Elite Hamas unit destroyed, Hamas “surprised” by IDF

posted at 1:50 pm on January 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Admiral Emeritus defines disillusionment as watching your martial-arts instructor getting badly beaten in a bar fight.  This has to be close.  The mullahs in Tehran have reason to worry about their own security now that the IDF wiped out their Hamas commandos, apparently with no trouble whatsoever:

The so-called “Iranian Unit” of Hamas has been destroyed, according to Gaza sources cited Thursday by the Haaretz daily. The sources said most of the unit’s 100 members were killed in fighting in the Zeytun neighborhood of Gaza City.

The terrorists had been trained in infantry tactics, the use of anti-tank missiles and the detonation of explosives, among other skills, by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard at Hizbullah camps in Lebanon’s Beka’a Valley, as well as sites in Iran.

This comes as a severe blow to the prestige of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, as well as Hezbollah.  If their best can’t stand up for a week against the IDF, then their own enemies will look at their military as much less of a deterrent against action.  Since their nuclear program appears close to fruition, this is the wrong time to send that kind of message about Iranian capabilities.

Ha’aretz also reports that Hamas badly miscalculated the effect of their renewed missile attacks on Israel.  After watching the Olmert government in action in 2006 against Hezbollah and the political reaction to it, they assumed Israel would just return fire by air and cause “superficial” damage to their organization.  Surprise!

Two captured terrorists interviewed by Maariv/NRG say that Hamas was not expecting Israel’s response to the escalation in missile attacks on Israeli targets that preceded Operation Cast Lead. One of them, a 52-year-old victim of a premature detonation who had already done time in an Israeli jail, said, “Hamas took a gamble. We thought, at worst Israel will come and do something from the air – something superficial. They’ll come in and go out. We never thought that we would reach the point where fear will swallow the heart and the feet will want to flee. You [Israel] are fighting like you fought in ’48. What got into you all of a sudden?”

Really, what got into Israel was the narrowing options for dealing with Hamas.  They’ve tried just about everything, including cease-fires and the aforementioned air strikes, with no success.  Invasion and absolute confrontation was about all they had left short of complete surrender.  If Hamas leadership had paid attention, they might have realized this.

The Israelis are widely expected to bring the offensive to a halt in the next few days, but I’m not certain they will.  They’re starting to do tremendous damage to Hamas both in Gaza and worldwide.  They have restored the reputation for their military efforts that got damaged in 2006.  The IDF and Israeli government should consider completing the rout of Hamas rather than worry about timetables at this point.


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Their elite forces were not that elite. If this is the best that Iran can provide then they(Iran) are in a world of hurt. Kill em’ all IDF.

0321_GUY on January 16, 2009 at 4:37 PM

They are awesome at shooting their AK-47’s into the air.

And their battle record against pizza parlors is pretty impressive as well.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM

They should continue until Hamas is officially embarrassed,wiped off the face of the earth that will bring ceasefire too .
edititing provided by B.O. aint president yet

the_nile on January 16, 2009 at 2:02 PM

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM

The arab radicals do not understand humiliation. The only thing they are conditioned to understand through centuries of not evolving is more violence. At this point these monkeys cannot be taught, they must simply be crushed out of existence, or at least the few that are left need to fear for their lives MORE than they feel the need to exact revenge for humiliation and the deaths of their kin.

Employ the darwinian eraser until they disappear.

Spiritk9 on January 16, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Errhh…7,200?

BobMbx on January 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Actually the total is just 72. Muhammad made a mistake in dictation. He missed the decimal point. It was actually .72. The other .28 was a little decomposed so he didn’t tell them about that.

Corsair on January 16, 2009 at 4:57 PM

And their battle record against pizza parlors is pretty impressive as well.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I think this training video from a Hamas military compound tell it all.
Here…pretty brutal but probably accurate.

right2bright on January 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Ought to take pictures of the bodies being dumped in a feed trough for pigs………but then that would be unkind to the pigs.

GarandFan on January 16, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Also what got into Israel was their leaders’ desire to get elected back into office.

rogersnowden on January 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM

The Israelis are about to run up against the elite Italian Hamas squad next. They’re chasing the French Hamas squad, too, but we all know that’s a lost cause. No one runs away better than the French.

Wino on January 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Uh, as an AMERICAN Italian I take offense to that remark. Italian’s may not have done themselves proud in WWII siding with Hitler, but don’t take their easy defeat by the allies as an indication on how they fight wars, most Italians didn’t want to fight for the Germans and only did because of Musso! However I’m certain THIS American Italian can fight better than any Frog or Arab puke!

