Hot Air Mobile
Home The Vault Gear About
Hot Air -- get your fill


New Jersey child services seizes boy named after Hitler from parents

posted at 12:50 pm on January 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
Share on Facebook | printer-friendly

No word on the cause, but it can’t be because of the names. Can it?

Holland Township Police Sgt. John Harris says he was there to keep order Tuesday when workers from the state Division of Youth and Family Services removed 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell.

Harris says DYFS did not tell police the reason the children were removed. At least one officer who helped take the kids out of the house said they did not show outward signs of abuse or neglect.

Listen to the audio at the link and you’ll hear one of the cops say the kids were “happy” and playing when they got there. The state statute defines child cruelty to include the infliction of “unnecessary suffering or pain, either mental or physical” — like naming a kid after Hitler? — but it also defines “child abuse” to include, er, the habitual use of profanity. (Yes, really.) I poked around to find a Supreme Court precedent that’s on point, but the truth is you don’t need it: If being a Nazi sympathizer is grounds per se for having your parental custody terminated, then as a practical matter, Nazis aren’t allowed to have families in America. And as far as I know, the right to privacy means that everyone’s allowed to have a family in America. Exit question: Did they trump up some other grounds as a pretext? Too much cussin’ by dad, maybe?


Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3

Since when is being an idiot illegal?

ahem on January 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Remember, the Nazis were socialists. Maybe we should take kids away from all the socialists and teach them good old fashioned American values such as hard work, thrift and personal responsibility.

rbj on January 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

but it also defines “child abuse” to include, er, the habitual use of profanity.

If, by 4 years old, your child doesn’t understand the proper context of the F-word and when to use it, then you, as a parent, aren’t doing your job.

IMHO, of course.

lorien1973 on January 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Oh, please, I really don’t want to be put in a position to have to defend these people.

Quisp on January 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

When does being a Republican start being a disqualifying trait when it comes to the priviledge of having a family?

In Britain, you can’t adopt if you are too fat.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Oh, please, I really don’t want to be put in a position to have to defend these people.

Quisp on January 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Welcome to life in the real world. Where even people that we don’t like, have rights.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

The audio clip mentions the parents have been harrassed and threatened since the cake incident so perhaps it’s a pre-emptive measure for the kid’s safety?

tru2tx on January 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

What if you name your child “Muhammed”.

the_nile on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

America, land of the free and home of the brave, is near death.

TheBigOldDog on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

They shoulda named him Sue

DarkCurrent on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Just when its bad enough, the government shows up and does something worse.

Speakup on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

This has to be more than just the name. Lots of people name their kids silly things. They didn’t take Zappa’s kids away after naming them Moon Unit and Dweezil…

JetBoy on January 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Lawsuit.

BadgerHawk on January 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

There is not greater gift a parent can give to a child than committing him to a FBI watch list from the day he is born !

runner on January 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

What if you name your child “Muhammed”.

the_nile on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

You can name your kid after the Prophet, just not a teddy bear.

Then you’ll get stoned.

And not feel good kind of stoned, either.

loudmouth883 on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

While I would surmise that the charges are a bit trumped up (and probably arose out of the stupid lawsuit they are bringing against the grocery store)…

…I also think that if we’re going to call it child abuse when we see those picture of children in the Middle East being indoctrinated to hate Jews and to love killing them and blowing themselves up…

…then shouldn’t we ALSO consider it child abuse to raise children to love and emulate one of the most evil men (and governmental systems) the world has ever seen?

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Welcome to life in the real world. Where even people that we don’t like, have rights.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Something to remember…

JetBoy on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

OK-I am not surprised that social services would take a child from people for no reason. They do it all the time, violating people’s constitutional rights without the bat of an eye.
Family Courts & all of their parasitic agencies have been given power they have no right to have.
On the flip side-I am amazed it happened to these people. Where is the ACLU?! How could Obama let this happen?!
/sarc

Badger40 on January 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Yeah, lawsuit… I was just gonna say that this couple is gonna be awfully rich when their suit gets settled.

BTW: Where is the ACLU? You’d think that with their hatred of all things Jewish that they’d have a frikkin’ plane load of attorneys parachuting into the area to plaster it with briefs and restraining orders.

AW1 Tim on January 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I had a nasty feeling this would happen.

Unless there really are solid grounds to suspect abuse, the parents need to sue the living shit out of these police-state fascists.

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The parents are idiots, sure. That doesn’t excuse taking the children.

I don’t even think that judge from New Zealand took the child with the four word name away from her parents.

This is disgusting. Where the heck is our freedom going?

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Am I the only one finding usage of Autoritarian methods on Nazi wannabes utterly amusing?

Aristotle on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Let’s face it, naming a kid Adolph Hitler will absolutely guarantee this kid is beaten up every day at school, and will never be able to get a job. If that isn’t unnecessary mental suffering or pain, I don’t know what is.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

It doesn’t appear that they thought this through.

kirkill on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

As a former Jerseyite I say who cares? A wanna-be Nazi living in a Fascist state butting heads with some socialist bureaucrat.

Reap what you sow Blue staters.

Rob Taylor on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Lots of people name their kids silly things. They didn’t take Zappa’s kids away after naming them Moon Unit and Dweezil…

JetBoy on January 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Not to mention all the retarded faux’frican names that many black kids are saddled with.

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Aristotle on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Looks like you are.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

So will naming your kid “Sex Fruit” or “Charm Raindrops Out The Butt.” That hasn’t stopped people before, thinking they’re bequeathing some sort of massive gift of individuality to their offspring and instead setting them up to slit their wrists at an early age.

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I can’t believe a guy like this would abuse his children. There has to be an explanation.

LibTired on January 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

What if you name your child “Muhammed”.

the_nile on January 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM

FTW

regal on January 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Exit question: Did they trump up some other grounds as a pretext? Too much cussin’ by dad, maybe?

The state statute on habitual profanity is in violation of the First Amendment in the first place, thus that state statute is illegal. Besides, I see a definition of Custodian and Parent in the Statute, but don’t see what is explicitly defined as “Profane” or “Obscene” language.

This being the case, with such a regulation in place, in all reality, every parent of any child in New Jersey (to include Senator Robert Mendez) that has ever been inside of a public high school for more than 1 day should have their kids taken away from them, due to the habitual use of “profane” language by schoolchildren.

Nanny state. F*** New Jersey.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM

This is disgusting. Where the heck is our freedom going?

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Let me discuss a general point:

Should we have the right to royally screw up our kids? To indoctrinate them into hate and crime such that they grow up to be a thorn and burden to society?

Now, the reason I want to make this a general discussion is because the reality is that I would not ever want the government to decide what is ’screwing up’ our kids (e.g. everyone who denies that humans caused global warming, or who voted against Obama might have their kids taken away from them)

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I cannot defend what the parents have done. It is a depraved act. And yet I cannot justify taking the children away on those grounds. Now, if the parents are shown to be involved with a criminal organization, involved, not just on a mailing list, criminal, not just depraved, then I can justify it.

To quote a character in a poem by Phyllis McGinley “Intolerance, ma’am, is a state/No tolerant man can tolerate.” (The poem appeared on my NYS Regents English exam. I don’t think it could appear today.)

This is not to say that the family does not bear watching, especially if they are home-schooling (within their rights, I still hold, so long as the child can pass the standard exams). But the watching should be done at least a handsbreadth back from the limits of the Fourth Amendment.

njcommuter on January 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Am I the only one finding usage of Autoritarian methods on Nazi wannabes utterly amusing?

Aristotle on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

If I step back, I have to admit there’s a rather poetic irony there…but this is America, these people have rights, and nobody has any authority to violate them because our sensibilities get ruffled.

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

So if enough people screw up their kids’ lives, it becomes OK? How many slippery slopes to ruin do we have to ride before someone does something about it?

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Let’s face it, naming a kid Adolph Hitler will absolutely guarantee this kid is beaten up every day at school, and will never be able to get a job. If that isn’t unnecessary mental suffering or pain, I don’t know what is.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The child can be homeschooled. As for never being able to get a job, the kid can change his name at 18, as long as the family doesn’t force the child to get a job, that doesn’t even play a role.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM

DYFS is notoriously incompetent, so put nothing beneath them.

JammieWearingFool on January 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Child protection services is out of control. Who decides what is emotional distress? The kids will probably be placed with a foster family that will repeatedly molest them. You know, because that’s a safer environment.

arteest on January 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Something to remember…

JetBoy on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Have I ever suggested that Gays don’t have rights?

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I think there should be some sort of competency test for parents before they can give birth. Most folks (at least those on this blog) have no idea just how widespread these irresponsible parents are, and how they’re breeding like rabbits!

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I think there should be some sort of competency test for parents before they can give birth.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

And anyone who disagrees with the notion that govt is the solution to every problem, has demonstrated that they aren’t competant.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

The parents should be taken away… for being idiots.

I’m actualy joking.

The Police overstepped. The DoCS overstepped. Because the ignorant, racist, Nazi parents named thier child after a monster is no reason to take the child into custody.

Holy crap, I might have to agree with these two morons, the parents if this gets to court and I’m on the jury…

geez

Mark Garnett on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Absolutely we should have the right to screw up our kids. Assuming they are not training their kids to be terrorists who actively plot to take down the government, the kids have a right to be taught any belief system by their parents. This is America.

jimmy the notable on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

They should change the kid’s name to Josef Stalin and see what happens.

Jim-Rose on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

So if enough people screw up their kids’ lives, it becomes OK? How many slippery slopes to ruin do we have to ride before someone does something about it?

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

You’re right, someone should do something about it. Since it’s unconstitutional for you, or the Government to do it, why not stop whining about it?

If people screw their kid’s lives up, that’s between the kid and the parent, not you, the kid, and the parent. Not Obama, the kid, and the parent.

Is the name screwed up? Absolutely. Would I name my kid that? Never in a million years. Is it any of mine, or your business? Absolutely not. This kid already has a set of parents, he doesn’t need you, The State of New Jersey, or the United States of America to be his parent.

At any rate, pushing the kid through an orphanage, pushing the kid through foster home after foster home will screw him up much worse than having the same name as a Nazi Dictator.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

tinfoil hat wearers might be on to something…

gatorboy on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Gosh darn it. What kind of nutballs name their kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation? I would hope the state had a legitimate reason to take the kids to protect them from these Nazi parents..

kanda on January 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Have I ever suggested that Gays don’t have rights?

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I guess that would depend on whether or not you consider them to be human beings….

BigAnge on January 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Everyone, upon puberty, should be sterilized until they can prove they will be fit parents. Then the state should grant them a license to have a child. After taking state-approved classes on parenting. Of course.

lorien1973 on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

I have worked with kids for a large part of my life, so I am very sensitive to the amount of damage parents do to their children.

That said, your average social services worker is a former abused person who is not looking to help others, but to exact revenge through proxy on the person who abused them. Thus they are much to quick a lot of times to remove kids from homes. That said, there is sometimes the OTHER extreme where Social Services KEEPS a kid in a documented dangerous household and the kid ends up getting killed.

I wish there was a fair and knowledgeable authority who would consistently do the right thing…

…but we’re not going to find that on THIS side of the heavenly divide.

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

This reeks of thoughtcrime prosecution.

Kid from Brooklyn on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

It’s sick and twisted, but this is America.We can name our kids whatever we want. But,it will be interesting to see what the exact charge will be.

beththebaker on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

The Democrats will perform a post-birth abortion on them for their own good.

crash72 on January 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Oh, come on now….

There is a BIG difference between being a socialist and naming you kid named, “Sam”

and being a Socialist and naming your kid “Adolph Hitler”

seanrobins on January 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Not to mention all the retarded faux’frican names that many black kids are saddled with.

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Akishawa-naming by scrabble….

funny thing is most Africans I know have Christian names.

sven10077 on January 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

And anyone who disagrees with the notion that govt is the solution to every problem, has demonstrated that they aren’t competant.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Are you sure you typed this right?

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I think there should be some sort of competency test for parents before they can give birth. Most folks (at least those on this blog) have no idea just how widespread these irresponsible parents are, and how they’re breeding like rabbits!

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Good idea. For females the competency test should be their willingness to have sex with me, and me with them.

DarkCurrent on January 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I know some people who named their kid Che. You think the state will come take him away?

(crickets chirping)

Just sayin…..

libertyforever on January 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Are you sure you typed this right?

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I guess you missed the invisible sarcasm markers.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I guess you missed the invisible sarcasm markers.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I hoped that was the case ;)

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Since when is being an idiot illegal?

ahem on January 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Heh heh hahaha!! That’s just funny! Funny and true.

4shoes on January 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM

so perhaps it’s a pre-emptive measure for the kid’s safety?

tru2tx on January 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Then they should be protecting the entire family, not taking the kid away.

Let’s face it, naming a kid Adolph Hitler will absolutely guarantee this kid is beaten up every day at school, and will never be able to get a job. If that isn’t unnecessary mental suffering or pain, I don’t know what is.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

1. I sincerely doubt his name will keep him from getting a job, but if that’s the case, he can change his name or live off the government like his parents.

2. Many things will get a kid’s butt kicked, including just being raised to be a good person, i.e. a dork.

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I think the bottom line is that being a racist isn’t illegal, so while it’s wrong and could arguably be called abuse on some level, I don’t think this is something people want made illegal.

And as you state later, we really don’t want something this subjective to be in the hands of the government.

Esthier on January 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I wonder if they are going to take all the kids away named Osama? What about Kal-El RE: N. Cage’s son?

Redglen on January 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

lorien1973 on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Oh great, another inept bureaucracy. You can bet that some leftist would fight to get questions on the test such as, “Do you believe in Global Warming, Evolution, and that gay couples should get married?”

Its high-class happy-face socialized eugenics. We can’t have the boors reproducing, now can we?

jimmy the notable on January 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

A friend of my wife’s named his kid Anakin.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Exit question: Did they trump up some other grounds as a pretext? Too much cussin’ by dad, maybe?

Since we don’t know, what’s the point of speculating but to manufacture fake outrage?

My guess is that the three year old has a swazitka burned on his ass and somebody reported it.

Blake on January 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

If people screw their kid’s lives up, that’s between the kid and the parent, not you, the kid, and the parent. Not Obama, the kid, and the parent.

Again, I’m not interested in the government deciding who should be parents or not…

…but screwing up your kids is most definitely NOT just between the kid and the parent.

WE pay the price when the kid acts up in school and disrupts other kids from learning. We also pay when they put the kid in an alternative school (taxes go to fund these). We also pay for increased insurance premiums when they decide to break into our houses or steal our cars. And our taxes go to pay for their food and lodging when they get sent to the local penal institute.

Now, I’m speaking generally here, not all screwed up kids go that route and I’m certainly not saying this is the case for Mr. “let’s name our kid after the greatest mass murder in history” and his children.

I’m just noting that we live in a community, and often times the choices we make DO have an impact on others in our community.

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The State can do anything as long as it’s “for the children.”

Mr. Bingley on January 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

New Jersey political correctness…

NRA Lifer on January 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

lorien1973 on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

A whole bunch of people are not going to get your joke.

BadgerHawk on January 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

A friend of my wife’s named his kid Anakin.

MarkTheGreat on January 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Lucas sort of encapsulated everything wrong with our society with his attempted deification of Darth Vader aka Anakin….

he expects us to cheer a mass murdering, child killing, planet zapping dork.

and the funny thing is some do….

Obi-Wan > Anakin in many ways.

sven10077 on January 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Should we have the right to royally screw up our kids?

Yes. Even though we might be idiots for it.

To indoctrinate them into hate . . . such that they grow up to be a thorn and burden to society?

Racist =/= burden to society. Maybe if the kid gets thrown in jail for assaulting a black guy, sure. But he hasn’t done that yet. That and there’s no guarantee the kid will grow up to be like his dad.

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Weak argument that’s been used to justify countless conspiracy theories, such as Bush suspending the election and invoking martial law. Find another one, please.

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

This is going to make an interesting case – child welfare Nazis V. white trash wanna-bes!

MCPO Airdale on January 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I think there should be some sort of competency test for parents before they can give birth. Most folks (at least those on this blog) have no idea just how widespread these irresponsible parents are, and how they’re breeding like rabbits!

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I think you’re just about the biggest hypocrite in the universe.

Here you are opposing parents that named their child after a man that killed millions of people to control the race, intellect, genetics, and health of the people in his country, and you’re suggesting that we institute an exam to measure the competency of individuals to reproduce a child to CONTROL THE POPULATION.

What if a mentally challenged couple wanted to have a child? Would you deny those people their God-given rights to reproduce? What would you suggest the government do should people ignore said competency test as would likely happen, and go ahead and have a child? Would you kill it? Would you steal it? Did you even think that far? Or does your socialist mind not think that far ahead when your socialist hands type your socialist rhetoric?

Maybe Ed and Allah need to institute a competency test to control who should, and should not post on here. It would sure as hell keep morons like you out.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Makes perfect sense….

TheBigOldDog on January 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Maybe Ed and Allah need to institute a competency test to control who should, and should not post on here. It would sure as hell keep morons like you out.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM

+1

sven10077 on January 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM

BadgerHawk on January 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I knew there had to be something to it, since it came from lorien, someone who I know to hate every effort the government has ever undertaken to “fix” things, but the real effect of it just hit me. I won’t say anything though.

jimmy the notable on January 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Hey! Somebody edited this part out:

“Harris did say the children were not removed because of their names. If he wants to name his kids that…I mean whether we agree or not…it is his right to do so,”

Blake on January 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Since when is being an idiot illegal?

ahem on January 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Zing. If that were the case think of all the celebrities who’d lose custody of their kids. Nothing to compare with naming your kid after a brutal genocidal maniac, but come on…”Apple” and “Sunday” come to mind.

scalleywag on January 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Joe The Plumber could fix this. Just send him to New Jersey. Since he’s now considered a legitimate reporter, maybe he can talk some sense into these parents. Joe could name the kids too.

robblefarian on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

My Waco/Ruby Ridge/Elian Gonzales anger has been dormant for quite a while but is now making a comeback.

innominatus on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

WE pay the price when the kid acts up in school and disrupts other kids from learning. We also pay when they put the kid in an alternative school (taxes go to fund these). We also pay for increased insurance premiums when they decide to break into our houses or steal our cars. And our taxes go to pay for their food and lodging when they get sent to the local penal institute.

You don’t know any of that will happen.

I think the bottom line is that being a racist isn’t illegal

If it was, I’d have been arrested during one of the less-than-stellar times in my life.

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

This is insane. what right does the government have here? None. Zip zilch. I thought this could happen in china but in the USA? Idiots are in control and they cou8ld care less about limted consitutional government.

unseen on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Most folks (at least those on this blog) have no idea just how widespread these irresponsible parents are, and how they’re breeding like rabbits!

That’s because most people on this blog are fascist murdering psychopaths who aren’t anywhere near your supreme intellect.

Then again, you are probably 40 years old and still sleeping in a crib next to your mother’s bed.

I know, that was an assumption on my part, but I figured if yu can do it so can I.

Bishop on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Their judgment in naming their child was certainly questionable, but I am very uncomfortable with the government stepping in and taking the child.

Noelie on January 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

What if a mentally challenged couple wanted to have a child? Would you deny those people their God-given rights to reproduce?

I would say it’s up to their parents to decide whether to sterilize them in infancy.

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Man, they acted on THIS kid’s name? I’m surprised they haven’t gone after all the ones named Jesus…. :)

AW1 Tim on January 14, 2009 at 1:30 PM

I think they did it to get media attention. It’s not likely these people would have gotten that any other way.

scalleywag on January 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Maybe Ed and Allah need to institute a competency test to control who should, and should not post on here. It would sure as hell keep morons like you out.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Maybe, you should take a time out. I often hear the same analogy the op used. It’s merely hyperbole and frustration. For you to treat it as THE OUTRAGE OF THE CENTURY!!!1111!!! is stupid.

This is one of the many reasons I oppose all the drumming up of fake outrage by these news items.

Blake on January 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Welcome to Obama nation

RedSoxNation on January 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

stonemeister on January 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Oh boy, I missed that one.

We already tried the whole idea of competency exams, though maybe not to give birth. Where do you think that got us?

Brownshirt.

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

‘Course, I almost named my first son Buford after the guy in Walking Tall.

scalleywag on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

What about Kal-El RE: N. Cage’s son?

Redglen on January 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

WTF? How do you pronounce that?

beththebaker on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Again, I’m not interested in the government deciding who should be parents or not…

…but screwing up your kids is most definitely NOT just between the kid and the parent.

WE pay the price when the kid acts up in school and disrupts other kids from learning. We also pay when they put the kid in an alternative school (taxes go to fund these). We also pay for increased insurance premiums when they decide to break into our houses or steal our cars. And our taxes go to pay for their food and lodging when they get sent to the local penal institute.

Now, I’m speaking generally here, not all screwed up kids go that route and I’m certainly not saying this is the case for Mr. “let’s name our kid after the greatest mass murder in history” and his children.

I’m just noting that we live in a community, and often times the choices we make DO have an impact on others in our community.

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I’m not speaking about abusing a child. Abusing a child should always be prevented (here’s the catch) – If significant evidence can be found.

Until dear old dad starts beating that kid’s ass like a man, it ain’t a shred of your business, and anyone else needs to butt the hell out.

I read and agree with you a lot of the time, but you’re just wrong on this. I wonder what you’re going to think when the state defines “instilling religious based values, and forcing a child to attend religious services against their will” as abuse. Surely you’ll change your stance on the topic once it hits a little closer to home.

This guy naming his kid “Adolf Hitler” and his other kid “Aryan Nation” is stupid, I agree. But I hardly see how that will directly influence the child to break into your car, end up in prison, rob a store, or otherwise. This is beyond absurd.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Racist =/= burden to society.

Ryan Gandy on January 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

True. Some people are privately racist but never even admit it in public. At that point, who really cares? I’m sure almost veryone has a thought that others would find repulsive.

Esthier on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I was just thinking about this kid the other day. My wife is pregnant and I am seriously considering naming the baby Adolf Hitler Moriendi. Now I think that might be a mistake. I dunno, whatta ya’ll think?

Ars Moriendi on January 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

I’m sure almost veryone has a thought that others would find repulsive.

Esthier on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I’m having one right now….

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

What about Kal-El RE: N. Cage’s son?

Redglen on January 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

WTF? How do you pronounce that?

beththebaker on January 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Is it calorie? I love puzzles, but this will frustrate me all day…

beththebaker on January 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Maybe, you should take a time out. I often hear the same analogy the op used. It’s merely hyperbole and frustration. For you to treat it as THE OUTRAGE OF THE CENTURY!!!1111!!! is stupid.

This is one of the many reasons I oppose all the drumming up of fake outrage by these news items.

Blake on January 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Dude, I stare at a computer screen all day and deal with non-IT-competent retards all day. Let me have a little fun with my fake outrage here.

Besides, that guy is an easy target. He brings it on himself.

It’s only a free country for 6 more days, let me enjoy my first amendment.

leetpriest on January 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Ars Moriendi on January 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

I’ll name my son “Arthur Penis”

LimeyGeek on January 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

You don’t know any of that will happen.

No, but the statistics tell us that it is very likely some of that will happen.

If you royally screw up your kid there WILL be consequences paid by people other than the parent and the child.

We live in communities, you can’t keep the kid away from everyone else, thus there WILL be impact upon others.

Religious_Zealot on January 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3


You must be logged in to post a comment.