Homeland Security and Michael Yon: It’s On

posted at 11:15 am on January 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Michael Yon has provided us a unique and desperately needed perspective in two theaters of war when the rest of the media chose to end embedding with the troops.  Today, he brings us another perspective on Homeland Security.  When a friend of Yon’s from Thailand attempted to enter the US, she got a rather unpleasant introduction to America — and Yon himself got caught up in the bureaucratic wrangling:

Problems began when she entered the airport in Bangkok.  Aew had a one-way ticket to America, because we would travel back in the direction of the war before she would go home, but we did not know our exact itinerary, so she hadn’t bought a round-trip ticket back to Thailand.  Before boarding the flight from Thailand to America, Northwest Airlines required Aew to buy a return ticket for 53,905 Thai bhat, or about $1,200 for a return ticket, else they would not let her board the flight.  Aew paid by her credit card and pushed on.  Understandably, it raises suspicions when a foreign national doesn’t have a round-trip ticket in an age of massive illegal immigration — even if that person is an educated professional with a home and career, and even though Aew has a ten-year visa to the United States.  Nevertheless, Aew paid approximately $1,200 for the return ticket, and so now had a return ticket.  …

While the U.S. Immigration officer named Knapp rifled through all her belongings, Aew sat quietly.  She was afraid of this man, who eventually pushed a keyboard to Aew and coerced her into giving up the password to her e-mail address.  Officer Knapp read through Aew’s e-mails that were addressed to me, and mine to her.  Aew would tell me later that she sat quietly, but “Inside I was crying.”  She had been so excited to finally visit America.  America, the only country ever to coerce her at the border.  This is against everything I know about winning and losing the subtle wars.   This is against everything I love about the United States.  We are not supposed to behave like this.  Aew would tell me later that she thought she would be arrested if she did not give the password.

The Government of the United States was reading the private e-mails of a U.S. citizen (me).  The Department of “Homeland Security” was at work, intimidating visitors with legitimate visas.  They had at least 24 hours to check her out before she landed in the United States.  What kind of security is this?  The Department of Homeland Security was at this moment more like the Department of Intimidation.

Officer Knapp called my phone as I was driving to the Orlando airport.  I was going to be there two hours early to make sure I would be on time, so that she had a warm welcome to my country.  But instead, Knapp was busy detaining Aew in Minneapolis and was on my cell phone asking all types of personal questions that he had no business asking.  Sensing that Aew was in trouble, I answered his questions.  Mr. Knapp was a rude smart aleck.  The call is likely recorded and that recording would bear out my claims.  This officer of the United States government, a grown man, had coerced personal information from a Thai woman who weighs 90 pounds.  I asked Aew later why she gave him the e-mail password, and she answered simply, “I was afraid,” and “I thought I would be arrested.”

What could I say to alleviate any of this?  Could I say, “This is the U.S., nothing to be afraid of.”?  The world already sees us as senseless bullies.  Aew might have been detained indefinitely; even I was concerned that the Department of Homeland Security might detain Aew for no reason.  Essentially, she had no rights.  They had already coerced her e-mail password out of her head through intimidation.

I trust and respect Yon, and I’m certain that he has reported his experiences here accurately, from his perspective.  Anyone who deals with law enforcement at any level occasionally runs across those who believe themselves to be the biggest fish in their little pond, and do not brook questions or criticism without a heaping dose of scorn on those whom they purportedly serve.  In my previous career, I worked with law enforcement and emergency agencies all across the nation, and while most were pleasant and professional, I could have written a book about the exceptions.

However, it’s important to note that we are getting one side of this story.  Homeland Security exists to check each entry into the US closely for any indication of potential threat.  Ninety-pound people can be terrorists, too, and even people from friendly Thailand might have some bad intentions for entering the country.  Obviously, Knapp didn’t know Aew like Michael knows her, which is part of the reason for screening on entry.  I’d bet that the one-way ticket flagged her for further review in Minneapolis.

The part about the e-mail does seem quite disturbing.  Unless they had some tangible reason to suspect her of illegal activities, Homeland Security doesn’t have any business demanding her password for her Internet account.  Using the revamped FISA legislation, they could track her communications (even with a US citizen like Michael), but she should not have had to cough up her password to gain entry into the US.  At any rate, it’s a waste of time for Homeland Security to demand it, as Aew will have almost certainly changed the password by now, and probably did so immediately after being released.

Michael is correct in stating that we should treat visitors better than how he describes Aew’s ordeal, and that there are some legitimate questions surrounding her treatment.  It sounds like Aew ran into an officious, ego-tripping dink, and Lord knows we have enough of them in the government.  Hopefully, Officer Knapp is a limited exception to the rule of professionalism at Homeland Security.

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I am constantly amazed at the kind of unprofessional behavior people – both in government and out – are allowed to get away with.

Farmer_Joe on January 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Great recommendation, but to buy a ticket, you don’t need to prove your citizen status. That’s something airports check, not airlines.

Maybe they should start that, but unless they see any financial gain in doing so, I doubt they will.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Even if you don’t need to prove your citizenship at time of purchase, a simple message saying “citizens of these countries …. are advised that proof of return-flight is required for this itinerary.” (I’m sure this determination is made by the computer system when the passenger checks-in with their passport for the international flight; I’ve been automatically flagged for extra security screening simply by being re-booked on another airline when my flight was delayed.)

vermillionsky on January 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM

You do NOT give up your rights when you step into an airport.. but they coerce you by saying that if you don’t do what they want, you can’t travel.

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Are you seriously contending that the United States government doesn’t have the right to search people entering the country?

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Actually, it has.

Appeals court upholds search of laptop at LAX

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Dam, thanks… I have not traveled outside the country for a couple of years… thats good to know.

I probably got away with it 2 weeks ago because I was traveling INTERNALY to the US (and I know they were asking because I had Checked my sidearm… so I was a bit suspicious)… but they were polite and took ‘NO’ for an answer.

