Israel invades Gaza; Update: “A lengthy operation”

posted at 1:38 pm on January 3, 2009 by Allahpundit

Just a headline so far and no one else is reporting it, but they’ve been shelling northern Gaza since this morning to prepare the way so it’s not unexpected.

Now the JPost is reporting it too. Stand by for updates.

Update: From the JPost, big dividends from good intel:

The IAF also hit the home of senior Hamas commander Abu Zacharia Al-Jamal. A Hamas spokesman announced that al-Jamal was killed in the attack, which would make him the third senior operative in the group to be targeted in the past three days.

More:

Israeli defense officials said some 10,000 troops, including tank, artillery and special operations units, were massed on the Gaza border and prepared to invade. They said top commanders were split over whether to send in ground forces, in part because such an operation could lead to heavy casualties but also because they believed Hamas already had been dealt a heavy blow. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were classified discussions.

Fox News reported earlier that Israeli leaders had okayed a ground assault while the Telegraph claimed that they’d nixed it, so it’s safe to conclude this wasn’t done without serious misgivings. I’m actually surprised they went in: They can’t stop the rockets and they surely don’t want to reoccupy, so the only goal realistically is to bloody Hamas’s nose. But they’ve already done that with the airstrikes. Upping the ante by sending in infantry only leaves them vulnerable to a 2006 scenario where Hamas “wins” by surviving. According to Haaretz, Arab leaders told Olmert, “Go in if you must, but don’t dare fail.” What will “failure” look like? What, specifically, are they after? Hamas leaders or Qassam caches, or something else?

If they’d called a ceasefire unilaterally and said, “Let that be a lesson to you,” Hamas would have fired off a few rockets and declared victory. Some victory, though — Israel’s killed several big jihadi fish and plenty of littler ones, and hit dozens of military targets with virtually no casualties on its own side. Now it’s got men in harm’s way and propaganda opportunities galore for the enemy in the form of the “resistance” chucking rocks at tanks while the media spoons it up. Exit question: Isn’t Hamas going to fire off rockets and declare victory anyway after the ground assault?

Update: The point of the war, eloquently stated by a commenter at Commentary: “The military campaign as a whole to the extent that it is conducted effectively, will greatly reduce the number of people existing right now who wish to and are capable of harming Israel. On its own terms, that’s all it can accomplish, and that’s enough. Whether it makes a few people angry in Pakistan is an incalculable-unless, for reasons of your own, you wish to give those who can rent a mob, buy colorful anti-Israel banners, and get themselves on CNN veto power over Israeli policies.”

Update: The JPost says the goal of the operation is to destroy Hamas infrastructure and seize control of launching pads in the north. For how long, though? Until they pull out in two weeks and the pads are re-seized by Hamas?

Update: I’ve said this before, but however slanted you think American media is against Israel, it really doesn’t even approach British media.

Update: “Tens of thousands” of reservists are on their way up.

Update: An IDF spokesman says there are “many, many targets,” so the world shouldn’t hold its breath waiting for a pullout. Question: Are we to infer from the timing that Obama greenlit the operation? I remember people like John Bolton speculating months ago that the IAF would make a run on Iran sometime between the election and the inauguration, partly to avoid putting the new president on the spot and partly to eliminate the possibility that he’d stop them from acting once in office. This ain’t Iran, but the principle still applies. Did The One sign off on this, or did Israel act now precisely so that he wouldn’t have to?

Update: Bits and pieces of video from the invasion.

Update: Isn’t this operation destined to be finished by Inauguration Day or very shortly thereafter? Obama’s not going to complicate his peace plans by tolerating a long Israeli incursion right out of the chute. They’re on the clock.

Update: A few careless statements from Israeli pols give the NYT all the reason it needs to up the ante further and ask whether anything short of destroying Hamas will do.

Vice Premier Haim Ramon went even further Friday night in an interview on Israeli television, saying Israel must not end this operation with Hamas in charge of Gaza.

