Sour Caroline: Public support drops 31 points for Kennedy appointment

posted at 11:40 am on January 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Because, you know, the people, you know, need to, you know, support the selection of, you know, Hillary’s replacement.  New Yorkers haven’t completely given up on dynasty politics, though, as Andrew Cuomo becomes the beneficiary of Caroline Kennedy’s collapse (via Cuffy Meigs):

Caroline Kennedy’s popularity has suffered a “clear hit” as a result of her public campaign for Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Senate seat, while Attorney General Andrew Cuomo’s positive ratings have shot up, according to a new poll.

According to Public Policy Polling, of Raleigh, N.C., 44 percent of New York State voters now say they have a less favorable opinion of Kennedy than they did before she started vying for the position. Thirty-three percent say it’s made no difference, and 23 percent report now having a more favorable opinion of her.

Cuomo now leads Kennedy 58-27 in a survey of the preferences of state voters. Among Democrats, Cuomo is ahead of Kennedy 54-34 percent; a month ago, the survey found Kennedy ahead of Cuomo by 44-23 percent among Democrats.

Does this mean Paterson won’t choose Kennedy?  Not necessarily.  If Paterson is convinced that Kennedy is the best candidate for the position, he has plenary authority to make the appointment.  After all, Caroline Kennedy has a strong resume, consisting of … er … well … her last name?

Cuomo at least makes some sense in terms of qualifications.  While being part of a two-generation dynasty, Cuomo has served in public office and won a statewide election for Attorney General.  I’m no fan of his politics, but Paterson won’t be naming a Republican to the seat anyway, and Cuomo at least has some credibility.

Speaking of Republicans, Jazz Shaw thinks that Peter King might have a shot at winning the special election in 2010:

Peter King is likely the GOP’s best hope (besides Rudy Giuliani) to seize either the Governor’s office or the Senate seat in 2010. Both Paterson and – potentially – Caroline Kennedy have been suffering from “The Utica Problem” (where politicians perceived as being too much in the pocket of New York City anger the more conservative, rural upstate voters) this winter, so Republicans are sensing an opportunity. King has a long, successful record in Nassau County, and has suffered remarkably little in the way of scandal or controversy outside of his interests in Ireland’s troubles.

King also has other reasons to be interested in a new job. New York is expected to lose one House seat in the upcoming redistricting shuffle and the Congressman is one of only three remaining Republicans in the state delegation. With Democratic majorities in both chambers of the state government and the Governor’s mansion, insiders expect them to look to remove one of these few GOP seats, so King’s current job may go the way of the dodo bird. If he can raise the money for such a run, King will likely be a formidable candidate.

King has a national profile as well, which will help in fundraising.  He’s about as conservative as it gets in New York, which will make him popular with grassroots organizers on the Right, especially if he goes up against Andrew Cuomo.  Still, I don’t see King beating Cuomo; as much as Kennedy has a “Utica problem”, I’d expect that the Big Apple advantage Cuomo would have would be too much for King to overcome.

Giuliani would have a better chance against Cuomo or Kennedy, if he decides to run.  However, the New York GOP also has George Pataki, who won statewide office three times as Governor, and probably looks even better to New Yorkers after the debacles of Eliot Spitzer and David Paterson.  Maybe the GOP can convince Pataki to try his luck a fourth time.


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I guess I need to start rooting for Kennedy. Her appointment would put that Senate seat easily within striking distance of almost any Republican. I think Cuomo Jr. could put up a better fight, at least he wouldn’t look like a carpetbagger.

Similar situation in Maryland about 6 years back when the Kennedy clan tried to buy the governorship for one of their empty suits (Kathleen, I think). Produced a rare win for a Republican in the governor’s race.

doufree on January 6, 2009 at 11:47 AM

You can’t keep piling on her, Ed! She’s the best the Democrats have — after Franken, of course.

unclesmrgol on January 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Like you know it dosn’t matter,it’s just numbers you know,once I’m in you know the puplic has a you know,short memory you know.We’ll just you know,move on you know,deal with it you know.

budaside on January 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Gosh. Why are New Yorkers turning away from her? Do ‘ya think that the image presented by her supporters in the MSM and the Democratic Party did not match the reality of who she really was as displayed in her television interviews?

Mmmmm…could be.

kingsjester on January 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Well, you know. Um…

Kennedy or Obama?

cannonball on January 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM

You know what Patterson needs to do:

Name Al Sharpton.

That way Burress has no leg to stand on in being the only black Senator.

Just to add some flavor.

I mean, Senator Sharpton does have a ring to it.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

The more deadweight they bring on board, the faster they’ll sink.

Go Kennedy!

