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	<title>Comments on: Raiding the Lockbox: The hypocrisy of Obama&#8217;s tax &#8220;cuts&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1762767</link>
		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this idea. Get rid of the income tax altogether. Let the govenment get all our money. What they don&#039;t spend at the end of the year they can give back to us.....has that ever been tried?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this idea. Get rid of the income tax altogether. Let the govenment get all our money. What they don&#8217;t spend at the end of the year they can give back to us&#8230;..has that ever been tried?</p>
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		<title>By: Xiphos</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1762691</link>
		<dc:creator>Xiphos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From GAO report number&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gao.gov/htext/d08847t.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; GAO-08-847T&lt;/a&gt; entitled &#039;Fiscal Year 2007 U.S. Government Financial Statements [...] which was released on June 5, 2008.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[...]

The future costs of Social Security and Medicare commitments are reported in the Statement of Social Insurance in the Financial Report. We were able to render an unqualified opinion on the 2007 Statement of Social Insurance--a significant accomplishment for the federal government. The statement displays the present value of projected revenues and expenditures for scheduled benefits of social insurance programs. For Social Security and Medicare alone, projected expenditures for scheduled benefits exceed earmarked revenues (i.e., dedicated payroll taxes and premiums) by approximately $41 trillion over the next 75 years in present value terms. Stated differently, one would need approximately $41 trillion invested today to deliver on the currently promised benefits not covered by earmarked revenues for the next 75 years. 

[...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sooner or later, something&#039;s gonna have to give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From GAO report number<a href="http://www.gao.gov/htext/d08847t.html" rel="nofollow"> GAO-08-847T</a> entitled &#8216;Fiscal Year 2007 U.S. Government Financial Statements [...] which was released on June 5, 2008.</p>
<blockquote><p>[...]</p>
<p>The future costs of Social Security and Medicare commitments are reported in the Statement of Social Insurance in the Financial Report. We were able to render an unqualified opinion on the 2007 Statement of Social Insurance&#8211;a significant accomplishment for the federal government. The statement displays the present value of projected revenues and expenditures for scheduled benefits of social insurance programs. For Social Security and Medicare alone, projected expenditures for scheduled benefits exceed earmarked revenues (i.e., dedicated payroll taxes and premiums) by approximately $41 trillion over the next 75 years in present value terms. Stated differently, one would need approximately $41 trillion invested today to deliver on the currently promised benefits not covered by earmarked revenues for the next 75 years. </p>
<p>[...]</p></blockquote>
<p>Sooner or later, something&#8217;s gonna have to give.</p>
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		<title>By: ColtsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColtsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This commentary is a good example of why Captain Ed is a welcome addition to the Hot Air community.

Thank you for this informative post, Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This commentary is a good example of why Captain Ed is a welcome addition to the Hot Air community.</p>
<p>Thank you for this informative post, Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that many people just do not understand several of the major components of social security.  The first one is that it was not created as a welfare program.  It seems that Obama does not understand this basic point.  From what little understanding that Obama has shown me that he has regarding how social security collects money, as clearly indicated by his own comments during the last election cycle, I do not think he is even aware of what the various &#039;revenue&#039; changes he has proposed would actually mean.

We will need to see the actual details of this &#039;stimulus&#039; to find out what implications, if any, are in it.  For example, if he is refunding revenues that are collected for social security, is he referring to both the employee and the employer contributions?  How will this impact the ultimate distribution to the contributor at retirement?

I do not think any of this has been considered by Obama as he is simply not yet aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that many people just do not understand several of the major components of social security.  The first one is that it was not created as a welfare program.  It seems that Obama does not understand this basic point.  From what little understanding that Obama has shown me that he has regarding how social security collects money, as clearly indicated by his own comments during the last election cycle, I do not think he is even aware of what the various &#8216;revenue&#8217; changes he has proposed would actually mean.</p>
<p>We will need to see the actual details of this &#8217;stimulus&#8217; to find out what implications, if any, are in it.  For example, if he is refunding revenues that are collected for social security, is he referring to both the employee and the employer contributions?  How will this impact the ultimate distribution to the contributor at retirement?</p>
<p>I do not think any of this has been considered by Obama as he is simply not yet aware.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Michael:  If you read my first post you will see I am quite &#039;on board&#039; with the fraud they are perpetrating on us.

At least with partial privatization the greediest generation couldn&#039;t get it ALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Michael:  If you read my first post you will see I am quite &#8216;on board&#8217; with the fraud they are perpetrating on us.</p>
<p>At least with partial privatization the greediest generation couldn&#8217;t get it ALL.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark30339</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark30339</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;Mystery Science Theater 3000&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;em&gt;Annenberg Challenge One Trillion&lt;/em&gt;.  It looks like this show will have some damn expensive popcorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>Mystery Science Theater 3000</strike> <em>Annenberg Challenge One Trillion</em>.  It looks like this show will have some damn expensive popcorn.</p>
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		<title>By: 18-1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1761766</link>
		<dc:creator>18-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if by liberal logic you can get tax cuts even though you don&#039;t pay taxes, can I get affirmative action even though I&#039;m melanin challenged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if by liberal logic you can get tax cuts even though you don&#8217;t pay taxes, can I get affirmative action even though I&#8217;m melanin challenged?</p>
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		<title>By: PatMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Y’know that scene in “Dumb’n&#039;Dumber’ at the end, where the bad guy looks in the briefcase to find a kajillion IOUs…

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;




Hey, spoiler alert!  I was waiting to go see that movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Y’know that scene in “Dumb’n&#8217;Dumber’ at the end, where the bad guy looks in the briefcase to find a kajillion IOUs…</p>
<p>LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, spoiler alert!  I was waiting to go see that movie!</p>
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		<title>By: Against Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Raiding the Lockbox: The hypocrisy of Obama’s tax “cuts”...&lt;/strong&gt;

By Ed Morrissey
HOT AIR - Anyone who follows politics will recall the hue and cry that greeted President Bush&#8217;s 2005 proposal to allow workers to save a portion of their Social Security payroll taxes in personal accounts. But even many who follow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Raiding the Lockbox: The hypocrisy of Obama’s tax “cuts”&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>By Ed Morrissey<br />
HOT AIR &#8211; Anyone who follows politics will recall the hue and cry that greeted President Bush&rsquo;s 2005 proposal to allow workers to save a portion of their Social Security payroll taxes in personal accounts. But even many who follow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1761488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emperor Joseph II:  There are too many notes. 

W.A. Mozart:  But, Sire!

Emperor Joseph II: My dear young man, don&#039;t take it too hard. Your work is ingenious. It&#039;s quality work. And there are simply too many notes, that&#039;s all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect. 

Mozart: Which few did you have in mind, Majesty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emperor Joseph II:  There are too many notes. </p>
<p>W.A. Mozart:  But, Sire!</p>
<p>Emperor Joseph II: My dear young man, don&#8217;t take it too hard. Your work is ingenious. It&#8217;s quality work. And there are simply too many notes, that&#8217;s all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect. </p>
<p>Mozart: Which few did you have in mind, Majesty?</p>
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		<title>By: The Jazz Singer and the Stimulus Package &#171; JoHNBRoDiGaNDoTCoM</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1761482</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jazz Singer and the Stimulus Package &#171; JoHNBRoDiGaNDoTCoM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stimulus without seeing the actual plan and where the money is going. Other conservatives are a lot more ideological than I am, and want no stimulus period. I just don&#8217;t like being expected to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stimulus without seeing the actual plan and where the money is going. Other conservatives are a lot more ideological than I am, and want no stimulus period. I just don&#8217;t like being expected to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: concernedsenior</title>
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		<dc:creator>concernedsenior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really was a lockbox on the SS trustfund and it had enough money for a very long time. Backtrack to the 60&#039;s and I really can&#039;t remember if it was Kennedy or Johnson that saw all this money sitting there and being Dems. had to figure a way to get their sticky fingers on it and decided to make it part of the GENERAL FUND and replace it with IOU&#039;S that is the biggest reason why SS cannot keep up to-day. SS was meant just to pay retirees, not everything the tax and spend dems pay out of it. If you didn&#039;t pay into it you shouldn&#039;t get anything out of it Very simple concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really was a lockbox on the SS trustfund and it had enough money for a very long time. Backtrack to the 60&#8217;s and I really can&#8217;t remember if it was Kennedy or Johnson that saw all this money sitting there and being Dems. had to figure a way to get their sticky fingers on it and decided to make it part of the GENERAL FUND and replace it with IOU&#8217;S that is the biggest reason why SS cannot keep up to-day. SS was meant just to pay retirees, not everything the tax and spend dems pay out of it. If you didn&#8217;t pay into it you shouldn&#8217;t get anything out of it Very simple concept.</p>
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		<title>By: cannonball</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannonball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes. Transparency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. Transparency.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Its MY MONEY you idiots.

DavidM on January 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, actually, no it&#039;s not.  Your parents and mine have promised your money to pay off the bills they agreed to starting back in the &#039;30s or so.  And now they want your Grandchildren&#039;s money to pay THEIR wages so that Social Security payments can cover all of their retirement costs.

Reality Check:  Ask a retired Republican if they support only paying Social Security to those who have no way to pay for food and rent.  Go ahead.  Today&#039;s retirees had their Congressmen create this mess.  Today&#039;s workers are sheepishly allowing it to continue, because they can still buy a big screen TV.  Today&#039;s children are scheduled to pay the Big Bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Its MY MONEY you idiots.</p>
<p>DavidM on January 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, actually, no it&#8217;s not.  Your parents and mine have promised your money to pay off the bills they agreed to starting back in the &#8217;30s or so.  And now they want your Grandchildren&#8217;s money to pay THEIR wages so that Social Security payments can cover all of their retirement costs.</p>
<p>Reality Check:  Ask a retired Republican if they support only paying Social Security to those who have no way to pay for food and rent.  Go ahead.  Today&#8217;s retirees had their Congressmen create this mess.  Today&#8217;s workers are sheepishly allowing it to continue, because they can still buy a big screen TV.  Today&#8217;s children are scheduled to pay the Big Bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Snidely Whiplash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snidely Whiplash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another huge problem with SS is the small (and getting smaller) base of &quot;donors&quot;, i.e. taxpayers in the private sector. Remember that government employees of all types, including teachers, police, and your run of the mill federal, state, and local employees, are not in the SS system. Because their numbers are growing (govt keeps getting bigger, and BHO proposes adding as many as 600K new federal employees), the SS system is bound to fail. The only solution is to get all govt employees on the SS system, and even that may not be enough to save SS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another huge problem with SS is the small (and getting smaller) base of &#8220;donors&#8221;, i.e. taxpayers in the private sector. Remember that government employees of all types, including teachers, police, and your run of the mill federal, state, and local employees, are not in the SS system. Because their numbers are growing (govt keeps getting bigger, and BHO proposes adding as many as 600K new federal employees), the SS system is bound to fail. The only solution is to get all govt employees on the SS system, and even that may not be enough to save SS.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Ponzis-Scheme-Story-Financial-Legend/dp/0812968360/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1231278819&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ponzi&#039;s Scheme: The True Story of a Financial Legend &lt;/a&gt;

As you would expect, not a happy ending with this story either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ponzis-Scheme-Story-Financial-Legend/dp/0812968360/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1231278819&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Ponzi&#8217;s Scheme: The True Story of a Financial Legend </a></p>
<p>As you would expect, not a happy ending with this story either.</p>
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		<title>By: Count to 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count to 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Galt’s 50+ page monologue requires prescribed cocaine to endure.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I get the impression that Rand couldn&#039;t be bothered to go back and proof read it.  It is also full of strawman attacks on religion so crude that even I find them insulting--I would wonder and the tenacity of an actual christian that didn&#039;t throw the book across the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Galt’s 50+ page monologue requires prescribed cocaine to endure.</p>
<p>LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I get the impression that Rand couldn&#8217;t be bothered to go back and proof read it.  It is also full of strawman attacks on religion so crude that even I find them insulting&#8211;I would wonder and the tenacity of an actual christian that didn&#8217;t throw the book across the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Schick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Schick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember- the latest stimulus package (third or fourth in 2008) barred all but 28% of its $60 billion from being spent in 2009.

So in other words, its worthless.

Here&#039;s how these things work...  they pass a huge amount to make it look like theyre doing something to the public.  If the economy turns around on its own, they cancel the bulk of the spending and claim fiscal responsibility.

It&#039;s win/win for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember- the latest stimulus package (third or fourth in 2008) barred all but 28% of its $60 billion from being spent in 2009.</p>
<p>So in other words, its worthless.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how these things work&#8230;  they pass a huge amount to make it look like theyre doing something to the public.  If the economy turns around on its own, they cancel the bulk of the spending and claim fiscal responsibility.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s win/win for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Danish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how he&#039;ll pay for this perfectly horrible idea which won&#039;t do jack to &quot;stimulate&quot; the economy, but instead will cripple economic growth:

He&#039;ll get rid of all limits on income that is subject to payroll taxes, and for those poor fools who dare to make more than $250,000 a year, they will be taxed on every dime they make - to infinity. 

In other words, it&#039;s the greatest wealth re-distribution scheme evah (in the U.S. of A.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how he&#8217;ll pay for this perfectly horrible idea which won&#8217;t do jack to &#8220;stimulate&#8221; the economy, but instead will cripple economic growth:</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll get rid of all limits on income that is subject to payroll taxes, and for those poor fools who dare to make more than $250,000 a year, they will be taxed on every dime they make &#8211; to infinity. </p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s the greatest wealth re-distribution scheme evah (in the U.S. of A.).</p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me started - an economy that runs so thoroughly on debt that it becomes the major player in GDP is screwed any way you look at it. Tick tick tick - shut off the debt clock. Better to pick a debt implosion number and have it count down instead. A coworker just finally paid off a credit card balance, and they had the nerve to call him at dinner time to ask &quot;why?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me started &#8211; an economy that runs so thoroughly on debt that it becomes the major player in GDP is screwed any way you look at it. Tick tick tick &#8211; shut off the debt clock. Better to pick a debt implosion number and have it count down instead. A coworker just finally paid off a credit card balance, and they had the nerve to call him at dinner time to ask &#8220;why?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1761115</link>
		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way, it really wasn&#039;t so long ago that the concept of fractional reserve banking would have garnered the response &lt;em&gt;&quot;You&#039;d go straight to jail, and deservedly so!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way, it really wasn&#8217;t so long ago that the concept of fractional reserve banking would have garnered the response <em>&#8220;You&#8217;d go straight to jail, and deservedly so!&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/raiding-the-lockbox-the-hypocrisy-of-obamas-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-1761110</link>
		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, I was told &quot;Bush&#039;s stimulus&quot; failed! Not enough of the money was wasted on frivolous consumption and some of the rubes even had the gall to use it against personal debt. Very unpatriotic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, I was told &#8220;Bush&#8217;s stimulus&#8221; failed! Not enough of the money was wasted on frivolous consumption and some of the rubes even had the gall to use it against personal debt. Very unpatriotic!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for all of the liberals who roundly condemned the Bush deficits to stick their necks out and declare that the much bigger Obama deficits are also bad.

And before our local moonbats can ask.  Yes, the conservatives also condemned the Bush deficits.  Those deficits are a big reason why they did not support the Republicans in 2006 and 2008, resulting in big Republican losses in both years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting for all of the liberals who roundly condemned the Bush deficits to stick their necks out and declare that the much bigger Obama deficits are also bad.</p>
<p>And before our local moonbats can ask.  Yes, the conservatives also condemned the Bush deficits.  Those deficits are a big reason why they did not support the Republicans in 2006 and 2008, resulting in big Republican losses in both years.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee while we are writing checks, lets just fund the whole country for 5 years at 50k a year?  Its all fake money right?

Tom Shipley:  Giving people private accounts *lessens* the needs of Social Security.  Current SS monies accrue NO interest at all, while SS expenditures are rising constantly.

Calling private accounts a &quot;cost&quot; is Orwellian doublespeak.  Letting me keep and control my money doesn&#039;t cost anyone anything, unless you are a rabid Socialist who assumes the money belongs to the Feds in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee while we are writing checks, lets just fund the whole country for 5 years at 50k a year?  Its all fake money right?</p>
<p>Tom Shipley:  Giving people private accounts *lessens* the needs of Social Security.  Current SS monies accrue NO interest at all, while SS expenditures are rising constantly.</p>
<p>Calling private accounts a &#8220;cost&#8221; is Orwellian doublespeak.  Letting me keep and control my money doesn&#8217;t cost anyone anything, unless you are a rabid Socialist who assumes the money belongs to the Feds in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you guys get so rich? The only rich folks I ever knew were in Amway. ;) The rest of us have to work for a living. Obama plans to take from all of us. He is an equal opportunity taker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you guys get so rich? The only rich folks I ever knew were in Amway. ;) The rest of us have to work for a living. Obama plans to take from all of us. He is an equal opportunity taker.</p>
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