Pravda: The coming Ice Age
posted at 9:28 am on January 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Plenty of people e-mailed me the latest from Pravda, a warning that the Earth will shortly enter a new Ice Age and that we’d all better start learning from Minnesotans how to deal with cold weather …. really cold weather. Those who think global warming is bunk might enjoy the cold schandenfreude of glaciation, but I’d say this theory suffers from the same problems that Goreism does:
The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science. Many sources of data which provide our knowledge base of long-term climate change indicate that the warm, twelve thousand year-long Holocene period will rather soon be coming to an end, and then the earth will return to Ice Age conditions for the next 100,000 years.
Ice cores, ocean sediment cores, the geologic record, and studies of ancient plant and animal populations all demonstrate a regular cyclic pattern of Ice Age glacial maximums which each last about 100,000 years, separated by intervening warm interglacials, each lasting about 12,000 years.
Most of the long-term climate data collected from various sources also shows a strong correlation with the three astronomical cycles which are together known as the Milankovich cycles. The three Milankovich cycles include the tilt of the earth, which varies over a 41,000 year period; the shape of the earth’s orbit, which changes over a period of 100,000 years; and the Precession of the Equinoxes, also known as the earth’s ‘wobble’, which gradually rotates the direction of the earth’s axis over a period of 26,000 years. According to the Milankovich theory of Ice Age causation, these three astronomical cycles, each of which effects the amount of solar radiation which reaches the earth, act together to produce the cycle of cold Ice Age maximums and warm interglacials. …
The central piece of evidence that is cited in support of the AGW theory is the famous ‘hockey stick’ graph which was presented by Al Gore in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.” The ‘hockey stick’ graph shows an acute upward spike in global temperatures which began during the 1970s and continued through the winter of 2006/07. However, this warming trend was interrupted when the winter of 2007/8 delivered the deepest snow cover to the Northern Hemisphere since 1966 and the coldest temperatures since 2001. It now appears that the current Northern Hemisphere winter of 2008/09 will probably equal or surpass the winter of 2007/08 for both snow depth and cold temperatures.
The main flaw in the AGW theory is that its proponents focus on evidence from only the past one thousand years at most, while ignoring the evidence from the past million years — evidence which is essential for a true understanding of climatology. The data from paleoclimatology provides us with an alternative and more credible explanation for the recent global temperature spike, based on the natural cycle of Ice Age maximums and interglacials.
If I had to pick one theory to cheer, it would be global warming. At least it provides more hope for agriculture and sustenance. A new Ice Age would limit the land on which we could grow food and lead to massive starvation. I’m also disinclined to put much trust in Pravda on any story, given its history of propaganda and deception.
Unfortunately for global-warming enthusiasts, Pravda at least has the mechanisms correct. They correctly state that the release of CO2 comes from warming, and not the other way around. The fact that the world has gotten cooler over the last decade and especially in the last two years demonstrates that CO2 doesn’t have the greenhouse effect predicted by computer climate models based only on the last 1000 years. Instead, Pravda rightly notes that real climatology has to account for much longer-term modeling and that the “hockey stick” graph, already discredited, provides no real insight into true climate change.
But for the same reasons, I doubt that a new Ice Age sits around the corner from present day, nor does Pravda actually report that it does. We are working in “ridiculously narrow” time frames for discussion of global warming or cooling. What we’re seeing is weather, and humanity has little to no impact on it. The recent cooling and the expansion of polar ice should make that clear, and we should return to more pressing issues — such as rational energy policies that improve standards of living rather than seek to return us to some imaginary pre-Industrial Age nirvana.









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Wait until Al Gore see this Ha Ha!
kanda on January 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Personally I think Pravda and Al Gore are both wrong. It is highly unlikely that the earth will freeze or thaw. I’ll remain what it is, a nice place to live.
kanda on January 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Our Pravda vs. their Pravda?
Hmmm
artist on January 12, 2009 at 9:33 AM
At least the beer will be cold . . .
NoDonkey on January 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM
The Sun is clearly quieter and the long term forecast is for colder. Ice age? Hopefully not! There is a danger that belief in global warming will adversely affect our freedoms, our pocket books and our ability to adapt to a colder world. We need to be drilling like crazy to produce more energy lest we freeze!
Meanwhile, Europe considers a ban on plasma TVs!
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM
It is indeed ironic that the truth about anthropogenic global warming comes not from our own free press, which has been silenced by political correctness, but rather from the former Soviet News agency, Pravda. The charlatans and mountebanks on the left, in their gaudy attempt to further consolidate government power, continue to make outrageously unscientific claims to support the lunacy of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).
My favorite quote from a global warming fanatic which manages to simultaneously underestimate our current financial crisis and to get it completely 100% wrong about global warming: “you can bail out the economy, you cannot bail out the environment.” – John Doerr October 2008 Harvard Business Summit.
And so, we must ask ourselves, “Cui Bono?” To whose benefit does just irrational alarmism accrue? The simple answer would be the advocates of big government control. But another, more sinister answer, must also be considered. Precisely those with the most to gain from such scaremongering seem to be its most ardent advocates. Two examples come to mind: John Doerr and former vice-president Al Gore both at Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, heavy investors in carbon credits.
I used to think AGW would result in the greatest government boondoggle of all time. I was wrong. The greatest government boondoggle of all time will doubtlessly be the government bailout of our economy which, at 2 trillion and counting, will eclipse anything we’ve seen so far by the denizens of the left in their relentless pursuit of maximizing government power and control.
Charles Martel on January 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Obama climate czar has socialist ties; Group sees ‘global governance’…
Drudge (WATIMES)
artist on January 12, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Theirs is more truthful on this account. Ours are nothing but a bunch of lying scumbags who don’t even pursue profits.
progressoverpeace on January 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Ed,
Pravada is correct that this was the theory taught in climatology classes. I learned it. It makes sense and is mathamatically correct. It also gives the proper credit to that big ball of fire in the Sky. the tilt of the earth and its rotation is what gives us the seasons. the weather as you say. It is not a stretch and it is verifiable that that the earth’s tilt, rotation, speed of rotation etc all change over time. This change would impact the weather and climate as it does every three months. The christmas day earthquake and Tusami actually shook the world. knocking the earth off its axis by a small degree. Even the distance between the moon and earth effects the tides and the weather and thus the long term climate to some degree.
Glaciers are the norm for earth not the exception. The geologic record says so. Long spans of geologic time shows the earth and esp the northern Hempishere is usally covered in mile think ice sheets.
Think of the climate around the great lakes the lake effect snow and rain. All of this local climate is relatively new because the lakes themselves were only formed with the retreat fot he glaciers 20,000 years ago.
Climate changes and with the Sun at a miuniums and the rotations of the earth coming into alignment we are indeed going to go into a new ice age. Will it be in the next 50 years? 100 years or 1,000 years no one knows but sooner or later the Northern Hempishere will be covered in ice. And your home will be under that ice.
Yes it will mean massive migration, and massive starvation and I’m sure world war. I’m hopiung it takes a 1,000 years so that humans can learn to live in peace.
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Better rev up my SUV (Jeep Wrangler) and head this problem off.
Tommy_G on January 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM
It might be Pravda doing this reporting but they have the science essentially correct. The contact I have had in the past with Russian scientists, those that operate in the earth science field, indicates to me that they do pretty good work when removed from any political pressures. They do know the specifics of cold.
Everything I see does point to a little ice age down the road. Don’t expect Al Gore to acknowledge that fact.
Yoop on January 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Uh, anybody want to buy some slightly used carbon credits?
davidk on January 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
It’s already happening! The high at the end of the week is forecasted to be lower than the average low.
Run everybody–the sky is falling–again.
davidk on January 12, 2009 at 9:43 AM
An ice age would provide a much-needed thinning of the herd.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Might be of some benefit to consider the relative merits of being wrong on either one of these hot and cold theories. If we’re wrong on AGW, the earth gets 1 degree hotter per century. If we’re wrong on the coming ice age, catastrophic end of civilization.
Fortunately I have some Florida real estate if anyone up north is interested.
sleepyhead on January 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Meanwhile, Detroit is stuck building electric cars that no one in their right mind will buy, though dems are licking their chops thinking about taxing gas enough to being it back up to $4 (as the idiot messiah talked about his liking of high gas prices). More bailout money, please … $150 billion should do it … for another year or so.
Sheesh.
progressoverpeace on January 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Well, we better all get off our butts and start generating MORE carbon dioxide!
singlemalt_18 on January 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
All this is common knowledge.
Or at least it was before the left got their hooks into grade school science.
TheSitRep on January 12, 2009 at 9:46 AM
I remember in the cold cold ’70′s when people wondered if the Soviet Union was messing with the weather. Obviously this is a cover up for their evil plan to freeze out Europe and the world!
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
At least the Pravda article didn’t toss aside the historical record to prove their point. There have been ice ages, and there have been warm periods between the ice ages. We’re in a warm period, and there will be another ice age. Will it happen in the next 40 years? Probably not. But we can detect these changes in the Earth’s orbit.
Nethicus on January 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
But, I thought this global warming was all settled science. Algore said so at Davos a few years ago. The UN said so, too.
Now, Pravda operating under the leadership of a band of Siberian snow pimps tells us otherwise?
Methinks a new Cold War is upon us…
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Yoop on January 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
I agree except I think it will be more than a little ice age. This spring will tell the tale I think. If the snow cover lingers for longer than last year we are in trouble. You have positive and negative feedback loops that cause changes in climate long term. Longer snow cover is one part of a feedback loop for a start of an ice age. Along with a solar mininum, more sea ice, more cloud cover.
You add in a massive volcanic eruption which is also due and we are in trouble as a species for the long term. Like I said these things take time and there is nothing we can do about it accept prepare. I’m think in the next 10-50 years we will know famine again in this country and in Canada.
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Good thing American’s are obese! We have a better shot at making it!
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Now the Libs will launch a preemptive nuclear war on Russia.
For some things there just no room for “dialog”.
the_nile on January 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM
In geological terms, “about to enter an ice age” could mean anytime in the next 5000 years.
(The same with any eruption of the Yellowstone super volcano.)
MarkTheGreat on January 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM
And, if you move over one column, you have Pravda telling us that the Russian military is going to buy drones from Israel, and that this is bad for Russia because some minister said Russia might not be able to produce the drones on its own, and of course this is unpatriotic because Russian industry can produce anything.
Every article has a political bent of some type. Pravda appears to be a place where truth consists of someone sharpening a knife on someone else.
The military section has a click-show of current American fighters, including some I don’t think we’ve fielded. My favorites are the F15-Eadle, the F-111 Aardrark, and the advanced F-6A Skyray. They have a great picture of a Navy F-5G Tigershark painted in “Communist aggressor” colors.
Then there’s the articles, such as “Sanctimonious Hypocritical Preaching by the Imperials”, “Eight Years of Hell are Over”, and “Obama the Chicken”. If you don’t like reading about America, move on over to the “Russia to Retrieve its Status of World’s Strongest Superpower” section of the newspaper, where you can read more about America.
unclesmrgol on January 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM
It’s lucky you have J K Thompson Builders and Remodeling quality on that deck railing. Otherwise, the rail might freeze off and that source-of-heat grill take a plunge off the edge.
eeyore on January 12, 2009 at 9:52 AM
the_nile on January 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Well, at least it would melt a lot of snow and ice… /s
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Climate Change(tm) is better than Global Warming(tm), it covers every possible scenario and trend.
Amazing snake oil salesmen will stop at nothing to gouge our government and our weak minded (read; Hollywood high school drop outs and Harvard losers [paging Al Gore]) chicken littles into driving the sheeple to their slaughter.
I’m looking forward to a winter wonderland.
Geministorm on January 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Run everybody–the sky is falling–again.
davidk on January 12, 2009 at 9:43 AM
no one says the sky is falling. It is just getting colder. Cold is more dangerous than heat will ever be.
As a person with a BS degree in earth science I understand and agree with Pravda. the AGW folks decided to forget science and cherry pick the dat to further their own careers and political leanings.
the fact is that we will have another ice age. The question is when. these things take time to form. I think we are at the beginning of one now. Does that mean that ice will be in NYC in the next 100 years? of course not.
But it does mean that we will have smaller growing seasons in Canada and the Northern USA and Russia. the breadbaskets of the world which could put presseure on our food sdources. Technology should be able with hydroponics and such to be able to pick up the slack for awhile. No one is saying the end of the world is coming. Humans can live in an ice age we have before. It just will be different.
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Good thing American’s are obese! We have a better shot at making it!
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM
you say obese I say famine resistant.
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Ha!
Quote of the Day nomination here folks!
Geministorm on January 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM
…and meanwhile my best bud, who moved from our home state of Wisconsin down to Florida, now thinks he can see his breath when it’s 65 degrees out.
I am so sick of this worthless horseshit about Global Warming/Global Cooling/Climate Change/Excessive Carbon Dioxide/Buy Al Gore’s New Book. The only thing worse is how many average people buy the spiel without even trying to understand more than a 1st-grade level comprehension of the science that proves otherwise.
MadisonConservative on January 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Well…the fossil record IS famous for mass extinctions.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on January 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Not if Yellowstone erupts.
Darth Executor on January 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM
CyberCipher on January 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM
nay we will just kill the dogs and take their coats like man of old. We will be glad we saved the polar bears as we seek their coats to stay warm…
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Also unleashing a tsunami of nice as Canadians flee south in great numbers.
Greg Toombs on January 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I’m with ya, Ed. Usually being right is great… but in this case, it sucks. Sure, I get to mock global warmists and have that outcast feeling of camaraderie with fellow “deniers”… but in the end, it’s actually getting colder… which sucks. FYI, it is currently 8F here, with -1F windchill, here in VT. The highs in my 10 day forecast are mostly single digits and teens… and this follows a unusually brutal cold and snowy December.
RightWinged on January 12, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I personally wouldn’t subscribe to this theory myself, but whether or not it shows problems, the effect is the same: global warming skeptics can no longer be laughed off.
This might actually be a blessing in disguise, if the Dems fall lock step behind their heroes.
Ryan Gandy on January 12, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I’d rather freeze to death than have ass-balls breath.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Frankly, I think Gore and company know this, and had intended to take credit for it. The first order of business for socialists is to create a crisis, and what better than global warming that their socialist solution ‘solved’?
Vashta.Nerada on January 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM
The point is that we can’t do anything to prevent either condition from happening if it’s going to happen.
aero on January 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM
SUV running in driveway – Heat on full-blast – Doors open
marklmail on January 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Has anyone ever heard of a thing called “Global Warming”?
I have been interested in the concept, would love to see some data and information about it, maybe even a movie or someone famous who can speek to the subject.
/facepalm
Mark Garnett on January 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM
C’mon now, th only reason we’re even talking about climate change is because the Goreacle brought it to the forefront of thought and discussion.
/sarc
JetBoy on January 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Looks like Arizona will continue to be one of the fastest growing states. Come on down, y’all. We can use more conservatives and there are a LOT of houses on the market right now!
Tucson is beautiful this time of year and skiing is only an hour away on Mt. Lemmon which is having another great snow year.
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Hopefully, we’ll be so broke that we cannot afford to implement any solutions to either ‘problem’.
Vashta.Nerada on January 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM
The point is that we can’t do anything to prevent either condition from happening if it’s going to happen.
aero on January 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM
correct. It is time humans learn humility again. We can only prepare. Start by increasing you food pantry. Not for the coming ice age or for global warming but for the basic reason they we do not know when the next crisis will occur and having enough food to last at least a month is just common sense. Second learn to fend for yourselves be it hunting, fishing, mechanic etc. It is always a good idea to be an “everyman” kind of individual that a foucused person with only one skill that may or may not be needed during a crisis.
We can only prepare ourselves for crisis not change what will happen.
humans have become too full of themselves. God I think has a lesson planned for us soon…
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Personally, I think that it is disgusting that we need to read Pravda to get the truth. Our MSM should be abolished, and replaced with truly independent outlets, with all articles vetted for accuracy before being published. I realize that it is censorship, but if it works to our benefit, so be it.
OldEnglish on January 12, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Yep, there’s the gutter ball in everybody’s game.
The magma chamber is a bit restless. Watch Al Gore offer a book soon on harmonic tremors… ;-)
Yoop on January 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Just came back in from doing “motor stables” ( a common term understood by any former GI from the 60-70′s) and my Mercedes is presently running outside, will be for another ten or twenty minutes. It is about 15 degrees right. This town is covered in snow and ice. My neighbor asked me where I was going when I fired up the Mercedes. I told him I was just running it to charge the battery, get the oil and fluids moving. He told me that I shouldn’t do it. It would cause more global warming. Told him to go read Pravda. He had the most confused look on his face as he walked back to his house.
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Everyone is selling something. Follow the money in all cases.
a capella on January 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM
coldwarrior on January 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Yet another reason I love to live out in the country no nosey neighbors
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM
He said that with a straight face? On a 15 degree day?
Does he get confused looking uphill?
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Did you realize your neighbor was a moron at that moment, or did you already know as much?
Make a call over to his house and ask if he has any carbon dioxide emitters he could turn on to help warm things up…
Geministorm on January 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I’ve been telling my family these things for the last 2 years. The more self-reliant you are the better off you will be in the coming years.
thomasaur on January 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Al Gore: “Net Net Net!”
Tipper Gore: “Al, can you turn up the thermostat, I am cold!”
Mr. Joe on January 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I recommend going here
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
This is the distressingness (new word!) of all of this. Folks buy the lie. Politicians enact policies that take away freedoms and money from the USA. Russia and China have the good sense to mine fossil fuels and burn them.
We have California as a shining example of a state with huge oil resources offshore, but instead of drilling and paying off their debt, they are afraid of global warming and oil spills.
Al Gore, Barack Obama, and “global change” believers are making this country weaker whether they realize it or not.
Ordinary1 on January 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Oh they realize it. A weaker nation is more pliable and receptive to ‘saviors’
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 10:22 AM
You missed your opportunity to sell him some carbon offsets…Here
I especially like the chocolate, it only costs him $4.95…
right2bright on January 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Thnx Limey, bookmarked it to go with others.
thomasaur on January 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Who ever thought we’d have to turn to Pravda for some truth about anything? I guess that’s why hell is about to freeze over.
Done That on January 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM
My exact thoughts when this was on Drudge’s front page.
thomasaur on January 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM
We all know what a reliable source Pravda is!
t.ferg on January 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Because you’re all commies.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM
further proof of climate change.
taxes must be raised to give our aristocratic class the power to diminish our lives because we have allowed it.
notagool on January 12, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I remember in 7th grade our science teacher had us watch a documentary that said we were heading for another ice age. This was 28 (Good God..28???) years ago. Then there was global warming…which has naturally morphed to “Climate Change” since it’s getting cooler. Now we’re heading for another ice age.
WTF
rollthedice on January 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Chetien in Chile is much more likely to erupt, and it could easily be a Tambora sized eruption. (IE, it could cool off the earth by 5 to 10 degrees farenheit.) Yellowstone can’t do a super volcano type eruption until after years of lava producing eruptions. (In order to empty the lava chamber.)
MarkTheGreat on January 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I remember surviving my first Ice Age back in the seventies. Then I endured global warming in an age where fire could melt steel. And now another Ice Age descends upon us. I must get a new shovel.
BL@KBIRD on January 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM
GW = Pure 100% Poop
Mark Garnett on January 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Thats why everyone should buy one of these. Reduce your carbon footprint today …!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY
Badbrucskie on January 12, 2009 at 10:50 AM
There will be peace in the Middle East before we will see negative effects of either warming or cooling.
TexAz on January 12, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Not me. I intend to keep collie around. I’m thinking that I’ll be able to use his superior sense of smell and hearing to track down the remaining humans. After all, once the snow gets deep enough, THEY will be the most convenient and plentiful source of food on the ice floe.
My collie says:
Like the polar bear says:”I just love these igloo thingys. They’re crunchy on the outside, and chewy on the inside.”
The worst part is that I hate it when that moron Ted Turner is right (about anything).
CyberCipher on January 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM
No one has mentioned it yet, but “pravda” means truth in Russian. It’s an old totalitarian joke, though one gaining favor lately in the US as well.
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM
You’ll need a more varied diet than that for long-term survival, but it’ll sustain you during the long trek southwards.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM
They have pravada and we have the communist news network (CNN) the more things change the more they stay the same…
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I was wondering why a shoe-maker had a magazine.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM
bada bing!
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM
…waiting to see it Ed scolds you for your flagrant violation of HotAir decorum/etiquette.
My collie says:
Collie, I don’t think Jesus was talking about dog breath in that passage.
CyberCipher on January 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM
btw, like SETI, I constantly search for intelligent life in the universe. tks.
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM
So if the Ice Age crowd is right, global warming may turn out to be a good thing. Right?
nazo311 on January 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Save the planet. Breath out.
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:13 AM
breathe
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Could you please elaborate on that mechanism.
Yoop on January 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM
So if the Ice Age crowd is right, global warming may turn out to be a good thing. Right?
nazo311 on January 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Yes,
that is point. the earth is either warming or cooling. those our are choices. Because the Sun changes, the earth’s rotation changes, volcanos come etc etc. We have two choices a warm earth or a big ball of ice. I would choose the warm earth everytime. sadly most ofthe AGW crowd seems to want a big ball of ice.
unseen on January 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM
I’m not sure about that. They used global warming against Bush and conservatives, and as a way to tax and transfer wealth. I doubt they have much allegiance to warming, per se, just the potential to exploit fear–ergo, climate change.
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:24 AM
MadisonConservative and some faux-Republicans here on HA already give me gas and indigestion… Can’t imagine having to eat them…
But at least we can get rid of the NorthEastern Liberals and head to Texas, the only place where Conservatives thrive now… The NE is a wasteland already of rotting cities run by corrupt Liberals and uban centers full of nanny state enviro wack jobs, so I say… BRING IT ON!
Mark Garnett on January 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Make that “for now.” 45% of Texas voted for Hope & Spare Change. All major Texas cities and vast swaths of suburbs went blue. Keep the illegal immigration up and you’re done.
JiangxiDad on January 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I love lamp
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Oh, the real Pravda. I thought you meant the NYT. I’m sure they will adopt the New Ice Age message as soon as Obama figures out a way to make it work for his program.
PattyJ on January 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Choices
A Global Warming
B Ice Age
C Regression to the mean
I’ll take c.
tmitsss on January 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Excellent post Charles.
As far as the “massive migration” theory, wouldn’t an ice age pushing down from the north also make for more water in the southern hemiphere, therefore causing more fertile/plantable ground? Should we be teaching our grandkids Spanish? What if states like Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas became as cold as the Canadian border states? Should we be warning Hugo that his most hated neighbor may be getting much closer in a few decades?
Final question: When and where do I get my Polar Bear tag.
Rovin on January 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Global warming, ice age, great depression…why don’t the “experts” just shut up? What is it that they hope to gain by scaring the hell out of people?
orlandocajun on January 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Government grants.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on January 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM
So, the sun really does affect the earth’s weather? Imagine that.
Johan Klaus on January 12, 2009 at 12:07 PM
We are going to put up border guards at the Red River. Oh, I forgot we have got them on our the southern border already and it does no good.
Johan Klaus on January 12, 2009 at 12:09 PM
I remember that in grade school in New England (during the 70′s) the summer weather would start in mid-May and last well into September (for the first two weeks of school, most kids were still in shorts). Now, we’re lucky if we get several days above the high 70′s before Memorial Day and after August 15th.
I really think there’s something to this. It’s a pity that our own climatologists are too blinded by Global Warming to see what’s really going on.
crazy_legs on January 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM
“Pravda” means the truth. Whatever they say must, therefore, be true. Our media is now the new Pravda. They’ve come a long way.
Entelechy on January 12, 2009 at 12:36 PM
My surname, in middle english, means “satisfier of women”….explains a great deal.
LimeyGeek on January 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM
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