Tom Hanks: Prop 8 supporters are “un-American”
posted at 1:13 pm on January 16, 2009 by Allahpundit
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The boss wonders when, precisely, it became “progressive” again to level this charge against one’s opponents. Hasn’t it always been? Just in the past few months, we’ve seen Pelosi toss it at TARP naysayers and Jennifer Granholm fling it at critics of the auto bailout. Given Biden’s framing of the economic crisis as an emergency equivalent to war, I expect to hear from Harry Reid any day now that opposing the stimulus is quasi-treason.
“The truth is this [show, "Big Love,"] takes place in Utah, the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” he told Tarts. “There are a lot of people who feel that is un-American, and I am one of them. I do not like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper, any of the 50 states in America, but here’s what happens now. A little bit of light can be shed, and people can see who’s responsible, and that can motivate the next go around of our self correcting Constitution, and hopefully we can move forward instead of backwards. So let’s have faith in not only the American, but Californian, constitutional process.”
Rusty’s pithy rebuttal: “Also un-American by this definition? Americans.” Exit question one: Anything “un-American” about Jerry Brown’s attempt to have a constitutional amendment declared unconstitutional? Exit question two: How far, in his immaculate American-ness, would Hanks be willing to go to make sure “people can see who’s responsible”? This far?
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Wow… just because I have some Sioux blood in me, you throw out racial insults?
You really are pathetic, aren’t you?
malclave on January 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Uh, are these the same people who YELL McCarthyism when ” A little Bit of light can be shed, and people can see who’s responsible” Yes the Hollywood Elite are used to getting it both ways…..hmmm
Dr Evil on January 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Aha. The ultimate moral authority card.
Buy Danish on January 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM
But that’s why I think that gay marriage is a good thing – for the men especially.
It promotes stable monogamous relationahips. But someone living in a smalltown in Middle America doesn’t know about any of this. For instance – I doubt many of them even know about these bug chasers and how the funding is wasteful spending for some of these guys who aren’t following the rules and using condoms; those still spreading their disease.
They are spreading it within their own community – so it’s not like they will be caught.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I don’t think you have to stop Bristol, she’s smart enough to stop herself. That guys no good for her, she knows it.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM
The first thing you people did after the California supreme court overturned prop 12 was ban bride and groom marriages. So I suspect you would want to prevent those two from having a bride and groom marriage, if you could.
Buddahpundit on January 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM
No – I’m not saying he is the moral authority at all. He doesn’t believe gay men are supposed to be married – it’s his opinion. he’s gay and he believes being gay means the anti-marriage across the board.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM
..URP**..anywho…whats the discrimination again??
Itchee Dryback on January 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM
I could understand the attitude a bit more if there was a wide spread desire to physically harm gays or push to have them hide their sexual preference. Barring the occasional crazy (and we all have them)I think the public is pretty accepting. I am not suggesting that gays don’t have problems with acceptance in some cases, probably their own families which makes it more hurtful. We have several gay posters here at HotAir and truth be told I can’t remember who they are once they have said because it seldom has anything to do with topics unless they are giving their perspective of a gay issue.
Cindy Munford on January 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM
She should be prayed for.
baldilocks on January 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM
My collie says:
CyberCipher on January 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Prop 22, I meant.
Buddahpundit on January 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM
You don’t think that this has more to do with their wives and children then being part of a political party? Until they were outed they probably thought they had the best of all worlds.
Cindy Munford on January 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM
ok i don’t really disagree with what you are saying but bug chasers are a fringe group w/n the gay community, not a widespread problem, it’s more of a mental illness issue.
As far as wasteful spending goes, there at least 10,000 times more people who choose to smoke tobacco despite the warnings and people who abuse their bodies by eating bad, not exercising and getting type 2 diabetes then there are those who are actively trying to get AIDS. They are a much bigger issue that deserves our attention.
Noneya on January 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I think you’re right, baldilocks.
I’ve been hyperbolic in trying to get her to recognize the hatefulness of what she writes, but it’s pretty much a lost cause. I dont know if she’ll be able to get past her hate unless she finds God.
malclave on January 16, 2009 at 7:55 PM
who are you? i’ve never even seen you before. are you high?
Noneya on January 16, 2009 at 7:55 PM
uh oh, from what I hear that’s a very powerful lobby…..
Noneya on January 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Well – whether or not it’s a mentally ill fringe group is debateable – especially here and in San Francisco, Miami, LA.
It has become such a serious problem that the GNHC has tried to address it, as has their counterparts in all of the cities I mentioned.
It is a wide spread problem and people will not address it – they are afriad they will be called homo-phobic, which is bullcrap. If AIDS wasn’t a blood born virus and was air born we would be forced to address it.
Bottomline – gay men should not be allowed to practice unsafe sex, period.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Whoops – meant to say GMHC.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
You lefties/libtards are so pathetically and selfrighteously pompous its sad really, imo. The 2 of you are absolutely just out of high school, lib art students in 2nd yr of college or aging hippy liberal douches. Just my opinion.
Your reasoning and logic is so very lame and thin. Its all surface and bare. Or so it seem to me.
When is the air tight “I’m rubber and you’re glue” or the infamous “You got Cooties” argument going to be launched?
Itchee Dryback on January 16, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Oh noes! Tom Hanks called me UnAmerican. I feel a chill wind blowing. The only reason why Hanks and others of his ilk target Mormons because we are an easy target. We don’t riot or burn things down or chop off heads. We don’t send white powder in the mail or assault old ladies. We don’t even organize boycotts. We get involved in the political process and vote. Hanks is a coward.
I guess Nonenya would like to disenfranchise all Mormons since we don’t vote the way she wants us to since we’re just like terrorists. Please, sista. You aren’t winning any hearts and minds here with that attitude.
drflykilla on January 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Ahhh…I’m sorry – did you have a thing for Levi?
He’s a high school dropout, she will do better, she’s a good looking girl.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
yes, straight ticket Republican
I was attending to my own economic recovery by closing a deal.
thank you for your inquiry.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Oh btw thanks for the complement, I wish I was just out of high school or college, but you are way off on that one…LOL.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Who doesn’t have a thing for Levi? he’s sex on skates!
Noneya on January 16, 2009 at 8:09 PM
You’re proving my point.
Itchee Dryback on January 16, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Very true. Moreover, bringing up Bristol Palin in a discussion about Bug Chasers is disgusting. Apparently poor Noneya is incapable of comprehending the difference between a heterosexual pregnancy (albeit occurring before marriage) and a bunch of sexual deviants who are not only not bringing a new life into the world, they are on a perverse mission seeking to become infected with a deadly disease and presumably to infect as many other people as possible.
I was just having some fun with the stereotype of the gay hairdresser.
Buy Danish on January 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Then that is very very sad.
Itchee Dryback on January 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM
My favorite part of all this is that Tom Hanks derides polygamy rights yet defends “gay marriage rights.” That’s hypocrisy from any angle.
Dr B on January 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Really Tom? I’ll buy your complaint when you name Muslims as un American. If they go to a mosque–there are a few in Hollywood–they voted probably 100% for prop 8, so where is your yapping about them. My guess is, you value your neck and you know Mormons, warts and all, won’t come looking for your head.
You are a typical Hollywood coward pissing on folks you know won’t hurt you.
patrick neid on January 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Fort Deitrich, MD? One of them.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Fort Dietrich – that’s where all the biological warfare stuff is done. Not that we do those.
I do know from when I did my reserves there that they had a pretty poor beer selection at their Class 6.
NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Noneya, are all lesbians humorless, unimaginative frumps like you?
If so, then why are you called “gay”?
I’ve encountered merrier people in funeral parlors.
If you think marriage is going to give you a sense of humor, you’re wrong, but it is helpful to have one.
NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Tom Hanks,says Un American,
really,
me thinks, Tom doesn’t have ‘The Right Stuff’!!!!!!
canopfor on January 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Muslims are liberal mascots.
They’re like the cute, furry creatures that bounce around during football games.
Doesn’t matter what they do. They could burn a cross on Obama’s lawn and boil the cute little puppy and it would just be a misunderstanding.
Because we white, straight, jeebus loving males are the real enemy.
We’re beezlebub, Satan, King Kong, Godzilla, cancer and asteroids all rolled into one big leviathan.
Brave souls live Noneya take us on to prove their mettle.
Atticus Finch says “bravo” Noneya.
NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Speak for yourself. You are just another nasty anonymous commenter along life’s road….
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Once I talked to the inmates of an insane asylum called Hollywood. I have talked to idiots a thousand times, but only once to the insane.
- Mark Twain
Murphy9 on January 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I could say alot of this and alot of that But let me just say Tom you are a fool.
thmcbb on January 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM
A quick scan of the Prop 8 donor outing page shows a lot of, uh, “ethnic” donors in South Central Los Angeles and Inglewood. Lots of immigrants donated less than $100 to preserve what they understand to be sacred and inviolate. Let’s see the Pink Mafia run up on them. Rove, you magnificent bastard!
Kid from Brooklyn on January 16, 2009 at 8:59 PM
In Tom Hank’s world everything is Hollywood circle jerk induced delusion. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?
Cheshire Cat on January 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM
So Hanks is another one of the friends of Ernst Rohm. Not too surprising.
sloopy on January 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM
C’mon, what do you want – a Men’s Lib group? Knock it off.
Man – if I were a man – I could rule this world.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM
It should be obvious that I was speaking for myself..I mean, come on.
Who do you speak for..or imagine you speak for? Again, you’re proving my point.
Itchee Dryback on January 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Live, here’s to life, let us all be gay
Let go of each inhibition
No one need give you permission
What are you waiting for?
You have one life, let it be gay
Don’t put it off till you’re dying
Now is the time to be flying
And your heart will say vivez!
PercyB on January 16, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Fixed it for ya!
newton on January 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM
The anti-Prop 8 activists (and a far larger liberal contingent) are not campaigning for equality under the law, which already exists. They are advocating that laws and society in general be changed and rearranged so that “equality” (non-discrimination of any kind) justifies any behaviour no matter what it is.
aengus on January 16, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I think Obama vs. McCain had far more to do with the margins than any die off of us “old bigots”.
unclesmrgol on January 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM
How can you say “we have a culture” and advocate defending it while you simultaneously defining America’s culture solely in terms of political principles?
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion and and limited government are not “strictly” American ideas. They existed before America did. I would be the first to say that America is the greatest embodiment of these political ideas in a kind of inspired synthesis.
But does America have an actual culture aside from its political culture? Yes, it does. To promote American culture as only a series of textual (political) propositions is akin to saying that America has no real culture.
Can you imagine any of the Founders describing America’s culture in purely political terms? George Washington famously called himself “a citizen of the world” (that’s where that phrase comes from) so I’m guessing he was not insecure in this regard.
aengus on January 16, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Forrest Gump needs Lt. Dan to knock some sense into him fast.
(in souhtern girl accent)” Wrong Forrest, Wrong!”
John The Baptist on January 17, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Well said-Bravo
John The Baptist on January 17, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Are you comparing being gay to being black? It must have been rough when you were living under Jim Crow, while you were being whipped on that plantation.
Johan Klaus on January 17, 2009 at 12:30 AM
If I remember correctly, I think that she is still in high school.
Johan Klaus on January 17, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Hey, Tom Hanks – Private Ryan says he’s not going to earn it, he’s just going to waste his whole life on hookers and blow!
Jim62sch on January 17, 2009 at 2:49 AM
And the anti Prop 8 people are also “un American” because they don’t honor the Constitution.
Cr4sh Dummy on January 17, 2009 at 3:44 AM
I would be very, very careful. Mormons usually have guns, BIG ONES TOO!
Mercy4Me on January 17, 2009 at 6:56 AM
Noneya’s wrong about all the pro-traditional marriage proponents dying off too. Who procreates more? White liberals with their 1 or 2 children or Christian conservatives, Latinos, and other socially conservative minorities?
drflykilla on January 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM
I stated this before on this thread.
Massacusetts allows gay marriage. All other states specifically forbid it except for New York, which recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere, and Rhode Island, where state law is silent on the subject.
Homosexuals constitute at most 5%, according to experts, of the population of America.
Recent surveys conducted show that 90 % of Americans believe in God.
These figures are easily found on the Internet.
I don’t understand where that base of “cultural superiority” that noneya, April and the rest of Elitists speak from manifests itself.
The Founding Fathers of our country believed in God. They said that we are “Endowed by Our Creator” with cetain “inalienable rights”…”life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”…NOT Abortion, Political Correctness, and Condescending Elitism. I have had it up to here with know-it-all Atheists and Elitists who don’t have sense enough to realize how alone and bitter they sound. This miniscule minority are trying to bully their mantra of “an enlightened society” into law over the will of the majority of the American people.
The Romans thought that they were an enilightened society, too. Maybe all these Elitists in Government, Hollywood, and the rest of America are our equivalent of Caligula’s horse…or maybe they’re just the back end.
kingsjester on January 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Tom Hanks got some kind of award for the “Movie” Philadelphia this makes him obligated to make some kind of strong statement condemning anyone who doesn’t agree with his “Demographics” position on Prop 8. It is Hollywood, and no one does anything for nothing. This was actually a safe statement to make for Hanks, not brave he is pandering. The Conservatives in California they are the ones sticking their necks out. Tom Hanks doesn’t have any problem indulging people’s “Beliefs” that America is some kind of Social Experiment “Utopia” and not a Republic. A Republic Majority Rule – Minority Protection. What is the size of the Gay population 5% – in America, not Iran we know there are no Gays in Iran;) Why isn’t the GLBT doing something about Iran, and putting it on track to Shangri la?
Dr Evil on January 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Younger voters are less likely to oppose gay marriage than older voters. Also, among all age groups opposition has declined during the past decade.
When the question becomes government recognition of civil unions for gay couples, with all the rights of marriage, a majority probably support it now.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I think Connecticut also legalized it at the end of 2008.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM
What Mr Hanks is really saying is that it’s un-American to disagree with him since there is nothing more American than people voting on the laws by which they live. What’s un-American to him is that his vote only counts the same as any ordinary citizen.
What’s un-American, is un-elected, un-accountable people in black robes making those decisions.
TheBigOldDog on January 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM
As far as wasteful spending goes, there at least 10,000 times more people who choose to smoke tobacco despite the warnings and people who abuse their bodies by eating bad, not exercising and getting type 2 diabetes then there are those who are actively trying to get AIDS. They are a much bigger issue that deserves our attention.
You folks are interesting that you keep doing things that distract as if to say” this is a little moral problem, go find bigger ones”.
Well what are you going to do about those people that don’t exercise etc. I just want to know that you all expect to do about it. You see it is easy to continue to affirm that MARRIAGE is between a man and a woman. You can figure out what gays have. It won’t be marriage, even when you force it.
Noelie on January 17, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Not only unamerican, but inhumane. wanting to dissolve the marriages of tens of thousands of happy, monogamous gay couples is cruelty at it’s worst.
So you are saying their lives are worthlesss unless what they are is called marriage. It can’t be, because it isn’t. They can decide something it is, but it can’t ever but it can’t ever be marriage.. not even when you try to force it through that Keyhole. At what point do you get that through your little brain?
Noelie on January 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
I’m so disappointing in Tom Hanks. I love all of his movies and always looked at him somehow as the voice of reason. I can deep 6 that thought.
Calling people who vote their conscience Un-American is Un-American. Just because a bigger block of people don’t cower and vote with the smaller fringe block of people, that IS American and Tom should take a lesson from me this time.
I’m disappointed Tom.
Geronimo on January 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM
When the inmates run the asylum, normally lucid people like Tom Hanks are inspired by and become Rosie O’Donnels.
notagool on January 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Straight marriage is between one specific man and one specific woman. Each person doesn’t marry a gender, but marries an individual–and by so doing foreswears all others.
Each marriage is different and not determined simply by the spouse’s gender–certainly one’s marriage would be different if you had married, instead of your wife, the girl who sat next to her in history class.
“The definition of marriage” is pieced together by each couple and it evolves as they live their lives together. For many it is for raising children, though some marriages are without children. For some it is based on shared interests, but for others it is more about mutual support during the pursuit of very different interests.
There are approximately 3 billion people of the opposite sex on the planet. You might define your marriage to one of those people by attributes such as fidelity, commitment, support, and devotion. Those aspects of the marriage definition work for either gay or straight couples.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
So you admit that it is irresponsible to have sex outside of marriage? You think that it is wrong?
Well, at least you are different from most liberals.
BTW, your gays can get married, like Bristol, any woman can marry a man…and we are not stopping any woman from marrying a man.
Looks like we agree on two things…sex without marriage is irresponsible, and woman should marry men, if they marry.
right2bright on January 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Thanks to everyone well almost everyone for an interesting thread. I read it all, maybe I need to get a life. Anyway, a friend sent these definitions of Moderate and Extremist Republicans. Thought I would share them here.
Moderate Republicans
Like all good progressives, Moderate Republicans accept the historical inevitability of socialist victory over capitalism, only they prefer the change to come in small, orderly steps, hoping to retain access to the public trough when the world plunges into the normalcy of collectivism. In other words, Moderate Republicans reject the dogma of “the fierce urgency of now” – a mild heresy inside the broader progressive movement; nothing we can’t eradicate once our power is absolute.
Extreme Republicans
Bitter extremists who reject the notion that the future belongs to socialist governments that will redistribute wealth to the unwashed, sacrificing the successful on the altar of the Common Good. Despite all the evidence provided by progressive journalism, academia, and Hollywood, these scoundrels cling to an old-fashioned belief that individual liberties and capitalism are somehow the only way to grow wealth, increase productivity, and eliminate hunger, diseases, and wars. They must be discredited and discarded.
kooziegirl on January 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
So what about Sarah Palin and Nancy Reagan – you believe they were irresponsible??
AprilOrit on January 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I wouldn’t go there – if I were you.
There are plenty examples on both sides of the aisles of women who had sex without marriage, really.
AprilOrit on January 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Noneya, somehow, usually makes a Palin thread about gays and a gay thread about Palin. I think there is a pattern.
Cindy Munford on January 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
As for Hanks, he’s just protecting his own turf. The guy flip-flops around like a tuna on public issues, but he’s surrounded by queers so he won’t be able to go to a decent restaurant if he fails to come out with something really stupid to say on the subject.
He’s not very bright, and the undeniable fact that he does a great job of pretending to be likable in movies has thrust him into water that’s waaaaayyyyy over his head.
Jaibones on January 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM
It gets me how un-American these Hollywood types are. Hell they are anti-World. They continue their jetting around the world and massive consumption of resources only leading to AGW and Climate Change.
Jamson64 on January 17, 2009 at 1:30 PM
The irony couldn’t get any thicker. Hanks produces a show about polygamy but then tells us that the Mormons (in Utah) are to blame for Prop 8 passing in California…I’m not even a church-going Christian and i voted fro Prop 8. I did vote for gay marriage back in say 2000, before I saw heard and read about what the Gay Mafia was doing in the California public schools, (normalization and indoctrination of the ‘gay lifestyle). I got informed and realized that there are no rights under the constitution that homosexuals are not afforded.
Is Hanks promoting polygamy too? That would be the natural evolution and another reason I do not support gay ‘marriage’, which is an oxymormon. PUN!
When I receieved, not one, but two messages from Bill Clinton on election day saying that when we stop ‘two people from loving each other, that’s wrong’, I left him a message reminding him that he had a lot of nerve telling us what marriage is and what we can do within that institution. Besides, it’s the power that the Pink Hand is amassing that is disturbing. They have way too much power: the minority now rules and that is about as wrong as you can get!
I am one of those people who has had gay and ‘lesbian’ friends and only one wanted to marry her partner. Well, it didn’t happen and they broke up for other reasons years later. (My theory is that one of them went back to men; her lifestyle choice, (after promiscuity led to a miscarriage), unraveled).
I got into a huge argument with my step mom last July about all this and I was deemed “intolerant” because I live in California(!) and I get my info (”BS”) from: Fox News–she wishes!
Christine on January 17, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I meant to say that Civil Unions afford homosexual couples the same rights as married, hetero couples.
This really boils down to a primal need to be accepted by others, (society as a whole) and that will not occur, especially when they act out and marginalize their cause.
Perhaps this is the biggest difference between conserves and libs/progressives. We know that we need to change ourselves, our thoughts and attitudes, while they think they can and must change the way the world thinks and operates. It is tragic.
Christine on January 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM
And that pretty much wipes out the “discrimination” argument, though no one actually stated what the discrimination was, even though it was asked for several times.
I have no problem with civil unions…why do you suppose gays do?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
The tax differences can be very substantial between the two types of unions.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
who’s definition is this?
I’ll take Extreme Republicans please.
sounds like it was written by wm ayers
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM
..or civil union.
Whats the problem with civil unions. Not good enough?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
It does not contain the word “marriage”. They not only want the same legal rights as a heterosexual marriage, they want the co-habitation of 2 homosexuals to be viewed with the same kind of cultural and societal acceptance as a heterosexual marriage. Civil Unions would only provide them legal rights.
kingsjester on January 17, 2009 at 3:45 PM
who’s definition is this?
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I thought thats all they wanted..after all the other stuff that came first, that was “all they wanted”.
Go figger.
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Maybe let the state government hand out civil union certificates and let churches decide on what defines a marriage.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Jaibones, that last post makes you a jackass. At least be just a little be informed about Hanks, his background and what he’s about prior to making broad pronouncements regarding the guy. I think he’s wrong on gay marriage and his recent statements on the topic were ill-advised, but you’re way off on the rest of your take. Additionally, you show your ignorance and bigotry with your use of the word “queer”. Like I said, you’re a jackass and an ignorant one at that.
dakine on January 17, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Believe me – in the end it has nothing to do with Christians – it’s all about the money.
Nothing excites these Far Righties – more than the money baby. That’s what gets them off.
AprilOrit on January 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Why bother with all that? Just to pat and “there, there now..be calm” the gays?
Does that really make sense to you?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 4:34 PM
What about the people who are against GM that are not Christians?
I think your narrow minded bigotry is showing.
And care to flesh out the ‘its all about money’ conspiracy theory?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Minimally, civil unions should provide equality from a tax code standpoint. If the government were to enact that policy then the upcoming court challenges would have less strength.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 4:39 PM
The people of Follywood are the most disfunctional group of people on the planet and they love spewing their wisdom about being the most elite and informed and the rest of us are un-enlightened fools. Besides when you make that kind of money you must be right… I boycot all the idiots like the Tom’s… Maybe if they keep talking everyone else will stop watching their movies and they won’t have all that money and won’t think they are so enlightened any more…
vulcannomad on January 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM
That was my point – it’s about the money.
AprilOrit on January 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM
—so now its all about taxes? Is that the main thing to you? If taxes can be worked out, end of dispute?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM
How so?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM
and what about that?
You seem to really have singled out one group of people for your hate fest.
Why do you suppose that is?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM
Making all of the legal and tax issues the same would reduce the strength of future court appeals. Perhaps, result in a new equilibrium.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 5:30 PM
That “makes sense”…but its never been about making sense has it?
From starting out hiding and being beaten up in the past from extreme bigots, to being the ones who attack, intimidate and desecrate..from extreme bigots, when has it ever been enough?
You actually think taxes has something to do with the hate? I have to ask because, I’ve never heard that one being chanted by the angry throngs, or read on a mass produced sign. Is this new?
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Don’t know if anyone has chanted it, but it seems like something that the legislative bodies could do in order to keep the courts from stepping in.
dedalus on January 17, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Probably wouldn’t hurt.
Do you actually think it would help the ‘boots on the ground gay agitators’ to be more rational? I don’t know, but I’ll guess not so much.
Itchee Dryback on January 17, 2009 at 6:16 PM
From California Family Code SECTION 297-297.5 (domestic Partnerships):
This would seem to require the state of California to tax domestic partners at the same rate as married couples. How are the legal and tax issues not the same?
Bobbertsan on January 17, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Are the children of gay marriage entitled to SS payments upon the death of the parent that is not their bloood parent??
AprilOrit on January 17, 2009 at 6:44 PM
That has nothing to do with Proposition 8. It would require
recognition of same sex relationships on the Federal level.
Bobbertsan on January 17, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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