“What I think we need to do is to reach a situation in which we do not allow Hamas to govern,” Mr. Ramon said on Channel One. “That is the most important thing.”…

“If the war ends in a draw, as expected, and Israel refrains from reoccupying Gaza, Hamas will gain diplomatic recognition,” wrote Aluf Benn, a political analyst, in the newspaper Haaretz on Friday. “No matter what you call it,” he added, “Hamas will obtain legitimacy.”…

[E]ven if Israel intends to hold back from completely overthrowing Hamas, its choice of assault tactics could head that way anyway. And the Israelis may already be facing a kind of mission creep: after all, if enough of Hamas’s infrastructure is destroyed, the prospect of governing Gaza, a densely populated, refugee-filled area whose weak economy has been devastated by the Israeli-led boycott, will be exceedingly difficult.


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Israeli papers are reporting it as well – http://is.gd/eust

omriceren on January 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Sorry – that should have been other Israeli papers are reporting it as well.

omriceren on January 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Go, Israel!

Mommynator on January 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

it’s on baby! Go get-em juice!

conservnut on January 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

GO IDF GO! STAY SAFE AND KILL THE BAD GUYS!!

Buckaroo on January 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

They have got less than 3 weeks left to win this war. After that they will lose their only ally. Sometimes peace can only be achieved by war.

Tommy_G on January 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Bravo! And don’t stop until they are all deastroyed.

rplat on January 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Well I’m sure the ever-helpful CNN crews will be providing the IDF’s GPS coordinates and other support intel to the enemy, as usual.

Fishoutofwater on January 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM

They have got less than 3 weeks left to win this war. After that they will lose their only ally. Sometimes peace can only be achieved by war.

They may lose Obama but that still leaves many millions of Americans that support their cause.

rplat on January 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Go get em Israel!!

Viper1 on January 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Sounds to me like…

…THE JUICE IS LOOSE!!!

Hang tough, IDF!

uncivilized on January 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Finish the job

nineveh on January 3, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Guess what everybody. MSNBC is getting their news feed from Al-Jazeera.

Lance Murdock on January 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I’m sure that this will be covered fairly and objectively.

“This is CNN….I am Christiane Amanpour.Breaking News.The Israelis begin their ground assault on the innocent civilians and children of Gaza.The brave militia of Hamas scramble to defend their home and dust off the old unused rockets that sat dormant for years as no one ever needed to use them before.
Wolf …I’m told that the Israelis began their horrible assault on the schools and hospitals first but soon they plan to attack nursing homes and puppy shelters.
The people here are terrified…”

NeoKong on January 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Finish the job

nineveh on January 3, 2009 at 1:47 PM

It`ll never be finished and that`s the problem. It`s going to go on and on and on. There`s no “taking the capital and signing the treaty” moment.

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Hopefully…they have the courage to continue. The rockets go further and further…one day they won’t have the chance to defend themselves.

tomas on January 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Godspeed IDF

Lance Murdock on January 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I think they might be trying to solve it once and for all before BarryO can cut aid money for “inappropriate response” and all that.

JamesLee on January 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I hope they crush Hamas under their tank tracks.

NeoKong on January 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Wouldn’t be surprised one bit, after all, these are the same people that idolize Marx and Che.

Personally, I’m up for another anti-Communist purge, this time aimed at the media and the colleges. Who’s with me?

Ryan Gandy on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

It`ll never be finished and that`s the problem. It`s going to go on and on and on. There`s no “taking the capital and signing the treaty” moment.

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM

It could end if Israel has the courage to expel all the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

doriangrey on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM

That’s what happens in wars when no one is ever allowed to win. Imagine if we treated the Japanese and Germans this way in WWII.

Israel ought to win….or lose.
(Beginning to feel the same way about the WOT.)

Boy, liberalism really is madness.

