Gay Episcopal bishop “horrified” at how “aggressively Christian” inaugural prayers have been
posted at 3:20 pm on January 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via R.S. McCain, rather than leave it to The One to invite a rabbi, imam, etc., to offer their own benedictions, he’s going to dispense with the whole Christianity thing and just cover all the bases himself.
Bishop Robinson said he had been reading inaugural prayers through history and was “horrified” at how “specifically and aggressively Christian they were.”
“I am very clear,” he said, “that this will not be a Christian prayer, and I won’t be quoting Scripture or anything like that. The texts that I hold as sacred are not sacred texts for all Americans, and I want all people to feel that this is their prayer.”
Bishop Robinson said he might address the prayer to “the God of our many understandings,” language that he said he learned from the 12-step program he attended for his alcohol addiction.
The current Anglican-in-chief has always seemed less interested in Christian doctrine than, er, “cultural understanding,” so ironically this is one instance in which Robinson’s something of a traditionalist. Exit question: Does he mean to suggest that he can’t relate to prayers by leaders from other faiths for Obama’s and America’s well being? Or is it that he can relate to them, but this multiculti street runs only one way?
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right2bright on January 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Thank you for that. And thanks for the ones posting George Washington’s Prayer.
This Robinson Fiasco is such an in your face reaction to Rick Warren, it is funny.
Did Barry’s people think no one would notice?
kingsjester on January 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM
And a good portion of us started before.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM
If he’s horrified at Christianity and Christ then he isn’t a Christian. There is nothing ‘aggressive’ about the good news that is the Gospel of Christ. It is a gift to everyone and nobody should be offended by someone presenting them a gift.
This guy doesn’t understand Christianity if he feels the need to hide Christ from prayer.
ThackerAgency on January 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Hey “Bishop” Robinson, WWJD?
AZCoyote on January 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
I don’t think one hears “Onward Christian Soldiers” very often in his services…
Wethal on January 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
“May the Force be with you”?
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM
That was the first thing that popped into my head, too.
exlibris on January 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Knowing what I know of scripture, you need to repent and seek forgiveness for that hatred in your heart. Do the words “depart from me you workers of iniquity…I never knew you” mean anything?
sdd on January 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Bishop Robinson is very sensitive. He can feel pain and trauma from a Christian prayer even if under 40 mattresses.
Cheshire Cat on January 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Olaf got the boot? Dang I miss all the fun.
Did Rick Warren get the boot from Obama? Or is O trying to be all things to all people as usual and adding this “bishop” to the show?
baldilocks on January 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM
No kidding.
Let’s help Vicky Gene cut to the chase. Here’s the prayer he’s been looking for:
We hope that change has come to America, and at long last and from this moment forward, we will recognize these words as the final and unwavering doctrine for our nation, the U.N. and the world:
From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need.
So help me Karl.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I dunno Esthier. Wouldn’t something like this work:
“Almighty God; We ask that you provide wisdom and guidance to the President of the United States and other elected officials; that you protect the United States, its officials and people; and that you incline the hearts of people in the US and around the world to do justice, love mercy, exhibit charity and humility and entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another and the other inhabitants of this world.
Please grant our prayer, we ask thee. Amen.”
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
OK, I’d do a 180 on him if he were to do that.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
baldilocks on January 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Evidently, this is bowing down to the Left’s protests of Rev. Warren. Barry’s showing them he still “keepin’ it (un)real” by adding Robinson.
kingsjester on January 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Did Rick Warren get the boot from Obama? Or is O trying to be all things to all people as usual and adding this “bishop” to the show?
baldilocks on January 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Keeping Warren, Bishop is at a different event. Several different activities are planned. The Obama campaign claims Bishop Robinson was on the schedule before the Rick Warren fiasco blew up.
cs89 on January 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Sounds like exactly the kind of guy you’d want to preside over a Euro-weenie Socialist-palooza, like the Inauguration promises to be.
james23 on January 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I wrote an example one just like that earlier in the thread. Of course it would be fine; that’s what most Christians would do if they wanted a generic Christian prayer. But this Bishop seems to want to go even further.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Hey “Bishop” Robinson, WWJD?
–I don’t exactly know, but I’d guess that Jesus wouldn’t have asked God to bless only the members of one Christian denomination.
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Perhaps, but when Jesus said “Love thy neighbor” he also didn’t have Robinson’s version in mind, either, I don’t think.
NoDonkey on January 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM
I fail to see how Christian prayers do that. Maybe you could explain that one.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM
As an Episcopalian, I am embarrassed by Robinson’s comments. And i will not be in front of a TV on Tuesday so that he can embarrass me personally.
kelley in virginia on January 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM
A generic prayer that mentions God (but not Jesus) wouldn’t, Esthier. But it seems that quite a few people here think Robinson should be using Christ or Jesus several times in the prayer and quoting from the New Testament.
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:37 PM
The selection of Robinson as Episcopalian Bishop simply announced to the world that the Episcopal church was no longer Christian.
As I said on another thread, the man is a walking, talking definition of the word apostate.
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I think he only lets men do 180s on him.
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Exactly.
DC bars are going to be open until 5 am, due to a special dispensation in honor of Great Leader.
What alcoholic drink be the most popular among the Obama celebrants?
- Cosmos?
- Crystal champaign?
- 40 oz. Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull?
Remember your vote counts. Probably more than it did during the actual election because ACORN’s not involved.
NoDonkey on January 13, 2009 at 4:39 PM
What would Jesus say to this “bishop”?
Jesus: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
OBAMA: That’s not the Jesus I know.
Warren: Me neither.
Robinson: Jeeeesus made me like this. You mean he didn’t? Then how come I became a bishop? I’m beginning not to like him.
maynila on January 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Black Russian
thomasaur on January 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Bishop Robinson… Bishop might as well be just a first name unless he formed the First church of the ShuckiePhuckieExhibish!
44Magnum on January 13, 2009 at 4:41 PM
You have to wonder what the Muslim supporters of Obama think of this pick? Ghey is punishable by death the last time I heard one of them translate the Koran before hanging one from a nearby crane.
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 4:41 PM
If you want to reach out to everyone and get their attention, you can’t go wrong with Leviticus.
BL@KBIRD on January 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM
So now it’s “God damn Christianity…”
I really can’t wait to see what sermon Obama’s next guru will have for us.
logis on January 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM
There’s no such thing. If they’re all Christian churches, they all pray to the same God and their prayers will sound the same (unless Greek Orthodox in which case no one could understand, but I digress =)
You should try to learn a little more about the subject which you discuss before drawing bad analogies.
Kelligan on January 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I guess like nations, religions wax and wane. Most religions as practiced in the West these days are some kind of watered down pablum. They will probably revive in another time and place. In the US, the Mormons and S. Baptists seem to be strongest imo. The rest are moribund.
JiangxiDad on January 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM
I believe the “bishop” said he was horrified at how specifically and aggressively Christian the past inaugural prayers had been — not at how specifically and aggresively Episcopalian they had been.
But perhaps you and Obama would feel better with a prayer that is more inclusive of all Americans — how about “God Damn Amerikkka”? Obama seemed quite comfortable with that one for about 20 years or so.
AZCoyote on January 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Let’s see:
Matthew 22:29 – “Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.”"
Matthew 7:23 – “Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”
Luke 6:43-45 (speaking about Robinson) – “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.”
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Jesus wept.
NoDonkey on January 13, 2009 at 4:46 PM
A generic prayer that mentions God but does not mention Jesus is not honored by God -
If you don’t pray in Jesus name, it’s not a Christian prayer it’s just milk-toast bland.
Kelligan on January 13, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Ok, Kelligan.
Members of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod and the Unitarian Church have a Thanksgiving service. Should the pastor of the Unitarian Church ask for God’s blessing on gay marriages at that service? Should the pastor of the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church ask for protection for the unborn?
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Hey, with a little Dr. Pepper, they’re pretty good.
I don’t think that’s their issue. Bishop has gone beyond that. He doesn’t even want to just pray to God. He wants to pray to the “God of our many understands” not content to let people decide what God means; he has to spell it out completely and prove he’s praying to every god.
It’s a bit much.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Considering the Unitarian church is not a Christian church, I don’t know why the other 2 churches would have mixed events with their congregation. I’m not saying Christians don’t associate with non-Christians, non-believers, whatever you would call them, but if you’re going to have a church service, my pastor would not invite the Rabbi or Cleric from down the street to lead it.
Kelligan on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I guessing theres a special place for him in his afterlife………..
jims on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM
None of the unitarians I’ve met were that big on the whole “God” thingy, but I do think they were pretty much into the gay thing.
JiangxiDad on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM
A Non-denominational prayer:
O unknowable undefinable questionably existent force, please lend whatever theoretical powers you have to the Advancent of The New Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama, and give him of your theoretical strength, wisdom and knowledge.
In unknowable undefinable questionably existent force’s name we pray, Amen.
BKennedy on January 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Ya think it has anything to do with the fact that he claims to be part of the Anglican Communion and apostolistic succession? That does not warrant providing Oprah-ish theology on special occasions. If this person can’t represent Christ through the imitation of His glory, or weave the truth of the Gospel into a speech, he should take off the collar and the pretty red shirt and open a whole earth art gallery. He is only being invited because he is a bishop of a Christian denomination (which is interestingly enough, apostate).
Obama wouldn’t know an actual, Christ imitating, Gospel living, Christian Bishop if he jumped up on his lap and called him “Hussein”.
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM
I dunno. I think you could substitute “God of many understandings” or “our personal God” for “God” in the prayer and be just fine.
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And AZCoyote, if the goal is to be non-offensive, how would “God Damn Amerikkka” ever do that?
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM
How about this prayer:
“Chaplain: Let us praise God. Oh Lord… Congregation: Oh Lord… Chaplain: Oooh you are so big… Congregation: Oooh you are so big… Chaplain: So absolutely huge. Congregation: So ab – solutely huge. Chaplain: Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here I can tell you. Congregation: Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here I can tell you. Chaplain: Forgive Us, O Lord, for this dreadful toadying. Congregation: And barefaced flattery. Chaplain: But you are so strong and, well, just so super. Congregation: Fan – tastic. All: Amen.”
I believe Great Leader Obama will be pleased and it will be good. So be it.
NoDonkey on January 13, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Politicization of the invocation event tends to cheapen the message if one is inclined to be cynical. Men of the cloth elbowing for best public position, as if squaring for a basketball rebound, may not be what it is all supposed to be about,..but,..what do I know? There a far worse things happening right now that worry me more.
a capella on January 13, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Great question, AP. I have attended dozens of interfaith services in my Chicago south suburban neighborhood, specifically at Thanksgiving, but other times as well. Services in Synagogues, Christian churches of every kind, and Unitarian (i.e., non-Christian) … uh … prayer lodges or whatever.
And when the Rabbi is praying to his God for our community, it was quite clear from the Bible that I read that he was praying to my God. The Unitarians claim the same thing, too.
Maybe Robinson is confused.
Jaibones on January 13, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Here are some links to multifaith Thanksgiving services, so you can understand better:
http://www.davka.org/what/text/liturgies/thanksgivingservice96.html.
http://www.mlive.com/living/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2008/11/service_brings_together_many_f.html
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM
I’ve taken that as more than just literally saying “in the name of Jesus” but as, asking in the manner Jesus would ask.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM
If you don’t know where you are going any path will take you there.
Cheshire Cat on January 13, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Robinson is not Anglican-in-Chief, but unfortuately, he is in NH. I do find myself constantly trying to explain my Church to people these days though, and Robinson has had a lot to do with that. Here I go again!! Look, many if not most,Episcopalians have a deep faith–however blurred it may have become in people’s perceptions and the leanings of the Church leadership–I like to think mine is one of these. If leaving the Church is the only way to prove that to myself or others, then I guess it will never be proven. I prefer to stay and do what I can to keep a Faith I dearly love from becoming more of a social movement rather than a religion. Yes! A steep uphill battle.
jeanie on January 13, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I am sorry but maybe just maybe you should actually
read the bible instead of using it to roll your Joints
right before your in bed doing all those nasty things that you do…
jcila on January 13, 2009 at 5:02 PM
I dunno. Isn’t Jesus also the Holy Spirit and God? So couldn’t you ask in God’s name for it to be the same effect as asking in Jesus’ name?
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Jeanie, I left after discerning for the priesthood and finishing seminary. I am starting all over again in the Orthodox Church, and it is glorious. I became numb to hearing sermons on Global Warming and pro-abortion discussions. I’ve heard the argument about staying behind to minister to those that will not leave, and good luck with that.
Stay strong.
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 5:05 PM
The only texts this guy holds sacred are the screenplays to Milk and Brokeback Mountain.
We get it, you hate Christianity, so take off the wolf’s clothing and do your thing.
Grafted on January 13, 2009 at 5:05 PM
It’s getting kind of hard to keep track. Which event has Bishop Robinson praying and which has Pastor Warren? Also, who said the corresponding prayers before Bush’s terms? It didn’t work, whoever it was.
RightOFLeft on January 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Who said the goal is to be non-offensive? The “bishop’s” goal is to be inclusive and non-Christian. “God Damn Amerikkka” is inclusive of all Americans, it’s certainly not a Christian prayer, and we know that it doesn’t offend Obama, because it’s the prayer of “Reverend” Wright, the so-called Christian pastor at whose church Obama and his family worshipped for two decades.
AZCoyote on January 13, 2009 at 5:07 PM
The whole point of Jesus coming was that we have a way to the Father through Him. Before that the Jews had to have a priest ask for forgiveness for their sins. We still don’t necessarily have direct contact to the Father (though we do) but through Jesus Christ with the Holy Spirit interpreting for us.
Kelligan on January 13, 2009 at 5:07 PM
And perform the sacrifice for them. Details =)
Kelligan on January 13, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Obama wouldn’t know an actual, Christ imitating, Gospel living, Christian Bishop if he jumped up on his lap and called him “Hussein”.
–Do you think you really have the correct temperament for this work, Hening? You seem to be pretty quick to judge others.
jim m on January 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM
I think everyone is. Some are just good at not putting that judgment to words.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
True, but that’s the purpose of religion. Religion exists to help people feel better about themselves, to explain things they don’t understand, to let them hope for a happier life, to justify their bigotry, to permit them to rape children, and to allow them to murder with a clear conscience.
“Whatever works for you” is a wordy expression for religion.
paul006 on January 13, 2009 at 5:18 PM
You got us. And that line isn’t at all bigoted or hateful. Don’t listen to what the other posters tell you.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Jim,
I’m not a PC ministering type. I’m familiar with Obama’s religious affiliation, his support of infanticide and now his pick of Robinson. I have also struggled with what is going on in American churches, and not just the Episcopal mess. My affiliation with ministry is a calling, and I have no idea why God would want a sinner like me in the first place. Thankfully He sees more in me than you do.
Hening on January 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I have a dream…
…it’s a pretty big dream and has about 0 chance of every actually happening…
…but my dream is that one day everyone understands what Christ meant when He said “don’t judge” in that He wasn’t telling us to not discern right from wrong or good from bad. Just that the ‘punishment’ for whatever wrong was done would be left to God.
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Gay and alcoholic? I didn’t know the U.S. clergy was so hard up for help….
Hog Wild on January 13, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Gay, alcoholic AND adulterous (he was ‘seeing’ his male lover while still married to his wife)!
A lot of the emphasis on his ordination had to do with him being an avowed, practicing homosexual.
And while that was a big and important point…
…it was only one part of a much larger problem of being an avowed, unrepentant sinner.
To honest, the Episcopal church would have been hard pressed to find a person LESS suited for being bishop than Robinson.
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 5:32 PM
From what I can tell from observation and by visiting their website, the Episcopal Church is ONLY interested in progressive views, liberalism, a green agenda, feeling good about themselves and a socialistic agenda apart from Scripture. The buggering Bishop is perfect for this organization!
sabbott on January 13, 2009 at 5:35 PM
heh…. well obviously you know him a lot better than I do….
just kidding. Ha!
Hog Wild on January 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Very true.
I should have made the point that I was referring to the scriptural requirements for bishops.
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM
How about a short and sweet – God help us. we’re going to need it
katiejane on January 13, 2009 at 5:42 PM
There was a lot of discussion on various on-line bulletin boards at the time of his selection.
All of this stuff was (and still is) pretty common knowledge.
There had been, for quite a while, a strong push in several denominations to ordain avowed, practicing homosexuals.
But Robinson’s selection pretty well rocked everyone due to all of his other issues.
I think what surprised everyone is that the Episcopal church didn’t even try to select a gay bishop whose credentials would be hard to argue against.
Instead, they went entirely the other direction and picked someone who should have been defrocked as a pastor!
Religious_Zealot on January 13, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I’ve decided to dedicate my daily life to being as politically incorrect as I can be!
How this foolishness ever got started I don’t know, but it’s time for it to go. It’s become a way of life that has made us weak and untruthful.
People keep talking about it and how “it’s got to go”, but nobody has the courage to stop it.
waterfall on January 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Perhaps he would be better served in his search for spiritual guidance by looking to his years of training at seminary rather than his 28 days in rehab.
Texas Cheesehead on January 13, 2009 at 6:08 PM
AAAAWWW … The false prophet praying to the father to bless the son’s inauguration as messiah of the world.
Badbrucskie on January 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM
He should enjoy hell then. Not too much “Christan” going on down there.
JellyToast on January 13, 2009 at 6:23 PM
I know this was way back there on the thread but I am compelled to express my appreciation for your comment, Laura!
califcon on January 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM
That guy must be gay or something.
Itchee Dryback on January 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM
I’ve decided to dedicate my daily life to being as politically incorrect as I can be!
Many decent REAL Christians are breaking away from the Episcopalian Church because of this active homosexual and fake Christian Bishop Gene Robinson. They are trying to take a stand against this madness. Maybe it’s time that ALL Christians and other decent Americans with morals, values, standards and principles stop being politically correct and start speaking their minds.
We must speak out against protecting perversion and Secularism. We ought to start by demanding that homosexual organizations like Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network (GLSEN), immediately be removed from public schools. Do you know if your child’s school teaches that homosexual behavior is “just another lifestyle alternative” or that homosexual behavior is normal?
This “foolishness”, as you call it, is the consequence of citizens/parents being cowards. Like you, I will gladly take the consequences for being direct and honest and politically incorrect and I will always err on the side of children. The religious have the power so we need only unite. Let’s stop talking about it and start doing something about it.
sinsing on January 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM
He’s not the only one. I pray hard that this country survives the next four years.
Mallard T. Drake on January 13, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Thought this might be an appropriate post — one of those “horrifying” prayers that was prayed by Minister Joe Wright to open a new session of the Kansas Senate a few years ago. The anti-theists in the Senate walked out. But praise God for a guy who will tell it like it is!
Christian Conservative on January 13, 2009 at 6:49 PM
What about the children with gay parents or relatives?
dedalus on January 13, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Not enough for liberals to try to remove Christ from Christmas. Now they’re removing him from prayer.
chansen9 on January 13, 2009 at 6:53 PM
It’s a lost battle, take it from a cradle Episcopalian. You can sit in the pew and pretend it’s not happening – I know there are still a few Chrisitans left there – but the idea that you are going to turn things around is a joke. That “church” has been hijacked. As someone said to me years ago, the building is on fire – leave your pretty stained glass windows, your precious heritage and get out of there,don’t die with it.
sloopy on January 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM
This guy is a total clown.
brak on January 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Amen, indeed. Thanks for sharing that prayer.
Mallard T. Drake on January 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
This is one of those amusing times when conservatives can’t grasp what is a very simple concept to most. You can be a Christian and still be horrified when the government appears to endorse or favor one religion over the other.
crr6 on January 13, 2009 at 7:07 PM
So much for truth and meaning. Thank you post-modernism and relativism.
theboss on January 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM
I take offense not at a Christian prayer, but at a man denigrating his own religion (Christianity) in a lame attempt to not offend anyone. If you believe in the divine powers of your God, then feel free to invoke His name as you see fit in your prayers. If you are too fearful to speak to your God, for fear of alienating others, you should take a step back and take a long, hard look at your beliefs.
And St. Olaf is gone? With only 10 episodes of my favorite show left (and several others cancelled or on hiatus), wtf am I supposed to do for cheap entertainment? I miss him!
Anna on January 13, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Parents who choose to engage in homosexual sex should think about the consequences, of their behavior, and how it might impact their own children’s lives. It is not the responsibility of Christians and other moral and decent parents to sacrifice their children to put smiles, on the faces of homosexuals.
sinsing on January 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I wonder how many Christians are really praying about these prayers!!
America has been moving away form God since the 60′s (and earlier) at an alarming rate and look where we are now.
Right where REAL Preachers have been preaching we’d end up for years.
…….and if Rick Warren doesn’t pray in Jesus name every Church in America that used his stuff (Thank God ours didn’t and doesn’t) ought to burn his books publically!
Too extreme? Is THIS fiasco not an extreme slap in the face to God, the Bible and Chrisitanity????
The voice of one crying in the wilderness……
John The Baptist on January 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Godspeed. Fight the good fight.
silverfox on January 13, 2009 at 7:40 PM
You had commented that you would always be on the side of the children, but it may not appear that way to children with gay people in the family.
dedalus on January 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM
John The Baptist on January 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM
You are heard, my brother. Billy Graham was not ashamed of Him. Rick Warren needs to proclaim Him as well.
kingsjester on January 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Dear Gene,
That’s great since your very lifestyle as a practicing sodomite means you are doomed to Hell and your “ordination” as a religious leader a mockery of Christianity. Scripture or any suggestion that you are a saved Christian coming from your mouth would be offensive to Christians nationwide. Better to stick to talking about secular topics. Episcopalians must be mighty proud that something like you gets a voice in this coronation of a filthy Chicago politician. You and Obama are made for each other.
highhopes on January 13, 2009 at 8:00 PM
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