Seriously, look at the numerous AMERICAN Italians that fought for the US in WWII, they did their country and nationality proud!

Liberty or Death on January 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Seriously, look at the numerous AMERICAN Italians that fought for the US in WWII, they did their country and nationality proud!

Liberty or Death on January 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Also, you will remember one of the most stirring videos of that great Italian hero, who stood before the terrorists and defied them with a statement similar to “I will show you how a real Italian dies”.
Too many Italians have lost their head to terrorists.

right2bright on January 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Note to Hamas….

When you find out that you don’t like what’s on the other end of the chain that you’ve been jerking on, it’s probably too late to complain about it.

Hog Wild on January 16, 2009 at 5:53 PM

This is disproportionate because they didn’t give Hamas a do-over.

Jim Treacher on January 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM

And their battle record against pizza parlors is pretty impressive as well.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I think this training video from a Hamas military compound tell it all.
Here…pretty brutal but probably accurate.

The Nazis had Panzer Divisions and Hamas has Pizza divisions.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Spiritk9 on January 16, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Actualy, the Arab world understand humiliation very well, but for them its a binary decision set…

You are either strong and can do what you with to anyone you wish to do it to…

Or you are weak, and the strong can do what they wish to you.

Problem is that in the Arab culture, strength does not exist unless used… you have to proove your strenth constantly, or you are considered weak…

The idea of self restraint is not in their world view… which is why America gets them all confused. We are strong, but try to use restraint…

They understood Bush after 9/11, because we were angry and used our power… but as soon as we “calmed down” and went diplospeak, we once again confused them…

Romeo13 on January 16, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Liberty or Death,

You’re either American or you’re Italian. Make up your mind. If you’re hyphenated, then choose the latter, and live with the history of not having won any significant battles since about 100 A.D.

I lived in Italy for 6 years in the 1980’s. We had the Achilli Lauro mastermind and principle perpetrator in our hands on Italian soil, and the pansies gave him back after fighting us for jurisdiction, because they were afraid that there would be more terrorist bombing if they held onto him.

In the words of Dr. Phil, “How’s that workin’ out for you?”

Wino on January 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Liberty or death–

Seriously, look at the numerous AMERICAN Italians that fought for the US in WWII, they did their country and nationality proud!

I agree– my dad’s buddy in World War II (82nd Airborne) was an Italian American from the Scranton area. Bumba (his family nickname) was an awesome paratrooper as well as a good friend to my dad. Our families have been close ever since the war.

PA Cat on January 16, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Kill. Them. All.

PersonalLiberty on January 16, 2009 at 7:29 PM

The best thing about not worrying about responding “disproportionately”, and just laying waste to you enemies is this:

The next time you tell someone to stop “or else”… bingo, they stop.

drunyan8315 on January 16, 2009 at 8:00 PM

All you need to know about Muslim soldiers/terrorists is they beat their women. Cowards the bunch.

patrick neid on January 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM

The IDF and Israeli government should consider completing the rout of Hamas rather than worry about timetables at this point.

Oh yeah. Agreed. Then turn around and go after Hassan Nasrallah and his Hezbollah baby killers.

Zorro on January 16, 2009 at 8:27 PM

All you need to know about Muslim soldiers/terrorists is they beat their women. Cowards the bunch.

Another fun fact about these charming dudes is that they all rape their young, defenseless nephews.

It’s a time-honored tradition, nephew rape is.

Kinda accounts for why they’re such stand up guys later on in life.

NoDonkey on January 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM

There should be some sort of global peer review that permits the stripping of the word “elite” from any military organization with a simple majority vote.

moxie_neanderthal on January 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM

“War to the knife, knife to the hilt”

Nathan Bedford Forrest, 1862

Hilts on January 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Go Israel Go!

ex-Democrat on January 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM

BWA HA HA HA. I love it when a plan comes together.

Apparently Hamas’ plan was to provoke a modern and well equipped military force that had been training for this situation for the past several years with no other plan than “They won’t retaliate in force.”

Wow. Well, HAMAS THIS IS YOUR WAKEUP CALL! Should Israel decide to show mercy (and I’m all for kicking murderous terrorists when they’re down) I highly suguest that you consider seeking a REAL peace.

Naaah. Even if they “Surrendered” I wouldn’t trust them to abide by it.

I say take this opportunity to eliminate Hamas.

Jones Zemkophill on January 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Only in the Middle East Arab world, can a 2006 loss by Hezbollah be construed as a loss for Israel. What part of losing thousands of Hezbollah terrorists be a victory do you not understand? Arab propaganda anyone?