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Mr Morrissey: First: Thank you VERY MUCH posting Mr Yon’s account. You gave him a much wider audience than he would otherwise have had.

However, permit me to quibble: Your, in my view, equivocating apologia only muddles the issue and at least partially vitiates the impact of what Yon wrote.

Suggestion: Next time, why not let DHS defend themselves…? After all, I think they are “big boys and girls” and don’t need you to carry their water by making excuses for them.

For a more robust citizen’s-eye-view of DHS thuggery, here is a link to a post by a lady who knows the score and calls them as she sees them on the same kind of issue:
Airport Animals Gone Wild

sanantonian on January 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM

What do you say when you’re outside of the US? And even in the US you can still travel, you may just need to find alternate means, like walking or taking your bike.

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Dam, thanks… I have not traveled outside the country for a couple of years… thats good to know.

I probably got away with it 2 weeks ago because I was traveling INTERNALY to the US (and I know they were asking because I had Checked my sidearm… so I was a bit suspicious)… but they were polite and took ‘NO’ for an answer.

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Yeah, you may want to try traveling without a laptop. Not only can they search them, but they can also detain them.

vermillionsky on January 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Those are good points. I don’t know why an airline wouldn’t do that. It would surely help keep someone from being flagged like this, and that alone makes for a better trip.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM

The thread’s headline prompted the idea that Yon is going to embed with Homeland Security for his next news project.

Knapp was busy detaining Aew in Minneapolis

Minnesota is certainly gaining in the horrible reputation department, a top state to avoid visiting if you’re a stranger.

The biggest threats are no doubt coming through the open border from Canada or from Mexico, less likely to bother passing through points of legal entry.

The skeptic wondered about the Hamas leader’s adult son converted to Christianity and relocated in SAN DIEGO. Skeptically, it wouldn’t matter where he relocated. But San Diego certainly has the huge illegal population living on the outskirts of town and within as well, the immediate access from open border areas not so far from town, the seaport shipping container industry and the military installations to threaten with terrorism.

Homeland Security certainly has its work cut out for them. As with any executive enforcement agency, they’d better be taking issue with Knapp now that a formal complaint has been lodged regarding his abusive misconduct. GWB would have no problem getting Knapp on charges. But the ball will be in Obama’s court by the time red-tape bureaucratic measures play out. To date, the American domestic experience with fascism exercised by Democrat leaders takes the cake “hands down.”

maverick muse on January 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM

I probably got away with it 2 weeks ago because I was traveling INTERNALY to the US (and I know they were asking because I had Checked my sidearm… so I was a bit suspicious)… but they were polite and took ‘NO’ for an answer.

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Why did you check your sidearm? It’s your constitutional right to bear arms, no different than your right not to be searched without a warrant.

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Yeah, you may want to try traveling without a laptop. Not only can they search them, but they can also detain them.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Basicly? Impossible… I test software for a living. The information is Proprietary, Private, and sometimes even covered by Security Classifications.

Can’t say who I’m working for… but a Pissing contest between them, and the TSA would be… fun to watch…

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I trust Yon on this. Hopefully, Knapp will face professional consequences for his lack of professionalism.

Christien on January 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Fellow tester!

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Why did you check your sidearm? It’s your constitutional right to bear arms, no different than your right not to be searched without a warrant.

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Maybe because I’m not an idiot? Airliners are Private Property, and you CAN have rules about Firearms on YOUR property… as long as its posted.

Data information is a whole other realm.

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Unfortunately, this type of behavior is the exception rather than the rule. We seem to employ some of the stupidest and meanest people in BCIS.

SWLiP on January 5, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Federal law requires such provisions, not the airlines.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Airliners are Private Property, and you CAN have rules about Firearms on YOUR property… as long as its posted.

Data information is a whole other realm.

I think the physical verification that your laptop is actually a laptop would also fall into the same area.

Btw, I’m a professional software tester as well. Based on the implications of your “pissing contest” comment I suspect it may even be the same company.

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM

[long stories deleted; I've always had the most trouble coming back into the USA.]

They (TSA/HS/Immigration/Customs) are fixated on what’s been done in the past that is also documented in their procedures. Someone doing something, anything, different is always going to run into trouble, because they “don’t fit”, and the imagination of the (*) is to think that they’ve found an evil-doer.

Carrying a MoH is definitely “doing something different”. RIP, General/ Congressman/ Governor/ Foss. It was an honor to meet you. Semper Fi!

As much as possible, now, I drive instead of fly.

htom on January 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Some of the TSA jobs are barely above minimum wage, so you’re getting quite a few malcontents who feel powerless about their situation and use their job to bully others.

Illinidiva on January 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

In 1992 I was traveling through LAX on my way to Germany. I was 8 mos pregnant & traveling with an 18 mo child in a stroller and I had a military passport/orders. Apparently this looked very suspicious to the TSA agent, who of course only wanted to do her job and do it well. Hahahahahaha. With only about 40-50 people in line behind us waiting to get through security they stopped everyone from coming through the metal detector while they first used the wand on me, then frisked me, then gave me the third degree about what I was hiding under my clothes. She wasn’t satisfied that it was a BABY. She made me pull my shirt up in front of the now huge gathering crowd of onlookers. She decided that my huge belly was clearly a ruse and announced that I would need to be taken in back for a strip search. When my mother-in-law started screaming at the top of her lungs and people in line were screaming and her co-workers were telling her she had lost her marbles her supervisor finally showed up to pull her off me and send me on my way with an apology. By the time I reached Germany I still wasn’t sure what had happened or why. I didn’t even set off the metal detector, nothing had triggered anything from my bags. Just my pregnant belly looked suspicious…and my blond hair and green eyes in LAX. Go figure. I always thought she was just having a really bad day. I think at that time the basic requirements for that job were a GED and the ability to fill out the application. I would have been really ticked off if I thought that she had an IQ higher than a box of rocks.
A God complex in an agent is a dangerous thing no matter what the IQ level and makes everyone look bad.

mauioriginal on January 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I take Yon’s account of this episode as realistic.

Law enforcers left to their own devices allow their good intentions to create a fiasco or even a horrible situation as occurred outside of Eldorado last year.

If Knapp isn’t reprimanded and “retrained” then where is the sense in condemning border security agents with prison for actually being confronted by illegal militants and responding in defense with a good offense to ward off the criminal’s reprisal in return, or for prosecuting our military troops for engaging according to training in door-to-door search missions against homicide bombing terrorists and their enabling neighbors?

“Proportional” is making the rounds in Gaza discussions. It certainly applies in Obama’s sharing scenario. With Obama, be it wealth or guilt, the world awaits his response to inequities.

maverick muse on January 5, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Some of the TSA jobs are barely above minimum wage,

I’ve seen their employment ads for the local international airport offering a very decent living wage.

People with a chip on their shoulder refuse to accept jobs that would keep them at a safe distance from public relations. The opportunity to abuse attracts them. Their abusive misconduct needs its own IT automatic monitoring control.

maverick muse on January 5, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I’m SO SICK of all you mamby-pamby-feel-good-perfect-world-politicaly-correct-limp-wristed-American-hating-far-left-leaning-wack-job-Bush-is-horrible-forget-the-past(9/11)-cares what the world thinks-second guessers.

If the Cop screwed up, report his abuse and fire him.

But we live in a different world, a new reality, we MUST constantly work to “connect dots”. I recently took a one way trip to Houston from NJ the day after Christmas on AirTran. I was selected for additional screening because I bought a one way, I assume, cause I do NOT look Arab. I did not care, I waited, got asked aa few questions and searched, was on my way and wished a Happy New Year.

Screw ANYONE who bitches about what we must go thru now, these are the SAME MORONS who probably bitched BEFORE 9/11 about lines and delays and violations and the SAME ONES who blamed Bush for 9/11 saying he / we didn’t do enough…

WELL NOW WE ARE, GET USE TO IT MORONS!

If we would only allow our agents to DETAIN AND SEARCH and PROFILE the REAL possible suspects them maybe it would be easier for Americans to move about… But the same lame dork PC crowd yells bloody murder when any thought of COMMON SENSE RACIAL PROFILING is mentioned, so BUCK UP and SHUT UP… It’s the world that we have ALLOWED because there is NO FEAR of America. If we were HATED by the World they wouldn’t F-with us… That’s the way it SHOULD be, but you can kiss that gone for the next four years of “love, peace and hopenchange”.

I AM sorry for the woman, and would love to hear the “other” side, but really don’t care. If we had more like Officer Knapp maybe, just maybe 9/11 would have been stopped.

Mark Garnett on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

So, in the event of another 9/11, will everyone say that they understand because the DHS officers need to be polite or will they wonder why DHS did not do its job?

Kafir on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Sheesh, at 1:11 PM I meant to write that Yon’s account reflects the rule rather than the exception, based on my experience and feedback from others.

SWLiP on January 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM

to all those that think this is not a Bush failure. He signed the bill, He allowed the union in. the quasi-rep Bush sacrificed rep principles for a big government, union based system to protect us and then you all wonder how this happens. Homeland security was a politcial formation to appease the anger/fearful population over the failure of the democratic and rep admin and congresses over the last 20 years. They dropped the ball, they allow our country to be attacked. And instead of placing blame and fixing the problem they gave us a bloated, ineffective government dept that likes to bully 90pd women. Get it yet?

Homeland security= epic fail
Tarp bailout= epic fail
8 years of WOT and still no victory.

unseen on January 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Kafir:

I don’t see an inconsistency with being both polite and professional.

SWLiP on January 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM

As a naturalized citizen, and having seen the INS, Customs, and now HS up close, I can attest with great accuracy that 85% of all agents of these entities are complete douchebags.

• They revel in the “us vs. them” mentality.
• They hate their jobs
• They especially hate visitors to the US.
• They love to bully and intimidate.
• They are collectively a bunch of malignant mediocre unionized pricks one stepped removed from the UAW.

epluribusunum on January 5, 2009 at 11:43

Most agents of the FBI (and most US intelligence agencies besides the CIA) are extremely professional people.

But, yeah, immigration and Homeland Security are mainly douchebags. And the ones who work at airports are the worst. The only human being more irritating than a rent-a-cop is a glorified rent-a-cop. Giving those numbskulls federal badges was a travesty.

And it’s important to remember that the immature slugs who are ‘bullies’ to people when they know they can get away with it are the same people who will fold most readily under any kind of pressure. They don’t “treat all borders the same” at all; they’re actually MORE likely to be a-holes to clearly low-risk travelers than they would be when it comes to anyone who could potentially get them in trouble for ‘profiling’.

logis on January 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM

So, in the event of another 9/11, will everyone say that they understand because the DHS officers need to be polite or will they wonder why DHS did not do its job?

Kafir on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

This is Yon’s point.

In the world of security, false positives are just as dangerous as false negatives, because false positives leads to false negatives.

