Alaska Senate poll: Murkowski 57, Palin 33
posted at 1:15 pm on January 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Almost a mirror image of the dKos poll last month. Is the bloom off the rose?
Pollster Dave Dittman just finished a statewide survey on a possible Palin-versus-Murkowski matchup – and Murkowski beats Palin, at least in this poll, hands down…
“And I think there would be a feeling, too, of overreaching — going too far, too aggressive, too much too soon — if Sarah decided to run for Senate,” Dittman said. “When you’ve already got someone there with seniority, who most people think is doing a good job, I think it would be a huge mistake.”…
A poll commissioned last month by the Web site dailykos.com showed Palin beating Murkowski 55 to 31 percent, although local pollster Dittman says he has concerns about the methods used to arrive at those numbers.
One or the other poll’s dramatically skewed, as nothing’s happened in the last three weeks to warrant a 25-point swing. Except, er, the allegations — since rescinded — that Alaska cops suspended their drug investigation into Levi Johnston’s mother until after the election. Or the new questions over how Johnston landed a job for which he might be ineligible under federal law. Or Bristol Palin giving birth, prompting another round of wrangling between the ‘Cuda and the media. I think that covers everything.
Exit question: If she doesn’t challenge Murkowski in 2010 or The One in 2012, how’s she going to stay on the national media’s radar until 2016? Fox News will have to set aside a special weekly kaffeeklatsch segment for her or something. Don’t let us down, Greta!
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Yeah… What is up with that? Did one of Palin’s relatives not go to prom with this guy or something?
Illinidiva on January 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM
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Totally. Criticism is fine: no one is perfect. But, the loathing, the single-minded, paranoid tearing-down of a decent person? Psychosis, no doubt.
littleguy on January 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Totally. Criticism is fine: no one is perfect. But, the loathing, the single-minded, paranoid tearing-down of a decent person? Psychosis, no doubt.
littleguy on January 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Very true littleguy, over at Newsbusters Poptech spams the threads with his anti-Palin postings. It gets extremely annoying.
He is seriously delusional with his PDS
Scuba Dude on January 6, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Based on your nonsense you should not reply to my posts. I never said anything about where someone went to college. But yes Hardvard Business School is an EXCELLENT school and it does make a difference. Romney unlike the joke C. Kennedy has run a state and has successful private sector experience. Sarah has a worthless degree in journalism and rabid fans.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Palin supporters need to try and discredit the overwhelming evidence I have against their beloved messiah Because once people learn the truth the hysteria will fade.
Funny how my position has never changed – not once. I provide overwhelming evidence for my positions. I even predicted McCain would lose when he picked her yet I am the one “delusional”.
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:52 PM
What was the LMAO thing then? The school doesn’t make the difference, the person does. Like Romney, Palin has run a state and has successful private sector experience.
littleguy on January 6, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Palin does not have ANY private sector experience. LMAO!
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM
When you only have to con 300k people in the middle of literal nowhere, about anyone could get that job with sufficient ability to deceive. It just happened that someone was able to deceive McCain that they were a regular person.
The only skill she has is persisting in the face of the opposition. Nothing more.
sethstorm on January 6, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Sorry, dude. She is a small business owner. LMAON!!!
littleguy on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Mitt Romney:
Professional Experience:
- Consultant, Boston Consulting Group, 1975-1977
- Vice President, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1978-1984
- CEO, Bain Capital, Incorporated, 1984-1998
- CEO, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1991-1993
- President, Salt Lake Winter Olympics Organizing Committee, 1999-2002
Sarah Palin:
Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989
- Director, Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc., 2003-2007
LMAO!
Poptech on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Sarah the CEO? (Inc.com)
“Both returns name Todd Palin as proprietor and the couple’s Wasilla home as a main office.
On her public financial disclosure form, Palin describes the business as a sole proprietorship owned by her husband, listing the type and amount of proceeds simply as “Fishing Income.”
LMAO! Do your homework next time and stop listening to right wing talking points.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Neither did Lincoln, really. I want someone who leads based on firmly-held conviction and who has a clear sense of what’s right and wrong, not necessarily a slick CEO with an Ivy League pedigree.
Anyway, I think it’s funny this thread already has over 500 responses. LMAO!
ddrintn on January 7, 2009 at 12:02 AM
I don’t listen to talking points, yours included. I tend to make up my own mind. She works, and has worked, the business with her husband. You may not like that, but it is a fact. So, once again, I’m LMAON!!!!!!
littleguy on January 7, 2009 at 12:04 AM
She’s is the main contender. She draws a crowd and unending interest on both sides of the aisle. She has made a career of coming from below to end up on top. I think the hullabaloo will only help her.
