Palin not invited to Obama dinner for McCain?
posted at 3:05 pm on January 15, 2009 by Allahpundit
Her spokesman claims he doesn’t know if she was or not, but come on.
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, his controversial running-mate, will not attend the dinner, Bill McAllister, a Palin spokesman tells Mother Jones…
Was she even invited? “I don’t know if she was invited,” McCallister says. Don’t know? How could that be? It’s hard to miss an invitation from a presidential inauguration committee. For its part, Obama’s inaugural committee has declined to say whether an invitation was sent to Palin. Repeated phone calls to its press office produced no answer to this simple question…
If Palin was left off the guest list, it’s not clear whether the snub came from McCain or the Presidential Inaugural Committee.
Isn’t it? I’m tempted to poll that question but we all know how it would go. Speaking of which, Rick Santorum chimes in this morning on why The One is bending over backwards to honor McCain: Because he knows a dependable maverick when he sees one.
In McCain’s mind, however, losing the presidency will not be the final chapter of his life story. He knows the path to “Big Media” redemption. Working with the man who vanquished him in November will show them all the real McCain again.
Remember, it was this onetime prisoner of war who led the charge to open diplomatic relations with Vietnam. If that past is prologue, and McCain’s legislative record is any guide, he will not just join with Obama but lead the charge in Congress on global warming, immigration “reform,” the closing of Guantanamo, federal funding for embryonic-stem-cell research, and importation of prescription drugs.
But McCain won’t stop there in his effort to rehabilitate himself in the media’s – or maybe his own – eyes. He will forge common ground on a long list of initiatives that go far beyond where he has gone before, including the stimulus package.
So obviously true is this that I’m not going to bother polling it, either. Instead, let’s approach the question this way: Are there any major policy initiatives on which McCain will break sharply with Obama? You’re all going to say Iraq but you’re kidding yourselves. For one thing, they’re already working hard to assimilate Maverick’s chief crony on that, and for another, he and Obama have always been more in sync on this subject than most of us would like to admit. In fact, if The One does try to speed up his withdrawal plans, the first person he’ll call to ask for cover on that is McCain. McCain might not give it to him, but the gesture at least will prevent him from leading some sort of GOP insurrection.
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See beating a dead horse. Maverick won’t go away. Neither will your heartfelt defense of him.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Here.
This one says she was a bigger drag than Bush. There’s this too. Plus, polls towards the end consistently showed her to have the highest negatives out of Biden, Obama, McCain and herself. That took 5 mins on google. I suppose you’ll dismiss all the polls as liberal or something, so I’m not sure why I bother. Let’s just say they were pretty accurate in predicting Obama’s victory.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
The Chanmblss thing is irrelevant. I don’t see how it relates to the national race at all. Do you have any un-biased evidence that she decisively swung the Chambliss election anyway?
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Yes, we get it. You hate Palin. Now, go away.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:37 PM
you are an absolute douchebag if you dont think she had an impact on the chambliss win
ousoonerfan15 on January 15, 2009 at 4:37 PM
McCain is a drive-by media loving turd, a petty man who can’t get over the fact the his 15 minutes of fame was overshadowed by the “provincial rube” that he picked as a running mate.
In retrospect, it’s plain we dodged a bullet when he lost. Anyone that acts the way he has (at his age, especially) is even less fit to command than Obama.
Sugarbuzz on January 15, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Probably, McCain is running for re-election, and he’d have no reason to live without the attention he gets from being a senator.
I can’t imagine that government spending is popular with Arizona republicans. He’ll oppose Obama on the size of the “stimulus” package.
kcewa on January 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM
No, because Sarah Palin isn’t thrive on victimhood. Your assumption that she would take the time to do so shows at least some degree of contempt for her, probably due to the fact that she stole your mav’s thunder. Don’t worry, though. He’s already back working with Russ Feingold, one of the most liberal senators in the country, whom he’s worked with before, and he’s back with the stalwart conservative Lindsay Graham. We all feel so good that we cast our vote for him, because Obama is so much worse.
There’s the truth, along with amnesty, and global warming kool-aid, and CFR, and all the other stuff you didn’t want to hear about.
You said anyone who didn’t vote for McCain was a traitor. Well, McCain sure has no problem hanging out with the guy who got most of those traitorous votes, and “saying nothing bad” about Palin when rumors are all over the mainstream media, or, more accurately, saying nothing at all.
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Fight on , you mean that Chambliss would have won bigger , or the were very different.
Try “divisive” , you trolls have stopped using it for awhile.
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Polls showed him winning by a few percentage points – within the margin of error. He won by double digits.
kcewa on January 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM
This is why it’s usually a waste of time to post serious analytical posts here. You know, with evidence and such. It gets in the way of peoples feelings.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM
What a waste…
redrock on January 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Maybe you missed the little word “impartial” earlier. Here is a shot of the “similar stories” that popped up beside your last link. First link is to ADN, which endorsed Obama & investigated the “Trig Truther stuff.
cs89 on January 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Nobody cares. You just want to start shit. That’s all.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:45 PM
crr6 – I predict another 3 – 4 minutes of cricket chirping until the others finish searching Google to find a poll stating how Palin was not a drag on the ticket.
johnnynucleo on January 15, 2009 at 4:45 PM
McCain’s lack of defense of Palin is as good as a solid indictment. His flunkies would never have gone to the media to trash her without a tacit nod from him. Just shows what a backstabbing chickensh*t McCain is; I’m guessing but I think he was a bit jealous of all the love and enthusiasm she generated by simply showing up somewhere during the campaign. His love affair with Obama is just beginning. When amnesty 2.0 comes up, have the barf bags ready. You’ll need them. Heigh ho Silver, it’s Backdoor John.
Regarding Whizzman, trying reading his comments in a falsetto childs voice; it adds a whole new level of entertainment.
austinnelly on January 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM
why do you like making crap up about what other people supposedly believe?
Why is it that you enjoy trying to put words into other people’s mouth?
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 4:47 PM
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:45 PM
No kiddin’ – “serious analytical post” using the Anchorage
Daily News? Bwahahahahahahaha
You might as well have used Factcheck.
kingsjester on January 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM
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the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Crr6. Look, you have a friend. There is none. MSM wouldn’t ALLOW IT, johnny.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM
by that same definition, every time that Bush didn’t deny that he invaded Iraq for oil, then by your definiton, Bush’s failure to retract every comment about him is as good as a solid indictment that the claim is true …. by your definition.
Or do you have a separate set of logical standards for different people?
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Yeah….in other news, crackheads are more likely to be foreclosed on….
These idiots do try my patience.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Why is it you can’t get through a discussion without playing victim?
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Got Midol? Hehehehe.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I asked you a question. It seems that you only want to deflect.
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Ah yes, the bias card. Like clockwork. Let’s say that the last poll was somehow part of a liberal plot to make people hate Palin. What about the other two I posted? The ADN has already cleared up its investigation of the Trig BS, they never endorsed the crazy conspiracy stuff, just sought to debunk it. Or you could find the dozens of other polls which are easily accessible by a simple google search.
That’s evident. You guys are mind-numbingly irrational when it comes to Palin, even more than the Palin-haters you despise. Whenever any evidence is presented which contradicts your narrative you don’t even try and refute it, you just stick your head in the ground.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM
The absolute truth is McCain is using Sarah as a scapegoat for his loss. In reality, he would’ve been trashed to the end of the earth without her being on the ticket. McCain was so bad that he had no change even if he had Obama on the ticket with him. Now McCain can go back to kissing liberal butts because a conservative “cost” him the election. McCain makes me nauseous. He and Dole will go down as the worst candidates ever nominated by the republicans.
volsense on January 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Says the guy who never addressed McCain’s positions on amnesty, CFR, global warming, etc…and instead of discussing the issue always defaulted to “Obama is worse STFU drop dead you idiots don’t put words in my mouth I never imply anything.”
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Polls cited by anti-conservatives notwithstanding……
George Soros himself couldn’t pay me enough to attend that dinner and pretend to be happy to be there.
And since I haven’t been personally insulted by either of those idiots (0bama & McCain) Mrs. Palin has even better reasons not to attend.
If she did, she would lose any respect that I may have for her.
LegendHasIt on January 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Looking back at the 2008 campaign Sarah’s most important contribution to it, which respect to ensuring her popularity in 2012, was being a key factor in allowing Chambliss to win by a double-digit margin when it was projected he would only win by about 4-5%. It showed that even after the election and even after the campaign where Sarah might have been perceived as a failed candidate, Sarah was able to impact politics significantly in a state where she basically had no organization or long-term presence. Conservatives said to themselves: “Whatever it is-Sarah’s got it–Team Sarah got a big boost from the Chambliss result–Sarah’s popularity is growing every day; she is just as popular as Obama is and he is to be inaugurated on January 20. Obama, eat your heart out!
technopeasant on January 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I think you are mistaken in where you place modifiers. If you will allow me. McCain was very competitive until the bailout fiasco. Of course, now the topic is mocking Palin (because she is still relevant), but the McCain campaign was done in on the day that he suspended his campaign. Reid and co then made him look like a fool over the course of the next week.
McCain owns his own loss.
If Palin was a drag, Chambliss wouldn’t have wanted her campaigning as vigorously as she did. (note the use – or lack thereof – of GWB in the general)
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM
And you Palin haters are annoying as a tick on your ass about not wanting to give Palin her due.
She is the true conservative, the only true choice for those that believe in true conservative values and ideals, and yet, those in the party that WANTED McCain, that want to push to the mushy middle to attact identity groups, such as hispanics, blacks, blah blah blah, at the detriment of the party ideal, hated her from the word go.
If you want to be a RINO and sell out, we WANT you out! Don’t vote for her. Vote for your ‘compassionate conservatives’ and other sell outs. But, don’t sit there and try to explain that McCain was the one that was the star of the ticket. No one buys it.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Of course, now the topic is mocking Palin (because she is still relevant), but the McCain campaign was done in on the day that he suspended his campaign. Reid and co then made him look like a fool over the course of the next week…..
To which I meant to add, “an action that made McCain mocked relentlessly.”
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM
All in just a couple of months , Obama had been present for years..
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 5:02 PM
I don’t know what constitutes “major” in your mind, but I very much doubt McCain will support further liberalizing of abortion laws (and funding for abortion) in this country.
As for the invite, do all Governors attend inaugurations? I haven’t been able to determine what is standard protocol. If Governor Palin is in town, I guess it’s a minor snub, but frankly I think she wants to distance herself from McCain anyway so I doubt she is losing sleep over it. If she is not in D.C., then it’s moot — she would have been criticized for extravagance if she had chosen to fly down there.
Y-not on January 15, 2009 at 5:02 PM
WHen the election comes down to two people, it’s no longer the primary when you get to pick one of the dozen of people who want to be the party nominee.
What is so difficult for you to understand about this? You can’t vote for .6 of one candidate and .4 of the other, or something like that. You can only vote for one person. Or neither, or vote for Bob Barr or write in “the lizzard people” if you so choose.
Again, I’m going to ask you – why do you deliberately try to put words into people’s mouths? I never said anything bad about Sarah Palin, let alone showed any contempt for her, as you make the claim. So again, why are you lying about me?
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Maverick is a RINO disgrace. Go back to Arizona and die. With Republicans like McCain, who needs Liberals?
marklmail on January 15, 2009 at 5:04 PM
McCain is a punk. He needs to retire. Maybe if he didn’t have a bunch of shit for brains running his campaign he wouldn’t be so bitter.
therightwinger on January 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Unless you’re in Minnesota.
/sarc
Y-not on January 15, 2009 at 5:08 PM
And if McCain ever had a 10 ft pole and the pair to go with it, the commies neutered him back in the Hanoi Hilton.
chunderroad on January 15, 2009 at 5:09 PM
I understand it completely. How hard is it for you to understand that the majority of conservatives, who have been represented by the Republican Party (for the most part) for the last few decades, think that McCain sucks? How hard is it for you to understand that many saw little difference between McCain and Obama past the letter in parentheses after their name? Read through this post and the subsequent comments. Most importantly, how hard was it for you to refrain from calling those people every name under the sun, including accusing them of treason?
You asserted that if McCain were a backstabber, that she would be spending her time spilling her guts about it. Most here know that is not the case, because she’s a classy lady, and doesn’t have the vindictive reputation that McCain does. Obviously, you think less of Palin than quite a few of us do.
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM
That’s exactly what he’s going to do. He won’t run for president ever again. If the people of his state will choose a better conservative that he is, one that votes on conservative issues more than 80% of the time and never collaborates with democrats on any legislation at all – and always agrees with every other republican as long as he’s representing them, the so much the better. In any case, you’ll get you wish for McCain to return to Arizona and die. It’s just a matter of when. Maybe when McCain croaks, then we can all enjoy the celebratory page here and make it to a thousand comments as to how delighted we all are that he’s dead.
I’ll be here. Sounds like a lot of fun. I wouldn’t miss it. See you then.
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM
McCain you petty little man you suck.And you wonder why you lost in nov.You Huckabee and the rest of the rino and also lets not forget the very smart so called Consev.pundits are a disgrace.Gov. Palin Gov Jindal and the rest of the true Consev. will have the last word and sonething you will never have The office of Pres.of the United States!!!!
thmcbb on January 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Sometimes you just can’t argue with logic…
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM
stop lying about me you cheese eating f*cking retard virgin.
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM
We shouldn’t be suprised that Gov Palin wasn’t invited to a dinner rewarding McCain for his bi-partisan nature. Even a man who would allow his staff to diss a runningmate anonymously wouldn’t be able to blame her to her face for being the one who made his campaign “so mean.” If McCain is going full bore to restore his image with the media he needs someone to blame for any and all snipes his campaign made against the Obamameister. Who better than that evil trailer trash that the media already hates? As long as they stop questioning his sanity for selecting her he will be more than happy to snub her and allow the disrespect.
katiejane on January 15, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Does anyone here think Sarah Palin would nhave wanted to attend a dinner with McCain and the big Zero? SDo they wan tot binvite her and lose the limelight and attention to her? She outshimnes them completely the Left will nhave to admit that sooner or later.
McCain would have lost really big had it not been for Palin. He sabotaged himself by not attacking O and by pulling that ridiculous stunt of suspending his campaign to go ahead and approve that bailout.O just stood there, did nothing, and also voted for it…Who looked more composed? Plus, when asked, Palin didn’t seem one bit enthusiatic in its support. I pray that McCain just would please go away now…
CCRWM on January 15, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Depends on who was saying it and why. Polls are relevant as to who was asked what, when and where. Context is everything.
By printing it? It’s a conspiracy theory. Period. It has no business being in any serious news source.
chunderroad on January 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Alas…that maverick temper. Classy.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM
The constant bashing and downgrading of Palin, while continuing to worship Obama is why her numbers were so bad. The press totally turned against the Republicans on every level, both local and national.
All Republican numbers were bad by the end of October. Bush was the albatross that the GOP should have cut lose a year ago. Bush did nothing to promote or expand the conservative movement. The GOP lost everything- the White House, the Congress and the Supreme Court because you were too busy hanging onto the lamest of all ducks.
Had you supported McCain and stop trying to be the radical right, you might have had a chance. Palin was the key to a more moderate, feasible conservative movement that wasn’t controlled by scary, self-righteous conservative Christian out to create a theorcracy.
Palin was the RIGHT choice and if there wasn’t so many mean, jealous a-holes around McCain spewing venom in his ear and not giving Palin the protection she needed, things would have been different. Too many Republicans put their own interest in front of the good of the party and that’s why you lost BIG TIME! And may never come back to power in 50 years.
Instead, we are getting Bush III in the form of a biracial centrist who is pretends he’s channeling Lincoln when he is really copying Clinton.
stefystef on January 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Does anyone here think Sarah Palin would have wanted to attend a dinner with McCain and the big Zero? Do they want to invite her and lose the limelight and attention to her? She outshines them completely. The Left will nhave to admit that sooner or later.
sorry…should’ve waited to get off the phone…
CCRWM on January 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM
I think that is unlikely. More likely is a third active phase of his political life, which, I suspect like Santorum said, will be filled with bipartisan crap bills to show his post-partisan purity.
Pity us all as his efforts are inevitably unconstitutional.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Can anyone picture Todd wanting to go? I have a hard time dragging my hubby to a small gathering with friends — I’d never even ask him if he’d like to sit down with a bunch of phonies and enemies.
Y-not on January 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Yes, maverick is the bitter gift that keeps on giving.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM
First, I’m not lying. Your assumption shows what you think she would do, and that is something that a lesser woman than many of us believe she is. How hard is it for you to understand this, eh?
Second, yeah, I like cheese. Maybe it sucks where you live, but in Wisconsin, it’s the best in the country.
Third, did I predict the language, or what?
Fourth, I’m not retarded. I know you’ve already called me insane, but they usually don’t coincide. So which is it?
