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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chavez bails out Kennedy, continues free oil program</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chavez bails out Kennedy, continues free oil program</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Kennedy publicly pleaded with Hugo Chavez to rescue his political career, Chavez reversed himself and pledged to continue his deliveries of heating oil to poor Americans while middle-class [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hicsuget</title>
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		<dc:creator>hicsuget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010703939.html?hpid=sec-business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Citgo to Continue U.S. Heating Aid After All&lt;/strong&gt;
Venezuelan-owned Citgo Petroleum, which had earlier indicated it might end a home heating oil assistance program for low-income Americans, yesterday said it had decided to continue the program.

Citgo chief executive Alejandro Granado cited &quot;the current global financial crisis and its impact on the oil industry in general&quot; as reasons for the renewing the assistance.

Before Christmas, Citgo, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan state oil company, had told the nonprofit group Citizens Energy, which administers the program, that the effort was &quot;suspended until further notice.&quot; At the time, Citgo said that it was reevaluating its social programs because of falling oil prices.

The program provided assistance to 200,000 households in 23 states last year.

&quot;It is just an immediate PR remedy for a PR goof,&quot; said Pedro Burelli, a former director of the Venezuelan state oil company.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010703939.html?hpid=sec-business" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Citgo to Continue U.S. Heating Aid After All</strong><br />
Venezuelan-owned Citgo Petroleum, which had earlier indicated it might end a home heating oil assistance program for low-income Americans, yesterday said it had decided to continue the program.</p>
<p>Citgo chief executive Alejandro Granado cited &#8220;the current global financial crisis and its impact on the oil industry in general&#8221; as reasons for the renewing the assistance.</p>
<p>Before Christmas, Citgo, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan state oil company, had told the nonprofit group Citizens Energy, which administers the program, that the effort was &#8220;suspended until further notice.&#8221; At the time, Citgo said that it was reevaluating its social programs because of falling oil prices.</p>
<p>The program provided assistance to 200,000 households in 23 states last year.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is just an immediate PR remedy for a PR goof,&#8221; said Pedro Burelli, a former director of the Venezuelan state oil company.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Oil and Gas Prices Make No Sense &#171; Cynical Synapse</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1764339</link>
		<dc:creator>Oil and Gas Prices Make No Sense &#171; Cynical Synapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] increased. Today, they jumped from $1.779 in Lansing to $1.999. What&#8217;s different today? Hugo Chavez said no more free heating oil. While I&#8217;m saddened by the additional strain on those truly in need, I take solace in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] increased. Today, they jumped from $1.779 in Lansing to $1.999. What&#8217;s different today? Hugo Chavez said no more free heating oil. While I&#8217;m saddened by the additional strain on those truly in need, I take solace in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to support Kennedy&#039;s attempt to get more free oil from Chavez because as Sun Tzu said in &quot;The Art of War&quot;

&quot;Thus the wise general looks to the enemy for food.
One bushel of enemy food equals twenty bushels of mine.
One bale of fodder equals twenty bales of mine.&quot;

If he is giving us oil then we can put more of ours to better uses. We get stronger, he gets weaker. Ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to support Kennedy&#8217;s attempt to get more free oil from Chavez because as Sun Tzu said in &#8220;The Art of War&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Thus the wise general looks to the enemy for food.<br />
One bushel of enemy food equals twenty bushels of mine.<br />
One bale of fodder equals twenty bales of mine.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he is giving us oil then we can put more of ours to better uses. We get stronger, he gets weaker. Ideal.</p>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1764228</link>
		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I got the story from my grandparents who knew his buyers.

Vashta.Nerada on January 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well then I would go with the eyewitness accout of your grandparents then. There can be no better source than someone who was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I got the story from my grandparents who knew his buyers.</p>
<p>Vashta.Nerada on January 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM</p>
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<p>Well then I would go with the eyewitness accout of your grandparents then. There can be no better source than someone who was there.</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So no He didn’t get rich from bootlegging. It’s an old wivestale.

kanda on January 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I got the story from my grandparents who knew his buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So no He didn’t get rich from bootlegging. It’s an old wivestale.</p>
<p>kanda on January 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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<p>I got the story from my grandparents who knew his buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture they use is the first time I&#039;ve seen Yugo smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture they use is the first time I&#8217;ve seen Yugo smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark30339</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark30339</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The better story is Chavez buddy Putin who cut off all gas to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090106/ts_nm/us_russia_ukraine_gas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ukraine pipeline&lt;/a&gt;.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Russia accused its former Soviet neighbor of stealing about 15 percent the gas it ships across Ukraine to European states.

&quot;Ukraine has stolen gas not from Russia, but from consumers who have bought the product and paid for it,&quot; Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said in televised remarks late on Tuesday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Eastern Europe thanks you Vlad, far better for them to freeze to death than be allegedly robbed an extra 15% by Ukraine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The better story is Chavez buddy Putin who cut off all gas to the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090106/ts_nm/us_russia_ukraine_gas" rel="nofollow">Ukraine pipeline</a>.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Russia accused its former Soviet neighbor of stealing about 15 percent the gas it ships across Ukraine to European states.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ukraine has stolen gas not from Russia, but from consumers who have bought the product and paid for it,&#8221; Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said in televised remarks late on Tuesday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Eastern Europe thanks you Vlad, far better for them to freeze to death than be allegedly robbed an extra 15% by Ukraine.</p>
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		<title>By: tgillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>tgillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Venezuela is halting the program at least temporarily because the sharp drop in oil prices is forcing the country to reduce government spending.....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Didn&#039;t he get the memo?  The answer is to INCREASE spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Venezuela is halting the program at least temporarily because the sharp drop in oil prices is forcing the country to reduce government spending&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn&#8217;t he get the memo?  The answer is to INCREASE spending.</p>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Yes, it is true.
2. You’re kidding right? He supplied the rich and famous, then became one.

Vashta.Nerada on January 7, 2009 at 10:03 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

According to Straightdope.com

Joseph P. Kennedy was the ambitious son of a prosperous Boston saloon keeper and ward boss. He married the mayor&#039;s daughter, went to Harvard, and generally made the most of his ample connections and talent. He ran a bank (admittedly two-bit) at 25, and was number-two man at a shipyard with more than 2,000 workers during World War I. At 30 he became a stockbroker and made a fortune through insider trading and stock manipulation. He was a master of the stock pool, a then-legal stunt in which a few traders conspired to inflate a stock&#039;s price, selling out just before the bubble burst. 

&lt;em&gt;all it say about booze is&lt;/em&gt;

Kennedy may also have traded in illegal booze, although the evidence is circumstantial. His father had been in the liquor business before Prohibition, and Joe himself got into it (publicly, that is) immediately after repeal. Some believe the family business simply went underground during the dry years. He may have been strictly a nickle-and-dimer; Harvard classmates say he supplied the illicit booze for alumni events. 

Its a far cry for circumstantial evidency you yes he was as you claim. I think it is untrue. He made millions on other less risky things while they were still legal. Doing bootlegging while there was real money to be made leagally doesn&#039;t fit him.

&lt;em&gt;straightdope goes on to say&lt;/em&gt;

Whatever the truth of the matter, Kennedy&#039;s real strength wasn&#039;t his alleged criminal ties but his business smarts, notably an exquisite sense of timing. In the mid-1920s he became a movie mogul (taking time out for a celebrated dalliance with Gloria Swanson), then organized a merger and sold out just when the industry was consolidating, clearing five to six million dollars all told. He pulled out of stocks early in 1929 and sold short following the crash, actually making money while others got creamed. Just before Prohibition was repealed he lined up several lucrative liquor-importing deals. 

By the 1930s Kennedy was rich, but he didn&#039;t make serious money by modern standards until he got into real estate in a big way during World War II, raking in an estimated $100 million. In 1945 he made the deal that remains the centerpiece of the Kennedy fortune: for a measly $12.5 million he bought the Merchandise Mart in Chicago, a huge wholesale emporium that had cost $30 million to build. Within a few years the annual gross in rent exceeded the purchase price. In 1957 Fortune declared Kennedy one of the richest men in America, with assets of 200 to 400 million bucks. 

So no He didn&#039;t get rich from bootlegging. It&#039;s an old wivestale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1. Yes, it is true.<br />
2. You’re kidding right? He supplied the rich and famous, then became one.</p>
<p>Vashta.Nerada on January 7, 2009 at 10:03 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>According to Straightdope.com</p>
<p>Joseph P. Kennedy was the ambitious son of a prosperous Boston saloon keeper and ward boss. He married the mayor&#8217;s daughter, went to Harvard, and generally made the most of his ample connections and talent. He ran a bank (admittedly two-bit) at 25, and was number-two man at a shipyard with more than 2,000 workers during World War I. At 30 he became a stockbroker and made a fortune through insider trading and stock manipulation. He was a master of the stock pool, a then-legal stunt in which a few traders conspired to inflate a stock&#8217;s price, selling out just before the bubble burst. </p>
<p><em>all it say about booze is</em></p>
<p>Kennedy may also have traded in illegal booze, although the evidence is circumstantial. His father had been in the liquor business before Prohibition, and Joe himself got into it (publicly, that is) immediately after repeal. Some believe the family business simply went underground during the dry years. He may have been strictly a nickle-and-dimer; Harvard classmates say he supplied the illicit booze for alumni events. </p>
<p>Its a far cry for circumstantial evidency you yes he was as you claim. I think it is untrue. He made millions on other less risky things while they were still legal. Doing bootlegging while there was real money to be made leagally doesn&#8217;t fit him.</p>
<p><em>straightdope goes on to say</em></p>
<p>Whatever the truth of the matter, Kennedy&#8217;s real strength wasn&#8217;t his alleged criminal ties but his business smarts, notably an exquisite sense of timing. In the mid-1920s he became a movie mogul (taking time out for a celebrated dalliance with Gloria Swanson), then organized a merger and sold out just when the industry was consolidating, clearing five to six million dollars all told. He pulled out of stocks early in 1929 and sold short following the crash, actually making money while others got creamed. Just before Prohibition was repealed he lined up several lucrative liquor-importing deals. </p>
<p>By the 1930s Kennedy was rich, but he didn&#8217;t make serious money by modern standards until he got into real estate in a big way during World War II, raking in an estimated $100 million. In 1945 he made the deal that remains the centerpiece of the Kennedy fortune: for a measly $12.5 million he bought the Merchandise Mart in Chicago, a huge wholesale emporium that had cost $30 million to build. Within a few years the annual gross in rent exceeded the purchase price. In 1957 Fortune declared Kennedy one of the richest men in America, with assets of 200 to 400 million bucks. </p>
<p>So no He didn&#8217;t get rich from bootlegging. It&#8217;s an old wivestale.</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it true Joe Kennedy the Patriach was a bootlegger? How come he didn’t go to jail? 

kanda on January 7, 2009 at 8:19 AM
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1. Yes, it is true.
2. You&#039;re kidding right? He supplied the rich and famous, then became one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it true Joe Kennedy the Patriach was a bootlegger? How come he didn’t go to jail? </p>
<p>kanda on January 7, 2009 at 8:19 AM
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<p>1. Yes, it is true.<br />
2. You&#8217;re kidding right? He supplied the rich and famous, then became one.</p>
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		<title>By: Akzed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s headline:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Hugo Chavez cuts off free heating oil to the US&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Future headline?
&quot;The US cuts off free oxygen to Chavez&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s headline:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Hugo Chavez cuts off free heating oil to the US&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Future headline?<br />
&#8220;The US cuts off free oxygen to Chavez&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a blight the Kennedy family has been on this country and I&#039;m sorry to say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a blight the Kennedy family has been on this country and I&#8217;m sorry to say that.</p>
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		<title>By: kanda</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1762711</link>
		<dc:creator>kanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pelayo on January 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is it true Joe Kennedy the Patriach was a bootlegger? How come he didn&#039;t go to jail? I think it is an unproven accusation. He made his money honestly just like and other ambassador did. Jack and Joe Jr were war heroes. Bobby died in service to his country as a Senator. Teddy will soon follow. The remaining Kennedys now inherit their wealth so they are not crooks either. They are the original annointed ones. Remember before Obama we had the Kennedys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pelayo on January 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Is it true Joe Kennedy the Patriach was a bootlegger? How come he didn&#8217;t go to jail? I think it is an unproven accusation. He made his money honestly just like and other ambassador did. Jack and Joe Jr were war heroes. Bobby died in service to his country as a Senator. Teddy will soon follow. The remaining Kennedys now inherit their wealth so they are not crooks either. They are the original annointed ones. Remember before Obama we had the Kennedys.</p>
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		<title>By: Light. Sweet. Crude. &#124; Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night? **</title>
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		<dc:creator>Light. Sweet. Crude. &#124; Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night? **</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brought them in the past couple years) Hugo Chavez,and last year I said I would provide heating oil for free from my country to poor US citizens. I thought this would be a good way of pwning the corporate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pelayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Kennedys didn’t get to where they were at through socialism, after all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indirectly, yes. Ole Man Kennedy was a middling bank manager until the great socialist experiment called Prohibition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Kennedys didn’t get to where they were at through socialism, after all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indirectly, yes. Ole Man Kennedy was a middling bank manager until the great socialist experiment called Prohibition.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Kennedys, pony up and give some free oil to EVERYONE.

whoopee!

CHANGE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Kennedys, pony up and give some free oil to EVERYONE.</p>
<p>whoopee!</p>
<p>CHANGE!</p>
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		<title>By: Badger40</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1761254</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I suggest having enough cattle ‘die’ (yet mysteriously get sold for untaxed cash on the grey market) to offset the EPA theft against income theft. No net gain for the thieves in DC.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ahhh. Very interesting. If I didn&#039;t like my cows, perhaps. 
But then again, the state vet would probably quarantine us for anthrax or something &amp; buy us out at rock bottom govt. prices bcs of these deaths.
I tell you, if there were a &#039;grey&#039; market for them, I&#039;d get a better price there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I suggest having enough cattle ‘die’ (yet mysteriously get sold for untaxed cash on the grey market) to offset the EPA theft against income theft. No net gain for the thieves in DC.</p>
<p>LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahhh. Very interesting. If I didn&#8217;t like my cows, perhaps.<br />
But then again, the state vet would probably quarantine us for anthrax or something &amp; buy us out at rock bottom govt. prices bcs of these deaths.<br />
I tell you, if there were a &#8216;grey&#8217; market for them, I&#8217;d get a better price there.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaunilon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaunilon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Kennedy asked people who benefited from the program to write letters to Chavez thanking him for his generosity.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s precisely the problem:  it&#039;s not Chavez&#039;s generosity.  He&#039;s giving away oil that his countrymen labored to produce.  It&#039;s not his, it&#039;s theirs.  Socialism, in a nutshell.

Joe Kennedy should offer to give from his own wealth, and then he should ask Chavez to ante up same, dollar for dollar.  Anything less shows Chavez to be what he is:  willing to give away stolen goods, but his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Kennedy asked people who benefited from the program to write letters to Chavez thanking him for his generosity.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s precisely the problem:  it&#8217;s not Chavez&#8217;s generosity.  He&#8217;s giving away oil that his countrymen labored to produce.  It&#8217;s not his, it&#8217;s theirs.  Socialism, in a nutshell.</p>
<p>Joe Kennedy should offer to give from his own wealth, and then he should ask Chavez to ante up same, dollar for dollar.  Anything less shows Chavez to be what he is:  willing to give away stolen goods, but his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Nightly Ramble:The Circus speeds up &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1760979</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightly Ramble:The Circus speeds up &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaking of which, Crazy Uncle Hugo has decided the poor don&#8217;t need his help anymore. Ed Morressy has the details.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Speaking of which, Crazy Uncle Hugo has decided the poor don&#8217;t need his help anymore. Ed Morressy has the details.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1760932</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;aceinstall on January 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks for the info. I had no idea Borax was so hard to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>aceinstall on January 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the info. I had no idea Borax was so hard to find.</p>
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		<title>By: aceinstall</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceinstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LimeyGeek, yes it is. It&#039;s only found in two places on earth, death valley and on the border of Turkey and Afghanistan. Maybe someone should tell the Afghans there is some contribution to the world they could make besides poppies? At currant rate of use it&#039;s estimated there&#039;s about 50 years worth left. Of more immediate concern to my industry is the decline of news print to be recycled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LimeyGeek, yes it is. It&#8217;s only found in two places on earth, death valley and on the border of Turkey and Afghanistan. Maybe someone should tell the Afghans there is some contribution to the world they could make besides poppies? At currant rate of use it&#8217;s estimated there&#8217;s about 50 years worth left. Of more immediate concern to my industry is the decline of news print to be recycled.</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1760920</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I suggest having enough cattle &#039;die&#039; (yet mysteriously get sold for untaxed cash on the grey market) to offset the EPA theft against income theft. No net gain for the thieves in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest having enough cattle &#8216;die&#8217; (yet mysteriously get sold for untaxed cash on the grey market) to offset the EPA theft against income theft. No net gain for the thieves in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Badger40</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1760739</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;UltimateBob on January 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The tax is not here..yet. But I expect the EPA&#039;s little moratorium on the idea will not stop there. 
Fight for your right to the burger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>UltimateBob on January 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The tax is not here..yet. But I expect the EPA&#8217;s little moratorium on the idea will not stop there.<br />
Fight for your right to the burger!</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/06/hugo-chavez-cuts-off-free-heating-oil-to-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-1760729</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;aceinstall on January 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This was old cellulose. Very old.
I had heard about the addition of Borax...is it really that effective?

All I can say is that wherever I have installed pink fiberglass, my scurrying mice have vanished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>aceinstall on January 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>This was old cellulose. Very old.<br />
I had heard about the addition of Borax&#8230;is it really that effective?</p>
<p>All I can say is that wherever I have installed pink fiberglass, my scurrying mice have vanished.</p>
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