My only point was and still is that somebody needs to have handled this simple issue of a GED long ago. They know they have a spotlight on them. They know the media are waiting for any misstep. Why give them ammo?
UpinAK and whomever else I’ve offended with my elitist urgings would complain about any statement detracting from the vaunted status which they have ascribed Gov. Palin.
I am impressed with her and expect a lot from her in the future. That does not preclude my being realistic. Maybe people don’t realize that a lot of the mandates regarding any industry related to commerce, travel, interstate transport of goods, etc are a result of 9/11. Longshoremen and stevedores and even truckers who work the docks have all had to clean up their hiring acts to remain in compliance with new federal standards. Oh well.
Levi is certainly smart enough to pass his equivalency exam. He will be able to get the job he wants and needs to support his family. What the **** is wrong with following the same rules that others would be expected to follow?
I’ll take it one step further. I believe in nepotism. I see it as an undeniable reality when family and work intersect. However, the onus is on the family to keep it under wraps enough that others don’t feel overly-slighted. And if an enemy finds out…you’re probably screwed. This goes for cops, judges, HR, managers and all types of employees at every level of the game.
They got caught. They’ll take their lumps. He’ll be back to work in 30-90 days. During that time, he’ll bond with his son. He’ll bond with his wife. He’ll gain some perspective and maturity. And he will probably go on to be protected by the Secret Service at some point in his young life.
Not bad by my elitist standards.
The Race Card on January 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Edited it a little for you.
ddrintn on January 7, 2009 at 12:07 AM
I don’t want another Lincoln. Unlike you I run a business and know what it takes, I want someone qualified to run the country not identify with some of your talking points and run the country into the ground or make stupid decisions because they are unqualified.
I know Palin supporters are in denial of the facts. Wow based on her experience we might as well hire a fisherman to run the country. LMAO!
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Real life is messy. They will do whatever they do. If we want to condemn folks, there will be plenty to pick on.
littleguy on January 7, 2009 at 12:11 AM
How do you know I don’t run a business? Anyway, we need Bill Gates then. He’s had more success than Romney. Romney’s a silver-spooner who built on foundation Dad laid. Palin’s self-made. So?
ddrintn on January 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Hey Pooptech,
“Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish feed him for life”
I’ll take a Sarah the Fisherman as a leader over a Community Organizer, or Mittens Romney the Daddys boy of Big Business.
portlandon on January 7, 2009 at 12:13 AM
… or a farmer, a schoolteacher, or whatever. Your point?
littleguy on January 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I think we’re in general agreement on the issue. Hopefully, they learn from it and avoid similar mistakes in the future. The Guv. and everyone around her are going to have to make sure that they dot every ‘i’ and cross every ‘t’ in everything they do because there will continue to be intense scrutiny on them from critics and attacks from enemies in Alaska and Outside. And I’d like to see her survive it and have success on a national level at some point in the future.
meltenn on January 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM
0bama does not have ANY private sector experience. LMAO!
No thanks necessary, I was glad to fix it for you. You’ve earned a BIG sign tonight, Poppy.
NTXLass on January 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM
I don’t know about Gates: Pop wouldn’t like a college drop-out, right?
littleguy on January 7, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Yeah, that’s true. He lacks that essential Ivy League background.
ddrintn on January 7, 2009 at 12:22 AM
We stopped hiring from the Ivy Leagues about 8 years ago. Those kids couldn’t do anything not set up for them. We’ve been hiring from the UC and CAl State System in CA and those kids come with work experience have a better (not an entitlement) attitude and do good work. We feel we made the right choice.
Sarah isn’t out getting attention for herself the Libs do it for her. They are afraid of her and that is why she gets the rabid response. I don’t believe she’ll run for President. If it’s this bad just because McCain asked her to run (and managed her badly and she still outshone)…why would she want to go through worse for a country that has liberals who act the way ours do…with so much hatred dishonesty and vulgarity… I don’t think she’ll run for anything more than Gov of AK… I don’t blame her… and its our loss.
CCRWM on January 7, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Not so fast there buckwheat.
You forget.
Mayor of Wasilla: 1992 – 2002
Interstate Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: 2006-Current
Chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: 2003-2004 (Brought down Ruedrich on Ethics)
Alaska Gov. : 2006 – Current (And brought down many ethical problems in the Legislature and further range), began the re-neg of the Natural Gas Pipeline and Tax’s in which brought better revenue for the State and Relief to the Oil Companies on prices of oil under a certain price. Balanced and cut the Alaskan Budget.. multiple times.
