Speaking of swoons …

posted at 11:16 am on January 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Washington Post buries the lede in their front-page report on their editorial conference with Barack Obama.  They lead with the news that Obama wants to tackle entitlement reform, certainly an encouraging note, although made all but meaningless in the trillions pouring out of Washington at the moment to bail out politically-connected private enterprises.  Not until the fourth paragraph does this amazing backpedal jump out at the reader — and at Ed Whelan, who noted it at The Corner (emphasis mine):

In a wide-ranging 70-minute interview with Washington Post reporters and editors, the president-elect pledged quick action on the Middle East once he takes office, promised to support voting rights for D.C. residents, and said he will consider it a failure if he has not closed the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by the end of his first term in office.

What? During the campaign, Obama often demanded the immediate closure of Gitmo and promised just that repeatedly.  It didn’t make much of a splash during the general election, as John McCain made the same pledge.  In fact, his transition team suggested that Obama would issue an executive order in the first days of his administration to get the ball rolling on that task.

And now?  Now Obama has decided to set the expectation that it might take as long as four years to figure out how to fulfill his campaign promise.  This stunning nugget that dropped into the Post’s lap was recognized as so newsworthy that the Post failed to even ask about the four-year shift in the timeline even once.  Gitmo only gets one more mention in the 34-paragraph story — in paragraph 28.  And in that paragraph, the Post tells readers that Obama is “confident” that he can make his new self-imposed deadline of whenever.

This tends to prove the notion that the throbbingly warm reception Obama received this week in the Post’s office was no fluke.  If Bush promised to close Gitmo immediately and then shared the idea that “immediately” means sometime in the next four years, would the Post have buried that?  Had John McCain won the election and pushed Gitmo’s closure to 2013, the Post would have headlined that and had 34 paragraphs about how McCain misled voters and betrayed his anti-torture principles.

But for Obama?  We get to hear about his “confidence.”  I’d call this a “confidence” game, all right.

By the way, for Gitmo haters, a question: Don’t you think that McCain would have found a way to close Gitmo a lot sooner than in 2013?


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NoFanofLibs on January 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

The guy is facing reality. We do have to give him credit for change.

unclesmrgol on January 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Lol. This is delicious.

I kind of feel like we won the electiion.

BadgerHawk on January 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM

The check’s in the mail. Promise.

the_nile on January 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM

hmm..his first term in office? He best not count his chickens before they are hatched. Dick Morris predicts he will have a low approval rating because he will not be able to fix the economy as fast as the libs want it fixed.

I will only pray that Dick is right. Two terms of him and I will go batty.

becki51758 on January 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM

by the end of his first term in office.

Finally Obama is talking optimistically, was waiting for this his whole campaign.

Tommy_G on January 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Or the second.

Maybe the third.

Definitely by the fourth.

“By the year 2050, I will close, um, uh, GITMO”.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Amazing what a little clarity on the intelligence does to someone.

He’s a dangerous moron.

Conservative_SAHM on January 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I kind of feel like we won the electiion.

BadgerHawk on January 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Heh. I kind of feel like that too, sometimes. For instance, I quite often find myself thanking Providence that I won’t have to defend McCain for the next four years.

However, then the brute reality of pending Supreme Court retirements presents itself to my attention and I am once again depressed.

Missy on January 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

The Messiah Of Change
(changing his mind)

Secret Service nickname: Squishy

rockbend on January 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I kind of feel like we won the electiion.

BadgerHawk on January 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Don’t kid yourself. Osama Obama and his gang of fools and crooks will do plenty of damage before they are voted out, either by an angry populace or an angry Congress.

Obama lies as easily as most people breathe. I suspect his true agenda has yet to be fully revealed.

MrScribbler on January 16, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Herein lies a serious problem. The right is losing the media war. Obama and his leftist, mainstream media propaganda machines control the information flow to the populous and are essentially programming them to comply with Obama’s Marxist agendas. Until the right can find an effective channel to transmit a powerful counter information campaign this condition will persist. The bottom line is that if you tell the people something long enough and with great persistence, they will believe it and act accordingly. Let’s face it folks, two irreconcilable, competing ideologies are in a war to win the hearts and minds of the American people and so far the left controls the battlefield.

rplat on January 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Has BHO ever toured Gitmo? Anyone know? Just curious.

Maybe he’s crashing into reality. After all, nobody is stepping up to take these hard core jihadists. They don’t want ’em in Kansas, San Fransisco, or anywhere else.

A symbolic empty promise.

paustin110 on January 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Some of the released Gitmo detainees would be headed for Canada, where they came from. You know Canada, that country with a long mostly unsupervised border with us…. Might as well just drop ’em off in New York City.

RBMN on January 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Or the second.

Maybe the third.

Definitely by the fourth.

“By the year 2050, I will close, um, uh, GITMO”.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Why do you think there’s a defined length of the concept “Term” with the new Change administration.
It will be one term until all human problems are solved…

the_nile on January 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

The guy is facing reality. We do have to give him credit for change.

unclesmrgol on January 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

By this statement Unc, does this mean Obama’s campaign was a complete illusion?

And will the Kos-kids ever recover from the erroneous perception they had of their Savior?

Rovin on January 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Why do you think there’s a defined length of the concept “Term” with the new Change administration.
It will be one term until all human problems are solved…

That should take no longer than six days and on the seventh day, Great Leader will relax with a cigarette.

And it will be good. So it is written.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I told you it was a hard spot that they have for Obama

drjohn on January 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Hey since nobody is living in Rezko’s Obama’s Chicago home, his buddies from Hotel Gitmo can lodge there. I’m sure Ayer’s, Farrakan, J. Wright won’t mind. Heck, those anti USA haters, terrorist will fit right into that neighborHOOD.

Mercy4Me on January 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Practicality raises it’s ugly head. Don’t worry, soon he will be as competent on the job as Bush was.

[email protected] on January 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM

As i’ve said before, every word that comes out of the Fool’s mouth is a lie.

So we should give no more weight to this new lie than the old lie. Since he said them both, neither is true.

notagool on January 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Amazing what a little clarity on the intelligence does to someone.

He’s a dangerous moron.

Conservative_SAHM on January 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Correct and correct.

The campaign was “just words”. Now he’s getting a taste of reality.

tru2tx on January 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Secret Service nickname: Squishy
rockbend on January 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Heh, I thought it was “windsock.”

But anyhoo, Obarfa can’t close Gitmo, they need a place to imprison all the energy execs, big business CEO’s and those who refuse to buy the required national health coverage.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Hey Ed and Allah,
The time is come for someone to create the Obama campaign promises bingo board – for each promise that’s broken you get to X off that item on your board. Perhaps the winner could receive a small plastic unicorn as a prize!

gwelf on January 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

By the way, for Gitmo haters, a question: Don’t you think that McCain would have found a way to close Gitmo a lot sooner than in 2013?

I am not a Gitmo hater by any stretch of the imagination, but just posing that question speaks volumes about the choices we had this year.

At this point I am just along for the ride, unfortunately I feel like I am on the Scrambler and the safety bar is failing.

Just A Grunt on January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

That EO Obama promised to issue got a huge amount of attention.

This will get zip.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

drjohn on January 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM

This how i think we close Gitmo. We do a nation wide poll of who thinks we should close Gitmo, and who thinks the terrorists there are having there civil liberties taken away. We find the area of the highest approval for this poll, and we take the prisoners and dump them off in there neighborhood. My guess would be SF.

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Perhaps the winner could receive a small plastic unicorn as a prize!
gwelf on January 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

No no no, this is what the winner will receive:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Obama-unicorn-nude-wall-street-bear-inauguration-art_W0QQitemZ260346190519QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Paintings?hash=item260346190519&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A120566%3A265%3A1239%3A1240%3A1318

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Dude, Thanks for the warning, i just lost my breakfast.