JiangxiDad on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

“Hopefully…they have the courage to continue. The rockets go further and further…one day they won’t have the chance to defend themselves.

tomas on January 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM”

Tomas, that’s actually why I think they have gone in this time. They want to give themselves several years of reduced activity by the nutcase Palestinian “warriors” by severely reducing their capability. I would assume that high on the list of their objectives in this is finding leaders to either arrest or kill and discovering as many caches of the illegal arms and rockets that the Hamas criminals have stockpiled over the years since they took over as the “government” in Gaza.

God speed Israelis, and do not lose your will this time.

Webrider on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Godspeed to the IDF.

CantCureStupid on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Fox has it

Guardian on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Personally, I’m up for another anti-Communist purge, this time aimed at the media and the colleges. Who’s with me?

Ryan Gandy on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

me.

JiangxiDad on January 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM

FOX is confirming the ground incursion.

Bugler on January 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Personally, I’m up for another anti-Communist purge, this time aimed at the media and the colleges. Who’s with me?

Ryan Gandy on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

One can only hope…

doriangrey on January 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM

You know…………..

……….. it’s times like these that we need to remember simpler times, like one of the best cartoons…………. evah!

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Good for them.

Dorvillian on January 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM

After they’re done with Hamas, would the IDF be willing to contract a similar crushing of the UAW headquarters?

Bishop on January 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Put the nail in Hamas’ coffin…

D2Boston on January 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Boy, liberalism really is madness.

JiangxiDad on January 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I am no liberal, but I think in rational terms. What I`m saying if you`ll think clearly, is this. Unless they kill all of them, Hamas leaders, women, old people, children, they`ll always be someone to fight Israel. It`s part of their culture now.

So I ask you, what do you think should happen. Continuous conflict or eliminating every single Palestinian?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

The Palestinians don’t want land…or their own country…

They want Israel destroyed.

Ain’t gonna happen.

JetBoy on January 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Mike Tobin says 20,000 troops are moving but has not said they’ve invaded yet, but that the tanks have crossed the border.

Go Israel! Kick their islamic azzes!

Tony737 on January 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM

God Speed!

rob verdi on January 3, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Guess what everybody. MSNBC is getting their news feed from Al-Jazeera.

Lance Murdock on January 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM

And we’re shocked by this?
/sarc

thomasaur on January 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Take cover! Moonbat heads exploding!

Pop..pop…Kaboom!

Blake on January 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM

…THE JUICE IS LOOSE!!!

Hang tough, IDF!

uncivilized on January 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Thanks for the laugh. Go IDF!!!! I am behind you all the way (not literally of course..I am safe in my bunker).

HawaiiLwyr on January 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM

They may lose Obama but that still leaves many millions of Americans that support their cause.

Unfortunatly, after 1/20/09 those millions don’t count. Only the extreme anti-America/anti-war left will count then. Israel may be doing the only thing left to save their country.

Elections have consquences.

Godspeed IDF. We’ll be back on your side in 4 years, after our people realize that the only way to deal with evil is to kill it in its cradle.

MikeA on January 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Trust me…Israel could do enough to have victory.

tomas on January 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM

From the Ny Times (so it must be true)

Breaking News 1:59 PM ET:
Israeli Ground Forces Are Moving Into Gaza

rob verdi on January 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM

So I ask you, what do you think should happen. Continuous conflict or eliminating every single Palestinian?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

I’m guessing that you think Continuous conflict is the answer. I’m all for Israel kicking all the Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank. Then if any attacks come from the surrounding countries as a result of their new Palestinian guests, Israel should open the gates of hell and shove that country right straight through them. Like it or not that is how civilized nations deal with being attacked and having their citizen murdered. It is what keeps barbarians from attacking civilized people.

Civilized people live at peace with their neighbors whenever it is possible, but they absolutely do not allow their sovereignty to be challenged or their citizens murdered.

doriangrey on January 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM

I wonder what Iran is up to today………….

…………. maybe playing a round of golf?

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Hamas would also have declared victory if Israel hadn’t invaded.

“See? The Zionists were too afraid to confront us on the ground, and continued their cowardly bombing from the air.”

