Breaking: FISA court will rule warrantless surveillance legal
posted at 1:10 pm on January 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Hmmm. This should really enrage the Left. The FISA court will make public a ruling that validates George Bush’s warrantless surveillance on international communications, including those with one terminus in the United States (via JWF):
A federal intelligence court, in a rare public opinion, is expected to issue a major ruling validating the power of the president and Congress to wiretap international phone calls and intercept e-mail messages without a court order, even when Americans’ private communications may be involved, according to a person with knowledge of the opinion.
The court decision, made in December by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, is expected to be disclosed as early as Thursday in an unclassified, redacted form, the person said. The review court has issued only two other rulings in its 30-year history.
The decision marks the first time since the disclosure of the National Security Agency’s warrantless eavesdropping program three years ago that an appellate court has addressed the constitutionality of the federal government’s wiretapping powers. In validating the government’s wide authority to collect foreign intelligence, it may offer legal credence to the Bush administration’s repeated assertions that the president has constitutional authority to act without specific court approval in ordering national security eavesdropping.
The appeals court is expected to uphold a secret ruling issued last year by the intelligence court that it oversees, known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, or FISA, court. In that initial opinion, the secret court found that Congress had acted within its authority in August of 2007 when it passed a hotly debated law known as the Protect America Act, which gave the executive branch broad power to eavesdrop on international communications, according to the person familiar with the ruling.
It comes a little late, years after the New York Times exposed the national security program and made it much more difficult for the US to conduct its surveillance. The biggest beneficiaries will be the telecommunications companies that cooperated with the NSA to protect the country. Congress had to pass special legislation last year to clarify the FISA laws and to provide some immunity for the telecoms to keep them from being raided by lawyers intent on penalizing them for millions in nuisance lawsuits.
Ironically, though, the FISA court case originated from a telecom that didn’t want to allow the NSA access to its information. The FISA court ruled that the executive branch had the authority under then-current FISA legislation as well as other Congressional action in the Protect America Act. While the ruling does not directly reference the Terrorist Surveillance Program — at least according to the Times — the ruling on the scope of authority invested in the executive relates directly to that program.
Barack Obama initially opposed the TSP and the FISA update, but later switched and voted for it. He promised to review the language once he took office, but now it appears unnecessary. In a way, this benefits him as well, since he has both an excuse for doing nothing and the power to continue the program.
In the end, though, the biggest beneficiary should be George Bush. He has been unfairly castigated as some sort of fascist for using the power he already had available to track terrorist communications and keep this nation safe. Plenty of people owe him a big apology — and the New York Times and Eric Lichtblau are first in line.
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HA!
Skywise on January 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Obama will be doing it; so the left will be cool with it.
Why do you think anything other than the R mattered.
lorien1973 on January 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM
“One small step for mankind”!!!
bucko36 on January 15, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Good news from the courts? I’m shocked
thecollegepolitico on January 15, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Let’s try the FISA court for treason along with BOOOOSH! It was completely illegal and unethical to wiretap these differently ethosed freedom fighters without their expressed written consent, a urine sample from their cell leaders, a blessing from their mullahs, and a hand-job for the ACLU.
Thank you President Bush and Vice President Chaney for keeping my family safe for seven years. Your willingness to make tough decisions.
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM
The judges in that court must have forgotten to take their meds that day.
kirkill on January 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Thank you President Bush and Vice President Chaney for keeping my family safe for seven years. Your willingness to make tough decisions in the face of threats and criticism makes you both heroes in my book. Bless you both.
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM
So if I phone my uncle – Jihadi Al’Jihadi – will I be able to freely tell him that Prez Elect Obama is “da bomb” without worrying about black helicopters?
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM
…..And in other news, several swarms of locusts have descended on Washington, D.C.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Yeah don’t hold your breath waiting for that. Besides does anybody read the Times anymore.
MDWNJ on January 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM
I don’t care who gets the credit or if Bush is vindicated or not. What matters is this — Obama is going to need this power so I’m glad he’ll have it.
