The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season. Why are the global warming skeptics so eager to repeat the same obvious error that the global warming faithful make? One could come to the conclusion that most people don’t have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

thuja on January 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Au contaire, thuja, the ‘mistake’ is clearly only on the side of the man-caused global warmists who have yet to provide a single scientific proof of their assertions. The rest of us are simply saying that other factors e.g. sun other than human actions result in climate change what ever the change is.

Some people revived the Frost Fair in 2003, but they haven’t been able to hold it on the Thames. Looks like that may change. Perhaps during the first new Frost Fair on the Thames, they could freeze Al Gore in effigy.

During that time, you could walk from Dover to Calais on an ice bridge. Cool, huh? Sure they’ll be crop failures, hypothermia and mass starvation in a new ice age, but there’ll be some cool stuff too.

Maxx on January 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Great link. Thanks!

The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season.

thuja on January 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM

We have been in a cooling trend for nearly eleven YEARS thuja, while the global warming scare-mongers continue to promote this hoax just to collect more taxes. Will you ever wake up? By the way, this is the FOURTH climate scare this century.

CO2 does nothing to drive climate, its just the perfect target of a tax, you literally cannot live without making CO2, its what you exhale.

Extreme Alaska cold grounds planes, disables cars

Extreme temperatures — in Johnson’s case about 60 below zero — call for extreme measures in a statewide cold snap so frigid that temperatures have grounded planes, disabled cars, frozen water pipes and even canceled several championship cross country ski races.

Alaskans are accustomed to subzero temperatures but the prolonged conditions have folks wondering what’s going on with winter less than a month old.

Tell me again… why is it that Al Gore is not in jail?

Being an 11-year veteran of Arctic conditions, I decided to take a look at what -11 C would be in Fahrenheit. I was somewhat disappointed with my British brethren. It turns out to be just 12.2 F, as in +12.2 degrees.

Big deal — it gets that cold in NJ too. The Brits are just not used to it; they share that trait with the folks in Florida and such, who panic and tend to drive into things when there’s so much as a patch of ice on the road.

It’s time for a deep cut…

Matt cheers the first blog-to-film project, “Taking Chance”. Before it airs on HBO February 21, do read the post over at BLACKFIVE In fact, go read it now, then come back for the rest……

I wonder if record cold and snow in a place unused to it, like England, will cause any significant disbelief in AGW.

keep the change on January 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM

The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season. Why are the global warming skeptics so eager to repeat the same obvious error that the global warming faithful make? One could come to the conclusion that most people don’t have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

One good way to argue against carbon dioxide induced climate change is to argue that we have already maxed out the amount of heat in the climate attributable to carbon dioxide. I don’t know what the evidence for it is, but I haven’t really seen this argument made here. It would make sense to argue we’ve maxed out carbon dioxide related warming rather than making silly statements about how today’s weather proves something about climate
or is an augury for buying lottery tickets today.

Dec. 26, 2008 – An Iditarod without snow, Florida’s coastal towns lost forever to the Gulf of Mexico, wheat farmers in Kansas without crops.

What sounds like the climatic end of days could be coming a lot sooner than previously anticipated.

Competing headline:

January 06, 2009 - Minnesota sled dog race canceled because of too much snow

I know you don’t want to hear what I consider a cold temperature to be…..

HawaiiLwyr on January 8, 2009 at 1:06 AM

One more word and we’ll get everyone in Alaska to point their fans South West.

Pay more in taxes to the government, so government scientists can pretend to control the weather. Does anybody ever ask, how does paying more in taxes solve the global warming problem, or is it just to get the liberals to shut up.

Not to worry though. if the current solar trends continue, it will soon be so cold, the snow piled so high, the sea ice so thick, that even the polar bears will move south.

Yes, but there’s all that free universal health care to cure their hypothermia.

Laura in Maryland on January 8, 2009 at 12:49 AM

What are you a sadist? You’re mocking the deaths of old-age British pensioners, many of whom fought the Nazis and liberated the concentration camps in Poland and Germany, to make a cheap political point about the NHS.

aengus on January 8, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Laura was probably trying to highlight the hubris which leads to incorrect priorities. European governments promote all this global warming stuff, as a political tool to re-direct money from one group to another, and now reap the consequences. True, these consequences are dire for the people. That is a tragedy, although one the majority of the voters chose for themselves. I assume we will soon be facing the same situations here. My own liberal family members vote to make things worse here. I hope they get what they vote for.

It is 4C (39F) in North Yorkshire right now. For someone growing up in northern New York, it doesn’t seem as if it should be very cold. However, it is. Between the constant dampness, and the ever-present wind, it just sucks. We regularly have wind gusts here that would qualify for hurricane force. The wind on an average day where I live is about 15MPH.

I agree, growing up and living in Harrogate, N. Yorks you really get the best and worst of the British climate. I remember in the early 1990′s having to and rescue the snow plough driver after he got stuck in a snow drift. People here in Maryland look at me sideways when I talk about the regular 50+ MPH wind gusts!

My mother does appreciate the nice cold weather payouts she gets though. It pays for her to get her heating oil in and put a few quid in her pocket. It’s nice that she is getting something back for a change after paying into the system all her life, rather than the spongers who give nowt and take all.

Right now, on a relatively warm day for January, it’s 11F, which would be -11.67C, and I’m sitting here in shorts and a golf shirt.

There are lots of people outside my window running around in shorts and golf shirts. Of course, that’s probably because it’s sunny and mid 70′s here.

Fight global warming/cooling/whatever: Move to Arizona (where houses are really cheap now).

In other words, water can’t simultaneously be above freezing and below freezing.

Fred 2 on January 8, 2009 at 2:42 AM

In Al Gore’s world everything is Global Warming. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?