if the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be no war, but if the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel.

Get this on bumper-stickers, T-shirts, posters, placards, etc. and drill it into the public consciousness. It’s absolutely true! AND it puts the lie to Jimah Carter style palestinian apologetics.

thinkagain on January 6, 2009 at 3:18 PM

One other important point I should add. Let’s not forget that most of Islam is dedicated towards us (while we remain blissfully unaware). In their religion, we’re the bad guys, the source of evil on earth, the cause of all their pain and suffering.

Sura 8:12 – I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Qur’an 8:39 – So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.

They believe by eliminating all non-muslims and Islamifying the planet they will finally achieve peace and they think this is what their demonic god wants. Their imams preach this and the followers all pray for our destruction and death on a regular basis in their mosques.

That level of intense ritualized, repetitive hatred can warp anyone’s mind. I haven’t even touched on Sharia Law, the endemic misogyny nor the fascist-totalitarian theocratic medieval political system. While it seems preposterous to the average western mind that people could actually take such ideas seriously, that is the reality of this death cult.

We should remember that these seemingly isolated conflicts are not about Hamas, Jamat-e-Islam, Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc. but rather they are all battles in the global Islamic jihad against all us non-muslims.

This is the enemy we are fighting (in videos-for those who might not have seen them before):

Death to America
Death to Israel
muslims rioting against women’s rights
Imam says every muslim should be a terrorist
killing non-muslims is legitimate
the enemy within NYC
Fakeistanians celebrating 9/11-WTC attack
imam claims muslims will rule America, Britain
rules of wife-beating

There is this underlying truth to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: if the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be no war, but if the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel.

Well said, and needs to be repeated often.

crazy_legs on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Yes. Soundbite of the Year Award for the Captain. Short, simple, direct, and sadly, true.

thinkagain on January 6, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Excuse my math, I meant 85%, which is an overwhelming majority.

These muslims are not poor, defenseless victims of Hamas, they are their supporters so let’s stop pretending such a division exists within Islam. As if we need further proof, the global muslim riots and mass anti-semitic, pro-terrorist demonstrations (as well as violence, looting thuggery) make it patently clear that most muslims are an enemy to civilization.

Our only concern should be for the defense of our people and by ‘our’ I mean Israelis, Americans, Europeans, Hindus, Chinese and whoever else happens to be the victims of Islamofascism.

I don’t give a damn if the Gazans are suffering and need humanitarian aid. Maybe they should’ve voted more wisely if they didn’t want to bring these misery on themselves. But as muslims say they love death more than we infidels love life, so they must love misery more than happiness. LET GAZA BURN (and the muslim world also).

You seem to be equating WWII with Hamas firing rockets into Israel and killing a handful of citizens.

Perhaps we should be grateful that other nations do not react this way when attacked or we would have perpetual wars. I suppose you would have advocated airstrikes against Dublin and Boston in response to IRA bombings. Or perhaps India and Pakistan should start exchanging nuclear detonations now.

Well actually we have Hamas who is the government of Gaza declaring war by attacking Israel, as far as I am concerned its war and they started it. The Philistines voted for Hamas so they are perhaps more deserving than the Germans who did not actually vote Hitler into power.

So you think its OK to just lob misiles into Israel then?

In terms of the IRA I thought that cross border raids by special forces was the correct approach and I also recognise that it was not the policy of Ireland to take back Northern Ireland by war. So do you want to come up with a better argument than that!

In terms of India, it was a terrorist group operating within Pakistan with support from elements of the Pakistani intelligence service which have links with AQ and the Taliban based on their game in Afghanistan, personally I think India would be mad to attack a Pakistani government that was taking the fight to AQ and the Taliban, but at some point India will have to go to war with Pakistan, its inevitable, but at this point if I was India I would wait. India holds the disputed ground there and suffers many attacks from terrorists operating with and outside the Pakistani government, at this point I think they are not acting with the current Pakistani government.

Can you think of a better argument, at this point I regret the death of the women and children, but like any war situation in cities the civillians will suffer, Hamas started it and as such Israel must keep at it, they cannot afford to let Hamas off the hook, sadly its going to continue like this and being realistic this is the only way.

So, the United Nations builds a school in Gaza, which Hamas converts into a mortar base. (Michelle Malkin shows that this has been going on for months, and Ace has related thoughts.) As good an argument for defunding the U.N. as I’ve heard lately (of …

So, you’re complaint is that not enough Jews have been killed…

pseudonominus on January 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Not at all. I was in northern Israel when much larger weapons were flying through the air. I understand that the Israelis had to react with force. I just don’t think they are reacting the right way if they want the rockets to stop.

If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be no war, but if the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel.

QFT. I don’t recall seeing this so succinctly put before.

You seem to be equating WWII with Hamas firing rockets into Israel and killing a handful of citizens.

Perhaps we should be grateful that other nations do not react this way when attacked or we would have perpetual wars. I suppose you would have advocated airstrikes against Dublin and Boston in response to IRA bombings. Or perhaps India and Pakistan should start exchanging nuclear detonations now.

lexhamfox on January 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

So, you’re complaint is that not enough Jews have been killed…

You seem to be equating WWII with Hamas firing rockets into Israel and killing a handful of citizens.

Perhaps we should be grateful that other nations do not react this way when attacked or we would have perpetual wars. I suppose you would have advocated airstrikes against Dublin and Boston in response to IRA bombings. Or perhaps India and Pakistan should start exchanging nuclear detonations now.

I want Israelis to have security. I do not think the current strategy will work. Even when Gaza was occupied by the IDF missiles were launched. The events in Gaza undermine many of the Arab governments friendly to Israel. It remains to be seen if this will work but past actions like this (Lebanon 82 and Lebanon 06) have only served to strengthen or even create radicals (82).

Yes I agree its bad and I do not like it that they were killed, but Israel as a whole would regret their deaths, I think I would see just total joy and rejoicing if the tables were turned. But once Hamas started lobbing missiles into Israel in an attempt to drive Israeli’s off of the land then they have created the conditions for total war, in which case now that Israel have made this error it had better stick to it and win a total victory, in other words the total destruction of the Hamas military and the killing or capture of their political leadership.

Fact is that during the second world war some people questioned the strategy of Bomber Harris. But anyway, proportional war just seems to prolong the agony, though the only way that Israel will ever get peace is if they roll over and die, the Israeli people should realise that they will never have peace with Islam and must be prepared to defend themsevles at all times and to do whatever it takes. If they lose every single Jew in Israel will be killed, its as simple as that.

lexhamfox on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Thanks for the recommendation

Reuters:

GAZA, Jan 6 (Reuters) – Israeli tank fire killed up to 40 Palestinians at a United Nations school in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, medical sources at two Gaza hospitals said.

Two tank shells exploded outside the school, residents said, spraying shrapnel on people inside and outside the building, where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge from fighting between Israeli soldiers and Hamas militants.

Reuters journalists filmed bodies scattered on the ground amid pools of blood and torn shoes and clothes. A donkey also lay on the ground in its own blood.

In addition to the dead, several dozen people were wounded, the hospital officials said.

Poor donkey!

The Beeb reports that an airstrike on a school in Gaza City killed thirty children, injuring 55. We all agree that’s bad, right?

factoid on January 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

It is bad that brave hamas hides behind their children and under the skirts of their women. Maybe they should try working to elevate their families rather than kill jews

if the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be no war, but if the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel.

Exactly. I may gripe about our government pretty frequently, but I’m pretty confident they’d never turn on us like Hamas thugs have on their citizens. It’s scary how easily terrorist organizations can convince people that voting for them is in their best interest though. It happens in a lot of countries. Democratically.

The Beeb reports that an airstrike on a school in Gaza City killed thirty children, injuring 55. We all agree that’s bad, right?

factoid on January 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

no we can’t. Hamas has no problem lobbing missiles into israeli schools…so its total war. just like when we bombed germany and japan…did we worry about ‘civilian’ casualties??

no because there are no civilians…didn’t 9/11 teach you that??

The article states that a number of children were among the dead, not all thirty. Regardless, their blood is on the hands of Hamas, not Israel. No rockets, no retaliation. Simple really.