But did Biden offer to cut up Iraq?
posted at 2:53 pm on January 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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How far have the Democrats moved on Iraq? Joe Biden, the incoming Vice President, has demanded a partition of the country into three separate federal states, which no one else — especially not the Iraqis — want. Barack Obama, our next President, demanded a fixed-date withdrawal from Iraq during the primaries. Both men insisted that the surge would not bring any stability or decrease in violence to Iraq.
Now? Not so much:
Vice President-elect Joe Biden told Iraqi leaders Tuesday that the incoming U.S. administration is committed to a responsible troop withdrawal that does not endanger improvements in security, an Iraqi spokesman said.
Biden delivered the message in talks with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on the second day of his visit to Iraq, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told The Associated Press.
President-elect Barack Obama pledged during his election campaign to withdraw all American combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office and shift the focus to Afghanistan to combat a resurgent Taliban and al-Qaida-linked militants.
Since the November election, however, the U.S. and Iraq have signed a new security agreement that provides for all the more than 140,000 U.S. troops to leave by 2012, despite concerns among senior U.S. commanders that Iraqi forces might not be ready by then to ensure stability. …
“He [Biden] said that Obama is committed to withdraw but he wants the withdrawal to be a responsible one. Obama does not want to waste the security gains that have been achieved,” al-Dabbagh said.
Hmmm. What security gains could Biden mean? The gains made by US troops under David Petraeus and the surge? That couldn’t possibly be what Biden means. After all, Bush’s tenacity in defeating the terrorists and giving Iraq a chance to stand on its own was doomed to failure. Harry Reid already surrendered, as Biden should remember.
I’m curious as to whether Biden mentioned his plan to divide up Iraq into easily-digestible segments for radical terrorists to Nouri al-Maliki. Biden was already unpopular in Iraq over this inexplicably obtuse plan, which Sam Brownback also championed during the Republican primaries. That’s never stopped Biden before from demanding that his opinions get heard even when ridiculous, but perhaps he’s learned a lesson — or maybe Obama told him to forget the partition plan.
All snark aside, Biden’s statements sound somewhat optimistic for those of us who want to see Iraq succeed over the next several years. It’s a definite retreat from fixed-timetable withdrawals, although that’s less of an issue now that Iraq has mostly gotten control of its own territory. They’ll still need plenty of air and naval assistance for at least a decade, and the SOFA has enough flexibility for Obama and Maliki to adjust American military levels to suit the situation. The Left will have a fit, but Biden’s signaling that Obama intends to make use of that flexibility, and that’s a good thing for both Iraq and the US. (via Q&O)
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Ahhh, so all the blather of the campaign is forgotten? Whatever will the left-wing blogs do?
savvydude on January 14, 2009 at 2:56 PM
I’d be willing to bet Maliki stroked Biden’s ego hardcore.
“Mr. Biden, you must not leave the Iraqi people. Millions of people are counting on YOU, Mr. Biden. You can be a hero to all of Iraq if you stick with us.”
Seems to me that Biden is that kind of guy who could be easily swayed by that.
BadgerHawk on January 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM
How about partitioning Biden?
I think he would be a better Vice President if his head were kept in the White House and his body continued to be seated in the Capitol.
Just my opinion.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 2:58 PM
What one has to say to get votes in a Democratic primary, and what will actually deal with reality are two entirely different things. They’re a “different” crowd.
In Biden’s case…he’s just a moron.
therightwinger on January 14, 2009 at 3:00 PM
…………… unheard of!
Seven Percent Solution on January 14, 2009 at 3:00 PM
:-) :-)
therightwinger on January 14, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Well that would really be bi-partisan.
the_nile on January 14, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Jodie Evans and code stink are gonna be pissed big time!!!
Tim Zank on January 14, 2009 at 3:03 PM
The Gaffmaster is just ensuring that no deals will be made until Barack takes office…
As per Barack’s instruction to Maliki during the campaign
pherrman on January 14, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Exactly. Partitioning Biden is a win-win proposition.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I’m not so sure. Partitioning Biden might result in twice the windiness and twice the gaffes.
backwoods conservative on January 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Good point, he might replicate himself similar to the hairplugged little varmint in “Gremlins”.
Might be HUNDREDS of Plugs if we get him wet, so let’s not take any chances.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM
That’s their perpetual state of being. They wouldn’t know what to do with themselves if it was otherwise.
VACalbear on January 14, 2009 at 3:16 PM
No, but I do believe he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
HornetSting on January 14, 2009 at 3:19 PM
So nice to see lil’ VP lindsay graham by his side, my friend.
Brat on January 14, 2009 at 3:20 PM
so its no longer blood for oil?
rob verdi on January 14, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I can’t take this toolbox seriously, I mean, just look at that photo.
I can’t believe this guy is Vice President, I would be just as confident if Barney the Dinosaur was in the office.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:23 PM
First, can’t get out of Gitmo on day one, and now this! It must be tough being a libtard. And now with only a little over 5 days left to impeach Booosch!
kirkill on January 14, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Joe “Cool” Biden!
You put this picture up against the Snoopy characture and there is absolutely no visual difference.
Snoopy is much more intelligent.
PappaMac on January 14, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I drive by two houses on the way to work with “Impeach Him” signs on their lawn.
I can’t wait to get out of Stinktown here in DC.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:26 PM
You don’t mean that the Obama team is going to have to explain another change in direction from campaign promises, do you?
At this point I get this mental picture of the front row or two of the team, being the only ones who heard the about-face command, have pivoted and are attempting to march back through the advancing ranks that represent reality. What a show.
BTW, where is resident-spinner Shipley to explain all of this in terms we can understand?
Yoop on January 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM
He’s undoubtedly on his way to the White House to take his place in the new administration.
Great Leader needs a footstool and Shipely is just the man for the job.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:34 PM
One still wonders how someone can be rewarded so well for being so wrong.
Count to 10 on January 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM
The humor is if they forget to take them down.
Count to 10 on January 14, 2009 at 3:37 PM
The moral bankruptcy of the Left is stunning.
If, as they have been bleating for the past 5 years, the war was illegal and immoral under the Evil Bushilter Regime, then is it not even more illegal and immoral under the coming Obamatocracy?
After all, what’s worse: committing a heinous deed, or allowing the heinous deed to continue being committed even though you have the power and authority to stop it?
Hey Kossacks, who’ll have the moral high after 12:01 pm next Tuesday?
Or maybe you all were just kinda puttin’ on a show, for like, partisan political reasons?
Bruno Strozek on January 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I’m thinking of knocking on their door on January 19th and offering to buy the sign.
Think they’ll sell?
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM
NoDonkey: why do you get to leave? Are you with the Bush administration? Are you Bush? and if you ride down I-95/I-85 to Southern Virginia, we are reasonable people.
kelley in virginia on January 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Biden then stated that he could sum up the security gains in
“three letters”, S-U-R-G-E.
MORON.
Baxter Greene on January 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM
NoDonkey: let’s see, you mentioned you were from San Antonio or at least heading there in 2 weeks. So that means you are not Laura as she will be in Crawford or Dallas. Ditto for W.
wait! you are gonzales!
kelley in virginia on January 14, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Virginia Democrats have told me to get outta town by sundown. Texas beckons.
Only in spirit.
I think we both know the answer to that.
I would have not been as gracious to Helen Thomas, for example.
Exactly and you should succeed from Stinktown up here in Arlington/Alexandria.
West Virginia, NoVirginia and by-god Virginny. Good deal.
I’ll pay no taxes to a state run by corrupt, incompetent Democrats. Good luck with Governor Terry McAulliffe, you know that’s next.
NoDonkey on January 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Joe Biden : self important blowhard hack politician with the rare ability to be wrong about everything all of the time.
And he is still alot better then his boss.
DeweyWins on January 14, 2009 at 4:03 PM
No libetral has ever shown to be responsible..
Period…
I am sorry the last time the word liberal meant anything good
was back when martin luther king was still alive..
So to the iraqi people i say this..
Watch out
The americans wanted the best for you we really did
the liberals
Are in bed with your enemies..
and will destroy you..
trust obama and biden like you would
Osama bin landen or sadamm hssein.,.
they are all the same
jcila on January 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Don’t know about you, but knowing that Obama and Biden have my back would cause me to worry. A lot.
GarandFan on January 14, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I get the distinct impression that Joe Biden is the Token old white guy of the incomming Obama administration.
Dreadnought223 on January 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM
False prophets sending their cronies into the world, only to lead us into darkness and death.
madmonkphotog on January 14, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Omnia Iraquia in tres partes divisa est.
–Josephus Bidenus.
United We Stand, Divided We Fall.
–Nouri al-Maliki
Errare humanum est.
–Josephus Bidenus.
Steve Z on January 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Iran is just waiting until we start withdrawing, then they are going to get the Shiites act up. Obama/Biden will just let Iraq slip away.
Indy928 on January 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM
So now that Obama got elected on all those promises we should be happy that he’s really just a standard lying politician? Too bad McCain didn’t understandhow easy it is to lie to the voting public. Not enough “razzle-dazzle.”
katiejane on January 14, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Wait, I thought that Biden’s trip was as the outgoing Senator, NOT as the incoming Vice-President? This meeting, and more importantly, press conference, sounds a lot like an administrational position, than a senatorial observation.
todler on January 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Is it just me, or does Biden look like a senior citizen Fonzi in that picture?
Hog Wild on January 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM
yeah cut up Iraq maybe with a saw from the Home Depot he hangs out at.
johnnyU on January 15, 2009 at 7:50 AM
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