LMAO! Nothing like clueless socialists.

Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Your generic rhetoric of “cutting spending” and “cutting taxes” is not always good fiscal conservative government.

Oh I’m sorry, increasing spending and increasing taxes is good fiscal conservative government. LMAO! Nothing like clueless socialists.

The Alaskan Socialists have proven my point about the Palin Collective, you are all economically illiterate.

“Cutting taxes and cutting spending is not good fiscal conservatism” – ROFLMAO!!! (I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair)

You people need to stay the hell out of economics.

Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 12:10 AM

There you go- you just proved you are a liberal. You purposely misquoted me. Just cut a word or two here and there and bingo you get the statement you want.

Clearly what you did was dishonest. You do not want to debate, you want to insult.

I am guessing that you are advocating for the entire state of Alaska be tossed from the union because the people collectively own their own resources in their state.

Still you believe that is Palin’s fault. Here is a clue. Palin was not born yet when Alaska wrote its constitution or became a state.

You people need to stay the hell out of economics.

Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 12:10 AM

Under Alaska’s constitution, the state’s natural resources belong to its people. Jay Hammond, Republican governor of Alaska in the 1970s, took this provision seriously. When oil began flowing from the North Slope, he pushed for royalties to be shared among Alaska’s citizens. Many battles later, the legislature agreed to a deal: 75 percent of the state’s oil revenue would go to the government as a replacement for taxes. The remaining 25 percent would flow into the Alaska Permanent Fund, and would be invested on behalf of all Alaskans equally.

Economist Vernon Smith, a Nobel laureate and libertarian scholar at the Cato Institute, has called it “a model that governments all over the world would be well-advised to copy.” Here is an opinion piece in the WSJ 2003 where he advises the Iraqi government could implement this policy.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004479

SNIP (but the enire page is really worth reading.)

To become a state, the residents of a territory had to persuade Congress that they were law-abiding, that they could run a state responsibly, and that they could plan and build for the future of the new state. Alaskans had already proved that it could in the statehood campaign from 1946 to 1958.

The population of Alaska was small in 1959 when it became a state – barely over 225,000 (c. 45,000 Native). Congress did not think that such a small population could generate enough tax dollars to pay for state government. Therefore Congress included two measures in the statehood act to help pay for the new state. The first involved federal land in Alaska. Sixty percent of the land in Alaska – 225 million acres – was set aside as federal land. By the first measure, the federal government gave to Alaska 90% of the profits from mineral lease sales on the federal land in Alaska. Oil is one of the most important minerals in Alaska, and to this day wherever oil or gas leases are sold for exploration or development on federal land, 90% of the revenue is given to Alaska.

http://www.akhistorycourse.org/articles/article.php?artID=138

According to the state constitution, Alaskan residents all own the drilling rights to their land. It is a condition of their statehood.

Golly, I better go sell all my mutual fund shares, lest I be called a socialist.

Snowed In on January 8, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Your mutual fund wasn’t created by the state and is subject to the market.

Economic illiterates! Collective Ownership is NOT CAPITALISM.

Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Golly, I better go sell all my mutual fund shares, lest I be called a socialist.

“Cutting taxes and cutting spending is not good fiscal conservatism” – ROFLMAO!!! (I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair)

You people need to stay the hell out of economics.

Clearly you have no clue whatsoever about Alaska. Absolutely clueless.

I cannot believe you actually say you run a business. Do you realize that your suppliers make a profit when they sell to you? You then “develop” those supplies into something that you sell and you make a profit.

Are you actually claiming that the people of own the supplies they sell to you should not make a profit?

The people of Alaska own the natural resources(oil, natural gas, etc) underground. They sell that at a profit to the oil companies. The oil companies develop it and then sell it at a profit.

That is capitalism, not socialism!

kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Economic illiterates! Collective Ownership is NOT CAPITALISM.

Yes I run a business not my neighborhood. Palin supporters are dumb as rocks.

In Alaska, residents don’t pay a state income tax. So Palin cannot cut a tax that does not exist.

