM

If Obama was elected just because he’s black, why weren’t Sharpton and Jackson elected?

crr6 on January 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM

In answer to your completely irrelevant question, I have no idea.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:10 PM

My question was not irrelevant. Non-American’s come here and spout off about “rampant racism across America”, so I question the situation in their own countries.

DarkCurrent on January 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM

They voted for a black man over a white woman that had zero to do with republicans.

wise_man on January 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM
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In your opinion.

Dave Rywall on January 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Even Rywall admits Obama wasn’t elected for his character.

SO that’s another vote against MLK’s dream.

jeff_from_mpls on January 19, 2009 at 12:22 PM

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