Lesson not learned: SUV sales outpace sedans
posted at 1:47 pm on January 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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When gas prices skyrocketed on global demand for energy, Americans began looking for fuel-efficient bargains in new vehicle sales. Analysts predicted that the price shock would resonate with buyers even after the oil bubble popped and prices declined to reasonable levels. Apparently, the lesson didn’t last long:
It looks like the Highlander is in and the Prius is out — for now at least.
Trucks and sport utility vehicles will outsell cars for the first time since February, according to a December report by Edmunds.com, which tracks industry statistics.
“Despite all the public discussion of fuel efficiency, SUVs and trucks are the industry’s biggest sellers right now as a remarkable number of buyers seem to be compelled by three factors: great deals, low gas prices and winter weather,” said Michelle Krebs of AutoObserver.com, a division of Edmunds.com, in a prepared statement.
“It was this summer that customers were concerned about the gas mileage. It hasn’t been a topic of conversation lately,” said Dave Lawson, the general sales manager at Pomoco Chrysler Jeep Dodge in Newport News. The majority of Pomoco’s inventory is SUVs, and its best-selling models are minivans.
That may be good news in the short run for domestic automakers, which bet heavily against smaller models, but in the long run will provide another opportunity for price shocks to American consumers. Oil has dropped to levels not seen in years, but that’s not due to massive new amounts of petroleum reserves. The commodity trading has sharply declined due to a much lower demand caused by the global economic recession, and it’s not likely to last. When economies begin recovering, energy demand will increase, and we will almost certainly see a return to $3 per gallon gasoline within a year, two years at the outside — unless we massively increase American production and refining during that time.
Why do consumers gravitate towards the bigger, less efficient models? It’s not because Americans like to spend money on gasoline. Smaller, lighter models are less safe, which is one of the reasons people resisted the CAFE standards increase that Democrats pushed through Congress last session. Winters, especially hard winters like we are experiencing now, tend to amplify those concerns. An SUV is a lot more likely to survive a big impact than a Prius, which makes it a better investment, even without considering the safety of those inside the car.
Even with that, though, one would have thought that consumers would have remembered the pain at the pump this summer and begun moving away from the SUV models in favor of more efficient cars. They may prefer the bigger cars now, but they may have to drive less later as a result.
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I got my wife a lexus suv for christmas. She’s been wanting one. Gets 20 miles a gallon. Not much worse than my Sedan. What’s the biggie?
Consumer choice and capitalism is a great thing.
lorien1973 on January 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Some of us live in areas where we have to have an SUV to get anywhere. I have a foot of snow in my driveway. Prolly wouldn’t make it in a Prius.
AlanC on January 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I have been checking the deals and considering one myself.
Probably not an SUV, I like the pick ups more.
Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Lorien.. can I have a f250?
upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
But will congress learn! DRILL NOW!
grapeknutz on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Maybe this reflects the buy one get one free deals.
danking70 on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Is a SUV a lot more likely to survive a big impact with another SUV than a Prius is with another Prius?
MB4 on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Sorry, couldn’t resist. Won’t happen during Obamanation.
My “new to me” Durango was a HUGE help in Oregon’s recent 40 year snow storm. And we averaged 20.3 miles per gallon driving to Fresno and back with a HEMI V8.
PastorJon on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I just got back from skiing in Red River, NM….
Most popular vehicles – Chevy Tahoe & Suburban.
izoneguy on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
No doubt this news will be followed by cries from the permanently ticked-off Left that Detroit continues to force cars on us that are wasteful gashogs.
The thought that people buy SUV’s of their own volition and choice just doesn’t register with them. It HAS to be the fault of big business. It just has to be!
ExUrbanKevin on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
If they drive less later then won’t it all even out?
changer1701 on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Americans buy big vehicles because they are Americans and want to.
The only problem is that these same people will be pissin and moanin when the gas prices go back up, but that’s to be expected anyway.
I drive an extremely fuel efficient car and I still don’t like paying over $4 bucks for a gallon of gas.
catmman on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I bought my father a new Ford Escape for his 80th birthday a couple of weeks ago. Once he got over the shock of it, he was delighted… he’s already reporting excellent mileage.
Even my 8 cylinder 4Runner gets good mileage… this is America and I’ll drive whatever I want.