As for Hamas, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Israel is not one to be messed with. The one and only true God will see to that.

To borrow a line from YouTube: Leave Israel ALONE.

dthorny on January 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM

WoooHoooo!!

A big Bravo Zulu to the Zahal! Keep up the good work, boys!

Mooseman on January 16, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Seriously – Islamic terrorists remind me of rednecks playing with fire. “Hey, watch, I can make explosi—BOOOM”.

hawksruleva on January 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Easy now. “Rednecks playing with fire” is pretty much the US military.

–redneck who formerly played with fire

ddrintn on January 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM

To Condi and Tzpni… the best compliment I ever received was from my son when he graduated and became a Marine. “Mom, you would have made a great DI.

Unfortunately there are are not enough serious “Moms” (since neither of these women have been there) in diplomatic positions, who wouldn’t know a stick from a carrot.

G-d bless the IDF and condemn the Hamas to perdition.

YankeeinCA on January 16, 2009 at 11:47 PM

The terrorists had been trained in infantry tactics, the use of anti-tank missiles and the detonation of explosives, among other skills….

Apparently, basic rifle marksmanship wasn’t part of the course. The Muj can’t shoot. This is why the casualties even in a Talibani ambush is so lopsided…for the ambushees.
The temptation of select-fire weapons is just too great on men from a society with a perpetual inferiority complex. They’ve just gotta go full auto (AKA spray and pray).

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on January 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Warning! Controversial statement alert!

First off, lets state the obvious: tt does not surprise me that the IDF took care of Hamas’ elite units. After all, the Israeli military is by and large a well-respected and effective force with years of experience and good intelligence. Furthermore, they have a cause they believe in. The result was never in doubt. But to my mind the quality of the IDF has now become a hindrance to the goals of the Israelis. It’s too good.

I know that sounds like a dumb thing to say, but bear with me. The military has become a tool the Israeli politicians are increasingly turning to for solutions. Yes its an effective fighting force, but an army by and large can only break things. They are no good for finding lasting political solutions, and ultimately the problems in Palestine have to be sorted out through agreement.

I am aware that no one likes politics when they are under threat. Coming from the UK, I know what it’s like to live under the threat of Irish terrorism, and talking to someone who wants to cut your throat is not appealing. Military solutions seem so much cleaner, so much less dirty. But sometimes you need a weasel politician to go in and do the dirty work, even if it feels unpleasant. Because politics may be dirty, but its very effective when dealing with a problem that cannot be solved with missiles or bullets.

Hamas is not an armed force. Its a propoganda force. It is not some kind of honourable military opponent worthy of the IDF, but rather a wicked, ruthless terrorist organisation who seeks to cause as much damage to the civilians they represent in order to further their own aims. And lest anyone forget, the aims of Hamas are not to further the Palestinian cause, but to further the Iranian cause by proxy.

Hamas are propoganda genuises. They give the Palestinians aid of sorts, keen to show the world their welfare system. But they also take away the future of the Palestinians they claim to help, denying them the possibility of peace or prosperity. And they fill them with black propoganda, beating or killing those who do not share their nihilistic ideology.

How do you defeat such an enemy? The Israelis have chosen their military as a weapon of choice, but for me, this is a mistake. Propoganda can only be fought through illumination and truth. To fight it with bombs, and the inevitable deaths this cause, is simply to play to Hamas’ strength.

It seems to me that the real tragedy of Israel is the lack of effective politicians. Their army may be excellent, but the Palestinians run rings around the Israeli politicians. Until Israel gets effective political leadership, they are doomed to be considered the ‘bad guy’ of the Middle East. I know that’s not how it is, but in the political game, perception is everything.

Just ask Hamas.

dcpolwarth on January 17, 2009 at 6:54 AM

It seems to me that the real tragedy of Israel is the lack of effective politicians. Their army may be excellent, but the Palestinians run rings around the Israeli politicians. Until Israel gets effective political leadership, they are doomed to be considered the ‘bad guy’ of the Middle East. I know that’s not how it is, but in the political game, perception is everything.

Just ask Hamas.

dcpolwarth on January 17, 2009 at 6:54 AM

There’s a lot of truth in what you posted, but I think that as long as Israel is supported by the US, they will always be the “bad guy” in the ME — especially in the eyes of the Euroleft. No matter what Israel does. To them, Israel’s very existence is an affront. After all, Israel’s existence does provide respectability to the old anti-semitic attitudes.

ddrintn on January 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM

ddrintn you have a good point. It seems on the face of it that Israel’s cause is lost – they can never win the propoganda war.

