Video: Coulter appearance on “The View” goes exactly as you’d expect
posted at 5:41 pm on January 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Eight and a half minutes of contentious cross-talk, most of it dwelling on a proposition that even the left is grudgingly coming around on. Do note Sherri’s admonition towards the end about tone. Whoopi didn’t seem too worried about that recently when she wondered aloud vis-a-vis Coulter whether the carpet matches the drapes. Behar called her a “bitch” at the same event, a slight Coulter really shouldn’t take personally: Joy dropped the same insult on Michelle in 2007. And then took John McCain to task for not objecting to it when someone dropped it on Hillary soon after. Of course.
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Or at the very least a drawback.
alex342 on January 13, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Well, that was my guessing on his behalf. I can’t say that he actually holds those views.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM
“I’m being semi-facetious. I meant that terrorism seems to be an external threat to democracy whereas the democratisation (or vulgarisation) or culture evidenced by the success of demagogic mediocrities like Coulter is a problem of democracy itself. alex342
I left out psuedo-intellectual. Demagogic mediocrity? Just like Palin, Ann inwittingly emasculates men by having the stones to say (on The View, for instance), the truth. It all boils down to jealousy and envy boys and I’m not being facetious…
Christine on January 13, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Surely you think that started long before Coulter. She may embrace it, but she didn’t exactly make up the concept. Stern was already a household name years before Clinton was being sued by Paula Jones and a young lawyer was getting her first taste of air time.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Christine on January 13, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Haha. I don’t think even Gloria Steinem could find evidence of misogyny in anything I said. I’m a big fan of women.
alex342 on January 13, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Behar is a T.N.U.C.
I’m watching that clip and I only see this!
Kini on January 13, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Arrughh, I guess that would have been interesting if I could stand to watch more than the first fifteen seconds. Just like watching an interview with Skeltor, open your mouth to answer a question your asked and your immediately over talked. Got to love liberals, they want answers, their answers only. Reminds me of the screaming child jumping up and down with it’s hands over it’s ears.
N4646W on January 13, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Okay Joy and Baba WaWa start making out and then Whoopie joins in. Whoooaaa! This is starting to get really gross now. What am I talkin’s about? This inner Biden has to go!
Mr. Joe on January 13, 2009 at 2:16 AM
I believe we have caught on film the actual moment when an Alpha-Female resets the menstrual cycles for the rest of the clan………..
Seven Percent Solution on January 13, 2009 at 3:01 AM
Just ugh.
nickj116 on January 13, 2009 at 4:28 AM
It’s a Gunfight , why do they ask Ann to bring a spoon.
Always outnumbered , never outgunned.
the_nile on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 AM
MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY! Same can be said for the other “womyn” on that femi-fascist coffee clutch–and even Hasselbeck–A FEMALE FAUX CON! And as far as compassion, Ann has more of it in her pinky finger THAN THOSE “WOMYN” ON THE VIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BobAnthony on January 13, 2009 at 7:06 AM
4 to 1 and she still wins.
….truth wins whenever it is given a chance—notice the emphasis
They never let her finish a single thought–because it made sense.
John The Baptist on January 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM
Why do we care about the “View”, or should I say the “Far Left, Wack Job, Liberal View”… That has a nice ring to it… I claim that IS the new title for the show… Women who hate America, vile filth spewing forth all the time, washing the feet of the Messiah… And here we are, giving them “air” time on a so called Conservative web site… It’s a sad state of affairs when this pases for entertainment or news in America… These women would have been tried for treason during WWII… AND EXECUTED! The hate filled rants against anything decent, morals, values, God, religion, America is sickening… Yet they are on the TV, corrupting a new generation of women and impressionable girls into the far left loony bin… Conservatives can’t match this… Where are OUR voices? Until we start taking back the “air” we will continue to see the slide into moral moras and decay… When terrorists and gays hold more power then Christians in America, we are doomed…
STOP SHOWING OR COMMENTING ON THIS BILE, STOP GIVING THEM ANY CONSERVATIVE MEDIA, IGNORE THESE HAGS!!!
Mark Garnett on January 13, 2009 at 7:43 AM
How many guests are invited on The View, and maliciously talked about while they wait in the green room before the enter they
Lion’s DenWitches’ coven? And ironically the women on The View think it’s Ann Coulter who’s the mean and nasty one.Buy Danish on January 13, 2009 at 7:46 AM
who wastes their time watching this crap anyway?
gatorboy on January 13, 2009 at 8:13 AM
C’mon, Whoopi, why so genteel? You’re betraying your gender with this daintiness! Why not muse on which person on the View smells more like a carp that’s been dead for three days?
Sheesh! I guess these are the fruits of gender “equality.” Now women are disgustingly coarse, too. Progress.
smellthecoffee on January 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Why would she subject herself to these yapping idiots? I get that you have to sell a book, but do her publishers really think that she’s going to change one mind that watches that brain dead liberal POS show?
RWLA on January 13, 2009 at 8:52 AM
I also hate how they shout over each other. Every interview Ive seen with Ann has been like that. The whole panel are morons…well,except for Elizabeth, maybe.
I would love to throw shoes at these “ladies”.
becki51758 on January 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Because there are not any conservatives who make the same points as she does. Go read one of her books before you ask silly question like that.
Some topics other conservatives will not touch.
Joe Mcarthy was a hero and she gives reason why with footnotes.
The left lies continously from Ethel Rossenberg was not a spy to Sarah Palin had her daughters baby.
Most of the right won’t tie this pattern together and call it like it really is. They are traitors
Transmutation(the part of evoultion that says one species can become another) is a crock of shit, not one speck of proof to back this up. Never happened and never will.
Scientist will even admit this now, the cloak the word evoultion around lots of things that are true(like natural selection etc) but the central point of one species can evolve into another is as looney as believing in the tooth fairy.
I could go on and on but with idiots like you it does no good.
Ann rules, you suck.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Good point there. They don’t exactly have a leg to stand on here.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Glad to see you survived last night. She who shall not be named sure spends a lot of time saying she’s a Conservative while cutting all the Conservatives on this site down. And Surfer Dude was downright hateful. And I saw my favorite, the atheist of the alternative lifestyle, made her appearance , too. Hateful people whining about how hateful Ann Coulter and Conservatives in general are. Funny.
kingsjester on January 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM
I was asking YOU how you define it. If you can’t define it just say so and admit its simply a pejorative term that you have don’t understand.
True_King on January 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Need to clean house at The View. Fire the hags and replace with Coulter, Hamm, Malkin and Ingraham. First guest? Whoopi.
Better wear a helmet, girl.
whitetop on January 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM
He defines it as someone who does not agree him.
Why ? Because he can not make a logical arguement any other way. That is just how weasels roll.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Well, if one pregnant teen watched this and gave her child up for adoption to a good home, it was worth it.
hawksruleva on January 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I’d watch!
hawksruleva on January 13, 2009 at 10:02 AM
As Ann mentioned she’d like to get off the
“tone” of what was being said & get back to the “substance” of what was being said, I sighed bcs these harpies are all about the “tone” i.e. ‘feelings’. They don’t care about substance or facts.
Behar bringing up Palin was confusing-WTF? did it have to do with anything.
And single motherhood IS destructive, even when it happens by accident, like when the man dies.
Kids need BOTH parents & that is something we all instinctively know, but evidently the myth is still out there that a woman can be both father & mother to a child.
This is how we get the feminization of men in our society.
We need more real men in this world.
Badger40 on January 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM
I’ve seen worse with Coulter interviews. Fortunately, Behar was stifled. Probably too much substance for her to contribute intelligently so she had to try to divert with the Palin comment. Elizabeth fell for it but fortunately got back on topic quickly.
IMO. Coulter has a good point about glorifying single mothers. It’s a fact that they are glorified in various media, especially film and music. Not sure what Whoopie was saying about the statistics being debunked. Would help if she could provide a source.
Male entertainers and athletes as role models is another issue that needed addressing. With multiple children from multiple mothers and the constant stalking of more victims by these role models has to affect the behaviour of young men who wish to emulate them or use them as an excuse to act the way they do.
Like everything else with Liberals, the key is to create as many victims as possible in all social categories to provide more “assistance” and therefore continue to grow big government. It ain’t rocket science but you’ll never get Liberals to see it that way. They always see it through the lens that mean conservatives are getting rich on the backs of society’s poor.