The apologies from Lichtblau, NYT et al.? Not gonna happen. And I don’t care. It’s all of a piece going all the way back to Walter Duranty.
Mr. D on January 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Indeed, but I’m not holding my breath.
Blacksheep on January 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM
(As an aside, whenever I see Obama referred to as PEBO, I can’t help but think of this, and wonder about the resemblance)
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM
And if the Left isn’t down with that, I’ve got two words for them – Sierra India.
steveegg on January 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Too little, too late – at least for the GOP. Had this ruling come out a year ago one of the democrats favorite batting clubs would have been taken away. The way things are shaking out in the country leaves me feeling that republicans and conservatives (conservatives mostly) have been set-up all along. Maybe the conspiracy theories of One World Order are right?!
KickandSwimMom on January 15, 2009 at 1:26 PM
All that hyperventilating must feel pretty stupid right about now.
Chuck Schick on January 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM
This will be a continuing pattern going forward. The MSM, Dems etc really had no problem with anything the Bush team did. Their sole objection was that BUSH was doing them. Had it been Gore or Kerry they would have spun the same stories in the opposite direction while applauding the Dems leadership in protecting America.
Many of us said months ago that should a Dem win the election there would, as a silver lining, be a refreshing change by the MSM etc in war/terror coverage such that they would high light the benefits.
Wire taps, Guantanamo, Bush team carryovers are just the start.
patrick neid on January 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM
When Obama F’s it all up, with the masturbatory assistance of his fellating cohorts in Congress, the terrorists will most likely target high population areas – which typically vote democrat – with an almost zen-like poetry.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Man, if they intercepted my phone calls and e-mails (let alone my blog posts) they’d be sooo bored.
Bob's Kid on January 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM
+1 LOL
Conservative_SAHM on January 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Remember that the left opposed all of Truman’s national security policies in response to Stalin’s aggression.
And then 60 years later we all celebrate Truman’s courage and steadfastness in standing up to the Soviets.
We’re going to see the same thing. Bush’s actions will be vindicated by history and future presidents will be using his actions to expand their defense of the country from the Islamists.
Including President Obama.
Oh yeah: Keith Olbermann can shove it.
SteveMG on January 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM
That doesn’t make me feel zen like (look at the handle), and I HATE all poetry except for dirty limricks. I do however, hope that Changey grows boils on his sphincter
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 1:36 PM
How about not trying to sound like a 14-year old?
Pathetic.
SteveMG on January 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Suck it?
BadgerHawk on January 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM
We aren’t completely bonkers as a nation after all, we do have the power to surveil foreign elements inimical to our country. Imagine that.
Tark on January 15, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Ahhh… but in Socialist Amerika, we do not have Black Helicoptors… the new Thought Police..er… Happy Happy Joy Joy Facilitators fly in pretty Rainbow colored ones…
/sarc… maybe…
Romeo13 on January 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Just in time for Obama
JIMV on January 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Democrat in the White House….fluid exchange is par for the course in the Oval Office.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Heh… the leftist sites all look like the nazis in the opening of the ark scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark…
Skywise on January 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM
You laugh, but did you see what the rainbow crowd in Calimexico are doing….there is a website, where you can find the name, address, and occupation of those that gave funds to fight Prop. 8…….
How long before they start with registered Repubs…enemies of the state….
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Sounding like a conservative version of Bill Maher isn’t very effective.
SteveMG on January 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM
“Something that would have been helpful YESTERDAY!!!”
CP on January 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Thats why the …. maybe… is on there…
Romeo13 on January 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Scary, huh, Romeo.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Take a pill, Tipper.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I tried to tell left tards wayyy back when this flap first started that their god FDR did the exact same thing during WWII. Of course, the tards couldn’t fathom such a thing with partisan blinders and earplugs firmly attached.
BDS sufferers continue to SUFFER!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
44Magnum on January 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Goes further and further… if this does not make it to the Supremes…
Eric Holder, who advocates the Feds having a database of ALL gun owners, can convince Bambi to invoke an Executive Order calling this a National Emergency… and there are SECRECT Executive Orders… thus allowing them to eavesdrop looking for anything about guns…
Orrr…. if CO2 is declared a pollutant, as Bambi can do by Executive Order, and then he declares the Global Warming is a National Emergency?
People don’t really understand the Power the President if he is unchecked by Congress…
Romeo13 on January 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Poo face
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM
One of many successes the Bush administration will benefit from as the months unfold.
It will be shown as one of the most honorable administrations in the past 40 years.
Yes, he made mistakes, but always with the best interest and law behind him.
right2bright on January 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM
That is a very scary observation. But I fear you are right, and McCain is a big part of it with his touchey-feely way of cowering to the left. It’s part of the indoctrination process. Lull them to sleep and slip it to them nice and easy, they’ll never notice until it’s too late.
R D on January 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM
First in line to go to jail…IMHO :-) ~B
Brian on January 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Sure, right after he gives back his Pulitzer. This is tasty enough to wash down the Times’ impending bankruptcy. Karma, beyotches!
Kid from Brooklyn on January 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM
As of January 20, 2009, Lefty hearts Big Brother.
/
Christien on January 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Good guys win one…
Probably our last win for a long, long time…
The Messiah cometh…
Mark Garnett on January 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM
RACIST!!
PappaMac on January 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM
The resemblence in the ears is uncanny!
loudmouth883 on January 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM
And shucks golly gee whiz, whadayaknow, at long last the ruling finally comes out after Obarfy is elected.
fogw on January 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Heck, what isn’t these days? Might as well shit yer pants, dive in and swim.
(name that quote)
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:10 PM
The left kept portraying GWB as a monkey, curious george etc, so I nominate Pob as Obama’s official characature.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM
James Risen and that ass at DOJ who leaked it admitting he had no knowledge of the operational details or how it worked — at all.
No whistleblower status for you David.
Topsecretk9 on January 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Holding breath, turning deep blue, passing out.
johnsteele on January 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM
I see the children have gotten hold of their parent’s computer.
They need to put a lock on these darn things.
I recall the classiness of Buckley leading me to conservatism. It was the liberal/left that wallowed in the coarse language. For coarse language came from coarse thinking. Thinking that led to coarse policies.
Unfortunately, Mr. Buckley is no longer around to show what class meant.
SteveMG on January 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM
How about this visual
PappaMac on January 15, 2009 at 2:18 PM
I question the timing.
/sarc
cs89 on January 15, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Yawn
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Today is a sad day for civil liberties of terrorists.
Xrlq on January 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Well of course the surveillance is legal! It has never been our law that the government must have a warrant every time it searches someone. Exceptions to the warrant requirement are numerous. Been to an airport lately? If so, you were searched — not only without a warrant, but also without even probable cause.
paul006 on January 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
OOPS…http://www.sockmonkey.com/<a
PappaMac on January 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
What did he know and when did he know it?
What did he know and when did he know it?
What did he know and when did he know it?
That’s what obfuscates!
(to the tune of “It ain’t what you do it’s the way that you do it”)
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
They can’t just say it; they can’t say it does offer legal credence. Regardless of whether you agree with the decision, there is no doubt that the decision itself does, in fact, offer credence to Bush’s position. How could a judicial decision, even one that is eventually over-ruled, not offer credence to someone’s position.
RedSoxNation on January 15, 2009 at 2:29 PM
IN his farewell speech tonight, Dubya should look at the camera and say, “And for those of you who thought that the warrantless surveillance that we were performing was illegal: Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah. So there.”
kingsjester on January 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
RedSoxNation on January 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Tipper Gore and the PMRC rise again, Limey…
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I just hope the dingus doesn’t read my postings backwards, or he’ll be a crack-whore before dusk.
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I wish he would try to set the record straight. But when he mentions the idiot’s claims and conspiracy theories, some think that this elevates the charges, and that he shouldn’t even mention them. I agree. But still, I’d like if somehow he could set the record straight.
Andrew Roberts did an excellent job in this regard. It works much better in print that how I think speaking on camera can do.
wise_man on January 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Like that’s goint to happen.
lionheart on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
So now when the Obamameister does it the Left will be able to say not only that it’s Bush’s fault that he had to do it but they can also say “It’s legal.”
katiejane on January 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
There are warrants, they’ve just been misfiled by the clerks.
htom on January 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
They’re probably in the back of Al Franken’s car
LimeyGeek on January 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM
ROFLMAO
Laura in Maryland on January 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM
You can make a constitutional case that the FISA courts themselves are Unconstitutional and the POTUS has the inherent authority in the constitution to do this stuff in National Security area with out running to a secret court.
it was done so here, in a debate at the Federalist Society:
http://www.fed-soc.org/debates/dbtid.13/default.asp
lots of Founding father examples to site as well.
jp on January 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM
actually, we should make an effort to call out Eric Lichtblau publicly on this, O’Reily should attempt to get his sorry butt on tv.
and THEN, they need to point out the dangers this report put the country in.
jp on January 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Those sounds you hear are crickets mixed in with files being closed for several “Bush is a war criminal” investigations.
Watch for the NYT to come out with the “legal doesn’t mean it is right” explanation for their actions.
Mallard T. Drake on January 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM
don’t forget the far-right/anarchist crazies: i.e. paultards
jp on January 15, 2009 at 3:01 PM
I don’t know why I ever thought the Democrats were somehow interested in bi-partisanship, now or ever.
When Bush does it, its bad. When Obama does it, its good.
What the heck are we coming to.
Ryan Gandy on January 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Socialist Amerika led by dear leader.
HornetSting on January 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM
No, not really. Oh, the rabble rousers will make a little noise, but the only thing the Left was enraged about was Bush.
Asher on January 15, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Of course, Hussein will do the same, but on political enemies, just like Clinton and the FBI files.
madmonkphotog on January 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Amazing how much the democrats put Americans in danger for personal agenda, or hate for President Bush.
Wait for that 6 month “test” Joe was talking about.
christene on January 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Another “DUMBA$$ LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY” bites the dust.
Baxter Greene on January 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Good news. I’ll take it when I can get it.
Yakko77 on January 15, 2009 at 7:05 PM
The New York Slimes have done insurmountable damage to our government and country. I can’t wait for the day when this aiding and abetting our enemies news paper is padlocked, and
it’s staff and management are frog marched to GITMO.
byteshredder on January 15, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Yes!
DL13 on January 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Ed, would you be lining up to apologize to gun control activists if the Supreme Court were to rule that the Second Amendment doesn’t protect individual ownership of guns?
Amazing how the Right has moved from “we don’t don’t torture” to “torture is necessary!” and from “we don’t spy illegally” to “all spying is legal, so it’s fine!”
Mark Jaquith on January 15, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Missed this part!
Purely a hypothetical risk, to be sure! Power corrupts, absolutely, unless you’re a friend of our heroic father-leader Bush, who is a Good Person™ and thus beyond reproach in everything he does in the name of keeping us safe.
Whoever in the court said this would have flunked fifth grade civics class. Our entire government is structured to defend against the inevitability of abuse of power. Checks and balances are in place to prevent any one branch of government from getting too much power — say the power to spy on Americans for any reason, without having to justify each instance of spying to anyone outside of their circle of friends.
Mark Jaquith on January 15, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Ah, so they’re only talking about the legality of the 2007 Protect America Act that Congress passed… not Bush’s unilateral spying without Congressional approval from 2001 until the passing of the Protect America Act.
This doesn’t validate Bush at all. It has no bearing on anything that happened before the Protect America Act passed in 2007.
Mark Jaquith on January 16, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Astroturfer?
ex-Democrat on January 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
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