But don’t give up hope. Back in the bad old days of Irish terrorism, Britain was considered the bad guy like Israel is now. People got swept up in the romance of the little guy taking on the big government, and pounced on any violation by the government as a sign that they were evil. Crimes carried out by terrorists never seem to arouse the same sort of ire as those by states.

Like Hamas, IRA/Sinn Fein had huge financial support. Most of this came from Americans who were all too keen to see English people blown apart on the news. The fact is the troubles of Northern Ireland were almost solely funded by the citizens of the United States. The bloodshed would not stop, and no matter how many were bombed, the government were always the bad guys. Like Israel now, the situation seemed hopeless.

There is a connection to the Middle East and Northern Ireland that few know about. Not many Americans are aware that Sinn Fein is a Marxist Communist political party that exported their sophisticated bomb-making and booby trap plans to other terrorist ‘brothers’ around the world, such as the Columbian FARC. Assassinations and bombings were an Irish specialty. The Middle East connection occurs in the strong pro-Palestinian stance of the IRA. They hate Jews, and they really hate Israelis. Being one of the wealthiest political parties in Europe, I would not be surprised if Sinn Fein had donated money to Palestinian organisations in the past. Might be worth Googling. If you’ve ever donated money to Sinn Fein, you could well have just paid for the bullet or the bomb that killed an Israeli. Knock yourself out.

Political contacts were made secretly with Sinn Fein, and the peace process started. Once people start talking, the bullshit stops, and flaws on both sides appear. It is true that the Irish Catholics were not treated as well as they might have been. This was to our shame. Their grievances were heard by all, and the political system provided a solution of sorts. In turn, the crimes and horrors of the IRA were exposed, the bodies dug up, and the criminal drug-dealing and extortion rackets wound down to a lower level.

Britain is no longer seen as the evil murderers we once were. Sinn Fein/IRA are no longer treated with heroic status in America, especially after 9/11. America has quietly chosen to forget the role it played in Irish terrorism. And the same could happen to Israel and the Palestinians.

Let me paint you a picture:

Imagine grandchildren in Israel playing happily with their Muslim neighbours. They laugh, have fun. There is no fear, no walls, no checkpoints. Their parents trade jokes, having long been business partners. They live in a beautiful land were politics is about water companies not killing.

What you be willing to give up for that future? What Israeli settlements are so important they cannot be traded for this? What tyrant is so evil that you will not talk to them, even if it meant that this future could come to pass?

You are right that it takes two sides to seek a resolution. But Clinton almost arranged it before, and there will be a time when the chance will arise again. Perhaps not tomorrow or next month, but one day, there will be a chance to talk.

Killing is a young man’s game. There are many older people I am sure on the Palestinian side who are getting tired of it. People with influence. If you could open a channel to them, there really could be a great future for Israel and the Palestinians. And the politician who did that would lauded as a true hero.

Have you anyone who could fill those shoes?

dcpolwarth on January 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM

lol The only ones who considered them “elite” were the “elites” in the MSM. I say wipe ’em out Israel!!

Rick554 on January 17, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Dead Islamist fanatics and their backers being scared equals good news to me…. a rare thing these days.

Yakko77 on January 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Have you anyone who could fill those shoes?

dcpolwarth on January 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Bibi can.

I am hoping that when he wins the election, he announces that Sharon made a grave mistake by pulling out of Gaza. I hope he says that Israel considers itself responsible for permitting conditions to exist which allowed Hamas to terrorize the neighborhood.

Then he should announce that the IDF is not leaving, and that the Israeli (not call them Jewish) settlers are coming back. He should announce that Gaza is annexed and will be the Hong Kong (old style) of the middle east.

The new slogan for Gaza? “As Gaza stands up, Israel will stand down.” Screw agreements – FORCE a two-party solution.

platypus on January 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM

The Israelis are widely expected to bring the offensive to a halt in the next few days, but I’m not certain they will.

Why should then until the job is done? Until Hamas recognizes Israel’s right to exist (cold day in hell) or abdicates its power in Gaza (next coldest day in hell), Israel’s only choice is the outright emasculation of every single Hamas terrorist that still has a heartbeat.

As for the alleged international scorn–screw it. European and UN apologists are never on Israel’s side and are just gunning for another excuse to offer up their mock outrage. Who gives a crap what they think. They never have, and never will, come to Israel’s defense.

Israel–rock on. Do what you have to do to survive.

redfoxbluestate on January 18, 2009 at 1:11 PM