Clearly this was a negative case. It shouldn’t take any DHS Agent hours to determine that.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I used to travel internationally with frequency and noticed immediately after Ronald Reagan became president, the tone in immigration changed dramatically. It was obviously from the top. People welcomed you with a smile and actually said “welcome home” upon seeing the US passport. Prior to this it was a frown or curt order to go to that line, or move ahead. It is pre-Reagan again and the TSA is a reflection of the highest office in the nation. It is the duty of the PResident to set the tone in bureacracies under his watch. Bush’s advisors have not done him well. This year returning from “Thailand” interestingly enough, a grumpy black TSA man in the Atlanta airport watching the screening gate, groused gruffley, “why are you setting off the bell?” Being in law enforcement myself I tried to lighten him up with, “it might be the metal plate in my head.” That didn’t set well and I should have known better. We finally found that my belt was doing it and I got through but not without an image of TSA & the USA that left a bad taste. As far as Aew’s experience the fact that Knapp is in MN which is sending Franken to Washington speaks volumes. I’m sorry this is the impression given to her. Thai govt has always treated me with respect and politeness and they are not without their own islamic jihad problems.

wepeople on January 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM

From the tone of the post, I’m betting Michael’s tappin that. Dunno, just a guy thing, it’s my “straight-dar” kickin in.

Alden Pyle on January 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM

I respect Yon too, but I’m not sure that he (whose girlfriend was hassled and vacation plans were upset) might not have the best perspective on this matter. Even if the King of Thailand is the bestest guy in the whole wide world, the fact remains that Thailand itself has a restive Muslim population. Apart from that, educated and employed people overstay their US visas all the time. I personally appreciate the extra screening.

It’s not as though she was refused entry or taken into custody and, although it isn’t clear from his article, it sounds as though both he and his lady friend were only inconvenienced for a few hours. If Yon is starting to confuse ordinary prudence in the name of national security and everyday bureaucratic pomposity with a serious attack on our civil liberties, maybe he’s ready for the NYT.

Infidoll on January 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Oh, and for a PC — abandon it. TrueCrypt hidden volumes + SanDisk 8 Gig Cruiser + AES with good pass phrases, load into a PC at your destination.

htom on January 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Give the security people a break. Anyone traveling to the USA should know that 1) a return ticket is a must (and cheaper than buying a one-way, so what’s up with that?) and 2) that security is having to do a very difficult job with as little discomfort as possible to passengers.

I don’t know how I would react if asked about my email, but, having nothing to hide, I suppose I would have caved faced with an authority figure. So the emails are private, so what? It was proof that she had a real connection to people in the States and helped the security guy figure out what to do.

Sure, we all wish that searches would be less stressful but I think that if M Yon’s friend’s plane has been hijacked or blown up because of a lapse in security, he’d be calling for more strict searches.

For Yon, this was personal. That what makes him see it as uncalled for. If it had been a dark-skinned, bearded imam that he didn’t know, he’d be fine with the whole thing, I think.

lostinfrance on January 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM

If Yon is starting to confuse ordinary prudence in the name of national security and everyday bureaucratic pomposity with a serious attack on our civil liberties, maybe he’s ready for the NYT.

Infidoll on January 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM

You seriously think this was ordinary prudence?

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM

unseen on January 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Bush fought to stop DHS from unionizing.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Can’t say who I’m working for… but a Pissing contest between them, and the TSA would be… fun to watch…

Romeo13 on January 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Interesting. Well, then maybe you don’t need to worry about losing your laptop.

Based on the implications of your “pissing contest” comment I suspect it may even be the same company.

DarkCurrent on January 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM

What are the odds that you two actually know each other?

So, in the event of another 9/11, will everyone say that they understand because the DHS officers need to be polite or will they wonder why DHS did not do its job?

Kafir on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Being polite and doing your job don’t need to be mutually exclusive.

8 years of WOT and still no victory.

unseen on January 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Terror will always exist. There can be no victory. There can be victories, of which we’ve had many, many that you seem unable to even acknowledge.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 1:46 PM

So, in the event of another 9/11, will everyone say that they understand because the DHS officers need to be polite or will they wonder why DHS did not do its job?

Kafir on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Then I’ll point out that the behavior of the DHS dingleberries didn’t prevent another 9/11.

MadisonConservative on January 5, 2009 at 1:49 PM

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Some sort of extra screening seems warranted by the fact of the one-way ticket. Her particular experience might have been the result of any number of additional factors (how she answered the officer’s questions, did she seem nervous..). Absent other facts, (and the opinions of a miffed-off, alpha-male boyfriend just don’t count), it’s hard for me to get really outraged about this.

Infidoll on January 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM

After reading Yon’s story, I quickly determined why the woman was given the third degree. Female. One way ticket. She fits the profile of a slave coming into the US — a “mail order bride” as it were. And Yon fit the profile of a perp. Here in LA a couple of years ago they found a couple of apartments filled with Thai women kept in slave-like conditions. They’d all come into the country as Aew did, on one way tickets.

Read here, here, and here.

I think the Customs guy was actually quite decent. He figured out that Aew was not destined for the aforementioned fate, and let her in.

That said, I’d live to hear that tape — and I’m betting that there was smug certainty on both sides of the conversation.

[BTW, my beard guarantees that I get the treatment every time. I understand, and submit. It's just life in this post-9/11 world, where profiling is a very good tool.]

unclesmrgol on January 5, 2009 at 2:04 PM

In 1992 I was traveling through LAX on my way to Germany. I was 8 mos pregnant & traveling with an 18 mo child in a stroller and I had a military passport/orders. Apparently this looked very suspicious to the TSA agent, who of course only wanted to do her job and do it well.
mauioriginal on January 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I’d believe your fantasy if it contained at least a few facts….

TSA
“We were created in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, to strengthen the security of the nation’s transportation systems. The Aviation and Transportation Security Act, passed by the 107th Congress on November 19, 2001

DailyKos misses you.

crash72 on January 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Yon needs to contact the dip shit’s supervisor and file a formal complaint. HS won’t like that….tough shit!

His story is one reason I no longer fly. The Dept. of Homeland Security is a joke.

GarandFan on January 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM

unclesmrgol on January 5, 2009 at 2:04 PM

She had a 10 year visa and a passport FILLED with stamps.

Naahhh, your explanation is weak sauce at best.

Again, it should not take this much effort to figure out that a suspected person is a negative case.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Bush fought to stop DHS from unionizing.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM

And he lost with a majority in the House and the Senate and a 80% approval rating a war going on He still lost. Face facts Bush have into the dems on the union issue to get something he wanted. In short the union issue was not important for him to fight on. He cut a deal.

unseen on January 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM

TSA agent

TSA has only officers. God help us all if they are elevated to agents.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM

He cut a deal.
unseen on January 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM

It’s what he does best.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Again, it should not take this much effort to figure out that a suspected person is a negative case.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM

You are basing this on what, exactly?

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM

In short the union issue was not important for him to fight on. He cut a deal.

unseen on January 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Or rather, it was, but he lost anyway, and thus decided to get something out of losing. Would you prefer that he’d lost and gotten nothing in return?

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM

I travel a lot in my business and I have encountered only one exceptionally rude official at an airport in the U.S.. I make it a point to be very polite and I try not to project a bad attitude. I have however, had immigration officials in England, France and Germany be very intimidating on numerous occasions, regardless of how polite that I tried to be.

Johan Klaus on January 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM

I don’t find the outrage. A one way ticket is on the list of items that require alert investigation. Sure people could purchase a round trip to fool the guards, yet a one way open ended trip has always been an alert for flight insurance suicides, folks who also could easily buy a round trip to fool the inspectors

Once someone meets points on a list, and we have no way of knowing what else might have been a flag. Security has a very short time to shake out the facts or let go of the questioning and possibly see a plane explode later

I have run into interrogation a few times. Reporting a possible sigting off a most wanted poster I was hit with a barrage of questions, many seemingly unrelated. It was a technique used by the FBI to separate people’s facts from their conclusions. I agreed to a description of heighth, weight, and body shape to be told this was the opposite of the escapee. I might have talked myself into identifying a full body photo, but this line of questioning also convinced me that I did not have the right person

An important technique is to rattle a person. People who are presenting a series of lies expect to relate them in an orderly fashion. Rapid questioning in your face can rattle a liar and make them slip. In my personal life, that is where I have found liars fail.

The security was probably rude. Possibly stupid. But they are up against rude and stupid people every day. I want nice guys at hospitals and orphanages. I need winners at airport security

entagor on January 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Wow, it’s almost like she asked Obama a tough question.

joeindc44 on January 5, 2009 at 2:48 PM

High Tech Security Maybe we need to hire these folks.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/01/satellite-firm-tracking-pirates-update.html

Dr Evil on January 5, 2009 at 2:53 PM

We jokingly call it the Dept of Homey Security due to the general staff resembling an inner city Burger King crew in physical, social and verbal attributes. My guess is Knapp fit this bill as well.

Alden Pyle on January 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM

I smell another cop vs. citizen thousand comment post.

Bill C on January 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM

We jokingly call it the Dept of Homey Security due to the general staff resembling an inner city Burger King crew in physical, social and verbal attributes. My guess is Knapp fit this bill as well.

Alden Pyle on January 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkdcYlOn5M

roux on January 5, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Sure, we all wish that searches would be less stressful but I think that if M Yon’s friend’s plane has been hijacked or blown up because of a lapse in security, he’d be calling for more strict searches.

For Yon, this was personal. That’s what makes him see it as uncalled for.

lostinfrance on January 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Indubitably. To the logician all things should be seen exactly as they are in the greater scheme of things without personal sentiment.

semloh on January 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM

I AM sorry for the woman, and would love to hear the “other” side, but really don’t care. If we had more like Officer Knapp maybe, just maybe 9/11 would have been stopped.

Mark Garnett on January 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM

I love the vitriol and the sass, Mark. But, Michael Yon is not exactly namby-pamby, just to be sure. No, his friends don’t get special handling, but the lack of common sense at HS has pissed me off since the beginning.

They let 24 year old Muslim guys through and search Grandma’s luggage because they can’t allow “profiling”. Bull feathers – profile them.

Jaibones on January 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM

roux on January 5, 2009 at 3:08 PM

The video was perfect, except that the girl could mostly speak English. No way.

Jaibones on January 5, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Don’t argue with the man or the woman with the gun.

HornetSting on January 5, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Everytime I got through Minneapolis I wonder, for a while, if I am in Somalia.

James on January 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM

You are basing this on what, exactly?

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Did you read that article?

The circumstances. The lack of mystery in the person. The number of possible cases versus the amount of time available to a given DHS agent or TSA officer in a day.

Everyone’s all like “oh man we don’t have all the facts!”

That’s right! We often don’t have all the facts. Guess who else doesn’t often have all the facts? DHS. So guess what? They need to make not just judgement calls but good judgement calls.

So she got a one way ticket, okay. That’s enough to be detained, and conduct an interview. Sure, I can totally understand that.

But Jesus H Christ, she’s got a 10 year visa for Christ’s sake. She’s got a passport bursting with world travels. These are not the marks of a terrorist. She’s a woman! She’s Thai! These are not the marks of a terrorist.

An hour should’ve been all this took. At most. If this guy couldn’t figure out this woman was safe in an hour, he needs to be fired so someone competent can take his place.

While hindsight may be 20/20, lets not pretend like these guys are in some incredibly unique situation that we couldn’t possibly understand. I’ll give President Bush that benefit of the doubt, but not some random border agent.

Competence should take precedence over security, because you’ll never get the latter without the former.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM

And yet my training and experience leads me to precisely the opposite conclusion

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:31 PM

She’s got a passport bursting with world travels.

Most smugglers do

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM

The lack of mystery in the person

What was she wearing? Where were her hands? How did she have her hair? Did she have luggage? Checked? Carry-on?

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I’ll give President Bush that benefit of the doubt, but not some random border agent.

Um, what?

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:36 PM

What was her NIV? Where was it issued? What were the conditions of issue? Is she entering under the conditions of her visa? 10 year visas are not issued for visiting friends in Florida

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Yeah, a smuggler. There you go. Man and I thought “sex slave” was thin.