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Ewwww…. now I have wash my eyes with Clorox.

tru2tx on January 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

At this point I am just along for the ride, unfortunately I feel like I am on the Scrambler and the safety bar is failing.
Just A Grunt on January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Bwaaaaaaahahaha!

And as you desperately scan the crowd for help, you see the toothless carney who assembled the ride juggling a box of leftover parts; oddly enough the carney resembles Obarfa.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Hussein’s campaign slogan should have been Change You Can Believe In. Eventually. Or Maybe Not. But Maybe So. Sometime. I’ll Get Back To You.

madmonkphotog on January 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

You’re welcome. :-)

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Gitmo won’t be closed. May be scaled back a bit. But, closed? Not. (Unless there are vast changes in US law and a few others as well.)

If you look at US immigration law, and the Constitutional guarantees afforded immigrants, if ANY of the Gitmo detainees reach US soil, they are considered landed immigrants, and are/will be afforded all “rights” of legal immigrants and citizens. Talk about your proverbial can of worms.

Non-US military persons residing at Gitmo are covered, by treaty, under Cuban law. Old treaty, to be sure, but still in force. Castro has refused to “recognize” US control over Gitmo, and has refused, for example, to cash ANY of the rent checks we continue to send annually to the Cuban government under terms of the applicable treaties between Cuba and the US regarding Gitmo. Thus, in order to place the “civilian” detainees (since they are not uniformed members of any national armed force) under Cuban law, perhaps having the Cuban courts in Santiago (the court holding “jurisdiction” over civilians at Gitmo, declare them innocent and demanding they be released, the Castro government will first have to recognize US control over Gitmo and recognize the provisions of the treaties set in place prior to the Castro Revolution, under Batista and his predecessors.

It’ll take a sea change in Havana for that to happen. Not going to happen in the foreseeable future.

This is why Gitmo was chosen for Camp Delta and the internment of combatants from Afghanistan, a few from Iraq (prior to the current government in Iraq coming into force) and a number of AQ members from other places across the globe. They can’t be presently adjudicated under the UCMJ< which covers US military personnel at Gitmo, and they cannot (yet) be tried in federal courts…since they do not hold “US person” status. In some cases, foreigners committing “criems” outside the US can be tried and detained/jailed, such as the case of Noriega when he was removed from Panama and tried under broad counter-narcotics laws in federal court.

The question “what do we do with them?” becomes more sharp when you look at the other options for their internment/detention…there are none. Or at least none that prevent wholesale gutting of Geneva and placing ALL US military personnel at risk of being arrested, confined and tried and sentenced under local laws in every other country in the world for no other reason than they (US military personnel) are members of the US military and thus are war criminals (depending on the whims of the nation deciding to lock them up) should we proceed and bring the detainees to the US for adjudication under federal laws for being part of an armed group who attacked US military (or allied) personnel overseas.

If they committed their acts within the boundaries of the US (and territories) then federal court is a proper venue. But, trying persons for crimes outside the perview of the US judicial system, abroad, opens up yet another can of worms.

Obama is slowly (apparently) finally seeing that “Close Gitmo Now!” was nothing more than a vacant campaign slogan when it meets the realities of the real world.

Even detainees deemed qworthy of repatriation to their own countries are facing a limbo. China will NOT accept any Uighurs, for example. Other nations have balked as well. A few others have made it clear that the minute some detainees step off the plane they will be executed. Such is law in other countries. We, not as a matter of law, necessarily, refuse to send detainees to certain death in order to get them out of Gitmo. Thus, where to put them, even after they are deemed “safe” for repatriation?

Obama’s lack of experience…and his penchant for for making it up as he goes along…will not aid him in finding a solution to Gitmo. It’ll take a lot longer than 100 days…that is certain. Obama knows this. The Left (and a lot of others) does not.

coldwarrior on January 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Time to stop asking the questions of Obama, who is nothing more than a very accomplished-at-lying politician. Who should have expected anything different.

The time is now to ask the question of the people who voted for him and those who spin his every change in direction. Ask them if this is really acceptable to them, and keep asking.

Where is Shipley when there are questions to be answered?

Yoop on January 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Obama has taken his measure of the IQ level of his supporters and knows he can tap dance his way through the first 4 years. Better to wait and close Gitmo right before the re-election frenzy starts,..it’ll be a great talking point and will demonstrate he makes good on his promises. That’s all he needs to do. The media won’t hassle him, we’ll soon have another 9/11 event to use as diversion, and the economy is always good for crisis management. He’s cool with all that.
His immediate concerns are what to do with Rahm and making sure Fitzgerald is kept under control. Shouldn’t be difficult.

a capella on January 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Why come the unicorn gotta be white?

Why come Hussein is attacking a brown bear?

That eeeekbay auction is RAAAAAAAAAAACIST!

madmonkphotog on January 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

hmm..his first term in office? He best not count his chickens before they are hatched. Dick Morris predicts he will have a low approval rating because he will not be able to fix the economy as fast as the libs want it fixed.

becki51758 on January 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Since when do approval ratings matter? Remember, we’re talking about Obama here. This guy has ACORN on his side. Anyone who runs against The One(tm) will be outvoted and defeated, no matter what.

Doesn’t matter if there are 500,000 eligible voters in a district, he’ll get 501,000 votes.

UltimateBob on January 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM

What is even more disturbing than the picture, is there were actually people who actually bid 500 for it. You couldn’t pay me to take that.

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

More testimony to liberal stupidity:

A week from today, newly inaugurated President Barack Obama will probably order the closure of the military prison in Guantanamo Bay. A prime symbol of this country’s overboard tactics in fighting terrorism will be doomed.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/ED5U159B83.DTL

drjohn on January 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM

What is even more disturbing than the picture, is there were actually people who actually bid 500 for it. You couldn’t pay me to take that.
MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I got outbid at $450, I just don’t have that much ching left after buying thirty of these:

http://www.obamaplate.com/

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Lmao……Dude you crack me up.

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Where is Shipley when there are questions to be answered?
Yoop on January 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Busy bidding on some artwork over at Ebay.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM

drjohn on January 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM —

Going “overboard” in fighting terrorism? Those SF nutcases have no grip on reality, that’s for sure. The terrorists have no qualms about going overboard in waging a war of Islamofacsist terror against the world…they set the parameters…we are merely trying to meet them on our chosen battlefield and engage them while not lowering ourselves to their standards of conduct.

Perhaps, we should “lower” our standards…and give them a taste of what they have wrought?

coldwarrior on January 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

UltimateBob on January 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

oh right…I forgot approval ratings only matter when its a Republican. *smacks my forehead*

becki51758 on January 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

The guy is facing reality. We do have to give him credit for change.

unclesmrgol on January 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

No we don’t. He isn’t facing reality, he’s just beginning to understand that leading is a whole lot harder than making promises to the Bush-hating morons that put the filthy bastard into office.

I’ll only give him credit when he actually does something.

highhopes on January 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Agreed, I could better than that with a roller.

Cindy Munford on January 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I like like the number two better. They should put a picture of it on a bus in the U.K.. Even got a little misty, capitalism at it’s finest.

Cindy Munford on January 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

That sculpture isnt even him , that looks like a younger Bill Cosby.

MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

That sculpture isnt even him , that looks like a younger Bill Cosby.
MDWNJ on January 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Shows what you know, effin racist.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Where’s the pancake????

right wing chicky on January 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

This is the tell-tale admission that guarantees his second (and if they overturn the 22nd Amendment, his 3rd), term. The media will wait patiently because ‘no one does it better’, than Barry Whosane. (Let’s face it he will do everything better, much better.)
The love affair is just starting so I’m sending for a crate of buckets to last at least 8 years. Maybe I will have to join the ranks of the ignorant, but blissful, world citizens who inhabit North America.

Christine on January 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

News flash: HRC told him to cool it with the miracles already.

