Biden chose irrelevance over foreign policy?

posted at 6:20 pm on January 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Michelle says this makes her smile.  I’m just glad that Joe Biden chose irrelevance rather than bring his partitioning-Iraq schemes to Foggy Bottom.  A man’s got to know his limitations:

During the taping of the Oprah Winfrey show today, Dr. Jill Biden said that her husband, the vice president-elect, was given a choice of being either vice president or secretary of State.

This revelation came after Vice President-elect Joe Biden told Oprah that after then-Sen. Obama offered the job of VP he asked for some time to think about it and talk it over with his family.

Mrs. Biden interjected: “Joe had the choice of being secretary of State or vice president.” She then seemed to realize she’d said something she wasn’t supposed to have said.

Her husband laughed.

Honestly, though, this says a lot about Joe Biden.  He had the opportunity to play a key role in Barack Obama’s Cabinet, in his supposed specialty.  All he had to do was choose that rather than serve in a mostly-meaningless role.  Biden chose to be mostly meaningless.

On the other hand, it does give a different twist to Biden’s admission on the campaign trail that Hillary Clinton would have been the better choice.  Maybe he was talking about both jobs.

Update (AP): If Biden had chosen SoS, who would have been the pick for VP?

Update (Ed): Could he have gotten it wrong twice in a row?  I’d say Hillary would have been the inevitable choice, but it could have been Bill Richardson — and think about where we would have been now.


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If Biden had chosen SoS, who would have been the pick for VP?

someone great, i’m sure.

JiangxiDad on January 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM

If Biden had chosen SoS, who would have been the pick for VP?

Tim Kaine? No way would it have been Hillary. Neither Obama or Michelle Obama would have wanted the competiton from Billary.

Could Biden be so deluded that he thinks he can run for president in 2016? So that’s why he took the VP slot?

Wethal on January 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM

I so love that picture of Biden. It’s like someone asked him, very slowly, “Joe….how many ears do you have?”

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Biden simply wanted the more prestigious position and the possibility of succeeding obama should something happen to His buff holiness. He also knew, being a liberal, he was out of his depth on foreign policy.

keep the change on January 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Maybe he’s betting that Obama won’t make it 4 years.

Oroso on January 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Biden realized that as VP all he’d have to do was occasionally show up at the Senate and go to the odd funeral. As SoS he’d actually have to work.

rbj on January 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Obama promised Joe Biden an appointment as Secretary of State if he were to turn down the Vice-Presidential nomination.

18 U.S.C. &sect 599 sets forth the following election crime:

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

izoneguy on January 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

No doubt, Hillary was the last person Obama desired to be SoS. I believe it was political expediency… What’s the old saying? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer? VP choice, how about Howard Berman D, CA?

monotonousboy on January 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM

He’ll be president before 2012. He knows that.

Ronnie on January 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Maybe he’s betting that Obama won’t make it 4 years.
Oroso on January 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Where he would steal the title of “Most inadvertently funny President” from Gerald Ford.

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Biden chose to be mostly meaningless.

Some habits are hard to break.

Cody1991 on January 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

C’mon, don’t pick on Joe…he hasn’t done anything…

right2bright on January 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

I believe I recall that Biden openly stated that he was clueless on Foreign Policy even though he sat in a leadership position. Biden will ensure that the veep slot devolves back into a token position and nothing more. Unlike Cheney.

Key West Reader on January 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

As SoS he would have been subject to criticism. Joe could never stand to be on the receiving side after spending so many years in the senate as Grand Inquisitor.

Joe will not be an active, participating “Cheney-like” VP. I’m think more along the lines of “Scooby-Doo like” VP.

fogw on January 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM

“As SoS he would have been subject to criticism. Joe could never stand to be on the receiving side after spending so many years in the senate as Grand Inquisitor.

Joe will not be an active, participating “Cheney-like” VP. I’m think more along the lines of “Scooby-Doo like” VP.

fogw on January 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM”

Or… Sponge Joe Laughy Pants.

Sorry, the guy just makes me laugh. A lot.

Key West Reader on January 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

I’ll bet Biden lied to his wife and told her he’d been offered his choice of positions. That’s his modus operandi — make things up to try to impress people, in this case his wife. In this case, he didn’t think she’d blurt it out on national TV. Oops.

rgeaste on January 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Biden’s Senate job has ALWAYS been a cushy job for him … to his delight, he found a cushier one.

What a maroon.

ex-Democrat on January 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM

I’ll bet Biden lied to his wife and told her he’d been offered his choice of positions.

+1 … yeah, I could see plugs doing that.

STAND UP JOE!

ex-Democrat on January 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

If Biden chose SoS, there’s no way they would dare use a phrase like “smart foreign policy.”

jimmy the notable on January 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Biden chose to be mostly meaningless.

I suspect it was thrust upon him at an early age.

drunyan8315 on January 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Obama promised Joe Biden an appointment as Secretary of State if he were to turn down the Vice-Presidential nomination.

18 U.S.C. &sect 599 sets forth the following election crime:

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

izoneguy on January 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

izoneguy you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how this great country works. The Constitution and most subsequent laws do not apply to Democrats. Also, the laws of nature and God do not apply to Democrats. The sooner you understand that the sooner you will be able to accept the love of our new Messiah, the most royal Barack Hussien Obama.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Hillary may have been vp pick and that would have cost him.

johnnyU on January 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

It’s not so much the position that is irrelevant in this case as it is the person occupying it…same goes for our new SoS. I hope our country’s foreign policy can run on auto-pilot…but I doubt it. If it weren’t for the comedy that is going to ensure with this clown as VP, it would be very dark time indeed.

AUINSC on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Biden’s Senate job has ALWAYS been a cushy job for him … to his delight, he found a cushier one.

What a maroonmacaroon.

ex-Democrat on January 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM

I was going to correct your spelling but I didn’t know how to spell the word I think you were thinking of. So I just inserted something else that made sense.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

THe more I we learn about this administration the more I know we are f*cked.

jukin on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Could Biden be so deluded that he thinks he can run for president in 2016? So that’s why he took the VP slot?

Wethal on January 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM

uh, yes…..

Red State State of Mind on January 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Lucky for Joe that he was able to find a wife who appears to be his intellectual equal, eh?

califcon on January 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

It is possible that Senator Biden is a student of the movie ‘Magnum Force’.

In that movie Clint Eastwood’s character Harry Callahan says, “A man’s got to know his limitations.”

A Secretary of State has to remember facts and a whole lot of precisely stated diplo-speak.

And we all know Mr. Biden prefers to make things up as he goes along, like he did in the VP debate with Governor Palin (such as saying the French helped kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon, which never happened). He’s 66 years old, it’s unlikely he wanted the challenge.

alice on January 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

THe more I we learn about this administration the more I know we are f*cked.

jukin on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Cheer up. He could have picked Caroline Kennedy for veep. Joe is far more entertaining than a bored, aging debutante who can’t string three sentences together. :)

Cody1991 on January 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

He just played the odds to be President.
He very well could get the job should something unforeseen happen.

TheSitRep on January 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM

THe more I we learn about this administration the more I know we are f*cked.

jukin on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

You got a problem with fascists ? It is going to be a great four years.

I mailed my mortgage payment coupon book to 1600 Pennsylvania last Friday in hopes it would arrive there by the next due date.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM

A man’s got to know his limitations

Then why would he have run for President in the primaries?

VP puts him a heart-beat from the Presidency.

Disturb the Universe on January 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Ummm, he’s one heavy-smoking, high stress heartbeat away from the Presidency. Yikes.