Fifth, why in the world are you speculating on my sexual status?
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I thought he couldn’t use a keyboard?
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Because a Machiavellian conniver like Obama knows that he needs to keep his friends close, and his enemies closer.
As for McCain, he may have a tougher battle for re-election than he expects. Many Arizonans are angry about his support of the bailout, and of course, his amnesty bill was not popular here. It’s always hard to oust an incumbent, especially one who has been around forever, but if the AZ Republicans can get a serious candidate to run against McCain, he could be in for a fight.
AZCoyote on January 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I know you wonder if Wise is really maverick, but no. But, calling someone a cheese eating…well, I’m not gonna repeat it, is clearly a temper tantrum.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Half of the reason Palin was chosen to run for VP was to attract an identity group. And I’m not a RINO. I’m a democrat. Good luck kicking out all the moderates in your party though. Enjoy your ever-shrinking electorate.
Thanks for the serious response. I would agree that McCain bears a great deal of responsibility for the loss, mostly because of his inept response to the financial crisis, and I would never say that Palin was solely responsible for the loss. In fact, I think no matter who McCain picked he probably still would have lost. But that doesn’t change the fact that Palin was a net drag on the ticket and undermined McCain’s central arguments of experience and judgement. The polls bear this out.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Coyote. It’s all you. Please toss the maverick. He is a traitor to his own country with that amnesty train wreck.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I’m sorry, but you think too much of Jindal. It is a attempt by the GOP to put their own “person of color” in the mix against Obama. Not good. There are others more qualified.
The GOP needs to move away from the radical religious right (like Reagan did) and look at a more moderate conservative message that doesn’t condem people nor play up their flaws. Americans are tired of being blamed for everything when the corporations are running around, fucking up everything with little or nor responsibility to their actions.
McCain had the right person, Palin, he just didn’t’ know how to use her because he didn’t know her. An old man like that knows his friends and wants them near because he really doesn’t want to learn anything new. McCain would have loved to have Liebermann, but that would have signaled the true Kiss-of-Death for the GOP.
Time to fall back and reconstruct, conservatives. You wasted 30 years of building a movement on George W. He failed you and now all he wants is to go into obscurity. Honestly, he never wanted to be President. He only wanted to best his father.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_s_farewell
This does not sound like a man who loved being President. Bill Clinton did. So did Ronald Reagan.
stefystef on January 15, 2009 at 5:25 PM
WELL, that explains EVERYTHING. True conservatives stick to the values and ideals. Democrats stick to lies and whatever will attract the vote. Free gas, Mortgage bailout, ACORN….
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:27 PM
The greatest compliment to Palin is NOT to be invited. This will look bad for them and good for her politically among Conservatives. Maybe that’s why no one revealed whether there was an invitation made.
Done That on January 15, 2009 at 5:27 PM
So true. That’s why he dinned with George Will.
Obama is using the Charm Offensive to make the conservative pundits LESS critical of him.
It’s trying to keep the Kool-Aid going before people wake up.
stefystef on January 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM
You’re like a parody of a conservative. You can’t respond to a simple post without going off on some sort of emotional tangent.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I don’t know about anyone else, I only get bent when one’s honorable service is demeaned, belittled, or portrayed as dishonorable. Which has transpired here on HA. McCain’s a politician and his policy stances are open game. The time he spent in uniform and serving honorably is not open game.
It’s obvious, this is Obama’s party, and Obama isn’t going to do Palin any favors. Two reasons. Palin is not in a position to do Obama any favors. Palin is a threat to Obama, especially if things don’t go well his first term.
I don’t think McCain made it a point to not invite Palin to this kiss and make up session. But so what if he did? Do we really want Palin attending such events? I don’t.
Palin is now back on her original path that she has been blazing for herself for quite a while now. Now the entire country knows her. She can and I am sure will change the negative perceptions of her that people who really don’t know her record currently hold, and she will have the last laugh. She just needs to keep running her state under budget, looking our for Alaskan citizens, and working for energy indpendence. And doing nationally televised interviews, like the one she’s going to do with Glenn Beck Monday. Needs to do O’Reilly, love him or hate him he owns that time slot.
Hog Wild on January 15, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Obama would rather his enemies be dead!
technopeasant on January 15, 2009 at 5:30 PM
And you’re a democrat…trying to convince a bunch of conservatives that you are right. Nice try.
BTW, I thought you democrats were the touchy feely sort, we’re just racist, bigots that want to destroy the world.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Come on , he really want to help.
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Two points in response.
I think the argument of experience and judgment was already factored in completely by the time of VP selections. Moreover, Obama had already “defeated” that argument in securing the nomination instead of Hillary.
Second, it is possible that Palin was a drag on the ticket. I personally find this difficult to believe because the margin of victory was not small – that points to what I think was true on the GOP side – a dispirited base. But even if (I grant this not because I agree, but for the sake of discussion) IF she was a drag, it means little going forward.
She was a comparative unknown and her image was molded by the media – whom she went to war with. Her image and appeal will be modified over the next few years as people get to know more about her. All they know right now is that she was a firebrand.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Uh, yeah.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Yes, there was not a better selection for McCain to make. She gave him a fighting chance. They completely mismanaged her – I don’t think that is debatable.
His response to the bailout bill played into his stereotype as a quick, emotional thinker, with little to no judgment. I’m not shocked the country didn’t hand over the keys.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 5:37 PM
+100. No denying John McCain’s military service to this country, but his policies certainly weren’t, and aren’t, my cup of tea. Sarah Palin’s, on the other hand, are, and I also appreciate the grace she’s continued to show towards McCain.
Snowed In on January 15, 2009 at 5:37 PM
As I recall, McCain’s only lead over Obama was during the period between the Palin selection and the campaign suspension.
Snowed In on January 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I would not go on O’Reilly if I were her. I think she’s better off sticking with interviews that are focussed on a topic relevant her areas expertise. O’Reilly’s interviews are too meandering and are designed to invariably lead to sound bite moments. They’re just too theatrical in tone, imho. It’s hard to come off as having gravitas on The Factor. Even Brit Hume seemed perturbed when he did that show on his last week on Special Report.
ANWR is an issue right now, so I hope she focusses on that on Monday as much as possible. After that, I’d do Cavuto and other business-oriented programs.
Y-not on January 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Exactly so.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 5:39 PM
McCain won’t oppose Obama in any meaningful way.
He’ll make some noise about the size of the stimulus, but not out of any principle he understands and certainly not enough to rock the boat.
Lehosh on January 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM
The financial meltdown destroyed McCain’s campaign. it’s as simple as that. That is why I will never blame McCain for losing the election; what I blame him for however, is his handling of Sarah’s unveiling, his team’s mishandling of her vs the media and his lack of support for Sarah after the election.
technopeasant on January 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM
His pick of Palin played into the same stereotype.
I already acknowledged this…but then she was interviewed and she came off as completely economically illiterate. Remember her response to the Couric question on the economy? After the crisis worsened people just became scared sh*tless of her getting the reigns and her negatives skyrocketed.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Woah. Epic fail with the preview button. Post should look as follows.
His pick of Palin played into the same stereotype.
She was also responsible for the way her image was molded. Sure she was mishandled, but you have to admit, in the limited media appearances she was granted she performed horribly.I agree with you in that I don’t think her being a drag on the ticket was particularly consequential as to the results of the election. But it should be instructive for you in whether or not you build your 2012 hopes around her. Just sayin. If you do it works in my favor.
I already acknowledged this…but then she was interviewed and she came off as completely economically illiterate. Remember her response to the Couric question on the economy? After the crisis worsened people just became scared sh*tless of her getting the reigns and her negatives skyrocketed.
crr6 on January 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Snub Palin the reason McCain got close to 57 million votes…oh that is really smart Politics/sarc…I am supposed to believe that Obama a wonderkind politician and he can’t figure this one out – He draws attention by his omissions. What was Dennis Rodmans old quote “bad as I want to be” Brack Obama “as lame as they come to be”
Dr Evil on January 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I consider myself second to none in the depth of my horror at the mistake made by the American electorate in November, but I also don’t want to marinate in the same hate sauce liberals have been basting themselves in since 2000. Obama does need to preside over the government of the entire United States, and it is entirely appropriate, and commendable, that he would meet with leaders from the opposition party and philosophy. I think we should applaud Obama for this, and reserve our hatred for the slimy RINO traitors that accept his invitation. (Kidding, kidding…)
I can understand the tactical purpose in refusing to invite Palin – he’s just refusing to make the fatal mistake McCain made in dealing with him. He doesn’t want to extend legitimacy to her. When McCain pointedly wasted campaign time by trumpeting what a swell guy and dignified statesman Obama was, he extended an undeserved amount of stature to a laughably unqualified opponent with a murky past, and diminished his own credibility with the segment of the conservative electorate that saw Obama for what he was. Obama would be making the same mistake by going out of his way to elevate Sarah Palin and proclaim her to be one of the Republican’s top leaders… and Democrats never make that mistake, nor will their media auxilliaries.
Doctor Zero on January 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM
I think people were much more scared of McCain w/r/t the economy than Palin. I would venture that a lot of the people who didn’t like Palin at that point had bought into the “she’s a moron/bimbo/insert-your-own-word-here” caricature presented by Tina Fey. (I mean, really, does anyone watch the evening news anymore???)
Granted, Palin’s interviews weren’t great, especially after editing, but McCain’s economic policy at that point was starting to look rudderless (and I wasn’t thrilled about it at the time…I just figured it had to be better than Obama’s).
Snowed In on January 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM
I blame him for his handling of the financial meltdown, too. He should have been hitting TV around the clock, howling for the heads of Barney Frank and his co-defendants, including Obama. He should have refused to get through an interview without talking about the way Democrats squelched his and Bush’s attempts to stave off the crisis, and reminding everyone about ACORN’s role in the tragedy, or just how much money flowed into the pockets of certain Democrats. He should have opposed the bailout madness and warned of where it would lead. Instead, he loudly announced he was suspending his campaign, ran around the backstage area of the Washington circus for a couple of days, and came out with his arms around his valued Democratic Senate colleagues, muttering something about Wall Street fat cats as the villains. Much of America’s fate was decided in those days.
Doctor Zero on January 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Palin 2012
Firebird on January 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Anybody but a RINO 2012
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 6:06 PM
I don’t think Poppy Bush likes having Dan Quayle around much, either…..
Noneya on January 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM
They must be cleaning under the bridge again.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM
If Thompson or Romney had been the nominee would Obama have had a dinner for one of them?
Rose on January 15, 2009 at 6:14 PM
ugly noneya, makes an appearance once again in a Palin thread.
It was about time the PDS kicked in..
An Era of Hate on January 15, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Sort of, but not really. Note Biden shut up when Obama had heard enough gaffes. Same with Michelle. The people at the top pull the strings. Their strategy was not her’s.
I think your thesis of she performed horribly is overstated. After all Obama said 57 states. One thing that may have escaped you on the other side of the aisle is the internecine warfare on the right last time. There was no pushback from the right punditry against the left’s description of Palin. That’s not her fault, that’s Noonan and Parker’s job.
For the pundits that weren’t actively dividing the party, there were others who were wringing their hands. There was no projection of confidence or capability. Even Mac himself who promised to fight had to be entreated to do so at rallies. It was a perfect storm.
As a side, the only interview that bothered me was the Couric one, honestly. That looked bad.
Agreed.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM
With such a rich target environment , it’s if like he didn’t want to win. Someone told him how bad it would be and he cut a deal.
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM
That point has been made obvious in the exultation given to McCain (except for during the general election, of course), Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chafee, and Jim Jeffords. Jeffords’s case was the most blatant…a mostly unknown (nationwide, obviously, not in his own state) senator suddenly decides to turn on his own party, and at once he’s the media’s new darling.
Snowed In on January 15, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Thanks for the honesty. I would respectfully submit that, as a Republican, I have little trust in polls by media sources, etc. I would suspect your political affiliation influences your interpretation of sources like the ADN, MSNBC, etc. as mine does. I read that the ADN endorsed Obama, and my antenna goes up on info gathered from there.
From my vantage point, the Republican party has sold out. In trying to gain “moderates,” they have alienated the base and hurt the cause. Reagan didn’t win by running away from conservative philosophies- he made them central to his platform and explained to Reagan Democrats why they were good for the country as a whole.
cs89 on January 15, 2009 at 6:19 PM
oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please
Noneya on January 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Oh shut up.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Comment fail.
Snowed In on January 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Noneya on January 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Be careful what you ask for, sweetheart, you just might get it.
kingsjester on January 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM
The sooner they are extinct, the better!
Noneya on January 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM
I just love it when you talk dirty. It makes me miss ManlyRash.
platypus on January 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM
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