Video: I’m not closing the door on 2012, says Palin
posted at 8:51 pm on January 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
Ten minutes with the Canadian answer to Carson Daly for your edification on a slow news night. Nothing too provocative, although there’s an enjoyably tense moment around 10:30 when she’s asked if she ever thought her critics were right about her being unqualified.
In any case, I need an excuse to update the poll post from this morning and this’ll do. An eagle-eyed reader checked Newsmeat, which I should have done, and found out that the polling firm involved has a history of donating to — ta da — Frank and Lisa Murkowski. So if you’re wondering how reliable the data is, weigh that accordingly.
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He became president and ran the country by appealing to the lowest common denominator. If that is what you consider great than good on you, I disagree.
If he were president now, we would likely be a nuclear cinder.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Fixed.
MrScribbler on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM
The point is not that she hasn’t been ambassador or Secretary of State. It’s that she doesn’t know about foreign affairs and makes herself an embarrassment when she she talks about them. And again, not all governors were good presidents. Nor does the fact that some good presidents had no foreign policy experience mean that lack of foreign policy experience is any kind of asset. Nor does it mean that they ignored such issues before taking office. Also, the fact that Obama is unqualified for office doesn’t make the “less less-qualified” worth picking.
And she couldn’t say.
One that was not only too obvious to need saying, but which didn’t follow from what she had just said. I think she realized she’d said something goofy and then tried to recover by saying something insignificant, probably from her not-very-useful talking-points.
The woman is good at what she does. Let her continue.
Tzetzes on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I know history, not typing.
MrScribbler on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM
I answer you with facts and historical precedence and you counter with the same old “she’s unelectable” meme.
You’re a fake.
You’re the sort of fake that Robert Stacy McCain was referring to when he wrote this:
Go away, troll. I don’t believe you’re real.
ramrocks on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Most didnt thing half baked genocide was the best solution to solve racial issues either.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM
dude.. that’s just… scary..
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM
wow … dense huh?
You said that “Republicans were drooling all over her”
I posted all of the things the media/democrats did to her, that had nothing to do with politics but were attempts to smear her and had nothing to do with Republicans
never did I once say that any of the media attention made her qualified to become president.
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Or he could have just challenged them to a duel and killed them. Wasn’t he fond of shooting reporters?
I really wish that Todd Palin had been allowed to fight duels with the a$$hat reporters who smeared his wife and kids.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Well, I don’t think the Palin-supporters and I are going to come to an agreement tonight. Plus, it’s late and I still (woe is me!) have a ton of Cicero to read. So I give you all the last word.
But I’d also like to say “thank you” for the good and respectful discussion. There’s been a distinct lack of respect at this website lately, I’m sorry to say, and it’s refreshing to have civil conversation with people that disagree with you.
Tzetzes on January 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Master Axelrod controls his minions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSqo17o2a1w
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:14 PM
You haven’t made one comment in this thread that’s a verifiable fact. Just go away.
kcewa on January 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Maybe I spoke too soon.
ramrocks on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Tzetzes on January 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM
1. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz is the best response you could come up with, after making a pee pee joke.
2. So you say. Who asked?
3. Yet you threw a hissy fit that anyone would dare point out that Romney is a weirdo. “Leave Romney out of this!”
4. What overall ignorance? I merely quoted the man.
Calling you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. I’ll remind you instead that arrogance diminishes wisdom, and you’re short on resources to begin with.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM
sorry if this is posted twice…
No, I was saying that their is no such thing as foreign policy experience for first timers at POTUS. it’s ALL on the job training.
For people saying they didn’t like Sarah because of her ‘lack of foreign policy’ experience sound like the pampered Beverly Hills princes not liking her brand new convertible because it’s the wrong shade of red.
Nothing wrong with the convertible, in fact it’s a great car, they are being a little b!tch about it.
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM
You call me dense but you make some awful tenuous connections.
You TC’s are drooling all over her and cant stop talking about how she saved us from a horrible defeat, blah blah blah and you trot out a bunch of fact unrelated to that topic and call me dense?
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:17 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
But I repeat myself.
fogw on January 6, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Hmm, that came out funny…
Maybe I spoke too soon. Oh well, have a good night.
Tzetzes on January 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM
I agree Obama is not qualified to be President either but neither is Palin.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Sarah was the one bright spot in a VERY dismal electorate..
and yes, she did save McCain a loss of Mondale proportions
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:19 PM
I disagree, heartily.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM
let me guess who is … Mitt Romney?
am I right
do I get cash prize
I will settle for an autographed copy of his resume
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Ran bigger state for longer..
done
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Please please … stop making the foreign affairs argument in regards to a governor not being qualified to become President
oh geez
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Gov Palin is amazing!…love how she get’s the liberals foaming like rabid dogs…lolol…She has my vote!..: o )
christene on January 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM
That was one of the better blog posts of 2008, the unveiling of the concern troll and their shtick. I’m shocked they’re still up to their hijinks in January.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM
huh?