Usually the number two tax that most state residents pay each year in most states is a property tax.(although sometimes it sales taxes, but most people don’t realize how much they pay in sales taxes because they do not track it. But we will get to the sales tax)

In Alaska, residents do not pay property tax to their state government. In fact, in most states property taxes are imposed by local governments. Obviously, Palin cannot cut property taxes imposed by the state government that she runs because the state does not charge property taxes.

Of course she can cut taxes, by cutting taxes to or aiding local governments to cut property taxes.

Back to .08 a gallon. Palin could have cut this tax, however she did something better. Since most driving age individuals use around 15 gallons of gas a week, cutting that .08 does not add up to much. It would save only the individuals that drive $62.40 a year.

Palin probably could have done this and not really substantially helped the residents in her state.

So Palin did something better to help the residents of her state. She gave every man, woman and child an extra $1200 cash. The children get that check too. For an average family of four saving them $62.40 in a year does help much. Giving them $4800 this past year really does help them.

So all of this goes to prove that your statement saying that she should have cut their taxes is nothing more than CLUELESS POPULIST RHETORIC.

You obviously had no clue that the state of Alaska generates their government dollars from petroleum and not from taxes.

Clearly Palin could not cut taxes where taxes do not exist. Palin directly helped each individual in her state by giving them cash from excess money.

Palin can also give money pack to the people by improving the services that they need. She can give the people back their money by improving public safety and hiring more police officers and state troopers…she did that. She can improve driving conditions by buying more snow plows…she did that. She can improve their health care…she did that. She can improve their quality of water and sewer systems…she did that. She can improve their educational systems…she did that.

All of these things she is doing for the people of Alaska also increases spending.

She also stashed billions away in a savings account for a rainy day when fuel prices are not as high, like now.

What Palin did for the people of Alaska is put them first. The needs of the people come before the needs of the government.

What Palin did was good governing.

Your generic rhetoric of “cutting spending” and “cutting taxes” is not always good fiscal conservative government.

Recognizing that the money belongs to the people and treating that money as if it belongs to the people by being smart about how you spend it, is good FISCAL CONSERVATISM.

kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM

LMAO! That is populist rhetoric because it is WELFARE! Cutting taxes is fiscally conservative not writing welfare checks. You are so blindly populist, you don’t even know what socialism is! What about the property tax payer? Why should some renter get a state check for doing nothing?

YOU ARE FRICKING CLUELESS ABOUT SOCIALISM.

To come here and claim welfare checks are fiscally conservative is beyond ignorant.

Cutting taxes and cutting spending is FISCALLY CONSERVATISM you idiot. Palin supporters are dumb as rocks.

Palin supports Socialism:

“We’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” – Sarah Palin

This is the last thing we need in the Republican party.

Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Clearly you have no clue whatsoever about Alaska. Absolutely clueless.

I cannot believe you actually say you run a business. Do you realize that your suppliers make a profit when they sell to you? You then “develop” those supplies into something that you sell and you make a profit.

Are you actually claiming that the people of own the supplies they sell to you should not make a profit?

The people of Alaska own the natural resources(oil, natural gas, etc) underground. They sell that at a profit to the oil companies. The oil companies develop it and then sell it at a profit.

That is capitalism, not socialism!

I cannot believe you actually made this foolish statement and think you are right about it.

Good grief.

No she should be lowering taxes not increasing spending. Clueless populist rhetoric like this is why Bush kept expanding the size of government. Maybe you like Socialism but I don’t. I am so sick of the nanny staters in the Republican party they need to go join their good friends on the other side. Palin is another big government populist Republican who speaks a lot of empty rhetoric, does token things and then makes government bigger through more bloated bureaucracy to appease the economic illiterates who want to “help” people. Not with my goddamn tax money. Frickin Socialists.

Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Sorry- got a job, just got and could not respond sooner.

Speaking of clueless populist rhetoric, let’s examine these tax cuts you are demanding Palin produce…

The number one tax that most state residents pay our each year in most states is a state income tax.

In Alaska, residents don’t pay a state income tax. So Palin cannot cut a tax that does not exist.

Usually the number two tax that most state residents pay each year in most states is a property tax.(although sometimes it sales taxes, but most people don’t realize how much they pay in sales taxes because they do not track it. But we will get to the sales tax)

In Alaska, residents do not pay property tax to their state government. In fact, in most states property taxes are imposed by local governments. Obviously, Palin cannot cut property taxes imposed by the state government that she runs because the state does not charge property taxes.

The number three tax that most state residents pay is sales tax. The state of Alaska does not charge any of its residents any sales tax. Once again, Palin cannot cut sales taxes because the state does not charge any sales taxes to its residents.

We move onto number four highest paid taxes that most state residents have to pay a fuel tax added directly at the pump. You are in luck, because the state of Alaska does charge a fuel tax added directly at the pump. However, the fuel tax that the state government charges in Alaska is the lowest in the nation at .08 a gallon. My state charges .329 a gallon and now the Dems run everything, the rumor has it is going up by .07 a gallon.

Back to .08 a gallon. Palin could have cut this tax, however she did something better. Since most driving age individuals use around 15 gallons of gas a week, cutting that .08 does not add up to much. It would save only the individuals that drive $62.40 a year.

Palin probably could have done this and not really substantially helped the residents in her state.

So Palin did something better to help the residents of her state. She gave every man, woman and child an extra $1200 cash. The children get that check too. For an average family of four saving them $62.40 in a year does help much. Giving them $4800 this past year really does help them.

So all of this goes to prove that your statement saying that she should have cut their taxes is nothing more than CLUELESS POPULIST RHETORIC.

You obviously had no clue that the state of Alaska generates their government dollars from petroleum and not from taxes.

Clearly Palin could not cut taxes where taxes do not exist. Palin directly helped each individual in her state by giving them cash from excess money.

Palin can also give money pack to the people by improving the services that they need. She can give the people back their money by improving public safety and hiring more police officers and state troopers…she did that. She can improve driving conditions by buying more snow plows…she did that. She can improve their health care…she did that. She can improve their quality of water and sewer systems…she did that. She can improve their educational systems…she did that.

All of these things she is doing for the people of Alaska also increases spending.

She also stashed billions away in a savings account for a rainy day when fuel prices are not as high, like now.

What Palin did for the people of Alaska is put them first. The needs of the people come before the needs of the government.

What Palin did was good governing.

Your generic rhetoric of “cutting spending” and “cutting taxes” is not always good fiscal conservative government.

Recognizing that the money belongs to the people and treating that money as if it belongs to the people by being smart about how you spend it, is good FISCAL CONSERVATISM.

“We’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” – Sarah Palin

This is the last thing we need in the Republican party.

First – Sarah Palin was THE most explosive thing to hit the campaign trail this last election cycle. That’s not even a debatable point. She has name recognition that will not be lost – even if she tried to keep a low profile between now and 2012 (which she’s not).

Second – Sarah’s greatest attraction is the fact that she’s an outsider. Why would she join the comedy of mediocrity known as the United States Senate? Look – in four years – the “Senate Brand” is going to be polluted beyond recognition. We’ll have Carolyn Kennedy (a joke really) as a Senator from one of the most influential states in the Union. We’ll have this new dude whathisname from Illinois – who was appointed by a criminal. We already have Harry Reid – a clueless idiot.

Sarah should RUN FROM ANY THOUGHT OF BEING A SENATOR. Senators now run this country – two in the White House (BHO and Joe “Chia Pet” Biden). One as Secretary of State (Hillary) … and a whole grunch on Capital Hill. Believe me – in four years – Senators will be seen as a part of the problem – not a part of the solution.

Go Sarah!

He is wasting away precious time in his life, a life where he apparently owns a business, that I’m assuming has employees, possibly co-owners, customers, vendors, etc.

And yet, his time spent in a campaign to bring down a good woman with mostly lies, half-truths, old stuff long since debunked.

It is not only pathological, but unprofessional. The people you work with deserve better. Maybe even your family deserves better.

I’m divorced. I have time to burn for other interests. Sarah, Bobby, the GOP, Church, reading, running, work, etc.

But Poptech, you need to take care of business.

You are really starting to seem to ‘get off’ on this PDS stuff. Stop yourself. It’s getting disturbing and embarrasing assuming you are not a troll.

I happened to think that Palin was not ready to be POTUS, but that she would have been a wonderful VP, and would have been a great worker for McCain if elected.

You don’t want to go PDS and dedicate your life to destroying someone else. Pick the man you want elected and boost them up, don’t tear others down.

Sarah inspires as Obama does. This is actually a very important component of leadership. You should have seen the young women and girls at the Palin rally I went too. Can’t they have someone to look up to as an inspiration or hero?

It’s GOP people like you that keep us from losingwinning, assuming you are a Republican.

Correction.

Neither did Lincoln, really. I want someone who leads based on firmly-held conviction and who has a clear sense of what’s right and wrong, not necessarily a slick CEO with an Ivy League pedigree.

ddrintn on January 7, 2009 at 12:02 AM
I don’t want another Lincoln. Unlike you I run a business and know what it takes, I want someone qualified to run the country not identify with some of your talking points and run the country into the ground or make stupid decisions because they are unqualified.

I don’t listen to talking points, yours included. I tend to make up my own mind. She works, and has worked, the business with her husband.

littleguy on January 7, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I know Palin supporters are in denial of the facts. Wow based on her experience we might as well hire a fisherman to run the country. LMAO!

Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 12:09 AM

And this is the SOUL of your problem.

You are WAY to focused on whether a candidate would be the best person to govern with little if any emphasis on ELECTABILITY.

Obama has less experience than Sarah, and yet HE will be POTUS. Why? Because Dems are shrewd and know you have to get elected first. Worry about the governing part later.

If you focus 100% on what you perceive as governing competence, you will NEVER actually get to govern.

This is the heart of almost all your issues with Palin.

It’s GOP people like you that keep us from losing, assuming you are a Republican.

You have to get elected FIRST. Competency is worth NOTHING if you never get a chance to use it and improve on it.

No she should be lowering taxes not increasing spending. Clueless populist rhetotic like this is why Bush kept expanding the size of government. Maybe you like Socialism but I don’t. I am so sick of the nanny staters in the Republican party they need to go join their good friends on the other side. Palin is another big government populist Republican who speaks a lot of empty rhetoric, does token things and then makes government bigger through more bloated bureaucracy to appease the economic illiterates who want to “help” people. Not with my goddamn tax money. Frickin Socialists.

Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM

You just got talked out of the other Blog headline.. do you really want it to come into here too?

Todd is part Yu’pik, not Inuit.

Snowed In on January 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Which is Inuit. Thanks for updating. It is like saying Eskimo…. which about every damn tourist says.

Or did you forget that Todd is Inuit?

upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:15 AM

Todd is part Yu’pik, not Inuit.

When revenue is pouring into the state coffers, the idea of Palin hoarding that money is ridiculous. She needs to be spending that money on the people of Alaska and their quality of life in Alaska.

kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 7:41 AM

No she should be lowering taxes not increasing spending. Clueless populist rhetotic like this is why Bush kept expanding the size of government. Maybe you like Socialism but I don’t. I am so sick of the nanny staters in the Republican party they need to go join their good friends on the other side. Palin is another big government populist Republican who speaks a lot of empty rhetoric, does token things and then makes government bigger through more bloated bureaucracy to appease the economic illiterates who want to “help” people. Not with my goddamn tax money. Frickin Socialists.

McCain the Geezer had electile dysfunction.
He got a prescription for some ViagSarah.
But America said, not now, I have a head wallet-ache.

jgapinoy on January 7, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Don’t go there. PDS is running rampant… and you could be the next to become Troll worthy.

McCain asked her to run (and managed her badly and she still outshone)

McCain the Geezer had electile dysfunction.
He got a prescription for some ViagSarah.
But America said, not now, I have a head wallet-ache.

The world may never know!