Video: Hamas cheers its “industry of death”
posted at 12:18 pm on January 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
This comes from February 2008, as a Hamas politician explains why his group loves to hide behind women, children, and the elderly. Apparently, Hamas considers death a growth industry, a term used by Fathi Hammad in this speech:
[The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: “We desire death like you desire life.”
And this is why it makes no sense at all to reward Hamas with statehood in Gaza. It’s a terrorist enclave as it is. What happens when they have statehood and the legitimacy to raise an army and purchase massive amounts of weapons? They will have a million Gazans to use as human shields for all sorts of attacks against the Israelis, much as they already do for their own “bombing machine”.
Death is not a growth industry. It’s a nihilistic industry intended on destroying the state of Israel at the expense of women and children in Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel itself. This is why Hamas is no partner for peace under any circumstances, and why Israel has the right idea in attempting to root them out of Gaza permanently.
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What a sad, sad, poor group of people.
If it is death they want, it is death they will get. It’s as simple as that.
Riposte on January 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I’m sure Isreal will supply them to death…
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
“It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: “We desire death like you desire life.”
Well, alrighty then…grant them their wish.
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Anyone who desires that, should have that desire fulfilled.
Patrick S on January 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Why do they call this conflict..
the_nile on January 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM
…and Joltin’ Joe The Plumber, er, Citizen Journalist picking sides against and telling the truth about these murderous barbarians is a problem how?
ornery_independent on January 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Looks as if only the human shields desire death. The guys hiding behind them seem to be looking to avoid it!
jeanie on January 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Looks like it is time to hit Ctrl+Alt+Del and restart their computer. Perhaps that will eliminate the virus that has infected it. If that doesn’t work it may be time to call in the Geek Squad….
DL13 on January 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
So Palestinians are Goth now?
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
“You’re welcome.” – Israel
mankai on January 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Of course, perhaps the western media should take note…and stop playing all that propaganda footage folks at CNN, for example, seem to relish showing the poor poor oppressed residents of Gaza. Sort of undercuts Hamas’ readily apparent desired aim…to die.
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM
They sure do. Like booby-trapping the Gaza City Zoo and the school next to it.
A violation of the Geneva Conventions and it will really make PETA angry.
Andy in Agoura Hills on January 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM
This is why I hate the left, they make excuses for psychopaths like these.
Lance Murdock on January 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM
“Hamas will sleep with the sea-kittens” PETA spokesperson.
the_nile on January 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM
So Palestinians are Goth now?
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
*snort*
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Of course, they fail to mention the number of their “workers” who are put in place at gunpoint. The idea being that women and children may be “insufficiently enlightened” to place what Hamas regards as appropriately high value on Martyrdom For The Cause.
Hamas has ceased to have any relevance to anything remotely resembling any legitimate aspirations of Palestinians (whatever those may be after they took careful aim and shot themselves in the foot in 1948). They are nihilists, purely and simply. They seek the destruction of Israel, the United States, the Arab world, in fact, the entire world, plus their own destruction as well, purely for its own sake.
Anyone who thinks that Hamas can be “negotiated” with should consider this very carefully. Assuming rationality on the part of the homicidally and/or suicidally insane is never a wise policy.
cheers
eon
eon on January 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM
This shows why we won’t win and they will if we continue on our present course of decadence and cavalier attitudes towards Islamism.
“Americans love pepsi, we love death.”
They have such devotion to their cause, and their breeding levels aren’t going to drop anytime soon. We aren’t even concerned; most of us.
blatantblue on January 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Seriously?
Coming right up!
drjohn on January 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
They think it is their greatest strength, but it is their greatest weakness.
“…some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” -TDK
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
They sure do. Like booby-trapping the Gaza City Zoo .
The Paleoswinians booby-trapped their own city hall?
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
I can only hope we continue to learn a lesson by listening to our enemy… They use children as shields… It’s a planned and staged event to “force”, thru use of the global MSM, the haters of America, a premature stoppage of victory. When we finally remember, if ever, the lessons of WWII and COMPLETE destruction of our enemy will we ever be safe again. I hope Isreal understands, Americans don’t…
Mark Garnett on January 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
This is a mass psychosis, a culture of death. If you have a culture of seeking death, then you have no reason to live, no desire to build up a society.
Truly an epic failure.
Very sad.
rbj on January 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Then why are they whining? The Zionists are only giving them what they want….
mjk on January 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Cowards making excuses.
Little Boomer on January 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Paging Dr. Kevorkian, STAT!
Seriously, the question has to be: Why does the Left continue to cover Hamas’s (Terror Inc, et al) flank by not airing pieces like this? If the answer is not anti-Semitism, I’m at a loss to see what else explains it.
Western_Civ on January 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Then why are they whining? The Zionists are only giving them what they want….
mjk on January 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Because when the Hamas bigwigs started getting whacked, they said “Hold on…we didn’t mean us!”
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Let’s send Bill Maher in there for a sequel to Religulous. He’ll be able to show them the folly of their ways, and give them a chuckle in the process.
ornery_independent on January 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM
if its such a great industry why dont they stand up in the front and happily await their own one way ticket to Allah’s whore house and BBQ rib shack.
Mojack420 on January 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Ed, in the same line of reasoning…Arafat was a terrorist, too, so the “Palestinians”, who supported this long line of terrorists do not deserve their own statehood…ANYWHERE!
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Hamas considers death a growth industry…
No irony there.
Crank up the “Zionist bombing machine”. Give them all they can handle until Hamas is just a greasy spot on the pages of history.
SKYFOX on January 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Front page image, the guy on the left = patient 0 of the zombie apocalypse.
ChrisM on January 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
You have the answer…any other “explaination” is just BS
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Click here for the latest in Gaza from the Israeli Foreign Ministry.
Andy in Agoura Hills on January 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Front page image, the guy on the left = patient 0 of the zombie apocalypse.
ChrisM on January 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Hehehehe…got that right….whoa.
“Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggaaaaaaaa”
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Mark Steyn often points out the palis, by virtue of their ghastly institutions that dominate every facet of their miserable lives, are the most institutionally screwed up people group on the planet. “The kids wake up in a house on a street named for a ‘martyr.’ they walk past posters of ‘martyrs’ on the way to school, hung on walls of stores that sell pictures and memoirs of ‘martyrs.’ the name of the school? ‘sword of the infidel slayer elementary.’ and some of us actually wonder why they aren’t eager to ‘peacfually coexist?!?!??!’”
Buckaroo on January 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM
I just tried the link..got the header, but the page didn’t load… maybe they are BUSY! Will try again.
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Burn it all. Gather the ashes. Burn the ashes.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Read another story about the Hamas leadership, the ones calling on people to martyr themselves, hiding out in hospitals and schools. What utter cowards. If death is what they truly seek, why are they hiding instead of fighting? The IDF is right there. They are interested only in saving their own cowardly butts and maintaining power.
uskorea on January 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Reminds me of a North Korean soap opera. Everyone loves the Dear Leader, even unto death…
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Palestinians: Could have had a country, but would rather have war.
Socratease on January 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM
If that doesn’t work try: http://www.mfa.gov.il
The Foreign Ministry puts up a summary and video of what’s going on in Gaza from reporters embedded with the IDF.
Andy in Agoura Hills on January 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Gaza would be pretty empty if they did that properly (given that most Palestinians love their terrorists to death). Not that I’d have any problem with that, I’m giddy at the thought of eradicating savages for good.
thinkagain on January 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken
izoneguy on January 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Ed, in the same line of reasoning…Menachem Begin was a terrorist too, so the “Isrealis”, who supported this long line of terrorists do not deserve their own statehood…ANYWHERE!
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I am sorry but this is ISLAMS FAULT..
Its their Religion so its the muslims responsibility
to CLEAN up the MESS they made..
I just watched over at jihadwatch this you tube video showing the british police
in FULL RETREAT against a pro hamass / pro islamic MOB..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg&eurl=http://www.jihadwatch.org/
jcila on January 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Nope..same thing…I’ll try when I move to explorer later..sometimes Firefox gets iffy…
but thanks for the site info. BTW: I used to live near T.O., my CPA is still in Agoura Hills, nice place (:
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Well, when you have a holy book, the Qur’an, continually referring to the ahl al-kitaab, people of the book, as apes, pigs, and those Muslims should not befriend, this stuff happens
blatantblue on January 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM
clarification – people o’ the book are jews and christians
blatantblue on January 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Sounds like a match made in, er, heaven. I wonder who many Gazans, if they saw this would say, “Speak for yourself, a-holes.” Isn’t it a unviversal truth that people just want a safe enviroment in which to raise their children?
smellthecoffee on January 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Once Again, you are a smart person, but wrong.. the problem is you cannot equate the actions taken by the two. Way too long for a discussion here, but it is making a moral equivelent that just is not.
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Ed, in the same line of reasoning…Menachem Begin was a terrorist too, so the “Isrealis”, who supported this long line of terrorists do not deserve their own statehood…ANYWHERE!
Ed, in the same line of reasoning…George Washington was a terrorist too, so the “Americans”, who supported this long line of terrorists do not deserve their own statehood…ANYWHERE!
As long as we’re broadening the definition.
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Hamas, like all good Islamists, celebrates death and blood and destruction, yet the goodwill of many disillusioned people and governments lies with these vultures who thrive on the blood of others.
Christian Amanpour and other useful idiots keep reporting on the “suffering” of the “man in the street”, when in truth the “man in the street” was firing a rocket at truly innocent civilians, while hiding behind the skirts of women and the innocence of children and the helplessness of the hospitalized and the promise of the schools and the “sacred” aura of the mosques…
hillbillyjim on January 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
You aren’t equating Washington with Arafat, are you????
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I forgot..SARC
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:12 PM
You aren’t equating Washington with Arafat, are you????
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
No, but Smrgol always likes to stir the pot by enlisting technical definitions without any regard to context or historical consequence, so I thought I would stir right back.
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Here is some info for him….
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=795&x_context=7
get some coffee or a drink…it’s a very long read (:
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Jees! Is this guy the anti-Tony Robbins are what?
TheSitRep on January 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
It’s for these people we need a Jim Jones and his Jonestown. Give them all Kool-aid spiked with cyanide that they want.
Kim Priestap on January 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
CC: Christiane Amanpour.
Buy Danish on January 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Did she really say this? It wouldn’t surprise me, but still….
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Absolutely. Thanks for affirming my point that one man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Oh, new Hamas slogan:
“We didn’t choose the cake.”
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM
“Give me slaves, extermination and everyone worshipping my lunatic, psychopathic death cult, or give me death.” – Achmed Halee
I’ll take death for Hamas for $50, Alex.
NoDonkey on January 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM
The moment they use those weapons it stops being an oppressed people striking back and becomes and internationally-recognized act of war. American troops can then, in the name of protecting our ally, invade and disarm the rogue state and bring about regime change.
Now do you see the logic of the two state solution?
Kafir on January 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Jeanie, this is so pinpoint accurate that I hearby deem you brilliant. Look at this tool, in his nice suit, actually admitting how he is using “his own people” so he and other idiots like him can attain power. I mean, after all, remember what a devout muslim Saddam Hussein said he was. Please! Enough already with this holier than thou bs…
yubley on January 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Indiscriminate rocket fire = dumping tea into the bay.
Right, got it. What color is the sky in your world?
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I urge the IDF to set up megawatt speakers on the Gaza border, directed towards the sea, playing ‘Like A Virgin’ in an endless loop, loudly.
Since Hamas did was not explicit in the details about how their death wish was to be fulfilled, or the timeframe, I have naturally assumed “slowly” fits their bill.
shaken on January 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
In my world, Washington had nothing to do with dumping any tea into the bay. He did keep slaves, however.
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM
And so he should have it.
Jaibones on January 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Absolutely. Thanks for affirming my point that one man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.
You see, beth? No historical results or references, no context of action and consequence, simply a technical definition which could conceivably apply to something as simple as one child taunting another.
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 1:31 PM
That’s just drivel for the morally challenged.
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Then take the ashes of ash, and urinate on them. Make a paste, and then burn that. Then pour salt on it, and line pie sties with it.
Jaibones on January 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM
His point is unworthy of your talent. Let it rot.
Jaibones on January 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM
In my world Menachem Begin was the leader of the Irgun, whose methods included terrorizing Palestinians.
And, in my world he, in later life, shook hands with someone who was every inch his adversary, Yasser Arafat.
Something happened to stop Israel from taking Arafat, as they did Eichmann, and putting him on trial. Could it be that Arafat was more valuable to Israel alive rather than dead? Could it be that leaving Arafat alive saved Israeli lives? Might it be that both Arafat and Begin actually deserved the Nobel Peace Prize they shared?
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Wow, a new marketing ad from MurderMonkeysRUs….
HomeoftheBrave on January 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Yes. A simple mind devoid of real critical thinking. I hope he/she does not procreate… Parents are challenged on a daily (hourly) basis, this everyone is equal BS is screwing up the future generations.
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM
My mistake. Begin didn’t get the Peace Prize. But I think he deserved it.
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM
I think we all agree that rooting out Hamas and destroying their ability to conduct attacks is a worthy objective.
I worry, however, that by indulging their desire to make Gaza’s civilians targets Israel will end up compromising its own long term security goals and in the short term make Hamas more popular than they were before the current operation. I would think that denying Hamas of its avowed tactical aim would be better for Israel and the people of Gaza.
lexhamfox on January 12, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Unfortunately the catch is they have to get some of us ‘sons of apes and pigs’ to die along with them in order to collect their 72 virgins.
These silly death cults with their fine print-no doubt drawn up by the most evil people of all, lawyers. :)
thinkagain on January 12, 2009 at 1:40 PM
People for the Ethical Treatment of Pies may have something to say about that.
;-)
hillbillyjim on January 12, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Wow…a self-defeating concept. The more people they kill, the more likely they will be killed/arrested/hated. Well…not hated by the NY Times, of course.
jediwebdude on January 12, 2009 at 1:42 PM
If Israel truly wanted to make targets of Gaza’s civilians, there aren’t enough backhoes and bulldozers in the world to dig the necessary mass graves for the casualties which would result.
Israel is doing what it can to keep those civilians out of the line of fire, respective to the realities of this particular war. If Hamas truly cared about their people, they would work harder on their behalf.
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Israel can only avoid this by using the Ulysses S. Grant method of waging war. I pointed out in a previous comment (on another Hot Air post) that the smallest bone thrown to Hamas before a surrender will allow them their honor — and ability to claim that the hazards to which they subjected their civilians were for the greater good.
It’s why Grant always insisted on unconditional surrender. After he obtained that, he could be gracious and throw a bone or two, but his enemy no longer had their honor whole and entire — they had given it to Grant, and he had given it back, and while they had it, it was no longer theirs — it was Grant’s.
The civilians of Gaza will then understand that Hamas subjected them to the winds of war for no visible gain, and will act accordingly.
A wee bit of war psychology that the Israelis hopefully will take into account — even though we didn’t in Vietnam and have paid the price of that miscalculation over and over in following conflicts.
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Nice try. Can you source the basis for your comment that Israel is indulging their desire to target Gaza civilians? How does Israel deny Hamas their tactical aim of destroying Israel,…bury theri rocket victims and cower?
a capella on January 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM
No. Arafat and the PLO targeted civilians almost exclusively. Begin and the IRGUN targeted military and warned civilians (sounds familiar?) prior to attacks. No difference, you say? Well, in my world, hi-jacking Grandpa on a airplane or killing a vacationing wheelchair bound cruise passenger is very different than bombing the King David Hotel (with prior warning)where the British military were stationed is NOT the same.
As for your claims of Arafat’s “change of heart”…HA! He not only continued terror campaigns on Israel, but he F**ked his own people….stole their money, kept them poor as dirt, used them a spawns for his gains, and prevented them from having their own state during the Clinton Admin.
Why did Begin shake hands with the rat? It was not because Arafat SAVED any lives..it was a choice of being bitten by the one headed snake or the two headed snake!
Comparing the two as equally wrong or evil is ….well….wrong.
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Grant was a terrorist…why follow his lead? sarc
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Your powers of missing the point astound me.
George Washington, whatever his faults, is not known for firing weapons off indiscriminately or deliberately targeting civilians.
That “one man’s terrorist” garbage is transparently vacuous when examined honestly. Claiming a political goal does not automatically sanction any action – and some things ought to be off limits to anyone. Unless you’d like to perform the moral acrobatics necessary to justify blowing up a Sbarro.
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
+1
Let him eat pizza!
beththebaker on January 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Johan Klaus on January 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Dear Hamas:
Death is not a growth industry and we’ll be more than happy to continue proving that to you.
Sincerely,
The IDF
manofaiki on January 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Jews are the canaries, Muslims are the methane.
Moral equivocators might like to view it this way as a different mental exercise while nursing their lattes.
BL@KBIRD on January 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
You obviously weren’t aware that definitions must be concisely applied without any outside influence: just examine the word and stick it on anything.
“One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” See how easy that is?
Now we can apply that logic across the board: “One man’s child molester is another man’s lover of human children.”
It’s easy when you have the code book and don’t mind leaving out critical reasoning.
Bishop on January 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM
If this guy truly believes what he is saying, then these people have absolutely no reason to exist.
MrFreeman07 on January 12, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Don’t ya just love the “Death for thee, but not for me” crowd?
44Magnum on January 12, 2009 at 2:11 PM
“One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”
And one man’s “morally and intellectually bankrupt lickspittle apologist for psychopath terrorists” is another man’s CNN reporter.
NoDonkey on January 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Deconstructionism WRU?
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 12, 2009 at 2:21 PM
You know what’s the worst thing that can happen to these dimwits? For Israel to no longer exist. It’s the only thing that defines them and gives their life meaning and purpose. Cause if it didn’t exist then they would actually have to govern and provide for themselves and their isn’t much evidence they would be even remotely capable of doing so.
AmericanUnderground on January 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Primal differences.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/totten/50132
a capella on January 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM
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