there is 45 % of the country who still believe in
The freedoms our forefathers bestowed upon us.

but i am not going to sit here now and just let the liberals
blame all the conservatives for EVERY problem that they caused.
The lierals made their bed let them sleep in it..
But and i repeat BUT
To the people who are stuck and i am one of them.

1. stop investing in the stock market its rigged anyway
in my opinion you will not make those kinds of returns

2. cut your expenses by 1/3 – this means park the suv or sell it and buy a used 4 cylinder

3. pay off credit cards fast
4. get rid of unnecessary expenses (internet and cable are next on my list)
5. do what all the liberals do (get a legal tax shelter)
most if not all of the music stars do this..
You pay your taes but i claim every legal thing..

6. dump your 401k (or at least stop putting money into it)
Now i know they will say dont do it..
but i watched mine (and i dont have much) loose 25%
its gone.. you wont make it back because
even it the stock market came roaring back
everyone knows

The entire system stocks, bonds, are all rigged..
Hell did anyone watch the videos on youtube of all the liberals swearing how sound and safe freddie and fanny were?
Before barney franks and todd raped these too..

7. dump the home and take the loss. this is a last resort but may have to happen.

I am just starting this now..
turning my heat down to 60
and yes its cold but i cant feed the arabs

I cannot keep on using more gas and electricity and then borrow more money either from the chiense to pay the arabs

I have to draw the line someplace..
I am doing this because i see the future and it looks
Really really Bad..

And do not expect these liberal morons to save you.
Hell there so arrogant that the chief to head the IRS
doesnt pay his taxes and obama is ok with this..

So who do you think obama and pelozie and reid asnd the rest of these nutjobs are comming after?

Why you because you are rich..
you just dont know it..
and you dont have it either i will bet,.,.

Sure the legislature is packed full of liberal wakos..
But years ago since 1993 california was doing all it could to run any company it didnt see as green out of the state

It was so bad that companies moved just over the bridge to nevada or arizona
I saw a liberal news piece on this around 2000
So just blaming the liberals in the legislature in incorrect

The liberals on the street wanted and demanded that
these polluting companies were forced out
the manufacturers were forced out
they were calling for the us military to move out

Yes california has a huge economy
and most of it is being funneled to the illegals flooding the state

and now all there coffee drinking pot smoking
crack addicted illegal loving liberals
are crying because their isnt any more money?

Hmm go ask themexicans for their refunds..

MORONS

Politically advanced, rich, coastal and northern states, however, *can* have deficits, because they are not backward southerners with outmoded notions of moral and fiscal responsibility. Now the people of our poor, responsible state are going to contribute, through their tax dollars, to bailing out our betters who live beyond their means. And when it’s all over we’ll still be hillbillies.

What a country.

We can’t afford to retire because of the high cost of living, so we are stuck unless we simply walk away from our house. It might come to that if we didn’t have this antiquated notion that honoring your commitments is important.

I resent paying for all the freeloaders. I resent our legislature spending like there is no tomorrow and then turning around to the citizens and demanding that we pay their bills. Whatever happened to the idea of living within your means?

Oh, I forgot. These are liberals we’re talking about. The kind that got hold of our national government and are (also) spending like there is no tomorrow. Pretty soon the whole country will be no better off than California. What do we do than? Give it all to Mexico and move somewhere else?

You made your bed….
Now burn in it.

I hope I’m reading you wrong, but you seem to be saying that if we just give the democrats in CA unchecked power to just keep raising our taxes to meet higher and higher costs… that will solve everything? Is that right?

You’re addressing another issue- CA state spending is too high. However, the exact cause of the sate’s fiscal problem is an imbalance between what’s spent and what is collected in taxes. That is, not enough taxes to cover spending.

You may be right that too much money is wasted on social programs. But to rationalize a massive budget deficit / not raising taxes with that kind of argument is similar to saying that you’ll put expenses that you can’t afford on your credit card. Just because you pay for those charges with credit doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay for them through higher taxes. You’re just pushing back that responsibility to a later time or to a future generation.

On a national level, many conservatives have been applying the same logic in a massive economic experiment that’s mortgaging the nation out to China and other lenders. Just because you don’t agree with government spending doesn’t give you the right to keep taxes artificially lower than spending. Look at the collapse of every great nation / power, and you’ll see exactly this type of behavior going on. What are some people thinking? Our national debt will just vanish into thin air? I realize that the average person doesn’t have a finance degree but this should be common sense.

The biggest reason for California’s fiscal problems- it takes a simple majority of the legislature or a ballot initiative to approve new spending, but a 2/3 majority of the legislature to approve a tax increase. It doesn’t take genius to realize why this system doesn’t work.

I hope I’m reading you wrong, but you seem to be saying that if we just give the democrats in CA unchecked power to just keep raising our taxes to meet higher and higher costs for the neverending cornicopia of benefits to illegals that our half hispanic government here keeps dealing out, that will solve everything? Is that right?

Let me describe what I will call an entitlement bubble. That is when you so many people collecting ‘free’ benefits from the government and so few people paying in, that the system essentially reaches the point where payments outpace revenues by such a large amount that not even selling bonds or borrowing like tomorrow don’t exist can cover the difference. That is where CA is right now. What will need to happen is for the state to stop paying these people benefits and tell them to get off their crack smoking ass and support themselves or get the hell out, the later defintely preferred!

Another example of whose money it really is by our elected government. It’s amazing that our economy has turned into one big credit card. I thought having good credit was the golden rule for financial success.

You’re totally right.
Look at how much this country spends on paying interest on the national debt- 10% of total GNP (a number that has doubled under Bush). It’s completely unacceptable- and the Chinese don’t give us any kind of tax credit on interest payments, like the feds do with your home loan. We need to bring *real* conservatives back in charge of the Republican party. Until that happens, the GOP will wander aimlessly and stand for nothing.

Liberals Forced all the companies to leave by raising taxes
Liberals Forced the military out (berkley) comes to mind

Last time I noticed, California had the 5th largest economy in the world and dominated the worldwide film and computer technology industries.

In reality, most Americans didn’t care about illegal immigration until those immigrants started moving beyond the southwest border states. People didn’t see the problems of California and Arizona as their problems. Until recently, the border states had inadequate federal protection against the immigration wave. And far more so than liberals, it was agribusiness that did the most to relax laws and law enforcement in order to ensure an oversupply of cheap migrant labor to bring in annual crops. This has meant cheap produce for the entire country, but California has been stuck with the tab for education, health care, and other expenses related to immigrant families.

The biggest reason for California’s fiscal problems- it takes a simple majority of the legislature or a ballot initiative to approve new spending, but a 2/3 majority of the legislature to approve a tax increase. It doesn’t take genius to realize why this system doesn’t work.

Before any fed money goes to any state, the federal government should require that such patently stupid rules be changed. Otherwise, California should get nothing.

We are currently making plans for our exit from this former dreamland with much sadness…I hope no more libs will infect our future home state and I’m glad to be old so I will not live this but despair for my kidlets.

Good-bye, Golden State

I voted McClintock

NTropy on January 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM

As did I…then I moved to Nevada.

I voted McClintock

Me too.

my answer would be
We will pay you to keep them,..

Amen.

And then ask for randsome..

my answer would be
We will pay you to keep them,..

Liberals gave free medical care to ALL of the illegals
Liberals Forced all the companies to leave by raising taxes
Liberals Forced the military out (berkley) comes to mind
Liberals Enforced crazy environmental laws on us Citizens
But ALLOWED 20 million mexicans to TRASH the entire border
Liberals would not allow the us to drill for oil off our own COAST so we had to pay 140 $ a barrel to the arabs
Which destroyed the economy
Liberals Forced all the banks to LOAN money to
people with no id
people with fake social security numbers
people who were obviously illegals
Drug dealers, prostitutes, arabs who came in illegally
And after all of this they elected
arnold who promised he could balance the budget.

With what you morons..????
A majic wand?

California deserves to be handed back to mexico..
as long as all of its citizens and hollywood actors
Go along with it..

See if the mexicans will pay your exorborant salaries.
More than likely the drug lords will start kidnapping
all of the hollywood elitists

ahh one would hope so..
California is TOAST..

Man, you don’t know how right you are. I was coming back from the Redwoods on my bike and stopped at a gas station in Santa Ana. There was a closed up strip mall behind it with no electricity. One of the stores had the door open and there was a hand painted sign in front that said “MEAT”. Inside, there were people selling meat on unrefridgerated racks with flies everywhere and people were going in there and buying it. The area looks like some of the slimiest areas of the middle east, I did four tours in the middle east and I’ve seen some real crapholes. This was part of LA and it looked as bad as Pakistan.
Bikerken on January 16, 2009 at 11:58 PM

Sounds like Mexico to me. Don’t you enjoy the diversity?

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