D2Boston on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I have a monster- Lincoln Navigator…gas mileage is awful, but would i buy one again? You bet! I have 2 small kids, both must sit in car seats which are the width of a 200 lb. man’s a$$. I carpool 30 mins to and from school everyday, so I need space for 2 more kids and I need the totally flat cargo space in the rear to deliver the large wedding cakes and specialty cakes.
First the politicians try to push us into carpooling. Then they decide cars that hold more than 2 people are ruining the environment…what gives?
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I think I’m already buying one with the bailout. So yours went to someone else. Sorry :(
lorien1973 on January 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM
No need for moralizing Ed.
If people want to purchase an SUV, that is not evidence of a moral failing. People are well aware of the past, current and potential future price of gasoline, and they can very well make a determination of what vehicle and mileage fit their needs and budget.
Clark1 on January 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM
grapeknutz on January 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM
That’s the better question, I think.
If Congress went after the resources we have, price would be less of an issue down the road…
catmman on January 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM
You know………
I was watching a commercial for trucks the other day, and a football game kept getting in the way………………
Seven Percent Solution on January 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM
A big part of the reason is because of the deals that can be found on SUVs and Pickups now. It isn’t just the gas that is cheap but the vehicles too.
Queasy on January 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Why do they hate the panet!? Do they want to drown us all in a global iceberg flood!?!? The Goracle said it was so!!
Grafted on January 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM
The high here in Florida in 79 degrees.
Right_of_Attila on January 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
The often-overlooked answer is “space.” We like our elbow room.
It’s why we live in larger homes than a few decades ago, as well as why we drive larger vehicles. More breathing room, and slightly more gas $? If we can afford it, we choose the space.
As we have every right to.
cs89 on January 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
I’m buying a 2009 Piaggio BV 250 scooter. And no, it’s not to save the world from GLOOOOBALLL WARMINGGGGG. I live 5 miles from where I work and I would love to take a drive down to Gettysburg (the Mrs. and I go there at least 3 times a year).
DethMetalCookieMonst on January 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Yeah but it was 70 over the weekend. Sweater weather is a killer!
lorien1973 on January 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
I have been thinking of buying another Ford Truck… but I am outdoorsey and with hunting and fishing.. a truck comes in VERY handy.
My Mom is also looking into a truck and since she loves her Bronco, she is thinking about a F-150 this time.
We have been buying Ford’s for years and they are offering GOOD discounts. But we also use them till they fall apart. Her Bronco is on it’s last wheel… 13 yrs old and 60K miles.. but hit and the tranny is about to go out. She has a lead foot.
I am sticking with Ford for the time being.
upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
My wife inherited an 06 Highlander, which gets a hell of a lot better mileage than her 02 Bravada. Since dealers are getting desperate, I’m thinking of getting rid of my sedan for a truck. I’m not sure if my car will pull a bass boat and would look rather silly in the process.
Lay-Z on January 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM
You’ll have less. And you’ll like it!
/Washington leadership.
lorien1973 on January 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Ahhh GEEZ! No more comments of whoa for you!
upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Living in Texas, I’ve wondered why there are so many pickup trucks around the Houston area.
I mean, in smaller towns, I can understand. But in the city.
And why do I still see the Ford Excursion, which get at best 10 MPG, on the road?
madmonkphotog on January 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Doesn’t seem like much of a mystery to me. You mention several different factors for the pro-SUV position (while the article mentions great deals as well) and one factor (gas prices) in the anti-SUV position, and then you complain because people are looking at the pro/con balance and making their decision based on that?
Even with huge increases in average gas mileage between 1975 and 1990, American oil consumption increased. Conservation is not an energy policy. Even if everyone in America were to start driving a Prius or some other econo-box, we would still be in basically the same position relative to the oil cartel if nothing else changes.
thirteen28 on January 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Something else is up. The price of rock salt for roads, and I haven’t been able to determine why. When the roads are caked in ice and salt, do you want to be driving a low-to-the-ground two-wheel-drive Prius or a 4×4 raised Highlander?
MadisonConservative on January 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Good to see ‘ya, kiddo.
The Enviromental Police are a Politcal Force that are trying to protect their phoney-baloney jobs by telling us what we can and can not drive. This is America. We will buy and drive what we want to. The market will dictate our tastes to a certain degree, but our individual needs will drive our decisions.
kingsjester on January 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Just picked up a 2009 Accord below invoice and with 1.9% APR. Paid almost exactly the same $$ as when I bought the now-7-year-old Accord it replaced.
I hear you can get a new Impala for $13K!
jay12 on January 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM
My sister recently traded her mini-van in on a Prius to save the planet.
She has 4 kids, so, now, every time the entire family goes some where, they take two cars.
Brilliant.
Better buy a big one now. Soon they will be outlawed once Obama requires everyone to buy a new car to save the big three.
cntrlfrk on January 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Sorry I’ve been gone so long…lots of christmas cakes to deliver in my trusty SUV!…good to see you again, my friend!
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM
“Consumer choice and capitalism is a great thing.”
My 2008 Jeep Commander with Hemi agrees. Only problem is, when I buy my next gas guzzler, it won’t be an American car. Suck it Detroit.
rayvet on January 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM
One thing that is different now than when I was young is child restraint laws. Most states require at least a booster seat for children younger than the age of five. If you have more than two young children, having an SUV or crossover with three rows of seats is almost an necessity.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM
The economics of the gas savings over the life of most small cars don’t make much sense to the average buyer–especially in the case of a Prius. Simply driving a little less makes up all the loss. Meanwhile you get to drive the vehicle you want.
Most folks also know that the energy market is a contrived market to begin with. If we wanted energy dependence it would have been done years ago.
patrick neid on January 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM
First the politicians try to push us into carpooling. Then they decide cars that hold more than 2 people are ruining the environment…what gives?
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM
But that is one of the ultimate goals you see – making sure you, nor anyone else HAS more than one or two kids.
When the wacko-warmingists get their population controls in place you be perfectly happy with your smaller car…
catmman on January 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM
People who have winter conditions who drive front wheel drive vehicles and then wonder how they can get out of 1 foot high snows and get high centered crack me up.
upinak on January 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM
As the old saying goes, “those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.”
Americans have had several wake up calls in the past 30 years when it comes to how dependant we are on foreign oil from countries that hate us and use all that money to foment hatred for the west in their Jihadi schools, etc. yet we never learn!
Back in the oil embargo of the 70’s we should have read the writing on the wall and invested heavily on developing our own oil and refining capabilities as well as heavily invest in the research and development of alternative energy sources and improving the efficient use of the energy we have.
Instead here we are 30 years later and we still haven’t learned our lesson and all the while the countries that hate us are using our money against us, this is just absurd in my book. We need to do all of the following now; drill here, drill now, build new refineries to process the new oil reserves we find, we need to pour billions of dollars into research and development of new energy sources as well as R&D for energy efficiency so we can tell the Middle East and Venezeulan azzholes that hate us to take a long hike off a short pier and watch as they collapse economically and fall into chaos because their only major source of income is from their oil!
We needed to start doing this decades ago, but it’s not too late if we get serious now, doing so would do far more damage to hostile governments and regimes than our military could do as these azzholes that hate us wouldn’t have the means to feed their people let alone wage jihad and/or war against us!
Just my 2 cents….
Liberty or Death on January 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM
To funny… how old are the kids? “They” recommend that kids under 5 feet tall stay in a car seat….insane! I am only 5 feet tall…before you know it, I will have to sit in one of those traps, for my own good.
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Unless you would prefer a mini-van, which don’t get much better milage.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 6, 2009 at 2:06 PM
So true… but what about the non-offspring passengers that the states want you to schlep around, hence the carpool lanes,etc.?
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I drive an Expedition and will continue to drive SUV’s.. let’s see you get your little electric car through my construction sites… won’t happen… you’ll be begging me in my SUV to pull you out.
you people understand that everything around you is made from petroleum right? everything… your food wrappings, your paint, your plastics… everything has petroleum in it…
you also understand that it’s not man made right? it’s natural? comes from the earth? it is the very essence of life… and of course you understand it’s still being made in our earth today? yes, new oil is being made inside our earth today.
Kaptain Amerika on January 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM
A wife, two kids (both with car seats) and luggage for the four of us. Does that fit in a Prius? Seriously, I would love to know the likelihood of all of us and our luggage fitting in the Prius so we can take a trip. Anyone in this situation make it work?
My guess is, it doesn’t, which is why we own an SUV. And, should gas rise again, we’d get rid of the second car (a sedan) before we change from the SUV to a Prius.
LastRick on January 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Because that’s what makes us Americans? Otherwise, how would we be distinguished from the French, English, or Germans (other than personal hygiene)?
I, for one, continued to drive my choice of vehicle and pay the price of fuel. I would think the vast majority of folks did the same. I own a 2002 Ford Sport Trac (V6). It averages ~20 mpg. I didn’t buy it because I could afford the price of fuel at that time. I bought it because it had the options and features I wanted to purchase. The price of gas has no effect on those options and features.
And I don’t think the consumer is gravitating towards the gas guzzlers. I think what you mean is they are not moving away from them.
BobMbx on January 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
I can’t afford a new car, but I’m thinking about adding a coal-burning heater just to piss off the enviro-Nazis. That’s worth something.
Bugler on January 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Our next vehicle will be a 4wheel drive truck or SUV.
Global warming dumped a lot of snow and ice on us this year and we need something a little more agile in these conditions.
:)
Conservative_SAHM on January 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM
+1
And I used to think that it was just the left leaning political websites that told people how they should and should not spend their money. What a same. For a conservative, it shouldn’t matter what other people do in a free country.
wise_man on January 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Sssshhh …. you’ll upset the applecart(el).
thirteen28 on January 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM
I used to have two cars. A old Volvo 240 Wagon, which was the very pinnacle of leather-elbowed tweedy liberalism, and a Ford Escape, which was, of course, an eeeeevil SUV. When I drove the 19 MPG Volvo to work, I was assumed to be generally virtuous and environmentally aware, even though the thing barely passed it’s smog test each year. When I drove the 23 mpg Ford to work, my eco-greenie co-workers would sneer at me and ask me why I drove such a gas-hog.
gridlock2 on January 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM
I’m seriously considering it. We’re getting more ice storms every year. My little Honda gets zero traction on ice and snow, and they don’t plow the roads here, like they did in MN.
I need something heavier, and whether it’s a big sedan or an SUV, I’m definitely not going to get 30mpg anymore. So I’m more likely to worry about the purchase price than ±5mpg.
Tanya on January 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Ditto.
thirteen28 on January 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Buy what you want. But there are consequences for your decision…don’t be bit<hin and moaning when market forces drive the price of gas up to $4+ per gallon….
Theres a certain communal effect that comes with Capitalism, however…when Im pumping gas into my G35 and some bozo in a 6mpg Canyonero fills er up next to me…how long before markets make his decisions start to affect my bottom line???
And, yes we can start to drill…but methinks that that will only start to quench our thirst for Oil and we will still be buying from the Venezuelas and the Irans…until NOBODY HAS ANY. Then what???
CapitalistPig on January 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM
You give people too much credit. They just elected the very people who blocked a reform of the subprime industry to fix the crisis sparked by the subprime industry. And blamed the people who called for reform for not reforming the system.
amerpundit on January 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM
umm… I think SUVs hold more people.
faraway on January 6, 2009 at 2:13 PM
By the way, are sales of mini-SUVs counted amongst those numbers, like the Honda CRV and Toyota Rav 4? I’m on my second Suzuki Sidekick (and can’t wait to upgrade because their last model was a hunk of junk), and even things like the Subaru Outback get 20-30MPG, yet have most of the features of the full-size SUVs. They also cost a good deal less, but run like champs.
MadisonConservative on January 6, 2009 at 2:13 PM
It is, that’s true. Did you pay in full at the dealership? Was this vehicle purchased to replace a vehicle that could otherwise not be used due to mechanical breakdown?
Capitalism is great, as is consumer choice. However, in order for capitalism to work properly, the notion of responsibility plays an important role.
Quick question. Lexus vehicles, being a luxury brand and all probably have some nice plush leather, warmed seats, and a nice posh little interior. That being said, I can’t imagine that you’d want to tow your boat with it, take it to a hunting site, carry sporting goods, camping goods, or a dog. That being said, why would you call said vehicle an “SUV”. I would think that your wife’s new debtmobile lacks the “utility” portion of that?
I’m all for your right to choose what car, truck, or S
Uyou want to drive, but buying a foreign luxury vehicle in a recession?That isn’t consumer choice or capitalism, it’s retardation.
leetpriest on January 6, 2009 at 2:13 PM
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Ahhh, well then everyone’s good friend and protector Nanny State will step in and begin regulating what you can schlep your (and other) crumb crunchers around too.
Ball games? No, unless the are “handy capable and all inclusive”.
School events? Of course there won’t be any need for Chirstmas pageants/programs anymmore, but hauling them to that Ramadan evening feast celebration will be perfectly acceptable.
And you ewon’t have to worry about taking them shopping for anything like food or whatever. The State will make sure the bread lines and local distribution center lines are “green” and eco-friendly.
See? Just leave it all up the the Goracle and the Nanny State. All will be well…
catmman on January 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM
My six cylinder Mustang gets the same advertised city milage of the Honda Fit. I doubt they are the same for highway but then I drive mostly in town. I saw a huge Expedition with a bumper sticker, Think Green, Vote Blue. Very funny. Washington is going to try to tell us where to live next.
Cindy Munford on January 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM
It’s up to Congress to learn its lesson and and let us drill – then we wouldn’t even need to have this discussion, and we could all choose what vehicles meet our needs and budgets.
Ideally we’d all be rich as Croesus and could have both a teeny weeny car to use in good weather and/or when the kids and their gear aren’t in tow, and a larger but very expensive fuel efficient SUV for family use.
When I get my bailout I’ll follow the ideal.
Buy Danish on January 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Because we’re ‘effin Americans, nuff said!!!
omnipotent on January 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Canyoneros for everyone!!
CapitalistPig on January 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM
We also do it because congress eliminated decent cars with CAFE. I just bought an Expedition a couple of weeks ago. Tell me how to take a family that includes two dogs on several hundred mile trips a year in a 30 mpg sedan? I want a truck chassis that rides high, demolishes any vehicle that hits it, and will last for ten years. By definition, that is a SUV.
Vashta.Nerada on January 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM
CapitalistPig on January 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Awesome!
catmman on January 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I’m beginning to think Ed is a closet enviro liberal. :)
faraway on January 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I have smallish vehicles that a cheap to operate, but I don’t care if others want to drive Nimitz Class SUVs.
forest on January 6, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Coal is dirty (I mean it makes your hands and clothes black). All you need to do is cut your grass (with the big 25Hp rider) blow the leaves and cuttings with your 2-stroke leaf blower, then fire up the charcoal briquet grill (use copious amounts of starter fluid). An honest days work, a nice dinner, and piss off greeniers all at the same time.
I love this country.
BobMbx on January 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Perhaps the buyers can actually do the math to calculate the total cost over the life of the vehicle.
tmitsss on January 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM
My Prius pops a wheelie when I hook up my 2 place snowmobile trailer.
jlemieu1 on January 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Get out of my garage,
ObamaEd!omnipotent on January 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM
LMFAO!
Come to Alaska.. you will see all KINDS of things you wouldn’t usually see. Lexus and Eldorado’s pulling… jet skis, ATV’s and other Items. The funniest thing I saw was a guy pulling a 42 ft boat for charter fishing (I am not a boat person, don’t ask me what it was) with a Lexus. He blew the tranny!
upinak on January 6, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Obama says trillion dollar deficits as long as he’s King
faraway on January 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Maybe MKH will make a “Ed on my shoulder” video.
wise_man on January 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Ed, I think you’re too binary on this.
They have hybrid SUVs now that get 30+ MPG.
Big and Fuel Efficient are no longer mutually exclusive vehicle elements.
There comes a point where the extra MPG one gets from a small car becomes irrelevant. A car which gets 40 MPG compared to an SUV with 30 MPG is only 33% more efficient. Whereas before a car that gets 30 MPG compared to an SUV with 20 MPG is 50% more efficient.
As SUVs become as efficient as their smaller counterparts, the only difference that begins to matter is price point. Price point is largely determinded by variable cost/unit. Once efficiency becomes a nonessential consideration, capacity, safety, and comfort become the primary issues. Most of those issues favor larger vehicles.
BKennedy on January 6, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I drive a minivan because I have 3 children. When they were all in car seats, they wouldn’t fit three across in a smaller car. Now that one of them is not required to sit in a booster seat, we could probably squish them in, but they wouldn’t be happy about it. Car seats take up an incredible amount of space. Besides, more space between kids = a happier mom! My next car will be an SUV, though, because my minivan will either carry people OR cargo, but it doesn’t carry both very well. If we need to carry luggage or equipment somewhere, we are out of luck.
I think one reason you see people commute to work in pick up trucks is because on the weekends they are pulling boats or trailers and you can’t do that in anything smaller than a truck or SUV.
This is a free country. If I choose to pay for an SUV and the gas that goes into it because that is what fits the needs of my lifestyle and family, then that’s my business. The environuts should drive whatever car makes them happy.
TX Mom on January 6, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Ummm…Do you live next door to him, or what? How do you know he went into debt for the lexus? And he might not be in a recession, personally. You could make a case about foreign cars, I suppose, but that’s a hard argument to make these days.
samuelrylander on January 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM
They also push alternative energy than fight running the power lines from wind farms over “environmental concerns.” Liberalism isn’t meant to make sense, just provide income to those that work at the activist groups, even if the causes are trumped up to raise the money.
PastorJon on January 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM
For the mountains, for places getting a foot osf snow on a regular basis, having one SUV makes some sense. For the 80% of the rest of us, it is short-sighted foolishness. Yeas, we have a choice and continuing to make stupid choices like this one for the testosterone content is what is leading to our decline.
SUVs safer; yes, in a collision. I can’t tell you how many collisions I’ve seen that a smaller, more nimble vehicle could have avoided. Nor the massive increase in vehicular rollovers in SUVs over regular vehicles. Nor Pickups wrecked in slippery conditions over regular vehicles. And don’t get me started on the silliness of the McMansions of the day (an argument my wife doesn’t follow either).
The continued blindness to common sense and any vision past the here and now, coupled with the collapse of the strong family unit, will be written as the epitaph of this country.
michaelo on January 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I drive a liberal Volvo…very, very safe, great car…plus I drive people nuts when I pull into Whole Foods with my Bush/Cheney/McCain/Palin-pro life motherhood stickers and christian fish on my car. Anomaly.
Mommypundit on January 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Better than buying a car built using begged-for taxpayer dollars.
MadisonConservative on January 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM
CAFE has eliminated the body on frame car. The only remaining BOF is the Crown Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis. The CV is available to fleets (police, taxi and limo services) only, as they have the stroke to keep the cars in production. The fleets like them because they last a long time and are inexpensive for maintenance. CAFE has also elimninated the station wagon. Light trucks have been exempt from CAFE standards, and are built body on frame. Ergo, people buy SUVs and pickups. I’m sure congress will eliminate this loophole that allows people to buy a long lasting, dependable vehicle that meets their needs.
Vashta.Nerada on January 6, 2009 at 2:32 PM
That’s why I got rid of my Tahoe and bought a Ford. My folks bought one in December, too.
Vashta.Nerada on January 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Well said, MichaelO
For those of you foolish enough to truck down the highway in your 65 ton SUV –by yourself—heres a better version of the Canyonero…its with Spanish subtitles..but you get the idea..
CapitalistPig on January 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM
This is America! We buy what we want to buy! Green Nazi’s with fake Global Warming scams do not decide for us. There is also plenty of oil if we would just drill. Again, we live in a free country. For those of you who wish to be bullied by the left cower in your green machines. As for the rest of us we will buy whatever the hell we please! It’s OUR money!!!!
sabbott on January 6, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Sometimes a sedan just won’t do the job. I live in the country beyond any garbage truck route, so I have to take my garbage to the land fill. I also have to have a way to get my tractor to shop for repairs as I have over 2 acres of grass to mow. I traded in my 10 year old pickup during the time of high gas prices for a small SUV and a utility trailer. It meets my requirements for a vehicle and I still get 24 mpg. Don’t think a Prius could handle the job.
Oleta on January 6, 2009 at 2:36 PM
If gas was at or under $2 a gallon for 20 years and then suddenly it spikes, to $3 and then $4 for a year and a half, then returns to the sub $2 range, is it rational to believe that the true cost of gas is $2 or $4?
Markets work because consumers act in their own self interest. Don’t second guess them.
eaglephin on January 6, 2009 at 2:37 PM
My wife and I know an emergency room anesthesiologist, and he ONLY buys large 4wd trucks for himself. He says this is because he has seen, by an order of magnitude, the higher casualty rate for cars and especially small cars vs trucks in the case of accident victims.
Food for thought.
worlok on January 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM
What in the H.ll is going on here? We supposedly have a freedom in this country to drive what we want to drive. Are the boobs in Washington D.C. driving a Ford Focus or Prius? No they have Suburbans and big vehicles – for safety don’t cha know? Hipocrits. This Country is going down the tubes with articles like this. Nanny State – tell you what you can eat, what you can drive, blah blah blah. We need to take this Country back before it’s too late.
suzyk on January 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM
My husband USED to feel the same way. But I finally convinced him that assumptions make an A$$ out of U and ME. Maybe the guy in the pick up is going to pick up a load of building material…for his JOB!
People may look at me and think I am driving my tank “Alone”, but I have a few hundred dollars worth of cakes I am delivering….. don’t assume.
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM
I have a Toyota Avalon (’06), which is one of the largest sedans on the road. Gets 30+ MPG on the highway, and not just EPA rating but when I drive it.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on January 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Mmm. The tears of jealousy are delicious.
She calls it her present. I call it my business tax write-off.
So chill out. Will ya?
lorien1973 on January 6, 2009 at 2:40 PM
They may prefer the bigger cars now, but they may have to drive less later as a result.
that’s ok. Once the dems start taxing per mile none of us will be driving. FL vacation spot? Not likely when you have to pay 1-5cents per mile in Tax. The dems will destroy the tourism industry thruout the country. Or well.
unseen on January 6, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Funny…those screaming “this is America, we buy what we want” were bawling like children just a few months ago when Uncle Sam said no to giving you all more candy …er oil. Its more than radical pinko-commy environmentalists who think its foolish to keep drilling ourselves to oblivion…Thats just the radical face of the conservationist movement and their goal isnt conservaticm as much as it’s way by which they push their socialist agenda.
Its people like me, Conservatives to the core, who believe that …like Bill O’reilly…isn’t the world just a bit better with less junk in the air? Who can disdagree with that?
And again, why should I have to keep subsidizing people chugging alonng at 6MPG in their Hummers and Excursions???
CapitalistPig on January 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I meant my comment for you..not catman…sorry…
beththebaker on January 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM
All of my International Harvesters get 11 mpg, uphill or downhill. They are all solar-powered (from a sun long ago). I sit up straight and peer over the heads of all other mere mortals while driving them, unlike poking-up through the sunroof and looking through the tint strip while trying to fit into my wife’s Accordian. Gas prices around $6.00 per gallon would start to annoy me, but would still be a good buy considering the convenience angle. All dinosaur blood belongs to me, “Pious” owners.
trl on January 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM
At the risk of getting jumped on for expressing a minority viewpoint, I tend to agree with some of the points you both made.
I remember the gas lines from the Carter era, so it would take a lot for me to buy a vehicle that was much less fuel efficient (either owing to its weight or the size of its engine) than I needed to get around. My concern is less about the price of gas than it is about the potential for another round of gas shortages. Obviously, that’s my choice and other people make other choices. Fine.
But I disagree that the government does not have a say in this. Driving is a privilege and the government determines who has that privilege and what vehicles are “street legal” and allowed to drive on our roads. There’s no denying that when a large SUV (I am excluding the SUVs built on car chassis like the RAV4) hits a compact vehicle, the car loses. Whether engineers can design a remedy to that solution is not clear to me, but the problem exists.
My observation is that people (equivalent in age, gender, and socioeconomic background judging from the costs of their vehicles) in larger vehicles feel safer and drive less defensively than their counterparts in smaller vehicles. An Expedition doesn’t handle like a small car, nor does it park like one, although many times their drivers forget this. I would feel safer if large SUV and large truck drivers were required to pass a driving test tailored to their vehicles.
There are several smaller cars that I decided against buying because I did not feel I would be able to safely share the road with large SUVs and large trucks. So in a sense, my freedom choice was limited by other peoples’ choices. The government needs to protect my rights, too.
Y-not on January 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM
In December I stopped for a railroad crossing bar and was rear-ended by a dump truck hauling 70,000 lbs of asphalt. The impact was significant, but I suffered no injuries. The crash scared my young daughter, who was strapped into her booster seat in the bucket seat behind mine, but she too came through unscathed. My Suburban had considerable rear damage ($2,500 worth), but I drove away from the scene. In contrast, the dump truck’s heavy steel bumper was bent inward to such an extent he had to call a wrecker.
If I had been in my wife’s Japanese sedan instead of my Suburban, my daughter would have been seriously injured if not killed. And I would almost certainly have been injured as well. Unless the libs are able to take all dump trucks and eighteen wheelers off the road, I will continue driving large vehicles, regardless of the cost of gas. Screw CONgress and the enviro-nazi’s. We’ll never know how many people have been killed (and will be in the future) due to the unintended consequences of their ideas and actions.
flyfisher on January 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM
It’s easier to move all of your belongings and your loved ones in SUVs.
baldilocks on January 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM
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