Obama to outlaw pork?
posted at 1:38 pm on January 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama’s one significant legislative accomplishment came in partnership with Senator Tom Coburn in mandating the creation of a federal spending database that showed how the federal budget got spent. Porkbusters cheered this bill, as it allowed for easy searches to research the connection between federal spending and elected representatives, especially on pork. Now that Obama has won the presidency, he has decided to end earmarks altogether — but can he do it? Obama promised this change at yesterday’s presser (via Instapundit):
One of the measures of irresponsibility that we’ve seen is the enormous federal debt that has accumulated, a number that has doubled in recent years. As we just discussed, my budget team filled me in on – Peter Orszag now forecasts that, at the current course and speed, a trillion-dollar deficit will be here before we even start the next budget, that we’ve already looked – we’re already looking at a trillion-dollar budget deficit or close to a trillion-dollar budget deficit, and that potentially we’ve got trillion-dollar deficits for years to come, even with the economic recovery that we are working on at this point.
So the reason I raise this is that we’re going to have to stop talking about budget reform. We’re going to have to totally embrace it. It’s an absolute necessity.
And it has to begin with the economic recovery and reinvestment plan that Congress will soon be considering, that we’re going to be investing an extraordinary amount of money to jump-start our economy, save or create 3 million new jobs, mostly in the private sector, and lay a solid foundation for future growth.
But we’re not going to be able to expect the American people to support this critical effort unless we take extraordinary steps to ensure that the investments are made wisely and managed well. And that’s why my recovery and reinvestment plan will have – will set a new higher standard of accountability, transparency, and oversight.
We are going to ban all earmarks, the process by which individual members insert pet projects without review. We will create an economic recovery oversight board made up of key administration officials and independent advisers to identify problems early and make sure we’re doing all that we can to solve it. We will put information about where money is being spent online so that the American people know exactly where their precious tax dollars are going and whether we are hitting our marks.
Did Obama check with Harry Reid? Ten months ago, Reid told reporters that the founding fathers created the legislature for the specific purpose of porking up the national budget. And no one will insult the memory of Washington and Jefferson by stripping Reid of his pork-barrel power, lest the Porkbuster be called un-American!
Unfortunately for Obama, though, the mechanism for banning earmarks doesn’t lie with the executive branch. Obama will have few options, even if he’s serious and not just spouting a bon mot for a little centrist credibility. Spending bills originate in Congress, and they have no restriction on how they construct the budget. Obama can veto bills with pork items, as John McCain promised to do, or he could extend the executive order that instructs his agencies not to spend earmarks as directed by Congress that Bush signed last year. Both would set up crises at the federal level between the two branches that I seriously doubt Obama wants to see erupt while we’re at war, especially with complete Democratic governance under test for the first time since 1994.
Otherwise, Obama has no more power to “ban” earmarks than he does to set debating rules in the House or to ban the filibuster in the Senate. As a supposed Constitutional scholar, he should know this. While I appreciate the sentiment, I’m not buying it for a second. Obama won’t go to war with Reid and Nancy Pelosi over earmarks no matter what he says now for the media’s consumption.
And in fact, Obama began backpedaling a few minutes later:
Question: … Earmarks, you said there will be none that get in there without review. Some people would argue even the so-called bridge to nowhere got review, some level of review …
Obama: No, no, no. What I’m saying is – let me repeat what I said about that … We will ban all earmarks in the recovery package. And I describe earmarks as the process by which individual members insert pet projects without review. So what I’m saying is, we’re not having earmarks in the recovery package, period. I was describing what earmarks are.
Question: So there’s – you’re not suggesting there’s some level of review that might …
Obama: I’m saying there are no earmarks in the recovery package. That, that is the position that I’m taking.
So Obama is only limiting his earmark ban to the recovery package, not overall — and even then, not entirely. Only those projects inserted without review count as earmarks. What constitutes “review”? A floor vote, or a discussion in committee among the porkers around the table? And even then, the only way Obama can get earmarks out would be to veto anything Congress presents to him with earmarks within it — and I doubt Obama would kill the centerpiece of his domestic economic agenda merely to make a point about a process he himself used repeatedly as a Senator. In fact, Obama never even mentioned a veto during the press conference.
I also find it highly revealing of the media attending this presser that not one reporter challenged Obama on his authority to deliver on that promise. It’s practically Con Law 101, or even high-school civics, and yet no one thought to wonder how Obama would “ban earmarks” as President. Pathetic.
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While he’s at it, why doesn’t he ban war, lying, alcoholism, and hate altogether.
Then what a wonderful world it will be.
redshirt on January 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Caving to CAIR… sigh.
BadgerHawk on January 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Fuzzie Earmarks….
CynicalOptimist on January 7, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Why waste a question on that..
the_nile on January 7, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Oh no. What will the pig farmers do? Where will be get our bacon? oh…you mean that kind of pork. That reminds me of John Murtha pork king of the universe. He won’t take this standing up.
kanda on January 7, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I knew it. He hates pork.
faraway on January 7, 2009 at 1:43 PM
“Terrorist” Tom? Yes, BHO did mention being friends with him in that debate.
jgapinoy on January 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM
huh?
you think earmark reform is just an empty utopian fantacy?
eh on January 7, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Phew, for a minute I though he was talking about bacon and all the other tasty meats.
hanzblinx on January 7, 2009 at 1:45 PM
No more Pork? So he is a Muslim. I knew it.
portlandon on January 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM
WTF?
eh on January 7, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Then: $20M spent on building a new park in COngressman Smith’s district = Pork
Now: $20M spent on building a new park in the backyard of Congressman Smith’s = Green Investment Project in order to combat global warming
Presto, no more pork. See how easy that was?
angryed on January 7, 2009 at 1:47 PM
congrats. you delivered the fifth instance of that joke in the first eleven comments of the thread.
eh on January 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Messiahs don’t need constitutional authority to make some happen.
RedSoxNation on January 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Well, it’s tough to think straight when your leg is all tingly.
kirkill on January 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Pet projects by Obama allies == necessary infrastructure upgrades.
Pet projects by Obama enemies == pork.
Good times.
spmat on January 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Nor was there one question which touched on how. While the Democrats demand the automakers show a plan to solvency, no reporter asked the Bamster about — where does it all end?
We can’t run trillion dollar deficits forever — the printing presses won’t last that long. And besides, when others figure it out, we are toast.
tarpon on January 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Just think of the impact to the economy of this ban. If Obama bans pork. We’ll all be secretly meeting people at the rest areas paying $300 for a pound of bacon hoping the pork patrol doesn’t catch us.
kanda on January 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM
words, just words
notagool on January 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM
I wonder. It might actually be easier to get pork out of bills with the veto when you have a solid majority on your side–you don’t need to grease the wheals as much.
That said, I’m more worried about the non-pork items coming down the line. Pork is only an issue when you are trying limit corruption and hold down spending, and Democrats have never even tried either of those.
Count to 10 on January 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Who can pay attention, knowing that those manly pecs are trapped under that shirt, yearning to once again glint in the sunlight.
MayBee on January 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM
In the thrilla in Philly, the Messiah equated Ayers with Coburn because Coburn is anti-abortion when Georgie S. asked him a question about Ayers.
Illinidiva on January 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM
He’s going to ban rainy Mondays, too.
Mr. Bingley on January 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM
That, too.
Count to 10 on January 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Wait, wait — isn’t there a vague resemblance to Sammy Davis, Jr.? Maybe he’s Jewish!
cthulhu on January 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM
ahhhh. i remember.
eh on January 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Here’s my interpretation of Obama’s comments: he understands media marketing better than most politicians, so I think he is painfully aware of how things like “subsidies for wooden arrows” in the 700 bill. package played with the media, and will try to prevent that from happening. However, I agree with Ed: there is no way ANY president, no matter how great his/her intentions, can fully get around to banning pork other than veto-ing all legislations with earmarks (which is not practical).
peter_griffin on January 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I disagree. I thought it was pretty clear (in the transcript, anyway) that he was talking about how earmarks would be handled during the “economic recovery and reinvestment plan.” I didn’t watch the press conference, so perhaps with his awkward way of speaking (umm, uhh…) the message was not clear.
Now, how he defines what constitutes the economic recovery plan is an open question. I expect that Obama, a guy who sure seemed in love of earmarks a few months ago, will continue his pattern of redefining things as it suits his political purposes.
That’s the thing that annoys me more.
Y-not on January 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Assuming Obama is serious he wont get it done. There will be some bill on declaring puppies and kittens cute. It will be loaded with pork. And Obama will sign it because he doesn’t want to see 2012 ads that say OBAMA BELIVES PUPPIE ARE UGLY. CAN YOU TRUST HIM FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS?
angryed on January 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM
The problem is that investment in infrastructure isn’t necessarily a bad idea but it has to be done as part of an overall plan. Obama and Congress are gearing up to spend BILLIONS and the bastards don’t have any sort of plan how to best “invest” those billions. I predict when all is said and done every single Congressional district will have monuments to the filthy corrupt bastards currently serving in Congress without a single meaningful impact on the nation’s economy.
P.S. Rush is asking a good question today. Why is Obama talking about how bad the economy is going to be instead of telling us what is going to be cut out of the public sector to pay for all that pork.
highhopes on January 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM
For a second there I thought I would have to stock up on Spam. Yummy, yummy goodness!
DuctTapeMyBrain on January 7, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Since this idea is coming from the man who managed to snag almost $1 billion in earmarks during his very short term as a senator, it wouldn’t be a stretch of credibility to call it fantasy.
Vic on January 7, 2009 at 1:55 PM
The Dems no longer need earmarks. They will be New Dealing one trillion in wasteful spending year in year out for the foreseeable future as Obama himself stated yesterday.
Plus no earmarks would prevent any Repubs from bringing the pork home to their districts. On a personal level Obama no longer needs earmarks and kickbacks–he’s Pres.
Having said that, it doesn’t matter–it’s all rhetoric. Earmarks are legalized graft and they are going nowhere.
patrick neid on January 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Obama to outlaw pork? Let’s just add that to the list ….
Obama to close Gitmo?
Obama to use public funding?
Obama to bring troops home?
Obama to meet with no preconditions?
Obama to abandon politics of old?
Obama to release education records?
Color me skeptical.
fogw on January 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Fuzzie Pork Ears
CynicalOptimist on January 7, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Good points!
Y-not on January 7, 2009 at 1:59 PM
I think you’re missing the point. Banning earmarks would be a good thing. If you need an attack point on Obama, touch on the stupidity/audacity of him to make such statements when he doesn’t have the power to back those statements, or how hypocritical it is of him to make such a statement.
leetpriest on January 7, 2009 at 1:59 PM
You should invest in infrastructure as the boom is on its way up, and pay for it then, as well.
Paying for them in a recession only makes it worse, especially if it is on borrowed money.
If he really wants to get the economy going again, he should try to repeal the minimum wage (and that goes for the States, as well).
Count to 10 on January 7, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Ed:
You forget. Pork and earmarks will be a thing of the past because everyone and every comaony will be getting paid directly by the government.
davod on January 7, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Are you kidding? This man has the power to make the seas recede! All he has to do is appear in the Senate chamber levitating in a pillar of light, and not even Harry Reid will have the will to defy him!
Realistically, I suspect what he’s doing is setting himself up to label any Republican legislative earmarks (or any other kind of initiative, really) as “pork” so that he can take a self-righteous stand against them, hand-in-hand with Reid and Pelosi. Meanwhile pork for, say, ACORN or The New York Times will glide across his desk without any difficulty.
The primary objective of the Dems for the next two-to-four years will be to destroy any remaining vestiges of Republican power and to re-tool the federal political process for permanent, unchallengeable socialist rule. Right now Obama’s just laying the groundwork for future demonization of the right, which is fundamental to the process.
Blacklake on January 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM
That’s my fun day.
Shy Guy on January 7, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Now, if the Republican leadership was to order a ban on earmarking for all Republicans, that might mean something.
Count to 10 on January 7, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I believe eh’s original meaning was that the act or idea of reforming the legislative system to prevent or restrict pork is not a Utopian fantasy.
Obama making it happen? Complete and total fantasy.
leetpriest on January 7, 2009 at 2:03 PM
“Just think of the impact to the economy of this ban. If Obama bans pork. We’ll all be secretly meeting people at the rest areas paying $300 for a pound of bacon hoping the pork patrol doesn’t catch us”
At that price the farmers wil be able to compete for corn with the ethanol producers.
davod on January 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM
There’s a scary thought.
Wish I had a good counter argument.
Count to 10 on January 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM
right, but we believe in earmark reform. we want earmark reform. so if he’s going to make empty promises about earmark reform, our attitude should be, “awesome, chief. we’ll be by the oval office tonight. we can roll up the ol’ shirsleeves, brew a pot and get to work.”
his disingenuousness will reveal itself at the point where his claims clash with his convictions. and we of course point out then that he’s a divisive liar who makes claims he has no intention of following through on.
eh on January 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM
That, that kind of stuttering indicates to me that this guy doesn’t even believe his own words. What a schmoe.
UltimateBob on January 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM
You do. It weighs a few grams and travels at a couple thousand feet per second.
LimeyGeek on January 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Yeah, it’s kind of like pork has been given amnesty and has lost its meaning.
Just for the record, here in Joe Biden’s home state of Delaware, the big “stimulus” infrastructure projects being proposed are 1) a new parking garage 2) replacing some water mains and 3) a science center down by the beach. And one wayward politician said we should instead the money on more police.
Yep — here’s the Obama rescue.
BigD on January 7, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Obama can always just redefine what Pork is, like he’s doing with “Tax Cuts”
jp on January 7, 2009 at 2:09 PM
thats what will start happening again if the Dems overstep(not suicide, the other). sad enough to say, but bound to happen.
jp on January 7, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Ed,
I thought you were paying attention – Bush has corrupted the government so much and accumulated so much power for the executive branch that now Obama has the power to dictate to the legislature that there will be no earmarks. What? Bush didn’t do that? Ok, then I guess the media will accuse Obama of having dictatorial tendencies.
gwelf on January 7, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Barack Obama: John McCain gone 20 degrees leftward.
John McCain: The Real Deal Maverick
Sarah Palin: SARAHCUDA, what can I say?
HotAirJosef on January 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Would a bailout for the Media not be a violation of the First Amendment and we’d officially not have a “free press” any longer?
it sure as heck should be a GOP talking point to be repeated over and over and over, along with the NYT’s liberal lying
jp on January 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM
the executive has nowhere near the power it was intended, or had pre-Nixon for that matter. The Dems stripped the Executive of its power after Nixon and they won large control of congress
jp on January 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Well he’s not really “banning” earmarks. Nuance.
GarandFan on January 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Off topic, if you haven’t heard Paul Shanklin singing “The Banking Queen” (Barney Frank) on Rush’s show, you are missing one of the funniest things ever.
BigD on January 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Pork Salad?
Firebird on January 7, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Say Putin invades Eastern Europe and continues its conquest of land and Oil, along with iran’s empire expansion, China doing something and all out world wide chaos ensues.
Can Obama still do all the Infrastructure Spending he’s promising?
Rationing is coming, in some form.
jp on January 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Hard to pay attention when one is so much in love.
MarkTheGreat on January 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM
THE ENTIRE “RECOVERY” PACKAGE IS PORK AND WELFARE.
There will be no earmarks left to add.
Every dems special project will be deemed necessary for recovery. The republicans have effectively been excluded by Madame Pelosi’s new “NO FREE SPEECH FOR REPUBLICANS” rule.
We are left with a union buying, pork laden, dem vote buying, welfare packed “RECOVERY?” bill.
I will think of this as the ‘END OF AMERICA AND LIFE AS WE KNOW IT” bill.
MMover on January 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM
He is, after all, a Democrat.
MarkTheGreat on January 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Obama to outlaw PORK? When Sus scrofa domesticas fly.
USMCDevilDog on January 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM
I guess it’s a start, but remember: earmarks make up less than 1% of the budget. If he’s serious about deficit/debt reduction, he’ll go after entitlements.
Kafir on January 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Your Welcome. I’ll be at the Spirit Mountain Casino January 15-17. I’ll be doing my Obama Muslim jokes during me second set. Do you need any tickets?
portlandon on January 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Bing. It’s the biggest pile of
b.s.unadulterated pig manure evah.What matters is wasteful, corrupt government spending – it doesn’t matter what you call it. Barry’s plan to rob Social Security mete out a payroll “tax cut” to the under $250 Gs a year crowd is Part A. His plan to expand government to the of 600,000 new taxpayer funded jobs is Part B. His payback to the Unions through bloated infrastructure projects is Part C.
Now, since infrastructure is his big thing (we need to be like the Red Chinese!) it’s instructive to see what kind of earmarks go to the District of Columbia as part of the Department of Transportation/Federal Highway Administration. Who knew that Head and Spinal Cord injury research, arts programs for persons with disabilities, or the Thurgood Marshall legal education opportunity program belong in the purview of the Department of Transportation/Highways. The odds of this stuff not making it through under Obama/Reid/Pelosi is next to nil.
Buy Danish on January 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM
“Redefining” is exactly right. Bambi has no power to end earmarks, no desire to end earmarks, and no intention of ending earmarks. He’s just redefining the term.
“We will ban all earmarks in the recovery package. And I describe earmarks as the process by which individual members insert pet projects without review. So what I’m saying is, we’re not having earmarks in the recovery package, period. I was describing what earmarks are.”
Translation: so as long as there is some type of cursory “review” of legislators’ wasteful pet spending projects, they’re technically no longer “earmarks.”
Now you see earmarks; now you don’t. They don’t call him the Magic Negro for nothing.
AZCoyote on January 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM
The One has another obvious similarity to Lincoln. Lincoln seemed to age at least 20 years from ‘59-’65. In that front page pic, The One doesn’t look like he about to Heal the Planet. He looks like he’s about to lose his lunch.
eeyore on January 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM
He will just smite the pork with his mighty sword!
Mr_Magoo on January 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM
We have reviewed carefully the new contracts with ACORN and find that they are not pork.
petefrt on January 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM
How is he going to stop pork when Washington is such a Pig Sty?
USMCDevilDog on January 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Line item veto anyone? That would be one way for the Executive branch to have some control over pork spending.
Let me put that over here next to the flat income tax as another significant CHANGE that we can someday HOPE will be enacted.
Mallard T. Drake on January 7, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Lotsaluck…..!
DL13 on January 7, 2009 at 2:41 PM
So, Obama will veto every spending bill?
Bevan on January 7, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Calling the media at this presser “pathetic” is giving them far too much credit.
RickZ on January 7, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Pork You!
Firebird on January 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Will that Pork Ban come with lipstick? I hope so, because I like being kissed when I’m being… you know.
USMCDevilDog on January 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM
So, the Precedent-Elect has now decided that earmarks are a terrible thing that needs his attention when he becomes Precedent? Yet another BHO contradiction (as if there were any shortage of examples of the idiot messiah contradicting himself) as during the campaign he had quite a different attitude:
“Senator McCain has been talking tough about earmarks, and that’s good, but earmarks account for about $18-billion of our budget,” Obama said.
So … $18 billion out of “trillion dollar deficits for years to come” is supposed to be something important.
I am so sick of this lying retard. Maybe … someday … someone in the press will ask the idiot messiah some real questions. Someday, someone will also ask him about the obviously illegal campaign contributions, possibly hundreds of millions, that fueled his victory over America and should land him in jail …
progressoverpeace on January 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Bingo. The Magic Negro’s nuthin’ but a slick talkin’ lawyer from corrupt Chicago in corrupt Illinois. This really is akin to Stalin being called “Boss” by his
henchmenunderlingssycophants. It truly is a brave new world. Gaia help us.RickZ on January 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Much as I hate to tout Obama’s potential positive opportunities as President, here’s one person who could actually have the public and MSM behind any efforts he might put forward to get a “line item veto” option for the President enacted. The Congress would be facing a massive voter revolt if he were to be denied it, and Congress these days is driven by Polls.
I hope he has the guts to really go for it. It would take the sting out of the next four years.
KendraWilder on January 7, 2009 at 2:56 PM
OHHHH NOOOO not a pork ban. I can no longer get #35 (Pork Fried Rice) at my favorite Chinese Take Out.
USMCDevilDog on January 7, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Is he setting up one of those classic “I was against it before I was for it” scenarios?
right2bright on January 7, 2009 at 2:59 PM
“good luck”
sven10077 on January 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM
You beat me to the same point that I was going to make.
This proposed recovery package is riddled with finely marbled pork opportunities for an enterprising congressman.
onlineanalyst on January 7, 2009 at 3:07 PM
President-Elect Obama’s middle isn’t Hussein. It is President-Elect Barak Houdini Obama. For he forever changed the world of Political magic (Chicago Politics) and Political escapes (Chicago Politics) as the world & the MSM looked on in awe at his escapades. /sarc
USMCDevilDog on January 7, 2009 at 3:12 PM
The Presidential line-item veto is totally unconstitutional, and I don’t think you want the idiot messiah to have that much power. I certainly don’t.
progressoverpeace on January 7, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Baloney! (All beef, I’m sure.)
hillbillyjim on January 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Pork…the other white meat.
silenced majority on January 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Over at NRO’s “The Corner” John Hood provides a roundup from assorted think tanks of information for ways to make the stimulus package-infrastructure package more accountable and economically productive.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzkyZTRmYzhmMDA3YWZjZDdmNGE2YWUwMzgxNDA3NDA=
It would be wise to send this information along to your own congresscritter.
onlineanalyst on January 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Hahaha! You’re pretty funny Ed. You should go on Johnny Carson or something.
Vashta.Nerada on January 7, 2009 at 4:36 PM
So…. anybody know where that database mentioned in the article is?
xwraith on January 7, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Well … $23,157,332,874 were authorized for it. It is supposed to be operational on June 26, 2315, but they’re running a little bit behind schedule and have said that more funding is needed. There are a slew of new environmental impact reports that are needed before the computers can be bought. You know, flies that might be killed flying into the computer fans, ants that might be singed on the circuitry, …
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
progressoverpeace on January 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM
I am not buying it. Obama had no problem coming up with earmarks himself when he was in the Senate, why should I believe this? Besides, Presidents do not control earmarks. I remember when Bush vetoed the farm bill because there were so many earmarks in it and the Congress over rode the veto.
Terrye on January 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Simply put if “pork” is outlawed that would spell the doom of the Democratic party.
grapeknutz on January 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM
As a matter of fact Obama has said we can expect trillion dollar deficits for years, so maybe he just plans to spend the money out in the open.
Terrye on January 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM
There probably won’t be a single earmark in the stimulus package. With a trillion dollar package that is nothing but earmarks, why would they need more?
Oleta on January 7, 2009 at 9:36 PM
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