Christine on January 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Maybe I will have to join the ranks of the ignorant, but blissful, world citizens who inhabit North America.

Better yet, prepare yourself to join the resistance.

There is a lack of concerted effort to deny the DFL seemingly anything, and this lack will see our society irrevocably altered for the worse soon enough. Forget what our children will be dealing with, this is going to be our fight too.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Now Obama has decided to set the expectation that it might take as long as four years to figure out how to fulfill his campaign promise

This isn’t a promise, it’s a threat. If Obama loses in 2012, he’ll issue and end-of-term Executive Order that the next president will have to deal with.

And if Obama wins in 2012, then nothing he says today is going to matter.

logis on January 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

The campaign was “just words”. Now he’s getting a taste of reality

I said it before, he’s the “I’m not really the President, I just play one on TV” POTUS. When he faces something that’s not “fun” (like, anything besides campaigning and having his follows swoon over him), he backpedals and “um-uh-um”s.

crazy_legs on January 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

crazy_legs on January 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Wait until, God forbid, he might need to deal with a terrorist attack.

All bets are off on what Obarfa would do.

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM

by the end of his first and last term in office.

Hening on January 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Wait until, God forbid, he might need to deal with a terrorist attack

I’m pretty well convinced that if that happens he and the rest of the Left will do everything that they accused Bush of doing.

crazy_legs on January 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Not the first year, but first term…like I posted earlier on another thread…Obama is just mopping up what President Bush had started…Obama will just be Presidents Bush’s janitor.

right2bright on January 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM

And if Obama wins in 2012, then nothing he says today is going to matter.

logis on January 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

What he will say is, my first 4 years was straightening out all the problems…now the next 4 years is where I will implement my programs I promised 4 years ago…so if you loved me 4 years ago, you will really be impressed this next term because I will do what I promised I would do 4 years ago…and they will buy it.

right2bright on January 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Now Obama has decided to set the expectation that it might take as long as four years to figure out how to fulfill his campaign promise

Obama also has decided to set the expectation that he will have a second term. A bit presumptuous, methinks.

misslizzi on January 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I’m pretty well convinced that if that happens he and the rest of the Left will do everything that they accused Bush of doing.
crazy_legs on January 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Congress will never take responsibility for anything – ever. And Obama has given us no reason whatsoever that he’s going to start now. He’s been careful to select as many incompetent Cabinet members as he can to act as sacrificial lambs.

Assuming there is a major threat to American stability, of course it’s safe to assume that a great many atrocities will be comitted within that utter vacuum of accountability. But, like Pontius Pilate, all that will ever matter to liberals is that their own hands are clean. The world around them can quite literally go to Hell, and the worse it gets the more pure they’ll feel.

logis on January 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Hahahahaha. Good.

Alana on January 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Bishop on January 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Ewwww…. now I have wash my eyes with Clorox.

tru2tx on January 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Ditto. In the other hand, it says a lot about the artist sexual orientation and taste.

El Coqui on January 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

highhopes on January 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM

We really need to make sure to remind the Left about all his campaign promises versus his reality. Given the public dislike of GITMO any winning candidate would have tried to close it by the end of their first term – didn’t the O say this action would be dealt with on day one of his term?

katiejane on January 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Given the public dislike of GITMO any winning candidate would have tried to close it by the end of their first term – didn’t the O say this action would be dealt with on day one of his term?
katiejane on January 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM

The One never “said” anything. There is only what he SAYS – so it is, and so it shall ever be.

There is no past. There is only the glorious, hopeful, and everchanging future.

logis on January 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM

The campaign was “just words”. Now he’s getting a taste of reality

“Don’t tell me words don’t matter!”

drjohn on January 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Obama lies as easily as most people breathe. I suspect his true agenda has yet to be fully revealed.

MrScribbler on January 16, 2009 at 11:28 AM

And I thought that particular talent belonged to Bill Clinton alone. It must be something they teach them in Democrat Politician School.

abcurtis on January 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM