Israel to UN: Oops, our bad
posted at 2:30 pm on January 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Israel shelled a UN compound today and later issued an apology, of sorts. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon that the IDF responded to an attack coming from the UN location. Ban and the UN rejected that explanation:
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says the Israeli army shelled the U.N. complex in Gaza City today because, he told reporters, soldiers “were attacked from there and the response was harsh.”
The shelling set a U.N. warehouse full of food and supplies intended for Palestinians on fire.
Olmert’s office confirmed to ABC News that Olmert talked with U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and told him, “This was a sad incident for which I am sorry but our troops were attacked from there and the reaction was forceful.”
The United Nations had already dismissed the self-defense charge.
Anyone else thinking baby milk factory here? The UN also initially denied that Hamas operated from its UNRWA school in the earlier shelling, but eventually changed its tune after the IDF provided videotape from previous attacks at the school. Israel certainly could have made a mistake — we made a similar mistake in our bombing of Serbia when we struck the Chinese embassy — but I wouldn’t dismiss outright the notion that Hamas launched mortars or rockets from the site.
In better news for the IDF, a senior Hamas figure reached room temperature today:
Israeli Defense Force officials told ABC News that Hamas Interior Minister Said Siam was killed today during an Israeli airstrike on his brothers home in Gaza.
Hamas television is also reporting that Siam was killed in what it says was an air strike that flattened a home in Gaza City. A top aide, Siam’s brother and his brother’s family were also killed, they reported. Siam is considered to be among Hamas’ top five leaders in Gaza.
Thus far, though, Hamas still has enough capability to launch missiles and rockets into Israel. Twenty-one more flew out of Gaza despite the intense IDF pressure, injuring nine Israeli citizens. Hamas doesn’t need to maintain its command and control in the short run to keep the attacks up on Israel. Their units, like most terrorist groups, can operate independently, at least while they still have munitions to use and people to fire them,
Still, if the Israelis can reduce Hamas leadership to dust, it will eventually squeeze the resources out of the terrorist cells. Hamas in Gaza knows this too, which is why they’re getting a lot more interested in that Egyptian cease-fire than their counterparts in Damascus.










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Bombing the U.N. would never be a mistake.
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Goodie! UN should be first priority, Hamas second.
Aristotle on January 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
No tears from me for the rotten moral cesspool that is the UN.
IDF should do all it can to root out these murderous slime wherever they are, not appease them like the morally foolish UN.
Richard Romano on January 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
It’s story such as this that make the dawning of each new day a pleasure.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM
*stories*
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM
When is this site going to enter the 21st century and allow users to edit their posts?
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Anyway that the IDF could direct a cruise missile to Turtle Bay?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Where’s the IDF mistake?
the_nile on January 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Reminds me of how our warplanes “accidentally” bombed the French embassy in Libya after the French refused to allow the planes to fly through their airspace.
Even though the embassy was nowhere near the target grid, we “accidentally” bombed it.
Reagan was awesome. AWESOME.
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM
UN = Liars
mjk on January 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM
The UN is the second terrorist organization that needs to be removed.
grapeknutz on January 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I didn’t know there was any difference between Hamas and the UN. Seems to me a hit on either should be counted as a good shot.
Maxx on January 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM
If only UN HQ wasn’t in NYC. /sarc
katiejane on January 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I think you hit part of the answer here…
IF Israel can degrade Hamas ability to PAY the smugglers for the arms, it will go a long towards solving the Rocket problem…
Hit the tunnels… Get Egypt involved on their side of the border, and make smuggling arms more dangerous, and thus more expensive, and you may not stop the Rockets, but it should slow them down…
But don’t don’t don’t aggree to a ceasefire now… they will only use the time to reorganize and rearm, as they have so many times in the past.
Romeo13 on January 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Ummm. aren’t mortars PORTABLE???
originalpechanga on January 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
They dropped a dragon on his house too, eh?
Neo on January 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Well since the food and supplies would likely have ended up on the black market, being sold by Hamas to finance more weapons to use against Israel, I think Israel’s self-defense explanation is more than adequate.
AZCoyote on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
An attack on the UN is an attack on Hamas.
Yeah, pretty much.
Employees of both are cross-trained in the other organization.
Matrixed.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
You can carry the bags, but it takes time to mix, and your enemy needs to stand still for at least 6 hours for it to really stick.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Like I would be upset if the UN were taken out. One less terrorist haven.
fireweednectar on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Given the UNRWA’s inability to defend food and supplies from Hamas agents, I fail to see what loss this is long-term. Had Hamas attacked directly instead of launching a rocket, Hamas would have gotten all the food and supplies, too.
BKennedy on January 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM
The food and supplies were intended for Palestinians on fire??
rising21 on January 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I’m sure I saw somewhere that there were only three dead from the hit–mostly it is about lost supplies.
What is up with the claims of white phosphorous? Is that just some kind of exaggeration/speculation?
Count to 10 on January 15, 2009 at 2:45 PM
can the IDF bomb the UN in New York too? PLEASE?
SDarchitect on January 15, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I just laughed, heartily and loudly.
Good. Just like when France wouldn’t let us fly over their airspace to bomb Libya in the 80s. Oops, dropped one on the French Embassy.
BUILD A NEW HOUSE, YOU PRICKS!
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
The UN does NOT make mistakes. Oil for food; just propaganda from the JOOOS. Kofi Annan in his early UN days standing by while girls and women in a UN refugee camp were gang raped and the males were murdered, well he apologized for the slip up. Good ol’ Hans Blick not being able to schedule an appointment with Saddam for a WMD vist, no one’s to blame. No, the UN is perfect and we should just hand our government over to them…wait what happens Tuesday?
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
How many here actually think Hamas would allow the UN to reside peacefully in a building, if the UN told them they couldn’t launch weapons from said building?
Anyone? Anyone?
PappaMac on January 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Isn’t it too late for supplies, if the Palestinians are on fire?
lorien1973 on January 15, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Yeah. They should put out the fire first. Or something. Feeding them is secondary.
lorien1973 on January 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Professional Journalists, eh? How about: The shelling set on fire a U.N. warehouse full of food and supplies intended for Palestinians.
or do they mean the food was only for Palestinians on fire?
Either way – Olmert – stick with the strategy wherein you have a spine, it’s working. Attacks, where ever they are launched from, require obliteration of the attackers and their equipment. The rest of the world KNOWS these cowards of Hamas hide under women’s dresses, behind children and in the food storage. Hamas and their brethren are rattlesnakes, don’t let the curled up posture confuse you – they are merely waiting to strike again.
Finish it.
batterup on January 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Or how about when we bombed the Chinese embassy?
jgapinoy on January 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Sam Kinison’s skit on this was hilarious.
lorien1973 on January 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Wake me up when Bush accidentally pushes a button and fires a couple missles at the UN headquarters on his way out. Here’s to hoping!
Grafted on January 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Isn’t it too late for supplies, if the Palestinians are on fire?
lorien1973 on January 15, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Not if the warehouse was full of fire extinguishers and Halon canisters.
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM
There is no excuse for Israel to remain in the UN. In fact, there is no reason that anyone with a brain could possibly support the existence of an empowered, peerless, competitionless entity. That is just sheer stupidity. Doesn’t anyone study evolutionary theory? Isn’t there any common sense left?
And I place the major blame for the empowerment of the UN on Bush Sr. who, like a total fool, went out of his way to empower that very dangerous organization as the USSR disappeared, giving away US sovereignty at the same time – and all to do a half-azzed job in Iraq. That move to empower the UN as the USSR fell will be seen as one of the dumbest, and most dangerous, moves in all of human history.
progressoverpeace on January 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Perhaps the fire extinguishers caught on fire.
Oh well.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Shoot, bishop beat me too it.
You can’t beat the bishop.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Ditto..
They SAY mistake….
CynicalOptimist on January 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM
The UN is Hamas. Or at least the political equivalent.
spmat on January 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM
You can’t beat the bishop.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
I have God on my side.
I will be happy to sell you an indulgence though, send $100 to my PayPal account and you get first dibs on movie quotes.
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 3:01 PM
With a little luck we may still read headlines where the Israelis surround that Gaza hospital and “invade” the basement killing everyone with weapons that tries to escape.
patrick neid on January 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM
+5
rbj on January 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM
at least while they still have munitions to use and people to fire them,
Exactly why Israel must not relent. Kill the bad guys and break their toys = peace. Quit before the job is done = renewed attacks at a later date. This applies to more than Hamas.
SKYFOX on January 15, 2009 at 3:07 PM
What a man does in the shower is his own business.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Oops, the Israelis bombed a UN building, and Zawahiri was found dead inside. Oopsies. (wishful thinking!)
Steve Z on January 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM
A cheap alternative to diplomacy is killing everything that gives you the hairy eyeball.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Hamas can always ask Cynthia McKinney for another supply run.
Why isn’t the damage/casualties to Israel caused by Hamas’ rockets being reported?
RMCS_USN on January 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Much more than Hamas. It’s been one long war that Israel refuses to win.
1948 (almost lost)
1956
1967
1973 (almost lost)
1982
1990′s extended war comes inside, first intifada – terrorism in Israeli cities on a regular basis, establishment of new organized enemies on Israel’s border
2000′s second intifada, much increased bombings in Israeli cities, Lebanon/Gaza, Gaza, existential nuke threat from Iran materializes
Given enough chances, the arab/persian/muslim enemies will eventually win.
progressoverpeace on January 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Dear U.N.,
Sorry to hear that your source of blackmarket goods went up in smoke. It is a sign of our times, I guess, when crooks like you can’t make a living.
Limerick on January 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM
What a man does in the shower is his own business.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Bwaaaaaaaa! Hey!
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Not if the Democrats find out, they’ll probably start taxing it.
Headline: Obama Finds New Revenue Stream, Predicts Huge Spurt in Collections
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Considering how much the U.S. pays for everything the U.N. does, I suppose it’s only proper that the IDF used American made bombs dropped from American made planes to destroy the warehouse.
Bishop on January 15, 2009 at 3:16 PM
When has the U.N. ever had Isreal’s best interest at heart?
U.N. / Hamas ~
Neither have validity on the face of the Earth!
rightwingmom on January 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Saw this on AOS, (kudos to Fernandozer) and it is apropos:
Whenever a terrorist goes BOOM, an angel gets its wings.
J.J. Sefton on January 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Preemptive PR ? I hate them..HATE them!
beththebaker on January 15, 2009 at 3:21 PM
First thing I thought of.
Christ, how I wish he was alive today.
MadisonConservative on January 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Interestingly, the Israeli military refused to apologize for the strike, but the politician was willing. I sense a softening of political resolve. http://muqata.blogspot.com/
See the 4:26PM entry.
a capella on January 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Um….it was a refugee camp.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Awwww, that’s too bad.
Perhaps you should get on the Hamas message board and advise them to not fire missiles around women and children.
I’m sure they’ll thank you for your advice.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM
You mean it was nothing but a bunch of tents and stuff? Really?
P.S. Everything there is a “refugee camp”, as far as the idiots (you) are concerned.
progressoverpeace on January 15, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Carl in Jerusalem also has a good rundown on the various agendas and infighting amongst the top three political candidates regarding the action. See his entry titled Olmert the hawk?
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/
a capella on January 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM
DeathtoLiberalTrolls,
You can call it whatever you want, but Hamas terrorists set up rocket launching operations in and around residential neighborhoods, medical facilities, government buildings of every kind – all with the clear intention of fighting a propaganda war by hoping to produce civilian deaths for their pale-wood ministries.
It’s tragic and scandalous, but nitwit liberals like you and terrorist-coddling NGOs and dupes like the UN somehow fail to grasp or acknowledge the crime. Instead, you whine about the IDF. GFY.
Jaibones on January 15, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Here is a little two on two, Israeli vs. Muslims. Watch the Israeli Officer grab the Mohammedan and use him as a human shield against the Muhammedans own grenade. Priceless...
BL@KBIRD on January 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM
A diplomat is an honest man sent abroad to lie and intrigue for his country. When he stays home, he’s a politician. Israel can “apologize” all it likes, so long as it keeps up the attack. “I’m sorry that the UN was so evil, so incompetent, or so stupid as to let Hamas use its warehouse as a weapons emplacement, and too dishonest to admit it.”
njcommuter on January 15, 2009 at 3:56 PM
LOL. The tunnels are just for food and the mosques just for worship, right?
a capella on January 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM
I forgot about that, it was awesome…the perfect “touche”…
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 4:10 PM
White Phosphorous is used to generate smoke. The “anti-war” (read: pro-enemy) types like to claim that it’s being used as an offensive weapon. The fragments do burn very hot and can cause casualities, but that’s just a
n unfortunate side effectbonus.Hollowpoint on January 15, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Israel knows the enemy.
Ronnie on January 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM
This is war. When the enemy starts lobbing mortars at you, sending in a team of housing inspectors armed with clipboards to make sure the area doesn’t have any civilians in it before taking it out really isn’t an option.
The blame lies soley with Hamas for intentionally firing from civilian compounds. They do it knowing that Israel is sensitive to civilian losses, and that any civilian casualties that do result can be used to serve their propaganda purposes.
While Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties, Hamas is doing all they can to get more civilians killed.
Hollowpoint on January 15, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Good explanation, but DeathTo is about the most useful idiot I know, so I’m sure it won’t make a dent in the cement.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I’m not sure how useful to anyone this particular idiot is…
But yeah- to the pro-terrorist crowd, Israel can do no right and Hamas can do no wrong. Logic and common sense do not apply.
Hollowpoint on January 15, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Hamas owes its very existence to useful idiot western liberals.
Without useful idiot western liberals, Hamas would have never got off of the ground.
Before there were western liberals, a weak group of people who launched a missile at a militarily strong country, would get slapped so hard they’d starve to death rolling.
Would never have crossed their mind.
But presto, western liberals have given us a state of eternal war, in their dopey pursuit of an unattainable, John Lennon type peace.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I sure hope that the Damascus Hamas compound doesn’t get hit with one of those “errant” missiles.
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Everyone makes mistakes.
That’s why pencils have erasers.
NoDonkey on January 15, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Those darn krauts never could follow a map.
Johan Klaus on January 15, 2009 at 4:42 PM
“Imagine” that.
Johan Klaus on January 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I was reading about the in-fighting of the Israeli government last night and today(Israeli cool is also a good site for real information regarding this conflict)and was getting nervous that Israel may let Hamas off the hook.
Olmert seems to be totally against letting up (due to his failure in Lebanon) and the Israeli people back this operation by as much as 94%.
Terrorist appeasement from liberals and their friends in the media is not going to work this time.
I think the Israeli leadership knows that the best scenario
is the total defeat of Hamas.
This is the only real way to stop the terrorist from attacking them day after day.The UN and liberal appeasement policies have been absolute failures.
If you want to see real change,look where dictators and terrorist have been taken out with force,not back rubs and negotiations.
In-fighting in the Israeli government is not reassuring,but
with the overwhelming majority of that country supporting the decimation of hamas,I think they will stay strong and do the right thing.
Baxter Greene on January 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Good post…
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Shh, he’s on a roll!
Agreed. The fact that Israel is expected to let its civilians be continually harried by rockets, without any response other than surrender, overwhelms me.
If you believe in Christian eschatology (last days stuff), one of the main events that kicks off the seven year Great Tribulation – where God gives the world up to its wickedness and then judges it through various events, culminating with Christ’s return after the battle of Armageddon – is Israel’s initial acceptance of a politician who somehow manages to bring “peace” to their land.
So each time the Israelis accept the premise that they must surrender for “peace”, I wonder if we are one step closer to those end-time events.
And I wonder at how far the mighty have fallen, if Israel continually accepts without question the premise that it is the only country on the planet that isn’t allowed to defend itself, or its people, no matter what its enemies do to it.
Wanderlust on January 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM
They also have seen what happens when a country loses it’s will to fight, and began pointing fingers, rather then just going in and doing the job…we were a prime example of how not to conduct a war politically…
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Keep up the good work!
saiga on January 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Oh, and one more thing: anyone who doubts that removing personnel from an organisation is a good strategy should ask themselves one question: since 2006, when al-Queda’s C3 (command, control, and communications) personnel infrastructure has been decimated, how many large-scale attacks has that group been able to successfully execute?
To my knowledge, the attack in India a few weeks ago was the only one, and that one went as far as it did only because the security structure of that city was hopelessly inept at putting the crisis down when it first began.
Take out the personnel who run the C3 infrastructure, and you take out the organisation’s ability to plan and execute its strategy.
I recently saw a poster from the NGO, CARE, that had a lovely scene of kids in Africa and the words, “The Will To Care” at the bottom.
When I saw this poster, I realised it was missing one image in the illustration: a 7.62mm sniper’s bullet.
(waits for the trolls to go nuts)
If one truly “cares” about a downtrodden population, one does not keep throwing good money after bad, which allows a corrupt government to remain in power. One decapitates the C3 structure of that government, one head at a time, with a 7.62mm round aimed at the base of the neck (drops the target like a sack of flour; he doesn’t ever realise what hit him). While one drops his C3 infrastructure, one works with the citizenry to rebuild the government into something that represents the will of the people. And one commits to this process for at least a decade if one is serious about doing such work.
The reason for doing anything like this is, as part of the Bush Doctrine recognises, is that a country or nation-state that does not have a government strong enough to enforce the rule of law on its lands and population is a country that quickly becomes a haven for terrorists and terrorist groups.
In a post-Cold War world, if we want to be safe, we are forced to “care”.
One 7.62mm round at a time.
The consequence for doing nothing was proven during the 1990′s by the Clinton administration, culminating in the attack on 9/11.
And as they say, “past is prologue”.
Wanderlust on January 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM
If one truly “cares” about a downtrodden population, one does not keep throwing good money after bad, which allows a corrupt government to remain in power. One decapitates the
To clarify: “one” in this comment is presumably the US Government, not a private entity of any kind.
Wanderlust on January 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Excellent point.
Israel does not have the luxury of pissing around with Hamas/Hizbollah/Iran like the liberals and their friends in the press want them to.
You can either confront and take decisive action against terrorist and dictators,annihilate them and let Freedom
Reign.(Iraq,Afghanistan,Germany,Japan to name a few)
or
You can run around waving the peace sign,making clever bumper stickers,giving speeches at the UN,and telling everybody how “smart” you are while the massacres continue.
(Darfur,Rwanda,Burma to name a few)
Baxter Greene on January 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I prefer the fifty cal..
Johan Klaus on January 15, 2009 at 5:30 PM
And kum ba yah.
Johan Klaus on January 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Why? Mercenary forces in Sierra Leone brought a great deal of stability and peace, at a very low cost. When the UN demanded that they be kicked out, in favor of “UN forces”, all hell broke loose and people started getting hacked up, again – and for ten times the price, too!
progressoverpeace on January 15, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Technical question. I’ve noticed a lot of the IDF guys wearing some kind of shapeless, floppy, gray or brown cloth hair net type thing over their helmets. Is that to break the sharp, head outline when peering over the top of something?
a capella on January 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM
The bombing of the Chinese embassy was due to someone having the wrong set of maps (iirc). If Israel were responding to mortar fire then presumably they were going by electronic equipment and not an outdated map.
aengus on January 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM
So you think that was deliberate? I never heard that before. Do you think the bombing of the Chinese embassy was deliberate?
aengus on January 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Wikipedia says:
If the French embassy was struck then why is the ‘accidential’ bombing described as a “near miss”?
aengus on January 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM
a capella on January 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM –
It is called a Mitznefet, issued to infantry troops and designed for use in open terrain, breaks up the silhouette of the upper body and head. So, yes, it can be useful when peering around cover. Looks really strange, like a Rastafarian knit cap gone wild…but apparently, the IDF believes it works.
coldwarrior on January 15, 2009 at 6:27 PM
America helped form this organization some years ago to keep peace and freedom in the world after WWII, but it grew into something different and counterproductive. Today, the U.N. is anti-American and anti-Israel. Just a fact, Jack. It no longer serves a positive purpose. Reasonable people I think would deduct that it’s time for America to get out and start a new organizaton with like-minded nations similar to the U.N. only different. We just need a leader(s) to spearhead this movement and do it. Thank you.
apacalyps on January 15, 2009 at 8:03 PM
apacalyps,
How are you buddy?
I think it’d be better to get rid of the UN and not put anything in its place. If the League of Nations and the United Nations became divorced from their original purpose then why would a League of Deomcracies fare any better? Countries could still hold conferences together but without an artificial bureaucracy overseeing everything.
aengus on January 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Well, it wasn’t really designed to do much of anything. People were just wed to the idea of the League of Nations (even though it was shown to be an unmitigated disaster) and wanted some continuity after WWII. But no one took the UN seriously for much of anything, and then the Cold War started and made the UN nothing but a small utopian joke. That’s what kept the UN essentially harmless and allowed it to live. If there had been no COld War, the UN would have died back in the 60′s.
Not at all. It grew into what everyone knew it would grow into, as any empowered, peerless, competitionless entity grows. The saving grace was that the UN wasn’t empowered … until Bush Sr. gave up US sovereignty to empower it after the USSR fell. That was one of the dumbest moves in history.
No question about that.
As I said, it never did. It was never meant to be anything serious. That people take it seriously, nowadays, is just a testament to rampant stupidity.
Not at all. Never empower any organization without peers or competition. That will always end up very badly. We have treaties with countries we want to deal with. We don’t need any permanent housing for the useless of the world. If people want a communication channel, then fine. But, frankly, there’s no need for any “organization” for that.
progressoverpeace on January 15, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Messy. 7.62mm leaves little mess, and presumably has a lower carbon footprint (/sarc).
IMHO the armed part is only the tip of the iceberg. There are some multinationals that on their own could afford to pull off a mercenary action, but without the admin function that the US would do afterwards, all that results is a far worse power vacuum, of which even more terrorists and thugs would pile in to fill.
Aside from the fact that the US Govt (the saner parts of it, at least) recognises a far greater national security burden than the rest of the world – for better or for worse – there are only two other countries that could pull off a regime change invasion and subsequent occupation. Neither of those countries, however, would act in anyone else’s interests but their own. The last time one of those countries was in their own regime change business, we called it the Cold War and paid a gazillion dollars to fight it.
As for the example you cited, I’d be interested to know who was ultimately paying the invoices for that mercenary force. My bet is that the other end of the money trail terminated in Bejing.
The UN and its vaunted blue hats are nothing more than parasites who feast off the corpses of innocents across the globe. Now that their man will become POTUS next week, every one of those whores will be partying till they drop on the 20th. Ditto with the sellouts in Foggy Bottom.
Wanderlust on January 15, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I suspect two entities keep the UN in business, on our end: the spooks (who see a central meeting place, located on US soil, as an eavesdropping bonanza) and Foggy Bottom (who are perpetual political whores in search of their own version of the Chicken Ranch).
The UN at best is designed to be ineffectual, as you said earlier. Bush 41 demonstrated Kennedyesque weakness by ceding legitimacy to the UN after the Cold War, and the Left seized that power shift as a means to leverage something against the US Govt. By comparison, though, Obambi will prostrate us all before Turtle Bay. When that happens, look out…
Wanderlust on January 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM
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