I’m reminded of this

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM

A visa is nothing more or less than permission to apply for admission. It does not cause you to be admissible, it does not cause you to be admitted, and it certainly does not cause you to be here for proper purpose.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Jesus H Christ

Why H? Does anyone know? I’ve always wondered.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Try flying into France with a stamp from the middle east or even Spain on your passport. Two hours is nothing.

Johan Klaus on January 5, 2009 at 3:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkdcYlOn5M

roux on January 5, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Money.

Alden Pyle on January 5, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Why H? Does anyone know? I’ve always wondered.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Best theory I heard was that it had to do with the a monogram for Christ being the first 3 letters of his name (IHS or IHC in Greek) and that eventually turning into JHS & JHC – and then people didn’t understand that it represented the Latin form of the Greek. So it was iota eta sigma, not J and H and C.

But from JHC, it’s easy to guess where Jesus H Christ came from.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Iesus Hominum Salvator: Jesus, Savior of Man. Why? Dunno

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM

But from JHC, it’s easy to guess where Jesus H Christ came from.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Thanks. I had no idea.

Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Passed through a TSA checkpoint at LAX the other day. One guy was playing solitaire on a computer with the door open to the main walkway. Just another large government bureaucracy. Of course, we do need security, but like everything else government, it just grows and becomes more inefficient. I also marveled at the lack of consistency in the TSA as we traveled. In HI, they were more than happy to allow water bottles through the checkpoint because we had children. In LA, it was draconian security requiring me to guzzle the water at the checkpoint or throw out the bottle.

We need to advance the technology and biometrics so that all of these overpaid union idiots can be replaced by impartial machines that will do a far better job.

JeffB. on January 5, 2009 at 4:01 PM

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Sounds about right. or from the inscription above the Cross- INRH, Jesus of Nazereth, King of the Hebrews

Somewhere along the way, the Latin and Greek combined.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Try flying into France with a stamp from the middle east or even Spain on your passport. Two hours is nothing.

Johan Klaus on January 5, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Well, really for this guy it wasn’t so much the time as the invasiveness.

But I’ve heard more than one person, Ars Technica writer as well, report that security agents pretty much act as though once in an airport, you have no rights.

This situation is going to come to a head, and then we’ll have Supreme Court mandates tying our border agents hands.

Much better that they execute their job with effeciency and competence, and avoid that, I’d think.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Jesus H Christ

Why H? Does anyone know? I’ve always wondered.
Esthier on January 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Hyroniemus.

At least that’s what I think. At least that’s more believable than ‘tapdancing’, because as we all know, there is not documented tap dancing in biblical times.

wise_man on January 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM

then we’ll have Supreme Court mandates tying our border agents hands.

No need: management already does that.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Let’s face it: HLS has a few Andy Taylors, a few more Barney Fifes, a good many Howard Spragues, and some number of Ernst T. Basses.

But we live in the modern Rome: all foreigners want the status of citizen, but they will all give a sardonic smile of relief when the US falls from power.

Years ago Israeli airport security patted down my wife and then took her into a room to pull down her panties and prove that the bulge in her crotch was a bloody sanitary napkin. This is hard-core.

Since 9/11, I myself always do a toned-down TD dance and when I get through security without having to open my densely-packed carry-on.

I’m not sure I understand the utility of a one-way ticket or the reaction to one. They often cost more than a round-trip. But on that subject, my in-laws recently came to visit (they also went to the Philippines without problem) and they were flying in and out of the US on stand-by. But when trying to return via their same connexion in Japan they were told they could not enter Japan without an out-going ticket. We had to call the US and purchase a full-price ticket for them to return. Since they only had a short lay-over for their connecting flight from Japan, it was a bit stressful, standing in line and hanging about at the ticket counter as we were. But this can’t be good for airline efficiency or for customer satisfaction, though that’s the way it is.

I personally prefer the Israeli system because it works: professionals who screen according to training (including profiling), skill and experience.

And I don’t know about the circumstances of a ten-year visa, but we can’t be giving passes on security clearances to friends of journalists or celebrities.

flicker on January 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM

hmmmm….
Just spitballing here, but is it possible perhaps that Aew volunteered the password herself, to show the officer that her friend Michale Yon was a bigshot journalist… then told Yon a made-up tale of intimidation out of embarassment or whatever.

i’ve never heard of anyone asking for a passwrod, pretty sure they don’t do it, and it sparks of a lie to me.

max1 on January 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM

A very few years ago, my wife and I (both over 60) were travelling to Honolulu through Chicago on United. I had a government ID. They separated us at the TSA line and she went through the real near strip search. The offending TSA searcher could not even speak English. They insisted on rewarding my by forcing me to board first, leaving her on her own. After the crew retrieved her, I complained to the purser and explained the guy couldn’t even speak English. While out at Hickam, the big story was the firing of a lot of TSA employees at Ohare because they were illegal aliens.

On another occasion, I was returning from Paris through Ohare, and the extreme loud mouthed customs inspector would not validate my carnet because he percieved there was something wrong with it (there wasn’t, but his fouling of it went to DC). Another inspector grabbed me as I was fumingly walking out and he told me to not mind the first inspector, that he was a stupid loudmouthed a$$hole. I had customs in OKC validate the carnet and he said that the Chicago Customs was terrible, and never go through there. I will say that I have always been treated with courtesy by US customs all over the world. There are just a few bad spots.

For those who take their computers abroad, please note that you aren’t supposed to do that. Even cots programs are in great demand by counterfeiters and espionage types. Your computer sitting in your hotel room can be a great source of programs and data for all sorts of nefarious characters. I have been told that for the priveledge of taking your computer abroad, you give up the right to privacy on it. Any official in any country can examine or even confiscate your computer at will.
My apologies to Aew. We all aren’t like that inspector. However, my daughter (a company high executive) often flys one-way through MSP and she says it is hell. When she has to do that at MSP, she minimizes what she takes with her and travels light clotheswise.

Lastly, TSA WAS forced down the Presidents throat as a recommendation of the befouled blue ribbon committee looking into the 9/11 attack. This was pushed by Ms. Garbonzo, the one the Obamessiah is appointing to his cabinet – the one responsible for the infameous wall between investigation agencies.

Ed – You need to stop giving these government public servants the benefit of the undoubtable. There are far, far too many of the bad ones out there. Can you say “government employees union?”

Old Country Boy on January 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM

hmmmm….
Just spitballing here, but is it possible perhaps that Aew volunteered the password herself, to show the officer that her friend Michale Yon was a bigshot journalist… then told Yon a made-up tale of intimidation out of embarassment or whatever.

i’ve never heard of anyone asking for a passwrod, pretty sure they don’t do it, and it sparks of a lie to me.

max1 on January 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Or maybe she said that my friend Michael Yon and I will be flying out on an undetermined date, which is why I didn’t have a return ticket. Officer “Friendly” demanded to search through her computer for proof.

Illinidiva on January 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Just spitballing here, but is it possible perhaps that Aew volunteered the password herself, to show the officer that her friend Michale Yon was a bigshot journalist… then told Yon a made-up tale of intimidation out of embarassment or whatever.

i’ve never heard of anyone asking for a passwrod, pretty sure they don’t do it, and it sparks of a lie to me.

max1 on January 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM

And you strike me as a moron.

Yon isn’t the sort to make wild, exaggerated accusations. This Knapp character called him on his cell, and if Yon says he was a rude smart-alec, then he most likely was. The thought that someone is going to try and “impress” some power-tripping jerk at the airport with e-mails to a blogger is laughable.

Hollowpoint on January 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM

i wonder if Knapp was being filmed by an ABC cameraman for their new series “Homeland Security U.S.A.“?

stormin1961 on January 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM

I’ve found the answer as to why this happened. Perhaps Mr. Knapp was cranky due to this………….

TSA workers report rashes from uniforms

http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/1361821,CST-NWS-Ride05.article

Case closed.

Knucklehead on January 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM

unseen:

Bush is not King, he did not just allow the unions to come in. It was not that simple and what difference does it make anyway? Do you think that if this guy were not in a union he would be a nice guy? People like you will be blaming Bush for everything from bad weather to a stubbed toe for the rest of your lives.

After all, if anything bad happens anywhere in the world, it is because Bush made it happen or let it happen.

As far as this incident is concerned, they can report the guy and if he got out of line, his boss can deal with him. That is what happens to the rest of us. The girl was not raped or shot or jailed or sent back to Thailand.

And was Yon even there to see this? Or is he recounting what she told him?

This is not just about Homeland Security. There have been stories like this for years, it is not about Bush either.

I do not carry a computer onto a plane. I mail anything to destination that I do not want to take onboard with me. I do not check luggage either. I carry one small carry on and a purse. That is it.

Terrye on January 5, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Jaibones:

A woman killed 38 people in Iraq in a suicide bombings. Women have carried out suicide missions on planes in Russia.

Terrye on January 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM

unclesmrgol on January 5, 2009 at 2:04 PM

She had a 10 year visa and a passport FILLED with stamps.

Naahhh, your explanation is weak sauce at best.

Again, it should not take this much effort to figure out that a suspected person is a negative case.

apollyonbob on January 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM

I also carry a passport with many visas and stamps, as well as other documentation of my 100% patriotism as well. Doesn’t mean a thing — I still get spread-eagled and wanded more often than not. And the officer did due diligence in Yon’s friend’s case, too.

If I were a customs guy faced by a weak retiring, unassertive female who fit the profile of a sex slave, and I talked to her assertive “friend” who was 100% alpha male, I’d do the diligence too.

unclesmrgol on January 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Concerned citizens should write U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Washington, D.C. 20528 to complain. See a retired US Marshal comment below, this is part of comment 63 at the Yon link.

Dear Mr. Yon.

. . .

First of all Mr. Knapp is just an employee of the US Government and is subject to rules and regulations that dictates his conduct while performing the duties of his job description. He, as all Government employees, has supervisors. These supervisors hate more than anything else is to have negative attention directed at them caused by a subordinate. Therefore you must report this man’s action and attitude to DHS headquarters in Washington DC.
. . .

First, from your letter it appears that Mr. Knapp removed Ms. Aew from a public area into a private room; this in its self is not against the rules, however, was it only Mr. Knapp (a male) and Ms. Aew (a female) in the room without a female agent present at all times? If so, a male agent and a female subject alone in a private room, for any amount of time is absolutely against all rules and Code of Conduct of any law enforcement agency of the United States Government. If the room was under video surveillance there is still a requirement for a minimum of two agents be present except for a very brief time period.

Next point, did Mr. Knapp go through Ms. Aew belonging without a female agent present? If no female agent present he has again violated the rules. This must be reported as well.

Mr. Knapp was not required to give you his fist name, however, he is obligated to give Ms. Aew his first name. If he refused to provide this information, this must be reported as well.

You need to send copies of your article posted here, plus a personal statement by Ms. Aew to the Congressional members of the State of Minnesota, and if you are a US Citizen, to the Congressional members of your home state. This should be forwarded to the Thai Embassy. A copy should be sent to the Attorney General’s Office of the Department of Justice of the United States. If you have any influence with Sectary Gates, use it, have his office become involved as well.

As you are well aware there is a power change in Washington this month. This can be used to great effect. Many positions in the DHS are by appointment. These people that hold these appointed positions do not want to lose their jobs. Having embarrassing problems with a low level agent is the last thing they want or need. Mr. Knapp will be thrown to wolves if enough negative attention is brought to focus on him and his supervisors.

. . .

Mark30339 on January 5, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Concerning the “10 year visa”: I now realize that it is likely the period of validity, not the period of admission. When you apply for a visa, you have to show up at the Port within X timeframe. Once your passport is stamped, a separate clock begins, and you only have as much time to be present in the US as your visa classification states.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 7:46 PM

@knucklehead I don’t believe you on needing to show a return ticket when you go through Thai customs. I’ve been going to Thailand for 15 years and at least 100 times through….never have I ever been asked to see a return ticket.

Rahmulus on January 5, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Wow, this is awful. While I think this *may* be an exception, it showcases the attitude America and Homeland Security has towards foreigners. International travellers, too. Having been to Thailand twice in the last 5 years, I enjoyed every airport and stop other than the reception at LAX. At the other stops everything went smoothly and without undue scrutiny, but at the US, I had the Spanish Inquisition on one trip.

I’m just disgusted with the way the US in particular treats air travelers. It reeks of a police state. An inept one, at that.

Viscount_Bolingbroke on January 5, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I also carry a passport with many visas and stamps, as well as other documentation of my 100% patriotism as well. Doesn’t mean a thing — I still get spread-eagled and wanded more often than not. And the officer did due diligence in Yon’s friend’s case, too.

If I were a customs guy faced by a weak retiring, unassertive female who fit the profile of a sex slave, and I talked to her assertive “friend” who was 100% alpha male, I’d do the diligence too.

unclesmrgol on January 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM

“Due diligence” is one thing; being a rude, unprofessional, bullying a-hole is quite another. And too many of these low-rent TSA people fall into the latter category.

These are public servants. Regardless of how important their job is, it doesn’t excuse the boorish behavior and unnecessary, counterproductive practices that only serve to anger those they are there to protect.

A lot of these people (and particularly the supervisors) need a swift kick into the unemployment line. The world needs ditch diggers and mall security guards too.

Hollowpoint on January 5, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Hollowpoint on January 5, 2009 at 9:31 PM

TSA and Customs are not the same thing.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Viscount:

A police state? I think that is overstating things just a tad. I mean come on people, the guy was a dick but there are people like that all over the place.

If this country is so damn hard to get into and if our government is so mean to everyone who tries to come here, where the hell did all the foreigners come from? I mean jeez..they try to get here anyway they can and considering the number of them that are here it seems a good many of them manage it without being hauled off to the gulag.

Terrye on January 5, 2009 at 9:48 PM

TSA and Customs are not the same thing.

cadetwithchips2 on January 5, 2009 at 9:34 PM

OK, yes- they’re different. Different peas from the same pod. They perform different functions, but the problems seem to be very similar.

Hollowpoint on January 5, 2009 at 10:15 PM

By golly this is a nasty thread. No one should call the TSA people names because the vast majority are “just doing their jobs”. In fact, that is my mantra going through the whole process.

But the “cops are always right no matter what” crew on here are horrible. Bashing Michael Yon, Thais and anyone and anything that slightly criticizes TSA is really over the top and very odd for a HotAir thread. It’s one of the oddest threads I think I ever read here.

I don’t know how many times I’ve crossed borders around the world but it’s in the 1,000 for sure. The worst border in the world is the US, at least in the civilized world. I spend an inordinate of my time defending the US but when this subject comes up I agree wholeheartedly.

The US border is sometimes like the DMV with a really inhuman attitude.

It doesn’t have to be that way. The people manning the borders should be charming, welcoming and smart which many of them are but they are simply trained by government types covering their asses. And you don’t have to be an a** to catch potential terrorists; in fact, a friendly “Columbo” is going to detect trouble easier than a Shawn Penn type.

It’s not a place that should be run by amateurs, it’s just too important for security and our image. If we don’t have any rights at the border neither should the workers via unions and such. They should be required to maintain a high level of professionalism and courtesy. They should be paid accordingly. They are our first line of defense and our first impression and if they can’t live up to high standards they should be dismissed without difficulty.

They should have knowledge of other countries. I’m not saying submit to them as our lefties would like but an understanding and a curiosity.

You should walk away entering or exiting our border with this thought “I would trust those people with my children but I would certainly not want to mess with them’.

Fixing this problem is straightforward but I don’t see how it is going to change… bureaucracy, union, big gov are too powerful….

So with that thought always keep this phrase in mind “yes sir, may I have another”

Rahmulus on January 5, 2009 at 10:49 PM

As usual, Yon has put his finger on the nerve center of one of our primary organizations – and exposed its weakness.

I think that this is despicable!

This is the classic example of our Border defenses illegally harassing innocent people – while they let REAL Terrorists flow in and out unabated.

I am going to send this into Homeland Security and ask WHY “Officer Knapp” has not been FIRED!!

I think we ALL should!!

grtflmark on January 5, 2009 at 11:16 PM

The TSA are all UNION GOONS – and should ALL fired in lieu of some REAL PROFESSIONALS!!

grtflmark on January 5, 2009 at 11:18 PM

After reading Michael’s entire article I can see another line that probably rankles a bit “She was treated better in China. So was I”

It’s absolutely true.

I hate saying it as much of most of you will not like reading it.

Rahmulus on January 5, 2009 at 11:19 PM

hmmmm….
Just spitballing here, but is it possible perhaps that Aew volunteered the password herself, to show the officer that her friend Michale Yon was a bigshot journalist… then told Yon a made-up tale of intimidation out of embarassment or whatever.

i’ve never heard of anyone asking for a passwrod, pretty sure they don’t do it, and it sparks of a lie to me.

max1 on January 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Your BRAIN is a “spitball” – and YOU are complete. pluperfect IDIOT who thinks the way most people DEFECATE: In SHORT, SMELLY SPURTS!!!!

grtflmark on January 5, 2009 at 11:24 PM

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