Mr_Magoo on January 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I wish Ann, when criticized for not showing compassion to these unwed mothers generating future prison inmates, would have said that this “compassion” and patronizing is a major cause of this problem since it eliminates associated shame. Compare the statistics 50 years ago, when shame was associated with unwed motherhood, with the illegitimacy now. Big difference.
Chessplayer on January 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Ann is spot on, that’s the real reason her books sell, if her writing style drive liberals wild then that’s just awful. its also just too damn bad.
Speakup on January 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Combined… the View panel (and their audience) don’t have the IQ that Ann does… and it shows.
mankai on January 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Coulter kicked butt and that joke of a serious show coudn’t take it.
JIMV on January 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Estrogen overdose. Or whatever female hormone there is after menopause.
nk on January 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM
King, fundamentalists of all stripes believe that they have attained some sort of higher knowledge of “The Truth”. No doubt, no uncertainty. They cling to entrenched positions based on their versions of “The Truth” even in the face of reasoned arguments or contradictory evidence. Hope that helps.
dakine on January 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Coulter would have been fully aware of the nastiness she would face on The View. Wanted the publicity it would engender. The View wanted the audience. Win, win!
jeanie on January 13, 2009 at 12:21 PM
This is my problem with Coulter – we are all individuals but she aspires to draw her readers into this sort of groupthink collaborative/coop where everyone is expected to choose her way or the highway. Everyone loses their individual footing, which in itself is a very Left Wing position.
It almost seems like an oxymoron in some respects. And amzingly so – everyone who calls BO The One better look a wee bit closer – she is That One on The Right for sure. All they seem to care about is that she can throw out insults and quips.
Watching Conservtaives slobber over her is like watching Joy Behar slobber over Michel Moore or Bill Maher, it’s repulsive.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Money, book sales.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Coulter is tough (and very hot.)
revolution on January 13, 2009 at 12:40 PM
In case there is anyone still wondering how the leftist mind works, it’s like this. First, find a charismatic leader who will take from “them” and give to “us.” For many years, they didn’t have such a charismatic leader. Now they do. Second, attack everyone who might oppose the charismatic leader until they are silenced. If one attack fails against the opposition, switch to another. As the charismatic leader is likely to be a douche, the only effective way to defend him is to make personal attacks against the opposition. Eventually this leads to shooting anyone who opposes the charismatic leader. Eventually the charismatic leader is no discredited or maybe he left town, and then you switch to the next charismatic leader
indythinker on January 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Wrong, reading your bizarre post is repulsive
You keep on insulting her but you don’t say what it is exactly you disagree with.
Anybody can throw out quips and insults and only an idiot would say that is the only reason people like her. In fact if that truly worked there would be fifty copycat bookwriters as succesfull as she is but there is not.
Where exactly does she say it is her way or the highway. You can say the same thing about anybody who has any crticism of anything.
They criticize because they think they are right otherwise why critizie. I could say the same thing about you and we could just go around in circles.
‘ Everyone loses their individual footing ‘ you say
How in the hell do you know everybody loses there individual footing. Did you ask them ?
Your arguements are typical left wing onsense. You think Ann is bad so..anybody who does not agree with you is a mental case.
You win the David Gergen award for the stupidest most mealy mouth post of the year.
If Ann Coulter said something to you in person you would run and hide
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 1:36 PM
kang, Couter’s good at selling her books and she’s a somewhat entertaining (although derivative) writer. However, she’s also sort of an immature bully and not nearly as smart as you or she thinks she is. Most every time I’ve seen her seriously engaged in a debate she resorts to her usual schtick and moves to her talking points and so-called “satire”. Like I said, she’s good at what she does, but you’re giving her way too much credit. BTW, April would kick your backside all up and down any thread, and she’s far from left wing.
dakine on January 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM
April is just as mean spirited as she accuses Coulter of being.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Dak
Neither You or your buddy could kick my little sister up and down any thread much less me.
How do you know how smart I think she is ? I can say for a fact she is smarter and more succesfull than you or ding dong april.
I can just read your post and figure that out.
You don’t like what I say tough shit. Wacha gonna do about it tough guy?
Immature bully, you mean like calling everybody who likes ann coulter an idiot. You just insulted about 8 or 9 million people. Not to mention the arrogance of it
If you want to spew bullshit unchallenged go to different site otherwise STFU.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 2:03 PM
As proof of your mental midgetry I give you this quote by you above.
By your own definition you are a fundamentalist.
My guess is you are the only preson who give ‘reasoned arguments’ while your victim is always stuck in there own ‘truth’.
That about sums you up.
You need to a shrink. Seriously do you have any idea how weird and stupid you sound?
Get back meds and step away from the computer
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Coulter is tough (and very hot.)
Dude, puuhlease!! She’s tough, but she is NOT hot. Not even mildly. Start with the “Newport’s for breakfast” voice and work your way to the face. It’s an automatic recipe for going limp.
RWLA on January 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Here I will play nice
Why exactly is Ann Coulter a buffoon?. please oh please expand. Can’t wait to hear your ‘reasoned arguement’.
And try not to say she is a Tranny(already heard that classy ‘reasoned arguement’)
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Is Coulter a virgin? If not, then there is always the chance that she may have (had?) an abortion or be a single mother. That’s just reality.
If a traditional family is so important to her belief system, why doesn’t she partake in it? She has chosen to be single and to not take part in the most important aspect of our country’s morals – traditional family values. Why?
Look, Ann Coulter is an entertainer as is Rush Limbaugh. People need to realize that this is how she (they) make money. They try to say such outrageous things that people will want to buy the book to see the “50-car pile up.” It’s entertainment, people. As soon we accept that, we can get on to talking about something important.
If you don’t like celebrities, then don’t talk about Ann Coulter. This is her gig. She isn’t a television or movie star. She is a pundit star. She knows exactly what she is saying, where she should be saying it, and how to sell what she is saying. She is someone who knows her market and is using her marketing skills to her best ability. Next thing you know, she will be having her own reality TV show.
Sally S on January 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I doubt it, I’m pretty fearless, I grew up in Manhattan during the 80s.
Just like her – you are a bully and you resort to personal attack and smears to try to win your arguement.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
If you admit to me winning the arguement then I take back all of the really mean and vile stuff I said about you now or in the future.
Thanks for the compliment about me being like her btw
I just get so sick of people slamming her and never touching one arguement she makes in any of her books.
I want to hear her arguments challenged or rebuted with some facts for a change rather then oh she is tranny or she wears the same dress all the time.
This is a pattern amongst her critics which tells me her arguements are solid.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Exactly, and how dare she attack single mothers.
Laura Ingraham just adopted a little girl and is a single mother.
Are we all supposed to think this is a bad thing – strong financially secure women reaching out to a child in need?
B-u-l-l-c-r-a-p.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Ann’s arguments are solid. However, her critics aren’t informed enough to see that.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Listen, she uses insults and smear tactics to make a point, and how do you feel about Laura Ingraham being a single mother?
You believe she is incapable of raising a child who isn’t headed to the slammer and a life of crime?
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 2:55 PM
You believe Laura Ingraham is incapable of raising a child who isn’t headed to the slammer and a life of crime?
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 2:55 PM
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Ann is not talking about strong financially secure women adopting children, although a stable two parent family is still the ideal. Ann is talking about welfare queens (my words). Girls that start having babies at 16, go on welfare and continue having babies with different fathers, all living off of government assistance. These children are raised by single women, no fathers, in the worst economic situations. These children grow up to continue the pattern set by their single moms. They live off the government and often turn to gangs and crime. They are the main cause of the problems of poverty in the inner cities.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM
As I said in another thread, the Palin girl (don’t remember her first name) is a single mother. Does Coulter criticize her? I don’t read enough Coulter to know if she does criticize her, but she has to if she is to be consistent with her argument.
Sally S on January 13, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Wrong, she cites Hollywood single mothers in her example, and these types of single mothers as adding to the problem.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:05 PM
They do add to the problem. They make it acceptable so more 16 year old girls who look to Hollywood as the norm see nothing wrong with it. As far as the Palin girl, if she were to go on welfare and continue to have babies on government assistance than she would also be part of the problem. Our culture is advancing lifestyle choices that do not strengthen our society but rather diminish it.
April, you mention your father in positive ways. Do you think your life would have been as full if he had not been around and you had been raised by only your mom? I’m sure she is wonderful and would have done a good job but don’t you think you would have missed out on a lot if you had not had your father in your life?
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM
So this is the issue with Ann’s book. The single mother thing.
I used to listen to Laura’s radio show so I know a little about the girl she adopted from south america I think it was.
Don’t think this is exactly what Ann’s book was referring to but I think Laura did a good thing.
Laura tryed to find a mate but it didn’t work out and she found herself in a postion she could care for and had the finances to take care of a child.
More power to her is what I say. She is going to give this little girl an amazing life.
I think Ann’s book deals more with the the single mom who is 21 and working at a minium wage job and really didn’t do much planning before she decided to meet a boy have sex then have a child.
They didn’t understand the impact of it all and saw from TV how great being a single mom is and what a valid option it was. Most girls are not Madonna or Laura Ingraham and I really don’t think she is being critical of women who get divorced with kids. She is being critical of the popular culture that says this is a ok for anybody.
She is talking about unwed mother in our population as whole
The facts are what they are about kids raised by single parents and crime like it or not.
I was raised by a single mom(by divorce) and I am lovable and smart so it can be done.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Well if those idiots on The View knew how to debate they would have brought up both Bristol Palin and Laura Ingraham to her.
She has a tendency to blame everything wrong with America on The Left like Michael Moore and Bill Maher and Joy Bhar and Rosie blame The Right.
You cannot generalize and broad brush, and she does this everytime.
She makes Right leaning people – who normally stand for individuality, liberty and free market values and thought – act more like Left Wing robots crawling behind her picking up her crumgs, it’s really unsettling.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Why would someone as wonderful as Laura not find a husband? Now that I don’t understand. Laura is incredible.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM
The problem with the women on the View is that they don’t want Laura to present her opinions. They attack from the very beginning and don’t allow her to speak. I would like to see Ann in a setting where she is allowed to present her arguments without the interruptions. It appears that the View women are trying to prove how brave they are because they can shout down Ann.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Now I can see how this touched a nerve with single moms
Go read the chapter and report back.
Taking this way to personal.
The advice is sound(ask your grandma about it).
1.Find boy
2. Get married
3. then have kids in that order
What happens to much now days
1. girl has kids then
2. looks for husband
Not optimal for you or the kids. Thins the field of elgible hot guys. Guy doesn’t know if you want him or just a daddy for your children.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM
But kangie – here’s my problem.
She cites single mothers in Hollywood, which would be financially equivalent to Laura, she isn’t an actress but she is a star pundit – as doing this and glorifiying it.
She is inferring that by these capable Hollywood type women doing this – they are setting examples for young girls who are incapable of the task – they are making these young women want to go out and do it on their own without a man.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I meant to say they don’t want Ann to present her opinions. I was still thinking of Laura from my previous post. Although I am sure they would treat Laura the same way.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM
She was engaged but was diagnosed with breast cancer and he broke the engagement. He obviously wasn’t good enough for her, she’s better off.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Thank you April, I didn’t know that about Laura. She is better off. I hope she doesn’t give up and finds someone who will appreciate the amazing women that she is.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM
I mean woman, I need to proof read.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:29 PM
An addendum – she is adding to the arguement this assumption – that these Hollywood women setting this bad example to these incapable young women – are all Left Wing.
Very dangerous, because it is not so black & white.
But then again her books are designed to piss off the Conservative who tends to look at the glass half empty, so I guess she is achieving her goal – making money off of their unhappy hides.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:30 PM
There is a reason behinf the madness
Go lookup something on google called ‘Critical theory’ I think the guy was named marcuse or something like that.
A radical leftist from the late fiftys that had a theory in order to bring down capitalism without violence one way to do this was a constant barge of criticism of all the social institution(nuclear faimly, church, nation, authority in general).
And just look how successful they have been at it through a variety of means but mostly through media.
Another book on the history of this is David Horowitz(a former leftist now on our side ‘A radical son’
This is basically what Ann is doing in reverse, challenging the most dear things to the liberal heart.
Joe Mcarthy was bad
Evoultion and Global warming are fact etc etc
Mocking them just for the sake of it is an effective way to defeat Poltical correctness.
Notice how they want to ban her form the airwaves but no conservtive dare say the same about ‘bill mahr’
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Once again you get your hackles up because your idols in hollywood were exposed. Two parents are ideal for kids, but if they are stuck with just one that is better than nothing, however, it is no reason to celebrate the status. Ingram being a conservative will at least spend time with the child, as opposed to your crowd which will simply take the kids away from their nanny when cameras are around.
And another thing, what is this garbage with annointing all women sainthood simply because they got knocked up. Stray cats do it all the time. What is it about having a uterus which makes the gender beyond reproach?
For the record I am married and have 2 kids.
ClassicCon on January 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I think that is where the two Ann camps disagree. I believe Ann writes the books she writes because she wants to put forth her arguments. Yes she makes money doing it but that is what authors do. People may not like her style, but her motive is to persuade. Dry books are not read very widely. Controversial books are. A bigger audience means more exposure. I guess you have to apply the same standard you apply to obnoxious film makers, if you don’t like their work or their words than ignore them. These film makers are also making money. They are no different.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Whoopi Goldberg talked a lot in that video and NOT ONCE did Whoopi ever say anything that could be considered part of an intellectual argument.
Q: Why does Whoopi think that Ann not being married and having children somehow makes her unable to talk about the statistics concerning single mothers and the crime their children commit?
A: Because liberalism is a mental disorder.
TheMightyQuinn on January 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM
I for one hope Ann is around making her arguments for a long time.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Oh I agree with you.
Didn’t think anyone was doing that, but I am happy to say that the men in my life – my father, brothers and husband – love women and respect them and do believe we are here to be worshipped.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Umm, yes it is. Are you even old enough to be lecturing everyone on this? Did you even follow the culture war before the internet? Sounds like somone has been watching a little too much Entertainment Tonight, but you are from Manhattan so I am not surprised.
ClassicCon on January 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Her books are not designed to piss off conservative,its the other way around.
Go to Barnes and Noble and take a look at the number of conservative Authors and Books. Mostly redundant and preaching to the choir.
Anyway I get where your coming from but just can’t agree.
I think you need to aquire a little more history knowlege on how exactly we got where we are and it is something you won’t learn in school.
Once you understand that you will understand at least where some people like Mark Levin and Ann Coulter and David Horowitz are coming from.
It is a war not dialogue between colleagues that is going on.
The jobs is not to win a debate or be a good sport but to defeat the other side. Play the game just like the left plays it.
You still may not agree with any of it but at least you know what’s up.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM
She never does, it takes her so long to put her thoughts into the sentence/question and then she never allows anyone to answer, or the time is gone because she took so long trying to verbalize her thoughts.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM
No it is not, life is not balck and white.
And if yours is – you have my condolences and pity.
And again – why the personal attacks?
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 3:51 PM
One more analogy and I will get out of this thread
Imagine a bully on a playgound walks up to you and says
I don’t like that shirt don’t ever wear again or you will be sorry.
One could say ‘ uh okay sorry, I’ll never wear it again’
This affect everybody negatively not just one person. The next day the bully see’s another person and torments him.
or One could say ‘F%% off I’ll wear whatever I want’
This affects everybody positivly
If he torments someone most likely it will be this kid who told him to F$$ off and not someone else
He also might be hestiant to screw around with the kid who told him to F$$ off
Exact same thing with these all these guys. Pat B take a lot of heat for the culture war speech. Michell Malkin takes less heat for the Japanes internment book she wrote because of it.
David Horowitz/Michelle Malkin has pies thrown at him on campus and some conservative college kid can speaks on campus unthreatened because of it.
Ann writes these books and goes on these show and gets hammered and Laura Ingraham takes less heat for something she says on the O’reily factor
It is kind of like saying I will say whatever the F$$ I want whenever I want. You wanna mess with somebody mess with me. Her crazy things allows me to say less contrversial things easier.
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM
kang, you’re full of sh*t, and you’re not fooling any right thinking conservatives with your drivel. The worst part is that I believe you actually believe the crap you spew. Go back and read my definition of “fundamentalist”…you’ll quickly recognize yourself. And you think I’m the one who needs a shrink and meds. Give me a break. Tools like you are the reason the conservative movement is in trouble right now.
dakine on January 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM
But you can say the same about both sides in my opinion.
People on the Left could use the same arguement citing womens Lib. Gloris Steinem could say she took the initial heat so women could burn their bras, or whatever they did.
Or Hugh Hefner could say he broke the barriers with Playboy and made it easier for Larry Flynt to sell his magazines.
Or Harvey Milk could be used for gay rights.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Dak,
Hurry up and go back to watching Gilligans Island reruns in your underwear.
You are telling you me you are a right thinking conservative? Are you kidding ?
If you are count me out
I am the reason the conservative movement is the way it is?
Wow I had no clue I was this important. I will give you a shout out next time I am on Fox news or being interviewed by CNN.
I will say ‘hey dipshit dak’
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Oh we were going back and forth on another thread as well. In the end, I’d say we parted on good terms in there. Weird when it happens, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy it.
Certainly. I think all the examples (though I hear the Milk case is debatable) are apt. That doesn’t make it any less true with Coulter though.
As to the rest, man it’s only gotten even uglier in here. Oh, well.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Just once…just once, I’d like to see someone go on that show and offer a concrete argument when those friggen hens start cackling about victimization. I see it going something like this:
Behar/Whoopee/Baba any or all: “But we’re victims in all this…you evil people calling for personal responsibility are victimizing us! If society only provided for the needs of the downtrodden it would be all rainbows and unicorns!”
Guest: /stands and fires up chainsaw and proceeds to chop all of the above into small bits and pieces and replies,”Ok…now who was the victim here? Me, because society didn’t give me everything I felt I was entitled to? Or you because I just chopped you into bits?”
/Cut to commercial break with stunned silence in the audience.
Then again, I’m the guy who thinks we should nuke Mecca…so…I may be a bit biased.
BadMojo on January 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
This is exactly the point. They did make it eaasier
Everytime the right gives they take and then ask for more
If we caved on Gay marriage and Global warming this would not be the end of it and we would get along
The left always has a grievance. This is part of the plan
Go read Saul alinsky’s rules for radials
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
What’s up esthier?
Gilligan’s Island in my drawers? Good one kang…stick to the day job though brah. Don’t want you to starve.
dakine on January 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM
That’s a bit much. Sounds like a horror movie Bill O’Reilly opposed – the one with the guy with the chainsaw.
You know what the bigger problem is?
Barbara censoring everyone – including them.
AprilOrit on January 13, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Dak
You need to work on your insults. I will throw you a bone.
If stumped end sentences in GTFO or STFU or KMA or just add some profanity at the end of your sentences.
for instance
Gives it more punch that way
Refer to peoples intelligence or use regional slurs(
(call someone goober if they are from the south or say gee your F^^ing stupid)
or refer to lack of hygene
Seeing as how you only take a bath on Saturdays .. (then make your point here).
You can always throw the old spelling thing out there but this is way overused and can comeback to bite you .
kangjie on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Not much today, though it’s insanely cold outside and insane warm at my desk.
I see you’re making friends here. Having fun?
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM
It’s really warm here in So. Calif. It feels like early summer.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Is that supposed to be a special insult to southerners?
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Just rub it in.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Sorry Esthier, the only positive thing about living here is the weather so I have to mention it once and a while to feel better.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 5:07 PM
or rather “once in a while”.
Rose on January 13, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Fair enough. I’m just being whiny anyway. Texas is far from the frozen tundra that many people experience this time of year, but I’m not used to the cold. It comes as a shock every year.
Esthier on January 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Yup esthier. Winning friends and influencing people on the internet…boring work day, so anything to liven it up a bit.
kang, no need to direct any insults your way. Your posts sort of speak for themselves, if you know what I mean.
dakine on January 13, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Would somebody PLEASE deliver a case of Midol to the set of the View. Geez, these bitches do go on.
BTW Joy, there is a medical procedure now available to get that stick removed from your arse…Just sayin’.
Ann Coulter….you go girl!
HornetSting on January 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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