VolMagic on January 19, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Will he have a personal assistant to wipe the drool off his chin? And yeah, we are so totally fucked that we can’t even imagine how totally fucked we are.

pistolero on January 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Let’s get this straight folks: BIDEN WILLING PARTICIPATED IN THE irrelevance over foreign policy? LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE ON WORLD-WIDE TELEVISION, AND HUNG HIS HEAD AND SHAME, BUT HIS WIFE??? DECIDED IT WAS BE EASIER TO LIVE HIGH OFF THE HOG OF THE PUBLIC TROUGH AND NOT ACTUALLY ASK THE VICE-PE WASTE OF CARBON TO “WORK” FOR ALL THE PUBLIC GOODIES JILLBABY WAAAAAANNNNNTTTTSSSS!!!! So lynching, cheating Joe the Senator will LYNCH ONE ARTICULATE AFRICAN AMERICA AND ATONE BY BEING A USELESS APPENDAGE TO AN EMPTY SUIT AFRICAN / AMERICAN – WHO IS ‘CLEAN’ btw – wink wink!”

This is what happens when men self-emasculate themselves.

Joe “I am not a Plumber but a Plagiarizer” Biden sold his soul long ago so it is fitting for him to go out as the limp #— he became in the 60’s and has only dressed up with plugs and capps since. Once an Alger Hiss Commie Symp
ALWAYS an Alger Hiss Commie Symp!
—-
Whew! I feel much better now. Thanks.

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Lucky for Joe that he was able to find a wife who appears to be his intellectual equal, eh?

califcon on January 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Good stuff here tonight. Maybe the Dr. Mrs. Biden can hook up with Princess Caroline for a little exchange of helpful hints.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

I had a genital wart on my johnson that looked too much like Joe Biden, so I had it removed. That’s right, the whole dick.

pistolero on January 19, 2009 at 6:56 PM

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

LOL. “Maroon” I’m pretty sure was coined by the eloquent actor of large and small screen Bugs Bunny.

It means = moron of unparalled level.

Used in a sentence right after something monumentality stupid occurs and one utters “Wadda maroon”.

Hog Wild on January 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Biden’s is so gaffe-tastic that even his WIFE is making gaffes for him. It’s the gift that keeps on giving. Four years of this and Dan Quayle will look like friggin’ Einstein.

cannonball on January 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM

LOL. “Maroon” I’m pretty sure was coined by the eloquent actor of large and small screen Bugs Bunny.

It means = moron of unparalled level.

Used in a sentence right after something monumentality stupid occurs and one utters “Wadda maroon”.

Hog Wild on January 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM

You are absolutely correct. Some people just don’t understand fine nuance when they see it.

“Chia Pet” Biden is, indeed, a maroon!

califcon on January 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM

imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

izoneguy on January 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

+1

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Ouch, self-emasculating. Brings up visions of Jimmy Carter, Warren Christopher, Jerry Brown, Gov. Richardson, Sen. Granny Graham, and all of the males in the House Donk caucus.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Mrs. Biden interjected: “Joe had the choice of being secretary of State or vice president.” She then seemed to realize she’d said something she wasn’t supposed to have said.
Her husband laughed.

Oh, to be a fly on the window of the limo on the ride home.

tru2tx on January 19, 2009 at 7:06 PM

Seriously, thanks; I needed that! ROFL!

Sponge Joe Laughy Pants.

Sorry, the guy just makes me laugh. A lot.

Key West Reader on January 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Hillary has to super pissed now. She was second choice, behind Plugs. Bet ya Bill has already been on the phone to Obama.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 7:13 PM

O/T – Late to thread….

izoneguy on January 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

izoneguy you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how this great country works. The Constitution and most subsequent laws do not apply to Democrats. Also, the laws of nature and God do not apply to Democrats. The sooner you understand that the sooner you will be able to accept the love of our new Messiah, the most royal Barack Hussien Obama.

JonRoss on January 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Holy Cow Hilarious!

I can just see it:

“Achtung! Accept the Love of the Messiah or u vill be delt with accordingly; by degree of The Most Beneficeint Hussein Obama.”

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Lucky for Joe that he was able to find a wife who appears to be his intellectual equal, eh?

califcon on January 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Every cloud has a silver lining, no?

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Well. he does need to keep up his golf dates with Tom Daschle.

Speakup on January 19, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Obama should have just ran with a sponge. Same thing, and he can toss it when it starts to get worn out and gross. Unlike Biden.

Gatsu on January 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM

He probably chose the VP role because if Obama got assassinated or had to step down for what ever reason it would be Biden’s only hope of ever becoming President.

Dreadnought223 on January 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM

In that movie Clint Eastwood’s character Harry Callahan says, “A man’s got to know his limitations.”
alice on January 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

The sad thing is being a human is beyond Biden’s limitations: see ‘Treatment OF ASSOCIATE JUSTICE DIATRIBE BY ME” earlier posted :)

He is a known liar and the world leaders would think we put Jerry Lewis in as SoS. Instead we have put Rosie O’Donnell’s “soul sister” in as Sos.

dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

Branch Rickey on January 19, 2009 at 7:21 PM

It’s a good thing that The One took away the blackberries and Im’s of his staff so they don’t put information out there they The One doesn’t want. LOL.

Brat4life on January 19, 2009 at 7:24 PM

“As SoS he would have been subject to criticism. Joe could never stand to be on the receiving side after spending so many years in the senate as Grand Inquisitor.

Joe will not be an active, participating “Cheney-like” VP. I’m think more along the lines of “Scooby-Doo like” VP.

fogw on January 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM”

Or… Sponge Joe Laughy Pants.

Sorry, the guy just makes me laugh. A lot.

Key West Reader on January 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Would you people be serious for a moment. The cartoon character the Sneering Jackass has based his life on is obviously “Commander McBragg”.

Dave_d on January 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Poor Joe, he has no idea that in four years he will be reduced to Court Jester status. And he thought he was a major player – Ha!

sherry on January 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Biden chose to be mostly meaningless.

Fortunate for us. Can you imagine the disaster he would be with foreign heads of state? At least we can hide him on American soil for the next (choke) four years…

fiscallyconservative on January 19, 2009 at 7:54 PM

The pool of likely candidates is mighty slim if we are making the call on the basis of ethics or downright noncriminality. As it is, Hillary, Geithner, and Holder are questionable as selected Cabinet members.

onlineanalyst on January 19, 2009 at 8:01 PM

I have read that Harry Reid doesn’t want Biden showing up in the Senate either.

onlineanalyst on January 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I have read that Harry Reid doesn’t want Biden showing up in the Senate either.

onlineanalyst on January 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Imagine if Hillary was veep. Pelosi’s worst nightmare. I would have camped out on the senate steps to watch that show.

Cody1991 on January 19, 2009 at 8:07 PM

I think this shows how shallow Obama’s cabinet picks have been. He’s not using them to foster internal debate but as rewards for loyalty to his campaign. The nominations of Holder and Panetta clearly show that any and all policy will come from the White House. After running a campaign critical of the politicizing of decisions, Obama is clearly showing that all decisions will be made by Obama and his political team and not by the cabinet officials in the field.

JDScott on January 19, 2009 at 8:09 PM

this only strengthens my already high regard for the Fool’s judgement.

what could possibly go wrong with this sophomore genius in charge of the country and our lives?

and doesn’t he look great in a suit.

notagool on January 19, 2009 at 8:13 PM

What a dynamic duo: “Pecs” and “Peckerhead”

onlineanalyst on January 19, 2009 at 8:19 PM

I so love that picture of Biden. It’s like someone asked him, very slowly, “Joe….how many ears do you have?”

Patrick S on January 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

I thought that picture was from Biden’s segment in the current Subway “$5 footlong” ad campaign.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM

In all his career, given the choice of making a dumb choice, or taking a principled stand, Biden has always chosen the former over the latter.

Hopefully (Hopey-ly) the incoming Administrations knee-jerk reaction to a powerful VP will relegate the new VP to the traditional going to foreign funerals and once in a while voting to break a tie in the Senate, nothing more….for the good of the country, for now, this seems to be the best route to take. In years to come, Joe Biden will join the ranks of Alben Barkley, et al., in the Pantheon of most notable Vice Presidents who accomplished nothing and faded from the collective memory as quickly as they were foisted upon us.

coldwarrior on January 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Joe biden is a fool..
But each time these liberal morons open their mouth
CRAP comes out..

So i am not surprised by this..
no just shocked the main stream media didnt edit it out..

but i guess i should have known now
Now that the liberals have both the means and the power
to destroy this nation

they arent even hiding anything..
arrogant fools these idiots are..

and 55 million americans voted for them..

WOW we are a nation full of idiots..

jcila on January 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Biden chose to be mostly meaningless.

I suspect it was thrust upon him at an early age.

drunyan8315 on January 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Now that there is funny! I don’t care who you are.

bagoh20 on January 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Biden chose to be mostly meaningless

No VP has ever been accountable for anything until Dick Cheney and Joey B. will return to that tradition. He turned down SoS because if when something goes wrong they won’t be able to hang it on him. He will return to attending funerals in the POTUS’s stead and generally do nothing for a pension after 4 years and fading into oblivion.

thomasaur on January 19, 2009 at 9:27 PM

He probably was afraid to get a real job.

bloggless on January 19, 2009 at 9:30 PM

LMAO! So true. He’s in a better place now.

BrideOfRove on January 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Hope Obama has no secrets that he wants Joe to keep. Cause if Joe don’t blow it his wife will.

Herb on January 19, 2009 at 10:37 PM

and 55 million americans voted for them..

WOW we are a nation full of idiots..

jcila on January 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Um, make that half full of idiots.

RedbonePro on January 19, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Hillary got the second most powerful and visible job because she has something on Obama he doesn’t want known to the public.

Maybe she has a real copy of his birth certificate and after he gets sworn in as president she will use that to get him to tender his resignation to…her. That’s how the resignation of the presidency works.

I know, conspiracy theory, but she has something on him or he would have left her in the dust.

Jeanette on January 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Pistolero, I’ve never laughed harder while reading a comment on HA. Thanks, I needed that.

I think Biden showed his colossal ignorance in this choice if what his wife claims is true. He’ll never be President unless Obama assumes room temperature. According to Democrat logic (there’s a stretch, I know!) he won’t be running in 2012 when he’ll be 70 because Barack the Most Merciful will be seeking re-election and in 2016 he’ll be 74, which the Obamabots have already declared as crypt keeper status. So, Veep is his last political job unless in 8 years 74 somehow becomes the new 52.

Joe’s biggest problem is is that he isn’t smart enough to know that he isn’t that smart! Thanks to Jim Leyland for that.

rmel80 on January 20, 2009 at 2:11 AM

NBC news reported that the Biden office put out a statement clarifying the situation – he was only offered one job, the Vice-Presidency.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#28739381

It sounds like more truth-stretching and B.S. by Biden.
“Yeah, they offered me VP or SOS and I chose VP…but I could have done both”, says Joe to his wife.
“Oh, Joe, you are my hero!”, says wife.

albill on January 20, 2009 at 7:25 AM

um, Biden may be irrelevant except for one thing. He serves as Obama’s impeachment insurance. And Pelosi is Biden’s insurance.

{^_^}

herself on January 20, 2009 at 7:53 AM

What a dynamic duo: “Pecs” and “Peckerhead”

onlineanalyst on January 19, 2009 at 8:19 PM

ROTFLMAO Awesome!!!

clinker46 on January 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Any discussion of Joe The Doofus leads back to the root question. What sort of Delawarean creatures keep votiing him into office? Is there no other life form higher than pond scum in that State?

GeneSmith on January 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM

And so it came to pass that Joe Biden’s journey into obscurity begins . . . .

EconomicNeocon on January 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM