What a shame! Israel bombed the UN facilities that were providing relief, now the UN is pulling out.

angelat0763 on January 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM

You are an idiot.. a true hypocrite.. I bet you went to University within the last 20 years…. your mom should sue as they made you dumber!

Subsunk on January 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I had to go to funeral… just in case you check this thread… in a way you are right, fatah is better than Hamas and Abbas is better than Arafat. Lupus is better than cancer and being a quadruple amputee is better than death…
The main problem is two fold. First, Fatah and the Palestinians do not believe in the mere existence of Israel. Abbas’ public rhetoric has toned down, but the underlying hatred remains. The vast majority of the Arab world wants Israel GONE and those that don’t have real bounties on their heads. Iran and Syria have tons of control over the Palestinians, and I doubt it would change a whole lot unless the head of the snakes were amputated. Secondly, the Palestinian children have been brought up to hate,to fight and to believe martyrdom is the highest honor. This mindset is hard to eradicate. And considering the Muslims(and leftists) in America that are exposed to our freedom,etc. as well as around the world, are protesting in the streets calling for “bigger ovens” , calling for Jews to be killed…but couldn’t get together to denounce 9-11, Bali, London, India,etc proves to me that there are way too many RADICALS worldwide.
These are people who do not protest Hamas using Arab children as human shields, but call Israel “baby killers” when she defends herself from rockets (6,000) firing into her cities where children are…it is hypocritical at it’s best, pure hatred at worst…

* The rockets fired from Lebanon were shot from next to a UNIFIL base.

* recall that UNIFIL Patrol Takes Nights Off, UN Admits Hizbullah Arming (Nov. 2006)

Shouldn’t a Jew hating Muslim lover like yourself be out in the streets shouting about ovens?

But… but… But Big Joey Biden said we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon!

And Reagan pulled out of Lebanon saying that the politics of the Middle East were too complicated for us to be involved with. Who was right?

Am I missing something?

I disagree… what regime would help the situation? Fattah?
Israeli “occupation” arguably would make the situation worse, but I want the ultimate goal… Israel being able to better protect herself. Whatever makes that happen is fine by me.

Israel’s biggest problem is how they have allowed the history of the creation of Israel and the history of the “Palestinians” to get completely twisted to the point that no one knows the true story. The lie has been told and perpetuated so long, it is treated as absolute truth. Israel’s major Public Relation failures will never be corrected…

beththebaker on January 8, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Beth,

I think the relative quiet of the last two years in the West Bank has set the stage for the West Bank to be given statehood thru their example of compliance with the Israelis and willingness to let the Intifada go away. Small steps, to be sure. But I believe Fatah is beginning to see the light, and will tone down the rhetoric, and eliminate the radicals sooner rather than later, allowing Israel to make peace with the West Bank and condone statehood for the West Bank.

If Gaza gets run by Fatah, the “moderation illness” might inject itself there as well and both areas could be given statehood by Israel.

I’m not following the West Bank as closely as you, I’m sure. So I could be ill informed. But it seems like the West Bank has been pretty quiet lately, and things seem to be getting better there. Abbas doesn’t spout off the hatred nearly as often as Arafat, and so I perceive that things are slowly moving in the correct direction.

Am I wrong?

Subsunk

An Al Jazeera reporter with close ties to Hizbullah said there was no chance the rockets were fired by the Shi’ite terror group, because the rockets were of an outdated model that Hizbullah had not used for years. Channel 10 also quoted him as saying that had Hizbullah wisheded [sic] to open a second front on Israel’s North it would have fired dozens of rockets and not only three.

Who cares what this head of the Hydra calls itself – it’s the same body. Focusing on naming the head that is currently biting is a sucker’s game.

What is important – pointing out that terrorists don’t care who they kill… who is immaterial, it’s the killing that matters most to them. Hindu, Christian, other less pure Muslims, black, white, Asian, Jews (for the bonus)- in their psychosis all must die, die, die. Death is their true G*D. In this episode they honor their G*D by bombing the elderly.

Muslim Terrorists bomb retirement home. That’s it.

Don’t you know that it is fashionable worldwide to be anti-Jew? The leftists think the destruction of Israel would solve the “conflict” and in a way, it would.

beththebaker on January 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM

The muslims would not stop with Israel.

I am a Jew who did not vote Obama… and any Jew who did for the reason you stated has not learned the lesson of the Holocaust! It is a shonda that the American Jews have a death wish.
BTW, Israeli Jews (absentee ballots)overwhelmingly supported McCain

beththebaker on January 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Blessings to you, Beth.

The difference here is the difference between people who know the reality of the threat, and people who are naive and deluded by our liberal media. Hats off to American Jews who can see through the fog of bs and swim against the tide.

Not sure why Hezbollah is staying out of this.

JiangxiDad on January 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM

It could be, that hezbolla is just scared to death.

I disagree… what regime would help the situation? Fattah?
Israeli “occupation” arguably would make the situation worse, but I want the ultimate goal… Israel being able to better protect herself. Whatever makes that happen is fine by me.

Not sure there’s any solution in the short term. Generational change is probably needed, and a recognition by the Muslims that whatever historical claim they have to land, so too do the Jews, and even the Christians, whose Byzantine empire ruled for over a thousand years. Imo, Islam gets in the way of those types of acceptances, and is the source of the problem.

I hope we see regime change in Gaza, and not Israeli re-occupation.

JiangxiDad on January 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM

I disagree… what regime would help the situation? Fattah?
Israeli “occupation” arguably would make the situation worse, but I want the ultimate goal… Israel being able to better protect herself. Whatever makes that happen is fine by me.

Israel’s biggest problem is how they have allowed the history of the creation of Israel and the history of the “Palestinians” to get completely twisted to the point that no one knows the true story. The lie has been told and perpetuated so long, it is treated as absolute truth. Israel’s major Public Relation failures will never be corrected…

JiangxiDad on January 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Those Persians are Jimmy Carters fault. He could have nuked them in 79…but noooooo.

coldwarrior on January 8, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Hopefully, the Arab world is essentially on-board with this. They fear the Persians, and I figure that behind-the-scenes they must be rooting for Israel, if not actively aiding them. I hope we see regime change in Gaza, and not Israeli re-occupation.

Channel 10 also quoted him as saying that had Hizbullah wisheded [sic] to open a second front on Israel’s North it would have fired dozens of rockets and not only three.

They are just getting warmed up?
Practice for new Hizbullah recruits martyrs?
Waiting for Obama to become President?
Waiting for oil to go a little lower to then start this oil price raising adventure?