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Well she IS the best the dims have………you know!

grapeknutz on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Where it began, I can’t begin to know when
But then I know it’s growing strong
Oh, wasn’t the spring, whooo
And spring became the summer
Who’d believe you’d come along

Hands, touching hands, reaching out
Touching me, touching you
Oh, sweet Caroline
Good times never seem so good
I’ve been inclined to believe it never would

And now I, I look at the night, whooo
And it don’t seem so lonely
We fill it up with only two, oh
And when I hurt
Hurting runs off my shoulder
How can I hurt when holding you

Oh, one, touching one, reaching out
Touching me, touching you
Oh, sweet Caroline
Good times never seem so good
Oh I’ve been inclined to believe it never would

Ohhh, sweet Caroline, good times never seem so good

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I can listen to that song all day!

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I sure hope that nit wit twit doesn’t get in the Senate. I love unclesmrgol’s post! Great one. The Liberal’s don’t realize what scum the Kennedy’s are. They funded the IRA years ago for chrimany sakes! They are in a lot of illegal business. And then that murderer Ted still kept his seat! A bunch of crap. Guess if you are a crook, and have a record which a lot of our Reps do have. You can be in a Government position.

sheebe on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Just to add some flavor flava.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

FTFY ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Still, I don’t see King beating Cuomo; as much as Kennedy has a “Utica problem”, I’d expect that the Big Apple advantage Cuomo would have would be too much for King to overcome.

I’m not so sure about that, Ed. King is very popular in NYC in spite of the R after his name. Popular with the police and firemen as well. His tough stance against terrorism has appeal to those most closely affected by 9/11.

IrishEi on January 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I can listen to that song all day!

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I love that song too! Is a great one as is pretty much all of his songs. But I am sure he didn’t write that song for her. At least I sure hope not.

sheebe on January 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM

jimmy the notable, you are a subversive sir!

Why not name Charlie Rangle, he is going to be looking for a job soon anyway?

Burris could mix things up by nominating Chicago sons and daughters like Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, or Oprah Winfrey!

If we are going to have a circus, bring out the clown car!

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Governor Giuliani
Senator Pataki.

Side note: My local DMV still has a mural on the wall with Pataki listed as the Governor.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Caligula at least sent his whole horse to the Senate, Minnesota just sent the back half.

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM

sheebe on January 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Neil’s sure he did.

Snowed In on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

But I am sure he didn’t write that song for her. At least I sure hope not.

sheebe on January 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Sorry to upset you.

IrishEi on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Oh yes! Oprah would be even better! That’s be a Senator that Obama could really trust!

Better yet! Appoint Michelle Obama!

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Sour Caroline {Fill-In ANY KennedY}: Public support drops 31 points for Kennedy appointment

– just my thoughts, “She is dumb as a rock; her father was an MLK, Jr. eavesdropper; screwed over those at the Bay of Pigs; philanderer which would make a porn star blush; and her mother was a gold-digging whore” on why “Sweet Caroline” should keep her bony a$$ out of my rights and wallet via the senate???

Am I the only one sick of this freeloading; self-styled euroweenie; elitist family; whose patriarch was one of the biggest Nazi Symps during the 1930s & 1940s and never stopped being the Boston Trash Bootlegger anti-semite he was after the war?

Branch Rickey on January 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Echoes of ‘Idiocracy’

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Just another, you know, example of, you know, rampant, um, sexism among the populace.

CarolynM on January 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Speaking of Republicans, Jazz Shaw thinks that Peter King might have a shot at winning the special election in 2010:

Perish That Thought Now!

Branch Rickey on January 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Just to add some flavor flava.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM
FTFY ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

You beat me to it …

doufree on January 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

C’mon New York. You have to put this moron into the US Senate. She fits perfectly with this group of Idiots, Scoundrels, Thieves and Moral Deviants….

sabbott on January 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

This is no surprise.

For all the lamentations about the media trashing Sarah Palin while extolling Caroline Kennedy, the PUBLIC can see “not ready” regardless of the (D) from a mile away.****

****offer void in elections where the tantalizing “I voted for the first black president!” trumps out the public’s skepticism

battleoflepanto1571 on January 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

OT: Why is Fred Thompson at the Senate conformation hearing on Fox News? I just saw him.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

OT: Why is Fred Thompson at the Senate conformation hearing swearing in of the senators on Fox News? I just saw him.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Caroline has edited poetry books, you jerks.

Bishop on January 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

So good! So good! So good!

Kid from Brooklyn on January 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM

RNC nominee… just a thought.

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Bishop on January 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

No more rhymes now, I mean it!

Snowed In on January 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Bishop on January 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Given her family’s exploits, you mean poems like:
“There once was a girl from Nantucket…?”

kingsjester on January 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Could be. It was weird.

Cheney was swearing in the first 4 guys, then there were 4 guys behind them, and Fred Thompson was like, right there, standing next to those 4 guys.

Whatever, he was probably and honored guest or something. I bet old Senators get to come back whenever they want.

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM

I’m sure Caroline Kennedy is a wonderful woman. But I just don’t think she’s ready for the big show.

SoulGlo on January 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I’m sure Caroline Kennedy is a wonderful woman…

SoulGlo on January 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Just curious. What makes you sure?

IrishEi on January 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Mr. Joe @11:58

Ha Ha Ha! Good one.

Still Caroline will bring the smell of Cameltoe to the new administration and anything to distract from reality will be useful.

BL@KBIRD on January 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Al Franken in a dress

Wade on January 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I always believed the only worthwhile Kennedy died in WWII. Of course, it’s possible that, had he lived and gone on to politics, he would have turned out to be just another Kennedy turd, but I’d like to think not.

SKYFOX on January 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM

a month ago, the survey found Kennedy ahead of Cuomo by 44-23 percent among Democrats.

Obviously the poll was taken before anyone heard her speak. Nice to see the libs have some standards.

Tommy_G on January 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Al Franken in a dress

…is infinitely more qualified than Caroline Schlossberg.

Plus, then Coleman could keep his rightfully-won-but-currently-stolen seat. Win-win.

Snowed In on January 6, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Kennedy.

I was going to change our family name to OBAMA .

Then I thought about the next four years going bad. Then I thought about the media alternatively not reporting the misery or blaming President Bush. Then I thought, that infamy has value, too. The I thought about a LOT of infamy..then I thought, oh…the heck with it!

IlikedAUH2O on January 6, 2009 at 12:40 PM

There’s an opening in the Cabinet!

Chuck Schick on January 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM

She’ll probably get CIA when Panetta gets the boot.

drunyan8315 on January 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Well ya know, it sure wouldn’t look, ya know, very ya know, smart.

But I still think they will, ya know.

tarpon on January 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

One percentage point for every five “you know”s in a single interview.

Camelot? More like Spamelot.

Jaibones on January 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I’m sure Caroline Kennedy is a wonderful woman. But I just don’t think she’s ready for the big show.

SoulGlo on January 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I wouldn’t hire someone that talks like Caroline Kennedy to be my receptionist, and the drunk, whoring Governor-by-accident in New York wants to make her a Senator?

Our culture has been destroyed by liberals.

Jaibones on January 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I urged that kings and queens were dangerous. He said, then have cats. He was sure that a royal family of cats would answer every purpose. They would be as useful as any other royal family, they would know as much, they would have the same virtues and the same treacheries, the same disposition to get up shindies with other royal cats, they would be laughably vain and absurd and never know it, they would be wholly inexpensive, finally, they would have as sound a divine right as any other royal house. The worship of royalty being founded in unreason, these graceful and harmless cats would easily become as sacred as any other royalties, and indeed more so, because it would presently be noticed that they hanged nobody, beheaded nobody, imprisoned nobody, inflicted no cruelties or injustices of any sort, and so must be worthy of a deeper love and reverence than the customary human king and queen, and would certainly get it.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on January 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Why not have Peter King run for Governor, and Pataki for Senate? I doubt Rudy is a political asset anymore, after his disastrous run for president and losing to a loser like McCain.

infidelpride on January 6, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I am a New Yorker, born and bred.
The idea of Caroline Kennedy representing the great State of New York repulses me. This woman has no political qualifications and has done nothing in the politics of NY. Enough of the dynasties. Just because she’s a Kennedy doesn’t guarantee her a seat in the Congress.

So many others have done more for the state and would make better choices. But Patterson is a political animal and he’s worried about his own political life if he doesn’t choose Caroline. The people of NY are not interested in her. The state is in too much trouble to just get a NYTimes favorite in office.

stefystef on January 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

What does public support have to do with this?

It’s Princess Caroline and the Fool has touched her with his scepter.

She’s in.

notagool on January 6, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Kennedy turd, but I’d like to think not.

SKYFOX on January 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Joe Sr was the 1st turd out, and the line continues.

Wade on January 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM

I can’t believe this. New York deserves to have its extremely honest senator succeeded by an extremely articulate senator.

whitetop on January 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Damn NYC, it`s a giant leech sucking my state dry.

ThePrez on January 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

THIS is the story that should be #1 on Hot Air – NOT Allahpundits obsessive onanism about Sarah Palin!!!

grtflmark on January 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM