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Hugo Chavez cuts off free heating oil to the US

posted at 8:45 am on January 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Hugo Chavez tried embarrassing the Bush administration by supplying free heating oil to poor American families last winter, claiming that his socialist government did more to help Americans than the capitalists at the White House.  Unfortunately for Hugo, the oil bubble popped since last winter, and his sulphuric crude can’t even get $40 per barrel now.  With electricity failing throughout his country and revenue dissipating, Hugo can’t afford to spend money on Americans any longer:

Venezuela’s state oil company is suspending a much-promoted program that provided free heating oil to hundreds of thousands of poor people throughout the U.S., the company announced Monday.

The program has been a public relations bonanza for Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a socialist who frequently attacks capitalism and the U.S. Chavez repeatedly has tweaked the noses of U.S. policy makers by saying the program shows that he’s a good friend of America’s poor.

Venezuela is halting the program at least temporarily because the sharp drop in oil prices is forcing the country to reduce government spending, the firm said in a statement from Citizens Energy Corp., a Boston-based nonprofit that’s managed the program in the U.S.

That leaves Joe Kennedy II out in the cold as well.  The former Congressman helped organize Chavez’ propaganda operation, which (it should be said) did help real people in need of a break on heating oil.  He insisted that it mattered little where the oil originated or what Chavez’ purpose was in handing out the freebies, and refused to give up on Chavez even after the program ended.  Kennedy asked people who benefited from the program to write letters to Chavez thanking him for his generosity.

Instead of fronting for a socialist nutcase trying his best to become a dictator for life, perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil.  The Kennedys didn’t get to where they were at through socialism, after all.  Acting as an apologist for a confiscatory wanna-be dictator from Kennedy’s position is hypocritical on a couple of levels.

Congress, for its part, doubled the assistance for heating oil this year, so that should help cover the gap.


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Now things will really start to go to hell..
Is this really news?

Delta Wild Man on January 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM

You missed the main point Ed. Those fuel subsidies were at the expense of Venezuelas poor. Given the relative standards of living between the two countries, Hugo was robbing the poor to give to the rich. Irony has no bounds.

percysunshine on January 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Instead of fronting for a socialist nutcase trying his best to become a dictator for life, perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil.

Don’t hold your breath waiting on that to happen.

His whole family and political party are experts at spending other people’s money and holding on to their own.

kingsjester on January 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM

I realize that oil companies already pay hundreds of billions in taxes, but I would like to see American oil companies donate to programs like this. Pharmaceutical companies have means based assistance programs. I think the oil industry could follow their lead.

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM

which (it should be said) did help real people in need of a break on heating oil.

People who didn’t see the knife poised at their back.

Technically, Hitler improved the standard of living of real Germans in need of jobs.

Bishop on January 6, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Joe, Jr. isn’t going to be very happy this morning.

Then again, in all of the televised interviews of Joe Kennedy I’ve seen, he doesn’t appear happy to begin with…has that Droopy the Dog personality.

Ed, “perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil?” After all these years, don’t you realize that most liberals are far more apt at giving away your money than their own.

coldwarrior on January 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Also, heating oil will be cheaper this winter (about 9% below) so that should help as well. BTW, why doesn’t the Northeast convert to natural gas like every other part of the country? It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Venezuela’s state oil company

Those four words sum it up. Hope the American people are paying attention.

Tommy_G on January 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I realize that oil companies already pay hundreds of billions in taxes, but I would like to see American oil companies donate to programs like this. Pharmaceutical companies have means based assistance programs. I think the oil industry could follow their lead.

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM

You do understand that oil companies, in fact all large corporations, already give millions of dollars to charity. How about idiots like Kennedy not block drilling so prices go down? If these families cannot afford oil under any circumstances, why should a company give it for free? Let the state pay for the welfare.

Blake on January 6, 2009 at 9:05 AM

OT: Does anybody know what time Burress and Blago are going to show up at the hill this morning?

jimmy the notable on January 6, 2009 at 9:06 AM

Franken: Pathetic Angry Clown
Chavez: Dangerous Angry Clown

jgapinoy on January 6, 2009 at 9:07 AM

fluffy, great idea. Give us your list of oil companies, how much they should give, and who the oil should go to. Maybe GM should give away cars to needy folks.

faraway on January 6, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Here is where the fun begins.

Since the oil was free, I’m waiting to see how long it’s going to be before we begin to hear complaining from those people who received it. Better yet, I want to hear the words, I’m entitled to it.

That will show us capitalist dogs how lazy and greedy the needy can be instead of appreciative of a kind gesture.

madmonkphotog on January 6, 2009 at 9:09 AM

But the model Chavez used to ascend to power is the one our Messiah will probably use to consolidate more power in the hands of the federal government. Expect Obama to do nationalizations — health care, retirement (401k), banking for starters — under the guise of an economic “emergency,” just like Chavez did. Chavez shut down opposing media with the Venezuelan army; Obama will silence talk radio with a fairness doctrine and then use “bailouts” to subsidize liberal newspapers and TV outlets, thus ensuring they remain uncritical of him. The comparisons keep growing. The only thing Obama won’t do is start killing people or organize a coup to keep himself in power forever.

Outlander on January 6, 2009 at 9:10 AM

my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Depends on where you live. My natural gas bill in the winter is close to $100/mo.

MarkTheGreat on January 6, 2009 at 9:10 AM

yeah, let’s get ready to watch the circus on tv. what time for blago (is he coming too?) & burriss? wow, i didn’t know blago was coming. hot damn.

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM

my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Try heating a garage just to 40 degrees in Minnesota during the winter.

I pay $200/month, minimum.

Bishop on January 6, 2009 at 9:12 AM

but the thing you extreme northerners know about is insulation. i bet the homes in minnesota & michigan & wisconsin & heavens knows, north dakota, are all very well insulated. do these needy & unappreciative people insulate their homes?

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM

I think the Europeans might be needing it soon, depending on how Putin feels.

Of course, the Euros have declared heating your house to be illegal, contributing to global warming and all …

progressoverpeace on January 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM

o/t: the us senate convenes at noon today.

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Mission Accomplished: Obama got elected.

Static on January 6, 2009 at 9:22 AM

This is what socialism gets you. When you need it the most…. the elite will cut you off because *they need it more than YOU*

Skywise on January 6, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Fear not, poor people. You will get your cheap heating oil after Maxine Waters socializes…..uhhhh…basically…takes over and has the government run all of the oil companies.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 6, 2009 at 9:25 AM

percysunshine on January 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Great point!!!!

In a tropical nation, blessed with all manner of natural resources and land endowed with great wealth, sunshine, and consistent [if warm] equatorial weather, Hugo Chavez has his people waiting in bread lines, in egg lines, in milk lines, in beef lines, etc. Meanwhile he has the money to buy up rusty old Russian cruisers and play Castro, and have coke parties with Evo in Bolivia and Ralphie in Ecuador. What a bunch of world-class jerkoffs.

LibertyBoyNYC on January 6, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Like it or not, Blago is still governor and hasn’t been convicted of anything. He appointed Burris, who as far as I know, is not corrupt. The next election is in 2010 and the people of Illinois can decide whether to keep him or vote someone else in. I hope Burris brings in some big muscular “aides” to knock anyone out of the way who tries to prevent him from entering.

Blago may be a crook but I find the behavior of the democrat leadership despicable, first, with the phony attacks on Blago’s mental stability and second, with this b.s.

Truly, despicable.

Blake on January 6, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Hugo:
Forget it, man. Chew some coca!

whitetop on January 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM

did help real people in need of a break on heating oil

My mom used to be a caseworker for LIHEAP (energy assistance funded by taxpayers and the power companies). Some people using the program were really in need, but at least half were not. She had so many stories. People would pay their cable bills but not their power bills because they knew they could get extensions on power in the winter to keep their kids warm, but the cable company would just cut them off. It was a college town, so she every so often she’d have students come in for energy assistance. I guess they were unemployed because a job would interfere with their studies (partying). She had so many stories like that.

So I guess my point is, if Hugo’s program is anything like LIHEAP, not all of its recipients are in need.

vermillionsky on January 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM

blake, you are right. burris was lawfully appointed & should be seated.

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Also, heating oil will be cheaper this winter (about 9% below) so that should help as well. BTW, why doesn’t the Northeast convert to natural gas like every other part of the country? It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Home heating oil companies here in the NE have traditionally been Mom & Pop operations. There are lots of them, and competition works to affect prices. The gas company is a regulated monopoly in most places, with prices dictated by the market and the state’s rate boards. Also, the price of natural gas generally is not cheaper than oil because that violates basic economics. If your costs for materials are lower, but you can sell at the higher price of oil, you will. That’s what the gas companies do. In fact, in order to convert customers, the gas companies often offer discounts on new gas boilers to oil heat customers who will convert to gas. Once they have you, you’re a customer for life.

In regard to Kennedy/Chavez, the price of home heating oil has plunged dramatically in the northeast just in time for this heating season. We are very lucky. It could have been very very bad this year. But for some reason, which we can all guess at, the tremendous drop in heating oil prices doesn’t seem to affect Kennedy’s “poor” customers, who in spite of the over 50% drop in price, apparently continue to need even more help. I suspect the price could drop to zero and Kennedy would still find people who still need his help. The Dems don’t ever want to see problems solved. They’d drive themselves right out of the victim/whiner business that they invented and monopolize.

JiangxiDad on January 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Hey, I’m actually quite impressed that Chavez’s response to decreased revenue is to cut government spending. I mean, Venezuela clearly is not a model we want to follow, but in that one respect perhaps there is something our government can learn from theirs. If the government takes in less money, stop giving out free stuff!

aero on January 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM

If these families cannot afford oil under any circumstances, why should a company give it for free? Let the state charity pay for the welfare.

Blake on January 6, 2009 at 9:05 AM

DarkCurrent on January 6, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Obviously Hugo is completely sold on Obamanomics.

rplat on January 6, 2009 at 9:41 AM

It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Forgot to add, that the gas bill to heat a small, attached house in NYC is approx. 250/month, unless we stay under freezing, in which case it could easily rise to $325 or more. I’ve seen the bill as high as $400 in a particularly cold month.

The average house around here would use approx. 1000 gallons of heating oil over the roughly 6 month heating season. At the current price of roughly $2.20/gal. That would be about $375/mo X 6 months.

JiangxiDad on January 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

The price of heating a home in the north in the winter probably still doesn’t compare to the cost of air-conditioning a home in the south in summer ($400+/mo at times), and triple-digit heat can be just as deadly as winter cold. Where’s my air conditioning subsidy, Hugo? Oh, yeah — Obama says I’m evil and selfish for wanting to keep my home at a comfortable temperature all year round. I deserve to suffer because I’m American and it’s only fair to the rest of the world if I die in my home when I can no longer pay my crazy-high electricity and/or gas bills. Obama thinks it’s a good idea for energy prices to skyrocket so we’ll use less of it. It’s only fair.

aero on January 6, 2009 at 9:50 AM

What’s with that bird? It made me think of an old SNL skit. “That bird is a liar, I’m Hugo Chavez“.

LastRick on January 6, 2009 at 10:03 AM

perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil. The Kennedys didn’t get to where they were at through socialism, after all.

No member of the Kennedy family for at least two generations that I know of has been a capitalist in any form. Their strength is not in earning money, but in spending it (preferably other peoples).

Vashta.Nerada on January 6, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Y’all hated his gesture, hated that he made an effort, hated that he made Bush look bad, and now that he ends the program because he can’t afford it, you hate him even more. What a bunch is whiney whiners.

PS Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives so they should stop beeyotching about the evils of socialism. It’s highly entertaining but highly annoying.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

I actually did not know Joe Kennedy played along with this. He is not worthy of the name Joe.

Mr. Joe on January 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Hugo has been over spending for years. In 2007 it was reported: Venezuela Budget Gap More Than Doubles on Spending which was when oil was about $70 a barrel and climbing.

At $50 a barrel and oil accounting for 95% of Venezuela revenue I am guessing this deficit doubled again and they are having more serious issues then being reported right now. The $100 million cut is a drop in the bucket to the problems Hugo has now.

JeffinSac on January 6, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Chavez is an avowed enemy of the US. Kennedy supports him because of that. So do you. You didn’t need to give Chavez a public relations coup in order to provide heating assistance to Americans.

btw, I didn’t buy a house until I could afford to pay for the utilities. Heating assistance my butt!

JiangxiDad on January 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM

lefty cognative dissonance:

“but…but…obama”

resolution:
“flip the table”

eh on January 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Kennedy asked people who benefited from the program to write letters to Chavez thanking him for his generosity.

Jerk

The oil given to Americans was taken on the backs of the Venezualans.

Butt-kisser-Kennedy would be in line for Chavez confiscations if he lived there but he is a useful tool up north. I buy Contra Cafe coffee. On their website is this about the coffee roasters of Venezuala

In January 2006, Chavez doubled the price that Venezuela’s roasters pay for coffee while refusing to allow the roasters to raise their prices to consumers. Faced with certain loss, the roasters shut down their facilities. Chavez responded by sending in the military to confiscate the roasters’ stocks. “The army has the authority to confiscate the coffee,” he said on his weekly TV show. “We will sell the coffee at prices set by us.”

This is how populist Chavez operates

entagor on January 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Your wish granted.

Oldnuke on January 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Chavez is an avowed enemy of the US. Kennedy supports him because of that. So do you. You didn’t need to give Chavez a public relations coup in order to provide heating assistance to Americans.

btw, I didn’t buy a house until I could afford to pay for the utilities. Heating assistance my butt!

JiangxiDad on January 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM
———
A foreign leader who publicly takes pleasure in America’s problems (and there are many many many many) is simply an a$$hole, not an enemy. If he were your enemy, he wouldn’t sell you oil. Duh.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM

PS Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives so they should stop beeyotching about the evils of socialism. It’s highly entertaining but highly annoying.

We have lots of crime around us, but it existence does not justify our acceptance. A slave need not not appreciate his rations.

bagoh20 on January 6, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Y’all hated his gesture, hated that he made an effort, hated that he made Bush look bad, and now that he ends the program because he can’t afford it, you hate him even more. What a bunch is whiney whiners.

PS Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives so they should stop beeyotching about the evils of socialism. It’s highly entertaining but highly annoying.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Examples please?? The only time I interact with the gov’t is when I mail a letter, renew my license/ passport, or look at my paystub to see how much evil FICA has sucked away. Other than that, the gov’t and I don’t interact that much.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

but the thing you extreme northerners know about is insulation. i bet the homes in minnesota & michigan & wisconsin & heavens knows, north dakota, are all very well insulated. do these needy & unappreciative people insulate their homes?

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM

—–
Kelley,

The poor mostly live in older homes.

Prior to the ’70s, builders weren’t required to insulate homes in northern climates – had a neighbor who insulated like mad in the ’60s and was called crazy for it – he laughed all the way to the bank once the ’70s price spikes hit…

Anyway, point is, insulation costs money, retrofit insulation costs more money, old (pre-70s) homes weren’t required to have it so mostly don’t, and that’s where the poorer working folks will tend to live.

Sucks to be poor.

My (rather) old house is insulated to R-49, which *exceeds* the area building code. It’ll pay for itself by 2015.

Mew

acat on January 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Just so you know, most energy companies have similar programs to the link I provided above. You just never hear about them because our home grown energy companies are by definition evil and thus nothing they do could be worth talking about. Of course when some two bit thug of a third world dictator makes a token gesture to puff up his already bloated self image, well now, that’s news.

Oldnuke on January 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Hope the American people are paying attention.

Tommy_G on January 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM

That’s funnier’n a retard tackling a greasy doorknob

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Y’all hated his gesture, hated that he made an effort, hated that he made Bush look bad, and now that he ends the program because he can’t afford it, you hate him even more. What a bunch is whiney whiners.

PS Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives so they should stop beeyotching about the evils of socialism. It’s highly entertaining but highly annoying.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

No, we’re just pointing out his hypocrisy. Chavez doesn’t CARE FOR THE PEOPLE. He uses socialism as a crutch to gain power and when push comes to shove, he throws socialism under the bus.

Here’s a hint socialism doesn’t care WHAT THE PRICE OF OIL is so long as everyone has equal access and… guess what? Oil production in Venezuela is the same as it has been.

Skywise on January 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Also, heating oil will be cheaper this winter (about 9% below) so that should help as well. BTW, why doesn’t the Northeast convert to natural gas like every other part of the country? It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

You are lucky that you don’t pay that much. Here in Ca. Our gas bill from Nov. through March to April is way over 100.00. Sometimes it gets to be almost 200.00 a month. That is how it is for a lot of people here. Is why we use our fire places.

sheebe on January 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Y’all hated his gesture, hated that he made an effort, hated that he made Bush look bad, and now that he ends the program because he can’t afford it, you hate him even more. What a bunch is whiney whiners.

PS Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives so they should stop beeyotching about the evils of socialism. It’s highly entertaining but highly annoying.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

No, really, the only thing I hated was his photo op in a Harlem church with that fat bastard Chuck Rangel and the rest of the toad bosses. The rest is par for the lefty course. The left has been / will be whining about Booooosh until the cows come home to roost. That’s nothing new and I can believe most who frequent this blog are more or less numb to it by now.

I don’t understand your logic in being both annoyed and entertained. No wonder you stomach socialism. Now, you tell me, does government cheese go better with your brand of whining?

Welfare, as it’s practiced in this country, is not socialism, true – it’s slavery in this country. It makes brainless addicts of free men. Thanks for sharing.

LibertyBoyNYC on January 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Oldnuke on January 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Just so you know, most energy companies have similar programs to the link I provided above. You just never hear about them because our home grown energy companies are by definition evil and thus nothing they do could be worth talking about. Of course when some two bit thug of a third world dictator makes a token gesture to puff up his already bloated self image, well now, that’s news.

Thanks for posting that, Oldnuke. We don’t hear about those programs. I’m sure my local media (here in Kennedy country) will announce those programs right after someone includes oil companies in the federal bailout. After all, their revenues have been cut by 60% or more.

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM

It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Are you living in an igloo? We have gas and I pay much more than that in the summer.

DJ from MA on January 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM

A foreign leader who publicly takes pleasure in America’s problems (and there are many many many many) is simply an a$$hole, not an enemy.

No, he’d be an enemy. Also, since you listed 4 “manys”, I assume we are just evil compared to others.

If he were your enemy, he wouldn’t sell you oil. Duh.

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Wrong. Few can refine Venezuelan heavy oil. But reportedly the Chinese are building refineries to handle it, and then our “enemy” will no longer sell us oil.

A better idea would be not to allow Venez. oil into the US,and let Chavez and Kennedy refine it in their butts.

JiangxiDad on January 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Those fuel subsidies were at the expense of Venezuelas poor. Given the relative standards of living between the two countries, Hugo was robbing the poor to give to the rich. Irony has no bounds.

percysunshine on January 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Great point. Thank you. Why don’t people understand this?

but the thing you extreme northerners know about is insulation. i bet the homes in minnesota & michigan & wisconsin & heavens knows, north dakota, are all very well insulated. do these needy & unappreciative people insulate their homes?

kelley in virginia on January 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Umm-I live in ND & I freeze my a$$ off when the temps get -20+ bcs I cannot afford to renovate my 1974 double-wide to reinsulate it. Plus, even if I could, I couldn’t find anyone to do it or even help me do it. No one wants to work for a living even here in ND.
I am not the only person here who cannot afford necessary home improvements, like insulation.

Of course, we are currently embattled just trying to keep our ranch from being a statistic. That’s where all my $$ goes. Trying to feed my cows.
I could definitely use a bail out right about now.
Especially if the EPA enforces that cow tax. They may not make me pay $87.50 per cow, but they might make me pay $10 or $20.

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Also, heating oil will be cheaper this winter (about 9% below) so that should help as well. BTW, why doesn’t the Northeast convert to natural gas like every other part of the country? It’s much cheaper than heating oil; my bill is generally around $15 a month and I’ve never heard of anyone paying over $30 or $40.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Actually you are wrong. Heating oil is more expensive but you use less. Natural Gas in some States is going UP 10-17% because of demand and the fact this is one of the coldest winters people can remember for years.

I personally pay about 300 a month in Natural Gas. My Ex boyfriend, who has heating oil since he can’t get natural gas spent over 1500 to fill up his 300 gallon tank. And that tank will last him most of the winter if he is conservative about it…. but that runs his heating, water and a few other items. Mostly heating though.

Don’t assume that just because you only pay a small amount that everyone else is like that. And this isn’t in just Alaska. This is also areas of MN, WI and Michigan… that I have friends in.

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

The Kennedys didn’t get to where they were at through socialism, after all.

I may have to respectfully disagree there. Bootlegging is very common in socialist societies.

raiderdav on January 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

I know how you feel. -20 in a poorly insulated house, condo, doublewide.. SUCKS! I am going to have to pull all the sheet rock out this summer, redo the insulation and then hire a guy to redo the drywall (I won’t do drywall), just so I can insulate the pipes and they won’t FREEZE again. I am just not sure how I want to insulate as of yet.

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Americans need to understand they have lots and lots and ltos of socialism everywhere in their daily lives…

Dave Rywall on January 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM

what are you, some bircherite coldwar throwback nut?

eh on January 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Instead of fronting for a socialist nutcase trying his best to become a dictator for life, perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil.

Man, you don’t get it. Kennedy left Congress because he found out how much money was to be made heading up the nonprofit Citizens Energy and its subsidiaries. His brother Michael was milking the company for $600,000 per annum before he died. Lord knows how much Joe is taking from it now.

thegreatbeast on January 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Acting as an apologist for a confiscatory wanna-be dictator from Kennedy’s position is hypocritical on a couple of levels.

It didn’t stop his Grandfather

ToddonCapeCod on January 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM

eh on January 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

+1

fluffy on January 6, 2009 at 11:22 AM

That bird has a giant wart on his ass…….oh!…….Is that Chavez?…….my bad!

grapeknutz on January 6, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Hey, Joe -

How it is that it’s a.o.k. for Chavez to “kill the planet” by exploiting Venezeula’s natural resources? Why is it that instead of maligning him as an eeevil and greedy polluter, he is portrayed as a beneficent folk hero who keeps poor people from freezing to death under the eevil Bush/Cheney/Satan Administration?

Buy Danish on January 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM

That photograph of chavez looks like “Il Duce”. I guess that chavez could not grow a “Toothbrush moustache”.

Johan Klaus on January 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Buy Danish on January 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I should smack you for helping the left with a thought like that. But let’s capitalize on it… take from the leftist idiots and give back to OUR troops, Vets and so on without them knowing.

Could work.

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Buy Danish on January 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM

He’s busy inspecting the inside of his sphincter right now.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

That little pipsqueak Chavez can go drink his lousy heating oil.

pilamaye on January 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Well I hope you have people up there who actually work.
We tried to hire a guy to insulate the bottom of our trailer & he was doing such a crappy half-a$$ job my husband told him to just quit, even though we kept informing him on what exactly to do, he wouldn’t do it.
So I’m guessing this summer, if we can afford it, we’re gonna have to do it ourselves. insulation & plywood. It’s not fun screwing in plywood sheets to the underside of your house in the crawlspace. Ugh.
But on the upside, all this snow we’ve been getting is a great insulator! We used the tractor to pile it up all around the house & wa-lah! It works quite nicely!
It just doesn’t get any more redneck than that.

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

It just doesn’t get any more redneck than that.

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I salute you.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

You all might want to read this:

thegreatbeast on January 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24351
Sorry.

thegreatbeast on January 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

hey let me know, I may have some friends in that area who could do that for you. LOL I have friends all over the place.

email cmahnken2003 @ yahoo

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM

The Kennedy family didn’t amass their money by giving to charities. In their view, that’s what taxpayers are for.

GarandFan on January 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Ok. Well I put your address in my book & I might have to take you up on that one. It gets lonely out here!

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Are you living in an igloo? We have gas and I pay much more than that in the summer.

DJ from MA on January 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM

No. A studio in Chicago. Most of my friends live in Chicago condos, so that might explain the disconnect. Square units of house probably plays into it. Most people I know don’t have huge houses. I frankly wouldn’t even want one even if I could afford it (Too much cleaning).

All I know that it costs a lot less than when I had electric heat. Then I was got hit with $300/ month electric bills.

Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Well we could have it worse.

Putin could be in control of our Gas.

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

DRILL! HERE! NOW!

CynicalOptimist on January 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM

DRILL OFTEN!

CynicalOptimist on January 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM

DRILL! HERE! NOW!

CynicalOptimist on January 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Just don’t make Upinak angry. The Internet bitstream gets jittery when she’s angry ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM

nstead of fronting for a socialist nutcase trying his best to become a dictator for life, perhaps Joe Kennedy could use part of his family fortune to replace the oil.

Great idea. If Oprah and all the movie stars and foundation trustees who voted for Obama would cough up some of their money–instead of using it to advocate socialism–we could have free health care and a solid financial system for all.

PattyJ on January 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Chavez did get what he wanted; kindred spirits in power. Why would he need to double down on that?

steveegg on January 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Just don’t make Upinak angry. The Internet bitstream gets jittery when she’s angry ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM

I come in waves of fury, much like a hurricane. I leave devistation in my wake… more or less I can make a man cry. :D

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

But i thought that communism WORKED???

Please dont tell me now that it doesnt..

All the liberals have placed all their hopes in communism.
By stopping the free oil you are destroying their dreams of a peace loving unitarian society where everything is FREE..

MORONS

jcila on January 6, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I could definitely use a bail out right about now.
Especially if the EPA enforces that cow tax. They may not make me pay $87.50 per cow, but they might make me pay $10 or $20.

Badger40 on January 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

A result of those govermnent-funded bovine flatulence studies, no doubt?

Al Gore thinks your cows fart too much, so you have to pay a tax on them?

Goes to show you, the herd in Washington produces more BS thann yours.

UltimateBob on January 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I come in waves of fury, much like a hurricane. I leave devistation in my wake… more or less I can make a man cry. :D

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

You’re telling me you come like a hurricane? This is a family show.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM

You’re telling me you come like a hurricane? This is a family show.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Ahhh, no. Just my flare up of anger. Are you ready for the Debris?

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Are you ready for the Debris?

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I’ll get my hat & coat.

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM

So I moved to a new apartment with an oil furnance…

for nothing?

CARP!!!

YOU PROMISED HUGO. I WANT MY DAMN OIL!

hawkdriver on January 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

The cold is God’s way of telling us to burn more Catholics.

Name that quote ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The cold is God’s way of telling us to burn more Catholics.

Name that quote ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Pelosi.. no Reid!

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

The cold is God’s way of telling us to burn more Catholics.

Name that quote ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Gov Hucksterbee?

hawkdriver on January 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Fluffy said

but I would like to see American oil companies donate to programs like this

Uh by all means NO. People who can’t afford heating oil need to move. We are a CAPITALIST country. The oil companies are already taxed out of their minds and you want them to pay ANOTHER TAX?

If I owned a similar type of company, I would say, “No, the leeches in government are stealing enough from me already to cover that. What the government chooses to do with that levy is beyond my control.”

dogsoldier on January 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

upinak on January 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM
hawkdriver on January 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Not a politician, but I like how you think ;)

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0526715/quotes

LimeyGeek on January 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

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