“ran bigger state for longer”
Romney is more qualified to be President because he served one term as the governor of mass.?
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM
You may be onto something. The GOP establishment needs to wrested of its power and much of it needs to go back to the Republicans.
Sapwolf on January 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM
if she was drag.. it was because she was trying to drag John “I’m suspending my campaign long enough to vote for this bloated stimulus package that I normally campaign against” McCain..
John “My friends, vote for me, that’s enough of a reason” McCain?
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Even boring old Saxby Chambliss says that Palin saved his ass in the Georgia runoff. She got, what, around 20,000 total people at her appearances on his behalf? And Teh Mitt got a few hundred?
Oh, and it’s funny how people who have a huge problem with names like Piper or Tripp have no issue with the names Mitt or Newt.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM
it won’t stop … they will never stop …
Line from the Terminator
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM
FIFY
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM
When Mitt was governor of Mass, he was basically Arnold Schwarzenegger on a smaller scale.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I didnt say that, I dont like Romney at all, in fact, since we were talking about resumes, I thought I would point out that his is thicker.
I dont think that there is proof either way. I know that my dad, who I have never seen vote for a Dem in his life voted for Obama because of her, and he is not the only one.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I am a Libertarian and Palin is no Libertarian.
Palin’s Project List Totals $453 Million (The Wall Street Journal)
Spending rose in Palin’s Alaska administrations (USA Today)
Alaska Gov. Palin signs bill to hike oil tax (Reuters, December 19, 2007)
MODERATOR: “…do you support capping carbon emissions?”
PALIN: “I do. I do.”
Yes she is Pentecostal.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM
your dad voted for a left wing socialist because of the republican nominee for VICE PRESIDENT?
and he never voted for a dem in your life you say?
seems like an axelrod minion to me
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Ive mostly given up though, I am relatively sure this woman could kill a live puppy on TV and you guys would worship her for it.
She is a conservative Obama, pretty, relatively inexperienced, coo coo bannanas associates from the past, massive worshipful cult following.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Well… if you are going there, I know countless people who were going to vote Bob Barr or sit out the Presidential Election because of McCain.. UNTIL he nominated her. (see the bold and emphasis?)
myself included.
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:31 PM
If she runs in 2012 she is a certifiable idiot. She has absolutely no chance of being elected. The MSM has destroyed her temporarily. The fact she might not recognize this is alarming.
She needs to be a very successful governor re-elected in 2010 and serve out her term and then run in 2016.
2012? Even if Obama is as bad as Carter, the odds are he will win the election. Palin has no chance even against him. Now before you jump ugly on me, remember I was among a small group here that said McCain’s only chance was with her on the ticket. That however does not change my feelings that she loses again in 2012 and wins, if possible, in 2016. There is a time and place for everything.
Here’s another prediction. If she keeps showing up in interviews talking about running etc she won’t even win the 2010 election for Gov of Alaska. Independents, the folks who decide all elections, will/are getting bored with her.
On a historical note you don’t want to know the fate of 95% of losing VP candidates. There is a reason.
patrick neid on January 6, 2009 at 11:31 PM
You do.
“The ugly and the stupid have the best of it in this world. They can sit at their ease and gape at the play. If they know nothing of victory, they are at least spared the knowledge of defeat.”
- Oscar Wilde
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:32 PM
true true
Bob Barr was polling at 6% until Palin arrived
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM
I have never seen him vote for a Dem.
However, I was raised by him to be a Republican. He liked McCain and was considering him, but he was not happy with the knee jerk judgment he showed putting Palin on the ticket.
Also, I have been a registered member here and on CQ long before Obama was a blip on the radar screen.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM
If you believe anything the MSM throws at you, then she was on those helicopters shooting wolves all her lonesome..
in fact, she commandeered an Apache from the Alaskan Air Force and started to let loose the 30 MM cannon on the poor helpless wolves..
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:34 PM
while I respect everything else you said … it is important to remember that Governor Palin is no typical Vice Presidential Nominee
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:34 PM
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM
The ‘hijinks’ that you label it will last as long as Sarah Palin is a viable candidate that could beat Obama in 2012. Don’t ever underestimate the trolls and the nutroots. They are mischief-makers extraordinaire with unlimited George Soros and Marxist type funding. They are as dangerous as the Goebbels propaganda machine or Hitler when he orchestrated his campaign to marginalize the Jews.
technopeasant on January 6, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Romney’s Resume makes Palin’s look like a joke. Romney not only ran a larger state longer, he has relevant degrees (not from where but in) and has REAL extensive successful Private Sector Experience. He also knows how to teach his children to use a condom.
Mitt Romney:
Age: 60
Religion:
- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Education:
- B.A. Brigham Young University, 1971
- J.D. Harvard University, 1975
- M.B.A. Harvard University, 1975
Professional Experience:
- Consultant, Boston Consulting Group, 1975-1977
- Vice President, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1978-1984
- CEO, Bain Capital, Incorporated, 1984-1998
- CEO, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1991-1993
- President, Salt Lake Winter Olympics Organizing Committee, 1999-2002
Political Experience:
- Governor, Massachusetts, 2003-2007 (pop: 6,437,193)
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Quoting other people. Way to copy and paste.
You still bore me …..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
fogw on January 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM
what does pretty have to do with anything … do you think Obama is “pretty?” huh?
coo coo bananas from the past? who?
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM
forgot the /sarc
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM
are you serious dude?
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I don’t think Palin supporters will accept anyone else as a substitute if there is a chance of having her as the candidate, and she has a LOT of supporters. If she wasn’t the nominee (especially if there are any unfair attacks or primary shenanigans), we’d see Republican PUMA-ism on a huge scale.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Good for you then, maybe it is a wash. Therefore we are where we knew we were in January of 08. We were probably going to loose anyways. Maybe Palin brought on enough of you TC’s to make it respectable, maybe she drove away as many as she attracted, maybe she drove away more, we will never really know.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:37 PM
AIP springs to mind immediately.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Squid, the Palin fanatics don’t want to accept this – I had defections all over my family because of her, friends jumped ship left and right. Once McCain voted for the Bailout, Palin’s daughter was pregnant and she bombed in interviews there was no way I could vote for her. But these maniacs want to really believe it was McCain who lost the election. I cannot tell you how many said they could vote for McCain but not her.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I’m sure there were people who were afraid a black President would be assassinated and moron Joe Biden would take over… NOT. Same logic, just as idiotic.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:38 PM
And historically, the Senate has been a poor path to the White House..
(not trying to jump on you)
I’m hoping things will change..
but if they don’t, I’m not giving up on looking for someone who is a good, solid conservative… I’ve been keeping an eye on Bobby Jindal :)
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 PM
You do know that has been debunked correct?
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Pretty has alot to do with it. And yes, general consensus would be that Obama is a pretty good looking man who dresses well and has immacualate teeth. Despite my distaste for the man personally, I wont deny that.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 PM
What the hell is a ‘TC’?
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Just do it , give up for goodness sake.
the_nile on January 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I hoping the libertarians drift back to the GOP once they realize that Obama will not, in fact, give them their pot-smoking utopia and in fact will be a big-spending nanny stater. We’ll need someone like Palin with a libertarian record to make that happen.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Jindal is good … Huntsman Jr. is better
but Huckster is already plotting his downfall because he is a mormon
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM
People vote for the top of the ticket, and having a pregnant daughter doesn’t disqualify a VP.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I’m guessing Theo-Con, that a HuffPo/Kos meme.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM
And maybe she brought in more.. my niece was going to vote for Obama before she switched her vote for Palin..
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM
you voted against somebody because of their daughter?
wow
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Yes, never has a losing VP candidate been elected President in the next election cycle, but never has a woman been elected President either. What is the chance that the two improbabilities could merge and be realized at the same time?
technopeasant on January 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM
You mean aside from his jug ears, purple lips, and ridiculous-looking nose-mole?
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM
This is a total myth, anyone with have a brain can research he anti-Fiscal conservative positions. Libertarians were actually split between Barr and Ron Paul.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I’m in the ‘wait until 2016′ group. I may be wrong and 2012 is her shot, but I think that waiting until 2016 is probably going to be the better move for a lot of reasons. In the meantime, I think that she needs to govern her state well, make the hard decisions, keep her nose clean, and make some rare appearances down in the Lower 48 to stay in the conversation. And I think that she is probably going to have to start forcefully knocking down 2012 talk if she wants to run for re-election in 2010.
meltenn on January 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I knew at least 4000 people that voted for McCain because of the Cuda
see … I said it so its true
also, my dad who never voted Republican in his life voted for McCain because of Palin
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I’m hoping they’re too stoned to vote next time. Really.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I know she was not a member, but she spoke at their conventions, her husband Todd was tied to them as well.
Of course her church is not my speed either, but that is her business not mine.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:43 PM
can you post Romney’s resume again … I missed it earlier
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Ah.. Squiddy is sounding more like a RINO anyway..
party above all
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:44 PM
what … the governor of a state welcomed a political convention VIA SATELLITE
I’m shocked! Shocked!
They democrat mayor of St. Paul welcomed the RNC to town … he must be a Republican!!!!!
Wow …
you and poptart are like an abbott and costello routine without the comedy
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:45 PM
She’s more than pretty, pretty doesn’t help against the corruption she’s taken down , and no Obama is not a good looking man. Just an average joe.
the_nile on January 6, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Also, Huck’s resume, you haven’t posted that for a while.
Jim62sch on January 6, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Negative, “True Conservative” as opposed to us evil “centrists” I used it during the primaries.
Nice try to link me huffPo
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Squid Shark
I’m from Illinois and I knew how Obama became State Senator , the Illinois Senator and then President . Without the blessings of Richard Daley and his machine, Obama would never be in an elected office in Illinois . Whereas , Palin had to fight even against her own party to win . Obama did not . Do you really think that Obama would win against Bobby Rush or even Jack Ryan without the help of the Daley machine . The joke in Illinois was this , if the Illinois Republican party was not under the payroll of the Daley machine , Ditka would had run against Obama and would had stopped Obama in his tracks .
DinobotPrime on January 6, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I said he was a GREAT President, not necessarily a GOOD human being. Great does not always mean good. And no we don’t need the lowest common denominator appeals, but we need two to three notches lower in appeal than the blue-blood old boys at the GOP and Beltway are giving us.
Sapwolf on January 6, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Hmmmm if I were governor would I send a greeting at all to a secessionist party, forget a complimentary one?
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Now that is funny because it’s oh, so true.
So many times it’s see … I said it so its true even when you cite facts and links over and over.
INC on January 6, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Governor Palin is unqualified because:
Her daughter was pregnant
Her “resume” is not Romney’s
She is “pretty”
Mass. is a bigger state
“My dad voted for the democrat-socialist because of her”
and she welcomed a political convention to town via satellite
oh and she has no “foreign policy experience”
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM
I am not denying that he had help and I am not denying that Palin did some good things fighting the corruption in her state.
However, yes I think that he would have beat Jack Ryan since ol’ Jack pretty much beat himself didnt he?
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM
do you know anything about the AIP?
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:50 PM
it’s called ‘Playing Politics’
look into it sometime..
besides, have you seen the entire greeting? gently reminding the members of the party they are still a citizen of the state of Alaska and the US?
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Well I never mentioned her daughter.
I dont like Romney, quit implying that I do.
And all the other things were comparisons to the cult around Obama.
And even if I thought she was ready to become president, I would likely not vote for her in a primary.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:51 PM
of course he hasn’t seen the greeting … I have never seen a group of people so unprepared to debate the merits of Governor Palin as the bunch here
they nothing except what they read at the daily kos and what Brian Williams tells them
drones
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Kinda off topic..
I’m at the second episode of ‘John Adams’ and Adams was talking about how appealing to the center never did anything and most civilizations perished because of it..
DaveC on January 6, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I was referring to all the lame arguments presented here
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM
But…I thought she was this principled savior from the great white north!
Given the (admittedly few) Alaskans I know and what I recall from being up there, I would be suspicious of anyone that came out that state. Just as I am suspicious of people who come out of Chicago. Or Louisiana.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Romneycare.
No one is impressed by his hair, his Bain Capital days or his lame jokes… or the Olympics. Let him run something between now and 2012 — as a conservative — or shut up about him… and his “condom-wearing” Children of the Corn.
chunderroad on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
That’s just troll talk. Everybody knows McCain was a dud except for the surge. His campaign was dead in the water and could do little until Palin joined the ticket.
Sure, there were McCain people who voted for Obama because of his pick of Palin, but very few compared to the number of Repubs. that decided to send in money, volunteer time, and get out to vote instead of staying home once Sarah was on board.
Sapwolf on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
And myself included!
ramrocks on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Oh snap! No he didn’t! Ha! :)
DeathToMediaHacks on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
But surely you must be Lib, a Democrat spy, a Troll or working for the Daily Kos? How can you not support the right-wing messiah?
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Honestly … I could not explain why I was voting for McCain other than national defense and that he was not Obama until the Cuda came along
joey24007 on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I have seen the greeting, they are available for all to see on YouTube.
And I have never seen people so enthralled and enraptured with someone since the last Obama Rally.
Squid Shark on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Romney has a good resume.
That’s not enough. He’s a Republican Al Gore in terms of charisma. He simply didn’t connect with the voters.
If he wants to burn a few million more of his dollars in four years on another losing run, he’s welcome to.
Media companies need stimulus too.
cs89 on January 6, 2009 at 11:56 PM
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