Surprise: Obama to issue order to close Gitmo in first week

posted at 4:01 pm on January 12, 2009 by Allahpundit

Maybe on Inauguration Day itself, lest the left have to suffer even one more sleepless night.

It’s unlikely the detention facility at the Navy base in Cuba will be closed anytime soon. In an interview last weekend, Obama said it would be “a challenge” to close it even within the first 100 days of his administration.

But the order, which one adviser said could be issued as early as Jan. 20, would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaida and Taliban suspects and potential witnesses who are being held there. Most have not been charged with a crime.

This is a direct result, no doubt, of progressive consternation at his backtracking yesterday on his promise to close Gitmo in the first 100 days. A compromise, then: He’ll order it closed right out of the chute, just to let them know he’s serious, then take his sweet time on the logistics. They’ve been kicking around Charleston naval base as one possibility for transfer, but it can’t accommodate the sheer numbers of detainees — yet. (A task for the new Obama WPA, maybe?) There are legal logistics to consider too, like what would constitute an “adequate substitute” for habeas under Boumediene if The One plans on using military tribunals instead of federal court (which he might) and, of course, what to do about the fact that some of the “suspects” are inveterate jihadist lunatics and simply can’t be freed under any circumstances.

Here’s a quickie highlight reel of the interview with Stephanopoulos. The Gitmo bit comes right at the beginning.


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The bigger question is where are they sending the detainees.

Hope(R)fully Chicago. Nobody there would notice an increase in crime with all the crime there already.

antoniojvr on January 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM

He should send them to the south side of Chicago to the slums that Rezko use to own, yeah those slums that BHO funneled money through. I hear those slums, the ones BHO promised to fix are sooooo nice.

Mercy4Me on January 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Dave Rywall on January 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Whats wrong with Gitmo?

Itchee Dryback on January 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Send them out to Camp Pendelton in CA. Since the liberals seem to love the terrorist so much why shouldn’t they be close enough for morale visits from the Hollywood crowd?

katiejane on January 12, 2009 at 5:43 PM

This is hysterical.

He’s also issuing a “beginning” of the end of the financial crisis.

It doesn’t sound anything like what he said, but the leftie twits will believe Gitmo is closed.

drjohn on January 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Screw it, let them close it. I’m fatigued making the arguments, hearing the arguments. Let them see the actual results. Let them live (and probably some die) with the results. The disasters this Administration promises to bring on in national security policy will probably result in a Republican in office in 2012. Time for the children to take over from the adults for 4 years, and show what an utter disaster they can make of things.

My bigger concern now is the rights which we will likely permanently lose. Can you say “Permanent Assault Weapons Ban”?

And I don’t doubt that we will see the institution of Nationalized Health Care in the next 4 years. A disaster that the whining classes will never allow us to dismantle once it’s been instituted.

quikstrike98 on January 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM

He’s going to need it to detain healthcare terrorists.

Rae on January 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Someone needs to start cranking out “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN” graphics to accompany every one of these stories.

Gitmo closing, the housing meltdown, Blago and Fitz the Fisherman, the Franken theft, and everything else to come. Because it fits every one of them.

Cylor on January 12, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Who cares what he does? Considering the massive moral, spiritual and economic decay in this poor sick Republic it probably won’t last another ten years anyway.

rplat on January 12, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Elections do have consequences……….

…………. don’t they?

Seven Percent Solution on January 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM

This guy is a complete zero. He doesn’t have a clue what he is doing or of the fallout. To bad there isn’t a way to keep him from being sworn in. We need a major Chicago machine blow up in the next week. After that it will be to late. I never though I would think Joe Biden would be an improvement on anyone but we have reached that point.

duff65 on January 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Gee all Pres George W. Bush had to do was issue an Executive Order saying he was going to close Gitmo (on January 21, 2005 and the left would be sending him hugs and kisses (of course he would then just keep saying, logistics make it impossible to close at this time, but hey my Exec Order says I’m doing it, noooo problemo).

eaglewingz08 on January 12, 2009 at 7:16 PM

The American people asked for it, they’re gonna get it.

Hope and change, right up the wazoo.

Now, this might hurt a little….

quikstrike98 on January 12, 2009 at 7:34 PM

I vote Chicago. Or maybe Deetroit.

JonRoss on January 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM

0bama’s not going to be able to close Gitmo: no U.S. state will take them and their native countries don’t want them back.

Jenfidel on January 12, 2009 at 7:52 PM

we already have GITMO here in Chicago, it’s called Devon Avenue.

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 12, 2009 at 8:34 PM

I believe he said he would close it during the election, however I dont think thats why he was elected. When the economy continues to tank because of his social welfare programs, he wont be a 2nd term’er. Sort of like a Jimmy Carter.

tx2654 on January 12, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Barry–“Bunch of folks”

Correction-Bunch of TERRORIST!!
I guess Barry has a problem with the word.

christene on January 12, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Buy the released GITMO jihadis all some Western style chaps (no rear ends needed) and turn them loose in Frisco in the daytime. They can help out in the anti-Israel demonstrations.
***
“House” them in a tent city on San Fran Nan’s front lawn and wait for the fun when the Folsom Street Fair goes by.
***
John Bibb

rocketman on January 12, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Guess we can kiss Charleston, S.C. vacations goodbye. A once really lovely southern destination will be ruined. Maybe… Hawaii, yeah, that’s it! would be better…

See? It’s not so easy to figure out where to put a bunch of terrorists. Gitmo is actually a fine place…I hear they have game boys now to keep them happy. And my guess is that Gitmo will stay open a lot longer than the Kos Kids think.

marybel on January 12, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Tattoo the terrorist with phrases like “Islam is a lie” and “my best friend is a Jew” and “Mohammad is a pedophile”. THEN send them back to their home countries.

Guardian on January 12, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Actually they could dump them all in Dearborn and no one would notice.

Guardian on January 12, 2009 at 9:41 PM

They’ve been kicking around Charleston naval base as one possibility for transfer

Why not just leave the Jihadis where they are just rename Charleston Naval Base to Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and visa versa? It would be a whole lot simpler, the end result would be the same, a lot of money would be saved and they are both naval bases so I don’t see what the problem would be.

MB4 on January 12, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Give them all a parachute full of gold painted
LEAD bricks and then shove them out of a c130

tell the poor islamo nazis the Gold is a present from
america to them for their so called suffering
And make sure the parachute doesnt work..

jcila on January 12, 2009 at 9:46 PM

What purpose could possibly be served by moving them from one base to another? It wouldn’t change anything.

It was probably a mistake to bring them here. They ought to be tried and convicted in their own countries, where no doubt the justice would be much swifter and final than it ever could here.

All I know is, these people cannot come here, and they cannot be turned loose so His Excellency really has a dilemma on his hands.

NoLeftTurn on January 12, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Dave Rywall can only point out failures but has no solutions. I have a solution send the detainees to Rywalls village.

garydt on January 12, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Enroll them into Bill Ayers’s School of Reeducation and Social Justice. There, they can learn the finer points of destroying a nation by undermining it more subtly.

onlineanalyst on January 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Bush has been working to close Gitmo. What’s Obummer going to do, order up plans for a ‘shovel-ready’ Jihadi-6™?

Earlg on January 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Just arrange for them to have a mass break out from Gitmo into Cuba and let Castro deal with them. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t enjoy having a pack of psychotic islamofacists running around messing up his socialist paradise.

Dreadnought223 on January 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Guess we can kiss Charleston, S.C. vacations goodbye. A once really lovely southern destination will be ruined. Maybe… Hawaii, yeah, that’s it! would be better…

marybel on January 12, 2009 at 9:35 PM

That would be a shame.. Charleston has seen 3 wars and has had enough.

Again, the problem isn’t ‘gitmo’ per say, but the fact that it is outside the US in a legal sort of no man’s land. Maybe I shouldn’t say problem but rather beauty.

Once these pieces of pig poo get into the US, every radical lawyer will be trying to get in on the act. Look for big giant glowing mushrooms over major US cities some time therafter.

bullseye on January 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM

I had a thought earlier. I heard that the pieces of pig poo in Gitmo get a lot of love letters from leftist nitwits here in the US.

If you are near one of your ‘liberal friends’ start the rumor that a lot of those letters are really written by anti-jihadis or new crusaders who use an ink based on pigs blood. Juvenile I know but think of the angst that will cause.

“Oh no achmed.. allah will surely punish me.. No virgins.. I..I ..I put one of those letters near my Koran… oh no”

bullseye on January 12, 2009 at 11:12 PM

I believe this is a leak by his extreme left cohorts in concert with the MSM to force his hand. I have a feeling he did not want this out there but it puts him on a spot with his left base now.

wepeople on January 12, 2009 at 11:22 PM

The solution is simple.

Have Pelosi bring home the bacon — move Gitmo to Alcatras (Prison in the middle of San Francisco Bay that was the location of the final scene in the last X man film). Keep up the current tours so the SF loyal can bring them all the flower power they want…

droofus on January 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM

It’s not so much a matter of problems as to security whilst they’re incarcerated, it’s a matter of our incompetent, leaky justice system subpoenaing classified documents as evidence, and covert informants as witnesses. Compromising sources and methods. And if/when the US Gov’t refuses to produce such data/informants? US Court will release the accused as having insufficient evidence to convict. Of course, their left radical lawyers will do their best to relay intel gathered during court proceedings, to terrorist-affiliated organizations…

quikstrike98 on January 13, 2009 at 12:22 AM

Someone needs to start cranking out “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN” graphics to accompany every one of these stories.

Gitmo closing, the housing meltdown, Blago and Fitz the Fisherman, the Franken theft, and everything else to come. Because it fits every one of them.

Cylor on January 12, 2009 at 6:38 PM

The O-Press Pass.

It’s an ugly graphic befitting the ugliness of our times. No attempts to be subliminal or hypnotic.

S on January 13, 2009 at 12:43 AM

Protect yourself. No one else is going to do it.

Johan Klaus on January 13, 2009 at 12:46 AM

The bigger question is where are they sending the detainees.

Mr. Joe on January 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Send them to West Hollywood, CA. They wanted to hang Sarah Palin (too) in West Hollywood and the neighborhood would keep the terrorists preoccupied and very, very busy.

S on January 13, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Needless to say once the story broke in Australia the plan went down like a lead weight with the Australian public with a lot of people saying Obama can go and get stuffed.

Dreadnought223 on January 12, 2009 at 5:13 PM

That’s refreshing. When I read the initial news about Australia “considering” taking the detainees, I was aghast, couldn’t believe Australia would suddenly become so noodly. It’s refreshing to read that they have not.

S on January 13, 2009 at 1:02 AM

he is also going to save 4 million jobs that week.

rob verdi on January 13, 2009 at 6:32 AM

San Francisco, Chicago, New York City and Okland sound like great places… Maybe even a few to the moronic States of VA., FL., MN., OH., PA. that gave the Messiah his Electorial victory… They DESERVE exactly what they get for voting for this terrorist appeaser and far left radical “Progressive”. We have a Nation full of ignorant people that do not understand that Elections have costs… The cost to America this time around with the Liberals in charge is a very weak posture towards those that intend to KILL US ALL, men, women, children… White, Black, Jew and Gentile… ALL AMERICANS.

A huge thank you to all the idiots who have sold America out to terrorists, radicals and “Progressives”…

The MORONS CHICKENS… ARE COMMING HOME… TO ROOST!!!

Mark Garnett on January 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM

Remember if you will, all the prisoners are innocent. They were wrongfully captured by the imperial American army in an illegal and unjust war started by Bu$hCo and HaliCheney. So since they are all innocent they will be sent home and reunited with their family and friends. And everyone will feel better about themselves, islamists will love America and I think world hunger will be cured too. All on the MESSIAH’s first day in office.

Baby, that is some awesome hope n change right there.

angryed on January 13, 2009 at 7:48 AM

The bigger question is where are they sending the detainees.

They’ll be enrolled and trained in hussein’s new “army”. Heck, they’ll fit right in.

ErinF on January 13, 2009 at 8:04 AM

Chicago or Dearborn sound like good places for them.

becki51758 on January 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM

But the order, which one adviser said could be issued as early as Jan. 20, would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaida and Taliban suspects and potential witnesses who are being held there.

Simply issuing the order will mean to the whacko left that Gitmo’s closed.

But didn’t Bush already start looking into the process of closing Gitmo?

drjohn on January 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Why, yes he did!

http://wcco.com/politics/President.Bush.Gitmo.2.285431.html

drjohn on January 13, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Truly amazing!

I guess he is a messiah…

It’s just like 9/11 magically never even happened!

ErinF on January 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Leave the detainees in downtown SF, Chicago, and Boston with bus passes, a change of clothes, and directions to federal courthouses.

Beagle on January 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Stock up on guns and ammo now. There’s only a handful of days left before they will be unaccessible. My husband said over the past two months, the tax on ammo has gone up a whopping 500%.

There’s no question a second Revolution is coming.

ErinF on January 13, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Leave the detainees in downtown SF, Chicago, and Boston

LOL! These stupid cities will welcome them with open arms, mochachinos, sushi, birkenstocks, and lit marijuana ciggies.

ErinF on January 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM

ErinF,

The key point is to make sure they have access to every level of federal courts. The only other option is move them all to DC, which is the best really.

Beagle on January 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM

would start the process of deciding what to do

That statement sound familiarly empty.

Count to 10 on January 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM

I predict Gitmo will remain in whole or in part throughout Obama’s presidency and beyone and that continual bungling of the Gitmo issue will be a cocklebur in his shorts. It may even be that the Irony may bring attacks on the US that will force Obama to pack more prisoners into Gitmo.

The terrorist prisoners held at Gitmo should remain there until Islam ceases jihad against America, just as kamikaze pilots remained in prison until Japan ceased hostilities against America, in accordance with the Geneva Convention. The Geneva Convention should not be rejected, as liberals implicitly argue, by moving terrorist prisoners from its legal domain to the legal domain of American domestic law. It is hardly justice to elevate the status of terrorists so that they have more rights than legitimate combatants who comply with the Geneva Convention.

Tantor on January 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

By all means, close it! Then, let’s give the inmates green cards! And tax rebates! Why not a certificate good for three nights and a show at a nice casino in Vegas?! That’s bound to make them love us!

morganfrost on January 13, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Duncan Hunter, (son of former Representative Hunter, from San Diego), responded this morning to the possibility of sending the detainees to Camp Pendleton here in North San Diego County. He gave all the reasons why this is insane, plus the obvious fact that Barry is dangerously naive in his placation of his nut-base. They shouldn’t allow these ‘people’ to set foot on American soil because the ACLU will demand that they get their ‘Constitutional rights’. Oh well, when the World Court takes over, they will get things done, by cracky!
In any case, Duncan D. is gathering support from state officials to have San Diego removed from the list…Alcatraz would be perfect if we give it non-US status.

Christine on January 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Let move them to San Francisco…..they will feel at home!

grapeknutz on January 13, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Now wait a minute, a number of highly regarded “conservative” pundits have assured us that teh One is really a moderate who is going to carry on George Bush’s wonderful policies, to the left’s consternation. Was Bush going to close GITMO?

james23 on January 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

I like the idea of Alcatraz, the island prison near San Francisco. If one of the prisoners gets loose, suddenly Pelosi and Babs Boxer will become national-security hawks.

Better put cameras on the underside of the Golden Gate Bridge, looking for things that go bump in the night!

How about another idea–drive them outside the Gitmo fence, and turn them loose, and let el lider maximo Fidel deal with them.

Steve Z on January 13, 2009 at 4:45 PM

One more idea…turn ’em loose and give them a whole continent to themselves–Antarctica. Give ’em a Koran and let them sacrifice penguins for Ramadan. But the Big O might have a problem with PETA–oh, those poor PENGUINS!!!

Steve Z on January 13, 2009 at 4:53 PM

send them to that new visitor center in dc…. you know the a/c one so harry will not have to smell them in the summer.

lexa on January 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Has anyone seen the Drudge story that the Pentagon reports 50 FORMER detainees have RETURNED to terrorist activities after being released? Boy, I’m all warm and glowy inside at the thought of just how safe America is and will be in the comming four years. I’m armed and ready when the battle comes to my neighborhood, and it will…

Mark Garnett on January 14, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Has anyone seen the Drudge story that the Pentagon reports 50 61 FORMER detainees have RETURNED to terrorist activities after being released?

Fixed…

Mark Garnett on January 14, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Maybe Obama can re-program them in his Civilian Defense Camps.:)

Indy928 on January 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM