UK starts paying subsidies for record colds

posted at 8:35 pm on January 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

“Arctic conditions” have gripped Great Britain and parts of Europe, and it has gotten bad enough that the British government has had to pay heating-bill subsidies for Londoners for the first time ever.  The temperature hasn’t gotten cold enough in southern England in the ten years of the subsidy program for the government to pay out the £25 checks.  In fact, as Fausta points out, the seas have begun to freeze in the north:

Cold weather payouts for pensioners and the vulnerable reached record levels today after Britain’s deep freeze plunged temperatures as low as minus 11C. Forecasters warned that tonight will be even colder.

The Government’s bill will rise over £100 million as Londoners become eligible for the payment for the first time since the scheme was introduced a decade ago.

This morning, the thermometer reached minus 10C in Farnborough, Hampshire and minus 11C in parts of Scotland, which is colder than areas of Greenland and the Antarctic. The Met Office said it expected temperatures to go another degree colder tonight.

The bitter cold has left pavements coated in ice and driving conditions treacherous across the country. Thousands of motorists were left stranded in the busiest day of breakdowns in five years yesterday. The AA and RAC said they had responded to more than 40,000 call-outs over the past 36 hours.

Being an 11-year veteran of Arctic conditions, I decided to take a look at what -11 C would be in Fahrenheit.  I was somewhat disappointed with my British brethren.  It turns out to be just 12.2 F, as in +12.2 degrees.  The other day, I had to clear my driveway with the temperature at -14F, which would be -25C. Right now, on a relatively warm day for January, it’s 11F, which would be -11.67C, and I’m sitting here in shorts and a golf shirt.

The subsidies kick into place when sub-freezing temperatures last for seven or more days.  In the decade of global warming, London had never experienced that until this week.  That will cost the British £15 million, which comes on top of a £93 million bill for subsidies in the north, where they’re more often applied.  Global warming, as it turns out, gets pretty expensive.

With Arctic ice expanding at a rapid rate and record cold temperatures gripping Europe, and here for that matter, either someone must have sucked a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere, or the greenhouse model has some serious flaws.  The British lost a £15 million bet in London this week on it.

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Obviously this is an effect of Goebbels Warmening.
BTW, anyone seen Al Gore lately?

rbj on January 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Simple really, if the current solar trends continue, it will soon be so cold that Al Gore will be the only person left on the planet who doesn’t think Al Gore is a kook.

The quite sun is going to cause us a big problem when the growing season shortens to the point that crops cannot mature. 2009 may be the first year that happens.

tarpon on January 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Sounds like Bailout fever is gripping the UK as well!

canopfor on January 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM

“Arctic conditions” have gripped Great Britain and parts of Europe, and it has gotten bad enough that the British government has had to pay heating-bill subsidies for Londoners for the first time ever.

Well Al Gore has reportedly made about a 100 million from his carbon credit scams, so why don’t they just try to recover those costs by suing him for breach of promise?

MB4 on January 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM

The other day, I had to clear my driveway with the temperature at -14F, which would be -25C. Right now, on a relatively warm day for January, it’s 11F, which would be -11.67C, and I’m sitting here in shorts and a golf shirt.

UGH! Come to Houston, my friend.

Weight of Glory on January 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM

BTW, anyone seen Al Gore lately?

rbj on January 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM

If there was any justice he would be stuck out in the cold someplace with his core body temperature down to about 32 degrees.

MB4 on January 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM

I wonder if record cold and snow in a place unused to it, like England, will cause any significant disbelief in AGW. Once you program a population, deprogramming them is impossible. They don’t need to see the truth outside, they were told the contrary by educated people. The outside world is simply not telling the truth.

keep the change on January 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Piff I say,

Out: Global Warming

In:Ice Age!

canopfor on January 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Europe needs to start paying attention.

I just read this at Watts Up With That? (My emphasis).