Vice President Nominee: 2008
Hmmmm what did Mitt do again.. other then be born with a silver spoon in his mouth?
Pop, stop. You are embarrassing yourself and you are usually a good poster.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:08 AM
No I agree that he should get his G.E.D. or Diploma.. it will make him AND Bristol proud and prove they can get thru life and make the goals they established.
But my point was that, for his job… at this time and through out the US, you do not need a High School Diploma. That was it…
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:12 AM
He is a Native of Alaska. Are you going to put down Native Americans? That is the nice thing about being Native up here… you can own a small commercial fishing business and sell the fish to local resturants and venders.
Maybe you shold look into the background. Or did you forget that Todd is Inuit?
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Hmmm, Didn’t Sarah owned a Car Wash? Ohhh … I guess private sector doesn’t apply there.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Interesting, didn’t know she was running for that position. Oh well, it is a poll, so it must be true.
N4646W on January 7, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Yes Bill Gates has extensive private sector experience, much more than Palin. Romney’s success was all his own, his father did not run those companies for him. I understand your jealousy but no need to take it out on Mitt.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Poptech, after finding out you voted for Perot (which isn’t that bad, but still isn’t all that) and Barr (who is a nut.. getting to the point of Ron Paul)… I wonder about your mental stability.
Take a break.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:25 AM
Umm silver spoon there Pop. AMC is his Daddies company…. hmmm wonder who got that money?
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 1:27 AM
Wow no kidding. You people crack me up. Everyone that is against Palin is not a Democrat.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:34 AM
LOL, Palin raised Oil Taxes:
Alaska Raises Tax On Oil Profits To 25% (CBS News, November 17, 2007)
Alaska Gov. Palin signs bill to hike oil tax (Reuters, December 19, 2007)
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Interesting using the left’s way of arguing. Palin supporters all do this nonsense.
The fact is, it was her husband’s business NOT hers.
Is that a joke? LMAO! Certainly that must qualify her. LMAO!
I mean Romney was only the successful CEO of a Billion dollar company. Surely you jest.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:40 AM
hey poop — voting for barr should pretty much disqualify you from any political discussion, esp. anything re: the gop. we get it — you hate Saracuda. now why don’t you stow it, for, say, 2 years — thx. much …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 1:41 AM
Why does being a real Fiscal Conservative Libertarian disqualify me from exposing the false right-wing messiah? I don’t hate Palin, I think she is unqualified, inexperienced and on the wrong side of important issues. I don’t make excuses for her like many do because they are unable to properly research anything themselves.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:44 AM
jackass, she’s a SITTING GOVERNOR. That ALONE gives her more qualification & experience than ANYONE ELSE ON EITHER OF LAST YEAR’S TICKETS. Your ad nauseum ad hominem attacks on her fail to acknowledge that, which makes you a worse than average troll …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 1:47 AM
No it doesn’t McCain has more experience than Palin.
John McCain:
Age: 72
Religion:
- Episcopalian
Education:
- B.S. United States Naval Academy, 1958 (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
- National War College, 1973-1974
Professional Experience:
- Captain, United States Navy, Vietnam, 1958-1981 (23 Years)
- P.O.W. in Vietnam, 1967-1973
- Commander and Executive Officer of the Navy’s largest aviation squadron: VA-174, 1974-1977
- Navy Liaison, U.S. Senate, 1977-1981
Committees:
- Ranking Member, Armed Services Committee
- Former Chairman, Senate Commerce Committee, 1997–2001, 2003–2005
- Former Chairman, Senate Indian Affairs Committee, 1995–1997, 2005–2007
- Member, Commerce, Science & Transportation
- Member, Indian Affairs
- Member, Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security
- Member, Subcommittee on Consumer Affairs, Insurance, and Automotive Safety
- Member, Subcommittee on Interstate Commerce, Trade, and Tourism
- Member, Subcommittee on Science, Technology, and Innovation
- Member, Subcommittee on Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Infrastructure, Safety, and Security
Political Experience:
- U.S. Representative, Arizona, 1982-1986.
- U.S. Senator, Arizona, 1987-present (20 years)
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM
so missing the point. short of a few command stints, John has ZERO executive experience. Saracuda has been the chief executive of a city and a state.
/if you like John’s experience so much, why’d you de facto vote for his opponwent btw — it’s jackasses like you that gave us duh1 — thx. fer nothin’!
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 1:55 AM
No John McCain has executive experience and under war time.
- Captain, United States Navy, Vietnam, 1958-1981 (23 Years)
- Commander and Executive Officer of the Navy’s largest aviation squadron: VA-174, 1974-1977
I didn’t vote for Obama, I voted for Barr. You don’t like, too damn bad. Maybe McCain shouldn’t of supported Amnesty, Global Warming regulation and the Bailouts. Palin also supports all three. Sorry I don’t.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:57 AM
That’s WAS a vote for barry jackass.
“Palin also supports all three”
PROVE it, liar.
and always remember, yer golden boy COULDN’T EVEN BEAT JOHN IN THE PRIMARIES — yet he’s supposed to get our respect fer ‘12? HA!
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:00 AM
and btw MORON — John was a Captain for only his last few years in the Navy — the 23 years spans his entire time in the service …
/some people’s ignorant kids …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:01 AM
Dude.. Pop has gone OVER the insanity clause.
I am done with this reject.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 2:03 AM
No it wasn’t liar, it was a vote for Barr. I know you delusional types can’t get simple logic through your heads and think you can intimidate people with this propaganda but it doesn’t work with me so give it up.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:04 AM
Funny how if you don’t support the right wing messiah all you do is get personally attacked. This is as bad as the huffington post. I bet this sort of tactic convinced many to vote for Palin and McCain, LMAO! Insult and call people crazy who do more research than you, so sad.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM
BARR COULD NOT HAVE WON. TWO PEOPLE AND TWO PEOPLE ONLY COULD HAVE WON. YOUR REFUSAL TO VOTE FOR JOHN WAS DE FACTO A VOTE FOR DUH1.
/annnd, wrongly calling it propoganda just makes you look like an even bigger ass.
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:08 AM
also note u are the ONLY one throwing the term “messiah” around — which btw makes you look as stupid as duh1’s cultists … .
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:09 AM
Sorry that is not true, Barr was on the ballot in enough states to win the electoral college. Your childish propaganda doesn’t bully anyone into voting for crappy candidates. It is sad you keep trying.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Barr was the very DEFINITION of a crappy candidate.
how many votes did barr wind up with? 2 mil.? u already KNOW how many EVs he got …
/wotta bad joke …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:18 AM
That is nice, that is your opinion. He was right on the issues and that is what I voted for. Sorry if you cannot get that through your head. I do my own research so I don’t embarrass myself like others here have by believing propaganda from others.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:21 AM
People should be free to vote for who they want. People should be free to vote for nooone, if they don’t like any of the candidates. I’ll admit I thought about voting for Barr a good bit.
therightwinger on January 7, 2009 at 2:22 AM
“therightwinger on January 7, 2009 at 2:22 AM”
well, that ignores the fact that here and now in this country, when it comes to a national general election, one of two individuals is GOING to win. any vote for anyone else needs to be factored into this calculus …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM
Only because too many people think like you and not outside the two party box. People can vote for whoever they want.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:39 AM
poop, u push propaganda worse than anyone else so again, u stowing it for a year or two would be just fine …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:39 AM
What’s the matter sniveling leftists? Is a little woman scaring the bejesus out of you because she’s attained things, on her own, that you would NEVER attain in 10 lifetimes?
it’s past time that the pansy-assed RINOs were tossed out on their heads before you allow the WHOLE country to go to hell.
nelsonknows on January 7, 2009 at 2:42 AM
the moment a 3rd party puts forth a candidate who’s not a COMPLETE LOSER he might get considered viable — until then, the two party “box” is one thing that keeps us from not being italy or austria …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 2:42 AM
Prove it because I am not going anywhere.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 2:52 AM
yer resume vomiting, jackass …
/fyi u don’t “intimidate” me in the slightest, yer a moron, selfish hatah — like way too many others in today’s political scene — take yer multi-loser candidates and piss off …
Buckaroo on January 7, 2009 at 3:03 AM
Yeah, I’d like that too, but unfortunately that looks to be like exactly what we’re going to get for the next four years. Oh well — at least now it’s finally my turn to put the old “Don’t blame me, I voted for the other guy” sticker on my car bumper.
By the way, other than a brief teaching stint at the U of A Law School, Bill Clinton also had ZERO private sector experience. Was he therefore unqualified for the job or was that all trumped by his pedigree? Conversely, W. has considerable private sector experience, but I would wager you’d rate him an abject failure as president — right? Sorry — I’m confused. I’m just a lowly public-university graduate. Me no understand so good. ;)
I’m really weary of the elitist liberals looking down their pointy noses at Gov. Palin because she attended more than one school and none of them were snooty enough. Lots of Gen Xers have transferred schools — I’m one of them. It’s no reflection at all on a person’s intelligence or abilities or work ethic. Better get used to it, because this generation is finally coming into power. Anyway, didn’t Obama attend two colleges himself? How come that’s OK but Gov. Palin gets scorned for it?
I also really resent the notion that those of us who graduated from public, state institutions have somehow received a lesser education than those who attended Princeton and Yale. An Ivy League degree does not guarantee a person the keys to the kingdom. Education is what you make of it, and it’s just as possible to get a first-rate education at the University of Idaho as it is at Harvard. Besides which, what really counts is what you DO with what you’ve learned, and I’m satisfied that Gov. Palin has and is putting her education to good use.
NoLeftTurn on January 7, 2009 at 3:08 AM
You are absolutely confused. I am not a liberal. I never voted for Clinton but he was Governor for 8 years, I did vote for Bush twice, he was good the first term and not great the second (the last two years). Bush had an excellent resume:
George W. Bush:
Age: 55 (When Elected President)
Religion:
- United Methodist
Education:
- B.A. History, Yale, 1968
- M.B.A. Harvard Business School, 1975
Professional Experience:
- First Lieutenant, Texas Air National Guard, 1968-1973
- Freelance Landman, Midland Texas, 1975-1976
- Senior Executive, Arbusto Energy, 1977-1982
- CEO, Bush Exploration, 1982-1984
- CEO, Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation, 1984-1986
- Member, Board of Directors, Harken Energy Corporation, 1986-1993
- Managing General Partner, Texas Rangers Baseball Team, 1989-1994
Political Experience:
- Governor, Texas, 1995-2003
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 3:29 AM
I don’t appreciate being called a “sniveling leftist”. I’m about the furthest thing from that. Been a registered Republican since I’ve been of voting age.
Also, I’m sick of hearing about kicking RINOS out of the party. The idea is to grow the party. At the center should be conservative ideals (not what we’ve gotten for the past eight years). But there should be room for all kinds of people in the GOP, not just a certain mindset, or a certain set of views.
therightwinger on January 7, 2009 at 4:22 AM
So why did you respond ? That proves your a sniveling leftist.
the_nile on January 7, 2009 at 6:14 AM
So if there is a Romney/Palin ticket or a Palin/Romney ticket would that guarantee that Poptech’s head would explode? That’s only promising if you know you would be around to see it. therightwinger ignores questions so we know this is the chance to showcase his/her vast superiority and we are just damn lucky to read the posts. All this venom for a person that is doing the best she can at the job she has. Interesting.
Cindy Munford on January 7, 2009 at 6:37 AM
Palin/Romney? What a joke. No company would hire Palin to run it. The best she can is NOT good enough to be POTUS. She is clueless on important issues and on the wrong side of others.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 7:09 AM
I can’t stomach the smug little satisfaction in your tone, Allah. Are you happy now? Can you stop this nonstop job of highlighting every smear job against her? I am sure now that she is not viable, your candidate Mitt Romney’s path is all roses. At what cost though?
You are acting like such a despicable scoundrel, I hope you go to hell.
promachus on January 7, 2009 at 7:17 AM
You base your logic on Palin based on where she attended college. Based on your logic, both Romney and Caroline Kennedy are more qualified than Palin because they went to schools that rate well in US News and World report. This is ridiculous because it ignores the circumstances. Both Mittens and Princess Caroline came from famous, well-connected families, which is why they got into school. As for Mittens’ business experience, it was basically the family business that he ran. It’s nice that he did something unlike C. Kennedy, but Mittens definitely isn’t a self-made man like Bill Gates.
As for HBS, prestige and name plays a big role in who gets into these schools as well. And frankly while name still matters some of the big name programs are getting bad reps. Here in Chicago, apparently some of the students at Kellogg got drunk at a reception and managed to trash part of one of the Science and Industry Museum.
I know… Lincoln was a pretty awful President… sarcasm off. Frankly, I prefer self-made men to elites for President because they understand real people.
As for your criticism in genera, it is getting quite ridiculous, and is crowding out legitimate discussions about Palin’s qualifications and future. Are you sure you aren’t an Axelrod astroturfer?
Illinidiva on January 7, 2009 at 7:31 AM
And yet somehow this clueless woman has got you dedicating hours and hours of your time trying to find ways to destroy her????
Perhaps you did not notice, the people of Alaska did hire the woman and she has done a pretty good job. One of three or four states not begging the government for a bailout. Funny how they are the only state not going into debt this year either.
Your generic thinking on whether or not spending went up as a judge to whether or not she is a good governor shows that you have no clue what it means to govern.
People expect services from their government. Good roads, good schools, public safety… all of these things the types of things government should be spending their money on.
When revenue is pouring into the state coffers, the idea of Palin hoarding that money is ridiculous. She needs to be spending that money on the people of Alaska and their quality of life in Alaska.
She also needs to be setting aside money for a rainy day. Amazingly, the governor of Alaska did just that.
Spending the money wisely is what is required and she had done that.
Palin has improved the quality of life in Alaska, it is now a safer state to live in.
Palin has returned billions borrowed by previous administration to the rainy day funds.
Palin also took some of the money and gave it directly back to the people so they could improve their quality of life.
Palin even went back to the state legislators that were spending money on ridiculous garbage and cut $500 million worth of duplicate stuff or told them would have to wait for their pet projects.
Your generic “she increased spending” garbage does not fly. Of course she did! Gobs of money was pouring into the state coffers. She spent it on the people of Alaska, she saved some of it for times like now and she gave it back to the people.
Palin has got this governing thing down. Governing is about the people. They are the top priority. You got to listen to the people.
Palin’s job is to make sure that the government works for the people instead of the people working for the government.
For heaven’s sake if the government has the money they should spend it wisely on the people and keep planning for the future.
Government hoarding money is not good government any more than government spending money they don’t have is good government.
kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 7:41 AM
Dan Fagan and Rebecca Palsha speak for neo-liberals. Don’t employ bright, energetic American young men when the jobs could be given to aliens, for example.
GED, Levi go get it! Take the test now. If you don’t pass at first, at least you find exactly where you need to study and learn for success. And quit paying attention to the media. Never base your life decisions on an emotional response to media criticism. There is no easy way out of difficult circumstances; if you have a great job, do all that is necessary to deserve keeping it. Best wishes to a young American father who is willing and eager to work through apprenticeship to provide for his family!
maverick muse on January 7, 2009 at 7:50 AM
There must be an acceptable way for a chosen apprentice to complete his GED online within the first year of apprenticeship.
Read job descriptions requiring this or that certification to be completed within so many months upon hire.
Beware of misjudging legalities, just as many misjudged an apprentice’s legal responsibilities to be certified prior to completion of apprenticeship as was the media criticism leveled against “Joe The Plumber” employed by another.
maverick muse on January 7, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Wow, Pop is still going at it. I wonder what would happen if her used all this PDS rage for good, instead of libertarian evil….
The world may never know!
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM
McCain the Geezer had electile dysfunction.
He got a prescription for some ViagSarah.
But America said, not now, I have a
headwallet-ache.jgapinoy on January 7, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Don’t go there. PDS is running rampant… and you could be the next to become Troll worthy.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM
No she should be lowering taxes not increasing spending. Clueless populist rhetotic like this is why Bush kept expanding the size of government. Maybe you like Socialism but I don’t. I am so sick of the nanny staters in the Republican party they need to go join their good friends on the other side. Palin is another big government populist Republican who speaks a lot of empty rhetoric, does token things and then makes government bigger through more bloated bureaucracy to appease the economic illiterates who want to “help” people. Not with my goddamn tax money. Frickin Socialists.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Todd is part Yu’pik, not Inuit.
Snowed In on January 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Which is Inuit. Thanks for updating. It is like saying Eskimo…. which about every damn tourist says.
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 2:06 PM
You just got talked out of the other Blog headline.. do you really want it to come into here too?
upinak on January 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM
And this is the SOUL of your problem.
You are WAY to focused on whether a candidate would be the best person to govern with little if any emphasis on ELECTABILITY.
Obama has less experience than Sarah, and yet HE will be POTUS. Why? Because Dems are shrewd and know you have to get elected first. Worry about the governing part later.
If you focus 100% on what you perceive as governing competence, you will NEVER actually get to govern.
This is the heart of almost all your issues with Palin.
It’s GOP people like you that keep us from losing, assuming you are a Republican.
You have to get elected FIRST. Competency is worth NOTHING if you never get a chance to use it and improve on it.
Sapwolf on January 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Correction.
Sapwolf on January 7, 2009 at 2:36 PM
It’s official. Poptech has PDS.
He is wasting away precious time in his life, a life where he apparently owns a business, that I’m assuming has employees, possibly co-owners, customers, vendors, etc.
And yet, his time spent in a campaign to bring down a good woman with mostly lies, half-truths, old stuff long since debunked.
It is not only pathological, but unprofessional. The people you work with deserve better. Maybe even your family deserves better.
I’m divorced. I have time to burn for other interests. Sarah, Bobby, the GOP, Church, reading, running, work, etc.
But Poptech, you need to take care of business.
You are really starting to seem to ‘get off’ on this PDS stuff. Stop yourself. It’s getting disturbing and embarrasing assuming you are not a troll.
I happened to think that Palin was not ready to be POTUS, but that she would have been a wonderful VP, and would have been a great worker for McCain if elected.
You don’t want to go PDS and dedicate your life to destroying someone else. Pick the man you want elected and boost them up, don’t tear others down.
Sarah inspires as Obama does. This is actually a very important component of leadership. You should have seen the young women and girls at the Palin rally I went too. Can’t they have someone to look up to as an inspiration or hero?
Sapwolf on January 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Palin doesn’t need to be a Senator … in fact … it’s better if she’s not.
First – Sarah Palin was THE most explosive thing to hit the campaign trail this last election cycle. That’s not even a debatable point. She has name recognition that will not be lost – even if she tried to keep a low profile between now and 2012 (which she’s not).
Second – Sarah’s greatest attraction is the fact that she’s an outsider. Why would she join the comedy of mediocrity known as the United States Senate? Look – in four years – the “Senate Brand” is going to be polluted beyond recognition. We’ll have Carolyn Kennedy (a joke really) as a Senator from one of the most influential states in the Union. We’ll have this new dude whathisname from Illinois – who was appointed by a criminal. We already have Harry Reid – a clueless idiot.
Sarah should RUN FROM ANY THOUGHT OF BEING A SENATOR. Senators now run this country – two in the White House (BHO and Joe “Chia Pet” Biden). One as Secretary of State (Hillary) … and a whole grunch on Capital Hill. Believe me – in four years – Senators will be seen as a part of the problem – not a part of the solution.
Go Sarah!
HondaV65 on January 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Palin supports Socialism:
“We’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” – Sarah Palin
This is the last thing we need in the Republican party.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Sorry- got a job, just got and could not respond sooner.
Speaking of clueless populist rhetoric, let’s examine these tax cuts you are demanding Palin produce…
The number one tax that most state residents pay our each year in most states is a state income tax.
In Alaska, residents don’t pay a state income tax. So Palin cannot cut a tax that does not exist.
Usually the number two tax that most state residents pay each year in most states is a property tax.(although sometimes it sales taxes, but most people don’t realize how much they pay in sales taxes because they do not track it. But we will get to the sales tax)
In Alaska, residents do not pay property tax to their state government. In fact, in most states property taxes are imposed by local governments. Obviously, Palin cannot cut property taxes imposed by the state government that she runs because the state does not charge property taxes.
The number three tax that most state residents pay is sales tax. The state of Alaska does not charge any of its residents any sales tax. Once again, Palin cannot cut sales taxes because the state does not charge any sales taxes to its residents.
We move onto number four highest paid taxes that most state residents have to pay a fuel tax added directly at the pump. You are in luck, because the state of Alaska does charge a fuel tax added directly at the pump. However, the fuel tax that the state government charges in Alaska is the lowest in the nation at .08 a gallon. My state charges .329 a gallon and now the Dems run everything, the rumor has it is going up by .07 a gallon.
Back to .08 a gallon. Palin could have cut this tax, however she did something better. Since most driving age individuals use around 15 gallons of gas a week, cutting that .08 does not add up to much. It would save only the individuals that drive $62.40 a year.
Palin probably could have done this and not really substantially helped the residents in her state.
So Palin did something better to help the residents of her state. She gave every man, woman and child an extra $1200 cash. The children get that check too. For an average family of four saving them $62.40 in a year does help much. Giving them $4800 this past year really does help them.
So all of this goes to prove that your statement saying that she should have cut their taxes is nothing more than CLUELESS POPULIST RHETORIC.
You obviously had no clue that the state of Alaska generates their government dollars from petroleum and not from taxes.
Clearly Palin could not cut taxes where taxes do not exist. Palin directly helped each individual in her state by giving them cash from excess money.
Palin can also give money pack to the people by improving the services that they need. She can give the people back their money by improving public safety and hiring more police officers and state troopers…she did that. She can improve driving conditions by buying more snow plows…she did that. She can improve their health care…she did that. She can improve their quality of water and sewer systems…she did that. She can improve their educational systems…she did that.
All of these things she is doing for the people of Alaska also increases spending.
She also stashed billions away in a savings account for a rainy day when fuel prices are not as high, like now.
What Palin did for the people of Alaska is put them first. The needs of the people come before the needs of the government.
What Palin did was good governing.
Your generic rhetoric of “cutting spending” and “cutting taxes” is not always good fiscal conservative government.
Recognizing that the money belongs to the people and treating that money as if it belongs to the people by being smart about how you spend it, is good FISCAL CONSERVATISM.
kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Clearly you have no clue whatsoever about Alaska. Absolutely clueless.
I cannot believe you actually say you run a business. Do you realize that your suppliers make a profit when they sell to you? You then “develop” those supplies into something that you sell and you make a profit.
Are you actually claiming that the people of own the supplies they sell to you should not make a profit?
The people of Alaska own the natural resources(oil, natural gas, etc) underground. They sell that at a profit to the oil companies. The oil companies develop it and then sell it at a profit.
That is capitalism, not socialism!
I cannot believe you actually made this foolish statement and think you are right about it.
Good grief.
kcarpenter on January 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Of course she can cut taxes, by cutting taxes to or aiding local governments to cut property taxes.
LMAO! That is populist rhetoric because it is WELFARE! Cutting taxes is fiscally conservative not writing welfare checks. You are so blindly populist, you don’t even know what socialism is! What about the property tax payer? Why should some renter get a state check for doing nothing?
YOU ARE FRICKING CLUELESS ABOUT SOCIALISM.
To come here and claim welfare checks are fiscally conservative is beyond ignorant.
Cutting taxes and cutting spending is FISCALLY CONSERVATISM you idiot. Palin supporters are dumb as rocks.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Economic illiterates! Collective Ownership is NOT CAPITALISM.
Yes I run a business not my neighborhood. Palin supporters are dumb as rocks.
Poptech on January 7, 2009 at 11:55 PM
The Alaskan Socialists have proven my point about the Palin Collective, you are all economically illiterate.
“Cutting taxes and cutting spending is not good fiscal conservatism” – ROFLMAO!!! (I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair)
You people need to stay the hell out of economics.
Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Golly, I better go sell all my mutual fund shares, lest I be called a socialist.
Snowed In on January 8, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Your mutual fund wasn’t created by the state and is subject to the market.
Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Alaska was a territory of the United States before it became a state. In the early days of the country, before the U.S. constitution was written Congress had worked out a territorial system for the areas such as the Louisiana Purchase, the Oregon Country or Alaska that wanted to be part of the United States. They had to first prove that the area had a large enough resident population and a way to sustain itself economically. Until then, Congress would hold those areas in a sort of second class status, as a territory.
SNIP (but the enire page is really worth reading.)
To become a state, the residents of a territory had to persuade Congress that they were law-abiding, that they could run a state responsibly, and that they could plan and build for the future of the new state. Alaskans had already proved that it could in the statehood campaign from 1946 to 1958.
The population of Alaska was small in 1959 when it became a state – barely over 225,000 (c. 45,000 Native). Congress did not think that such a small population could generate enough tax dollars to pay for state government. Therefore Congress included two measures in the statehood act to help pay for the new state. The first involved federal land in Alaska. Sixty percent of the land in Alaska – 225 million acres – was set aside as federal land. By the first measure, the federal government gave to Alaska 90% of the profits from mineral lease sales on the federal land in Alaska. Oil is one of the most important minerals in Alaska, and to this day wherever oil or gas leases are sold for exploration or development on federal land, 90% of the revenue is given to Alaska.
http://www.akhistorycourse.org/articles/article.php?artID=138
According to the state constitution, Alaskan residents all own the drilling rights to their land. It is a condition of their statehood.
chunderroad on January 8, 2009 at 3:25 AM
Under Alaska’s constitution, the state’s natural resources belong to its people. Jay Hammond, Republican governor of Alaska in the 1970s, took this provision seriously. When oil began flowing from the North Slope, he pushed for royalties to be shared among Alaska’s citizens. Many battles later, the legislature agreed to a deal: 75 percent of the state’s oil revenue would go to the government as a replacement for taxes. The remaining 25 percent would flow into the Alaska Permanent Fund, and would be invested on behalf of all Alaskans equally.
Economist Vernon Smith, a Nobel laureate and libertarian scholar at the Cato Institute, has called it “a model that governments all over the world would be well-advised to copy.” Here is an opinion piece in the WSJ 2003 where he advises the Iraqi government could implement this policy.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004479
chunderroad on January 8, 2009 at 3:41 AM
There you go- you just proved you are a liberal. You purposely misquoted me. Just cut a word or two here and there and bingo you get the statement you want.
Clearly what you did was dishonest. You do not want to debate, you want to insult.
I am guessing that you are advocating for the entire state of Alaska be tossed from the union because the people collectively own their own resources in their state.
Still you believe that is Palin’s fault. Here is a clue. Palin was not born yet when Alaska wrote its constitution or became a state.
kcarpenter on January 8, 2009 at 5:57 AM
Oh I’m sorry, increasing spending and increasing taxes is good fiscal conservative government. LMAO! Nothing like clueless socialists.
Poptech on January 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
chunderroad on January 8, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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