Accuweather’s Bastardi: Global Cooling Reason for Putin Shutting off Gas Pipeline

Accuweather.com’s chief long-range and hurricane forecaster Joe Bastardi observed that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s recent cut of gas flows to Europe via Ukraine may have been done so in anticipation of a global cooling cycle on the Jan. 6 “Glenn Beck Show” radio program. Bastardi has a solid reputation among Wall Street traders for understanding weather’s impact on energy commodities.

“The thing I want to bring up here – very interesting – most of the solar cycle studies that we know about and that guys like me read have come out of the Russian scientists,” Bastardi said. “But when Glasnost developed, the Russian scientists, a lot of their ideas on the coming cool period that a lot of us believe is going to occur – ice, rather than fire is the big problem down the road here 2030, 2040, and the reversing cyclical cycles of the ocean – it came out of the East.”

According to Bastardi – Putin is relying on the data from the Russian scientists and wants to bring some European nations to their knees by exploiting their reliance on natural gas when the weather is at its coldest.

“Now my theory – something that I put out and it’s something that’s not something that people want to hear is that Putin knows what is going to happen – or he believes the same way I do about the overall climate pattern. So, if you control the pipeline into Europe, you literally can control Europe without firing a shot – if you control the energy.”

Bastardi goes on to connect this with the invasion of Georgia. He also says this play by Russia is exactly why Reagan was so against the building of the pipeline.

INC on January 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM

I hate to see people suffer but since I loathe the eco-Marxists so much this seems like poetic justice. I hope it just keeps getting colder and colder. Winter is only a couple weeks old.

DerKrieger on January 7, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Al Gore must be traveling, he is like Jack Friggin Frost. Everywhere he goes it gets cold and snows.

Mr. Joe on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

You gotta wonder what the tipping point will be for these global cooling deniers.

JellyToast on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Also from Watts Up With That?

A Belgium cartoon mocking Al Gore

INC on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

…down to about 32 degrees.

MB4 on Jan 7,2009 at 8:44PM.

MB4: Celcius or Fahrenheit?:)

canopfor on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

I like the cold, not cold enough for me here in the UK, so I want to move to Alaska.

My wife hates the cold, but likes me talking about plans for the future, so she hasn’t said no to moving to Alaska.

Also, Al Gore is an idiot, and all the people who’ve invested their livelihoods into the idea of man being powerful enough to fundamentally alter the climate by accident, are going to be asking for bailouts soon.

MattMacD on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Any word on how the Polar Bears are doing now that the sea ice is expanding?

dentalque on January 7, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Putin is relying on the data from the Russian scientists

INC on January 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Who are you going to trust to forecast the weather, me of that loon Gore?

PootyPoot on January 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM

It’s the warming that makes it colder!

TinMan13 on January 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Any word on how the Polar Bears are doing now that the sea ice is expanding?

dentalque on January 7, 2009 at 8:51 PM

I have heard that the have canceled all there refrigerator and air conditioning orders from Al Gore’s Appliances, Inc.

MB4 on January 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM

PootyPoot on January 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Well, Putin is no fool. He’s playing to win.

And he probably has the same opinion of Al Gore that we do.

INC on January 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM

The subsidies kick into place when sub-freezing temperatures last for seven or more days.

Next week looks “fun” for those of us in the upper Midwest.

That being pointed out, I do have SOME compassion for the Brits on this point. Having lived there for a while, the building standards, weather norms, and the very age of so much of the housing stock makes it hard to hold them to the same standards as you have there in Frankenstan. Much of the water pipes in London is on the OUTSIDE of the buildings so I can only imagine the R value of walls erected in the Victorian era.

highhopes on January 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM

In the decade of global warming,

It’s called “Climate Change” now. Gives the global warming morons more wiggle room.

highhopes on January 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Yes Global Warming is ridiculous. But I must direct you to the plight of the poor Londoners over the next ten days… Such awful cold weather, even for someone who has experienced winter in the midwest…

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/UKXX0085?from=36hr_fcst10DayLink_business

Sarcasm off..

Illinidiva on January 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM

MB4: Celsius or Fahrenheit?:)

canopfor on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

I was thinking more long the lines of Kelvin.

MB4 on January 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM

It’s called “Climate Change” now. Gives the global warming morons more infinite wiggle room.

highhopes on January 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Disturb the Universe on January 7, 2009 at 9:04 PM

With Arctic ice expanding at a rapid rate and record cold temperatures gripping Europe, and here for that matter, either someone must have sucked a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere, or the greenhouse model has some serious flaws. The British lost a £15 million bet in London this week on it.

Well Ed, it has been a while since the last Goracle eruption.

BobMbx on January 7, 2009 at 9:05 PM

I was thinking more long the lines of Kelvin.

MB4 on Jan 7,2009 at 9:00PM.

MB4: As Mr.Burns would say,’Excellent’! Haha.

canopfor on January 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Folks, folks…hold on.

“Global Warming” (and it’s newer sibling, “Accelerated Climate Change”) was never about either the weather or climate.

It’s nothing more than a bull$hit snakeoil scheme for the UN and the Left to sponge off of capitalism, a la Capone and other mob bosses.

“Protection” payments, graft, and other corruption. Period.

No amount of free to air complaining is going to change things. The only way to get us out of this crap is to lobby our elected officials HARD when it comes to any legislation or rules that are obstensibly “climate change” based.

Although I do agree with MB4, if God has the kind of humor I suspect he does, one day Al will find himself frozen to death as a result of the policies he pushed so hard to achieve – all so he could feather his own pockets, and the pockets of his fellow green crooks.

Wanderlust on January 7, 2009 at 9:08 PM

That’s cold???

Gothguy on January 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM

It’s Bush’s fault. Thank God in heaven that Gore didn’t win. Now we have the next natural disaster – Obama and Pelosi. God save us. 2010 is our only hope.

suzyk on January 7, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Why isn’t this up somewhere in the blog?

Vote for HotAir

http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-blog/

An Era of Hate on January 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM

BTW, anyone seen Al Gore lately?
rbj on January 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Human popsicle in Antarctica after foolishly taking a beach vacation there.

Lesson: don’t believe your own hype.

Bishop on January 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Semi-OT, but here goes: Global warming, cooling, or not, it’s bone-chilling cold here in Afghanistan, where I am in a low place at 5000 ft. above sea level. Military cold weather gear works great, but is often in short supply. I’m lucky; over the course of 6 years in the Army, I’ve accumulated a decent amount of Extreme Cold Weather gear. But if you’re in the habit of sending care packages, find out if they can be sent country specific, and put a pair of long johns in a package headed to Afghanistan. They’ll be appreciated.

Spc Steve on January 7, 2009 at 9:21 PM

dentalque on January 7, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Yep – heard today that they were now concerned about the polar bears starving because the Arctic ice was too thick for the seals to pop up through thus depriving the bears of food.

DerKrieger on January 7, 2009 at 9:21 PM

You know…………

……….. if someone was smart in the American Coal/Oil/Gas/Shale/Energy industry, they would say to the world with an Australian accent…..

“………. BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE!!! ORDER RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL DOUBLE YOUR ORDER FOR ONLY THE COST OF SHIPPING AND HANDLING!!!”

It would put the Leftist Environmentalist Democrat Nut roots on the ropes and might just help out with this economy thingy, too…….

Seven Percent Solution on January 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Right now in Minnesota its exactly 3 gorebull warmening degrees.

Whew….think I’ll pop outside for a dip in the pool.

Bishop on January 7, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I wonder if record cold and snow in a place unused to it, like England, will cause any significant disbelief in AGW. Once you program a population, deprogramming them is impossible. They don’t need to see the truth outside, they were told the contrary by educated people. The outside world is simply not telling the truth.

keep the change on January 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM

I can just hear the Gorebal “Warming” acolytes now – “Are you going to believe me or your frozen eyeballs?”

steveegg on January 7, 2009 at 9:39 PM

With Europe and Britain at the mercy of Russia and the Middle East for their oil and gas I would recommend that they start pressuring us to exploit our vast oil shale reserves. We can remove the the threat of blackmail Russia and OPEC hold over the West. The Muslim nations trade immigrants for oil and Russia uses it as a diplomatic weapon. If we were really concerned about Europe and our allies we’d cripple Russia, Venezuela, Iran, and OPEC by flooding the market with oil. Oil revenue would also lift the threat of economic manipulation and threats against us from China. We need to defeat the eco-Marxists.

DerKrieger on January 7, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Anyone, in any part of the world, who refers to temperatures higher than single digits as “bitter cold” needs to be smacked upside the head.

12F is cold. -12F maybe qualifies as “bitter cold”.

And to anyone that thinks there’s not much difference between 12F and -12F… there is.

Hollowpoint on January 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM

God Damn!!! it’s fucking cold in here, did Tipper spread her legs?

must be some reason I cant sell a car without heated seats latelely here in Chicago.

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Joe Bastardi observed that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s recent cut of gas flows to Europe via Ukraine may have been done so in anticipation of a global cooling cycle on the Jan. 6 “Glenn Beck Show” radio program.

That’s one heck of program Glenn Beck has. A global cooling cycle on Jan 6–who knows–maybe a monsoon season on Jan 7?

Tonya: Wow Glenn, did the earth move for you too?

Glenn: No, but it probably will on my show tomorrow. Stu tells me were hosting an earthquake swarm.

smellthecoffee on January 7, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Wait till our Congress pushes subsidies to help the poor during the winter at the same time they push legislation to fight warming, you cannot make this up.

rob verdi on January 7, 2009 at 9:48 PM

You gotta wonder what the tipping point will be for these global cooling deniers.

JellyToast on January 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

You didn’t get the memo. Global cooling is proof that CO2 is causing Global Warming Climate Change, or so say the Goracles of the world.

The following are also evidence of Global Warming:

Warmer than average temperatures.
Cooler than average temperatures.
Completely average temperatures.
Greater than average rainfall.
Less than average rainfall.
Completely average rainfall.
Your sister gets knocked up.
Your sister doesn’t get knocked up.
You don’t have a sister.

Hollowpoint on January 7, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Well, I suppose I have a little sympathy for those in England. They are probably living in hundred year old homes made out of stone with zero insulation.

redshirt on January 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Don’t ask James Hanson about this. I’m positive he would say it is due to global warming.. because

Unseasonably warm? GLOBAL WARMING
Unseasonably cold? GLOBAL WARMING
Exactly the same? GLOBAL WARMING

jukin on January 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

The Mexican Consulate has brought a Complaint before the UN World Court (the “Permanent Court of International Justice”), alleging violation of the civil rights of its citizen rapists by the US in discriminating against Mr. Juarez merely because he is a Mexican citizen.

Felipe Calderon called on “human rights activists everywhere to condemn this violation of Mr. Juarez’s civil rights. Child rape is one of the basic civil rights guaranteed by the UN Civil rights commission” he said, and “the United States, our future colony, refuses to recognize that child rape is an important part of our superior Mexican culture”.

John Plantation McCain said “Mr. Juarez is missing work at the factory farm of one of my big campaign contributors, so I have asked President Bush to pardon him so he can get back to work where he belongs. he will be whipped for missing work while he was fooling around with that girl.” I have also asked the federal prosecutor who jailed the Border Agents to prosecute the 10 year old girl as an attractive nuisance, because she served as a distraction for Mr Juarez from his real purpose here – working for my bribers contributors

The Duke University Group of 88 has demanded that Mike Nifong prosecute the 10 year old girl for raping Mr. Juarez. Said Ms. Smith-Jones-Mbeke-Jimenez, Chairperson of the Duke University of Antiwestern Civilization Propaganda,”even if she didn’t rape him, she should be prosecuted because the Mexican savage culture is admirable and superior to anything in the evil US. And she added, “because we say so, since we Duke Professors are smarter than anyone we know.”

Senator Juan McCain said “Mr. Juarez is doing the kind of raping that Americans won’t do. We have many 10 year old girls in the US, but not enough skilled US rapists. My proposed legislation will grant Mr. Juarez full citizenship upon payment of a fine of $50.00, payable to the Republican National Congressional Committee [Or my new Country (Mexico) First PAC], which desperately needs the money. If Mr.Jjuarez doesn’t have enough money to pay the fine, he should go rob someone”.

Ted Kennedy said “If she had taken the ride in my car that I offered her, she would not have been home to be raped by this futire Democrat voter. We offer him sanctuary in Massatwochits. Hic”

Al Gore blamed the rape on global warming. “This girl was obviously too hot” said Gore. Standing in front of a map of southeast Asia, Gore said “the girl’s family didn’t buy carbon rights I bought from a Chinese farmer who promised not to burn a million tons of coal this year, so there was a cyclone, which caused this rape.”
– JAM

MB4 on January 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

funny story, was in Canada over the Christmas break, on Sunday Dec 20 it was -31C out or roughly -20F when we woke. That was a little bit nippy. Car started right up though. So later that morning I brought up the subject of Global Warming with my relative (they only get CNN and CBC) while sitting next to a roaring fireplace to stay warm… and says that “its real you know” with a straight face.

maineconservative on January 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

BTW, anyone seen Al Gore lately?

You mean Al Gorebels?

drjohn on January 7, 2009 at 10:39 PM

I’m sitting here in shorts and a golf shirt.

Maybe I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m guessing that you are inside rather than outside. Yes?

nukemhill on January 7, 2009 at 10:46 PM

The other day, I had to clear my driveway with the temperature at -14F, which would be -25C.

Ed,

Do you live in a house with no central heating? Are you over 65? Pensioners are freezing to death in the UK because they have no heating to get through the winter.

aengus on January 7, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Well…it’s a good thing we didn’t sign the Kyoto Agreement like all the Euro-weenines wanted us to. Just think how cold you limeys would be without our super awesome carbon footprint.

You’re welcome!

DamnCat on January 7, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Well, I suppose I have a little sympathy for those in England. They are probably living in hundred year old homes made out of stone with zero insulation.

redshirt on January 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Don’t feel too sorry for them. Some of those stone homes are heated with really amazinge AGA stoves. We stayed in such a home in the Yorkshire Dales a few years ago. Not only did this fire-engine red AGA heat the 300 year-old home, it heated the water, and you could also cook and bake with it. Outrageously expensive, but really a beautiful and impressive appliance.

marybel on January 7, 2009 at 11:51 PM

It’s the warming that makes it colder!

TinMan13 on January 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Yeah, they have my dear liberal Mother spewing this line. It’s cold because of global warming. Holy Shiite.

Jaibones on January 8, 2009 at 12:08 AM

I like the cold, not cold enough for me here in the UK, so I want to move to Alaska.

MattMacD

Come on up! It’s -30F (-34.444C) in my little corner of the Kenai Peninsula.

Doogie on January 8, 2009 at 12:26 AM

It’s called “Climate Change” now. Gives the global warming morons more wiggle room.

highhopes on January 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM

The odd thing though is whether its getting cooler or warmer the solution to the “problem” is apparently the same.

18-1 on January 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM

funny story, was in Canada over the Christmas break, on Sunday Dec 20 it was -31C out or roughly -20F when we woke. That was a little bit nippy. Car started right up though. So later that morning I brought up the subject of Global Warming with my relative (they only get CNN and CBC) while sitting next to a roaring fireplace to stay warm… and says that “its real you know” with a straight face.

maineconservative on January 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Hmm, have you had the hockey stick talk yet? You would think when it was established that the most important data point for AGW was shown to not just be incorrect, but intentionally fraudulent, that it might have some impact on people’s view of the issue.

18-1 on January 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Do you live in a house with no central heating? Are you over 65? Pensioners are freezing to death in the UK because they have no heating to get through the winter.

aengus on January 7, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Yes, but there’s all that free universal health care to cure their hypothermia.

Laura in Maryland on January 8, 2009 at 12:49 AM

Well, I suppose I have a little sympathy for those in England. They are probably living in hundred year old homes made out of stone with zero insulation.

redshirt on January 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM

On the plus side, England did survive the Little Ice Age with by our standards primitive technology.

On the minus side it killed a significant portion of the population.

18-1 on January 8, 2009 at 12:50 AM

Yes, but there’s all that free universal health care to cure their hypothermia.

Laura in Maryland on January 8, 2009 at 12:49 AM

Cryogenic freezing might even help people survive until they are allowed to see a doctor…

18-1 on January 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM

BTW, as can be confirmed with a look through Tim Blair’s archives, the Met has, for the past three years, predicted warmer temperatures in Britain.

andycanuck on January 8, 2009 at 12:54 AM

I know you don’t want to hear what I consider a cold temperature to be…..

HawaiiLwyr on January 8, 2009 at 1:06 AM

The odd thing though is whether its getting cooler or warmer the solution to the “problem” is apparently the same.

18-1 on January 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM

The classic definition of snake oil.

Want to grow hair on your chest? This is the tonic for you!

Oh, you want to get rid of the hair on your chest? Well, it will do that too.

MB4 on January 8, 2009 at 1:37 AM

Britain has experienced colder weather than the Arctic Circle lately. Also, the damp there makes it a completely different kind of cold to the continental cold Ed & co have here in teh US Midwest.

lexhamfox on January 8, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Yes, but there’s all that free universal health care to cure their hypothermia.

Laura in Maryland on January 8, 2009 at 12:49 AM

What are you a sadist? You’re mocking the deaths of old-age British pensioners, many of whom fought the Nazis and liberated the concentration camps in Poland and Germany, to make a cheap political point about the NHS.

aengus on January 8, 2009 at 2:10 AM

I am presently enjoying a balmy 26 below F here outside Wasilla. The high over the last 14 days was about 7 degrees. Today the high was 22 below.
I say balmy cause it’s been 65 below and colder in the interior lately.
After you experience 75 and 80 below for a few weeks, 35 below is absolutely tropical. I’ve been here since 56 so I’ve seen some low temperatures in that time.
I heat the place with a wood stove primarily, with a Laser 73 for backup…like now. It burns a whopping 1/10 of a gallon an hour on low, and with the woodstove “on low”, It stays about 75 in here at these temps.
And if I’m not mistaken, sunspots activity up on the 1st day of the new year, and have been appearing steadily since then…like every day. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/sunspots/ I was kinda concerned about it as things are gettin’ cold enough already. what with all the Global Warming induced cooling.

Army Brat on January 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM

The AGW crowd is handling the record cold in 2 ways. First, they point out that weather is not the same as climate. That is, that while the short-term weather may be cold the long-tem climate could still be getting hotter. A valid theory, except they don’t seem to make such nice distinctions when a 90 degree (F) day comes by in September. Then it’s all Global Warming’s fault plain and simple. So if a heat spell is a sure sign of Global Warming, why exactly is a cold spell not a sure sign of a coming Ice Age?
.
Their second avenue of attack is to say that Global Warming causes Global Cooling. That is, all that warming melted so much ice in the Artic that when the extra melt water comes south it turned our already cold water into snow. That sounds almost logical until you realize that if it was warm enough to melt the ice in the first place, shouldn’t it be warm enough to keep the water in the form of rain when it finally gets here? In other words, water can’t simultaneously be above freezing and below freezing.

Fred 2 on January 8, 2009 at 2:42 AM

In other words, water can’t simultaneously be above freezing and below freezing.

Fred 2 on January 8, 2009 at 2:42 AM

In Al Gore’s world everything is Global Warming. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?

Cheshire Cat on January 8, 2009 at 3:49 AM

Right now, on a relatively warm day for January, it’s 11F, which would be -11.67C, and I’m sitting here in shorts and a golf shirt.

There are lots of people outside my window running around in shorts and golf shirts. Of course, that’s probably because it’s sunny and mid 70′s here.

Fight global warming/cooling/whatever: Move to Arizona (where houses are really cheap now).

AZCoyote on January 8, 2009 at 6:55 AM

It is 4C (39F) in North Yorkshire right now. For someone growing up in northern New York, it doesn’t seem as if it should be very cold. However, it is. Between the constant dampness, and the ever-present wind, it just sucks. We regularly have wind gusts here that would qualify for hurricane force. The wind on an average day where I live is about 15MPH.

covel on January 8, 2009 at 7:07 AM

It is 4C (39F) in North Yorkshire right now. For someone growing up in northern New York, it doesn’t seem as if it should be very cold. However, it is. Between the constant dampness, and the ever-present wind, it just sucks. We regularly have wind gusts here that would qualify for hurricane force. The wind on an average day where I live is about 15MPH.

I agree, growing up and living in Harrogate, N. Yorks you really get the best and worst of the British climate. I remember in the early 1990′s having to and rescue the snow plough driver after he got stuck in a snow drift. People here in Maryland look at me sideways when I talk about the regular 50+ MPH wind gusts!

My mother does appreciate the nice cold weather payouts she gets though. It pays for her to get her heating oil in and put a few quid in her pocket. It’s nice that she is getting something back for a change after paying into the system all her life, rather than the spongers who give nowt and take all.

Britcop on January 8, 2009 at 7:38 AM

Prince Charles is in the forefront of all this global warming hysteria. If I recollect correctly, about a year and a half ago he said we had about a year and a half before catastrophe hit. He should pay out of his private fortune for heat subsidies. It’s alright for him to be dumb and blind, but not to influence the futures of others. To the few remaining friends we have in Britain, you must get rid of him and your Archbishop of Canterbury if you can. They have a bully pulpit and are dangerous to your health and welfare.

JiangxiDad on January 8, 2009 at 7:47 AM

Yes, but there’s all that free universal health care to cure their hypothermia.

Laura in Maryland on January 8, 2009 at 12:49 AM

What are you a sadist? You’re mocking the deaths of old-age British pensioners, many of whom fought the Nazis and liberated the concentration camps in Poland and Germany, to make a cheap political point about the NHS.

aengus on January 8, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Laura was probably trying to highlight the hubris which leads to incorrect priorities. European governments promote all this global warming stuff, as a political tool to re-direct money from one group to another, and now reap the consequences. True, these consequences are dire for the people. That is a tragedy, although one the majority of the voters chose for themselves. I assume we will soon be facing the same situations here. My own liberal family members vote to make things worse here. I hope they get what they vote for.

JiangxiDad on January 8, 2009 at 7:55 AM

What has happened to this thread what with the over-the top swearing, really bad sex jokes,and people accusing others of making fun of old folks dying when it’s obvious they did not?

lizzee on January 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM

It’s all Global Warmings fault.

Pay more in taxes to the government, so government scientists can pretend to control the weather. Does anybody ever ask, how does paying more in taxes solve the global warming problem, or is it just to get the liberals to shut up.

Not to worry though. if the current solar trends continue, it will soon be so cold, the snow piled so high, the sea ice so thick, that even the polar bears will move south.

tarpon on January 8, 2009 at 8:07 AM

I know you don’t want to hear what I consider a cold temperature to be…..

HawaiiLwyr on January 8, 2009 at 1:06 AM

One more word and we’ll get everyone in Alaska to point their fans South West.

MarkTheGreat on January 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Meanwhile, in the bad timing for hysterical predictions category I nominate:

Dec. 26, 2008 – An Iditarod without snow, Florida’s coastal towns lost forever to the Gulf of Mexico, wheat farmers in Kansas without crops.

What sounds like the climatic end of days could be coming a lot sooner than previously anticipated.

Competing headline:

January 06, 2009 - Minnesota sled dog race canceled because of too much snow

Buy Danish on January 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM

Global warming causes the sun to increase its energy output.

petefrt on January 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM

I wonder if record cold and snow in a place unused to it, like England, will cause any significant disbelief in AGW.

keep the change on January 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM

The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season. Why are the global warming skeptics so eager to repeat the same obvious error that the global warming faithful make? One could come to the conclusion that most people don’t have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

One good way to argue against carbon dioxide induced climate change is to argue that we have already maxed out the amount of heat in the climate attributable to carbon dioxide. I don’t know what the evidence for it is, but I haven’t really seen this argument made here. It would make sense to argue we’ve maxed out carbon dioxide related warming rather than making silly statements about how today’s weather proves something about climate
or is an augury for buying lottery tickets today.

thuja on January 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM

May, 2009
Wheat farmers from Kansas to Saskatchewan lose wheat crops to late frost, Algore is first man to have Oscar and Nobel prize rescinded.

TheSitRep on January 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Being an 11-year veteran of Arctic conditions, I decided to take a look at what -11 C would be in Fahrenheit. I was somewhat disappointed with my British brethren. It turns out to be just 12.2 F, as in +12.2 degrees.

Big deal — it gets that cold in NJ too. The Brits are just not used to it; they share that trait with the folks in Florida and such, who panic and tend to drive into things when there’s so much as a patch of ice on the road.

Paul_in_NJ on January 8, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Extreme Alaska cold grounds planes, disables cars

Extreme temperatures — in Johnson’s case about 60 below zero — call for extreme measures in a statewide cold snap so frigid that temperatures have grounded planes, disabled cars, frozen water pipes and even canceled several championship cross country ski races.

Alaskans are accustomed to subzero temperatures but the prolonged conditions have folks wondering what’s going on with winter less than a month old.

Tell me again… why is it that Al Gore is not in jail?

Maxx on January 8, 2009 at 11:02 AM

The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season.

thuja on January 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM

We have been in a cooling trend for nearly eleven YEARS thuja, while the global warming scare-mongers continue to promote this hoax just to collect more taxes. Will you ever wake up? By the way, this is the FOURTH climate scare this century.

CO2 does nothing to drive climate, its just the perfect target of a tax, you literally cannot live without making CO2, its what you exhale.

Maxx on January 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Maxx on January 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Great link. Thanks!

Buy Danish on January 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Ed, there’s a little less snow in your backyard than in previous pictures. Possible global warming?

unclesmrgol on January 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM

In the Middle Ages during the Little Ice Age, the Thames used to freeze over every winter. They held a Frost Fair each year right on the Thames.

Some people revived the Frost Fair in 2003, but they haven’t been able to hold it on the Thames. Looks like that may change. Perhaps during the first new Frost Fair on the Thames, they could freeze Al Gore in effigy.

During that time, you could walk from Dover to Calais on an ice bridge. Cool, huh? Sure they’ll be crop failures, hypothermia and mass starvation in a new ice age, but there’ll be some cool stuff too.

Consanescerion on January 8, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The truth or falseness of any statement about trends in the climate is not refuted or proved by the weather one day or even the weather for a whole season. Why are the global warming skeptics so eager to repeat the same obvious error that the global warming faithful make? One could come to the conclusion that most people don’t have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

thuja on January 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Au contaire, thuja, the ‘mistake’ is clearly only on the side of the man-caused global warmists who have yet to provide a single scientific proof of their assertions. The rest of us are simply saying that other factors e.g. sun other than human actions result in climate change what ever the change is.

docdave on January 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM

The earth has been steadily cooling for 10 years. Is that a trend? By the way…There’s plenty of proof out there now that shows CO2 increases FOLLOW warming periods. They do not precede them. Gore is full of crap.

Army Brat on January 9, 2009 at 4:13 AM