Here’s hoping Olmert & Co’s learning curve since 2006 hasn’t been a flatline.

DRPrice on January 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Go with Almighty God! You are in our prayers! And I’m not just saying that…you are truly in our prayers Israel! Shalom!

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Hurry up and get done what needs to be done by the 20th. God Speed IDF

KBird on January 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Crush them

notagool on January 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM

It`ll never be finished and that`s the problem. It`s going to go on and on and on. There`s no “taking the capital and signing the treaty” moment.

Yet there is making attacks on Israel so utterly painful that most of it can be contained. The Israelis can’t stop the occasional rocket, just as policing can’t stop the occasional murder, but an epic scourging for every attack beyond the random would send the right message. It’s moving that way now.

Bishop on January 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM

AND NOW COMES THE “BLACK DESTINY”…

SURE: FOR HAMAS.

reliapundit on January 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM

ISRAEL IS GOING TO TRY TO CREATE A DEEP BUFFER ZONE WITHIN GAZA AND PREVENT HAMAS FROM REENTERING WITH ANY ROCKETS OR MISSILES.

reliapundit on January 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM

OMG! Look at this Pali crying on FOX about how hamas doesn’t have tanks or planes … aaawwwwwww how sad. They should’ve thought about that before they fired rockets into Israel.

Tony737 on January 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Fear the Juice!

ronsfi on January 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM

reliapundit, Gaza isn’t big enough to have a “deep buffer zone”. They will just have to spend as much time as they can, eliminating the leaders, such as the one Ed reported on, and destroying every weapon they can find in Gaza.

Webrider on January 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM

The late Rabbi Kahane was right about situations like this.

RobCon on January 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM

I am no liberal, but I think in rational terms. What I`m saying if you`ll think clearly, is this. Unless they kill all of them, Hamas leaders, women, old people, children, they`ll always be someone to fight Israel. It`s part of their culture now.

So I ask you, what do you think should happen. Continuous conflict or eliminating every single Palestinian?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

If you are correct then Israel, must kill as many of them as possible in order to save the homeland. You don’t win a fight by making nice.

rplat on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Earlier Saturday, the Air Force attacked a vehicle in Khan Younis carrying Hamas officer Muhammad Maaruf and another group member. The two were reportedly killed in the strike. Saturday morning, a senior Hamas commander was assassinated.
http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html

They got a couple more.

Blake on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

From Israellycool:

8:54PM: The Israeli cabinet has decided to call up tens of thousands of reservists.

Bugler on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Also in the WoT, the French Navy has captured a few Somali pirates … hahaha, you gotta be a serious PUNK to get caught by FRANCE! hahahahahaha

Tony737 on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

These are very high stakes games the Israelis are playing. I assume they intend to re-occupy at least a portion of the Gaza strip. But Hamas has had years to dig in and plan an insurgency campaign, quite possibly with help from their al-Qaeda and Iranian friends. So expect to see hundreds of Israeli casualties subsequent to the initial incursion.

I just don’t know what else Israel can do. Ultimately, I don’t see the Muslims ever stopping. Israel has been at war or under attack by Muslims more or less continuously since its inception. Putting the smack down on a few thousand Hamas guys isn’t going to do any long term damage, because the various Muslim powers propping up the Hamas guys will just supply new cannon fodder loyal mujahadeen…

Outlander on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Blake: The more the merrier. Allah is probably running out of virgins/raisins. Heh.

Webrider on January 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM

What will “failure” look like, though? What, specifically, are they after? Hamas leaders or Qassam caches, or something else?

Unlike most world armies, IDF tends to be very pragmatic. It is my guess they have a strategic goal in mind that requires the ground force to address. They know they have less than 3 weeks to drastically deminish Hamas’ ability to attack them. I’d watch for a result that will take Hamas years to recover from, at least.

The American left may just see what it looks like when you leave a people like Israel with nothing left to lose. They now know they can’t count on us and are probably going to go for broke this time.

MikeA on January 3, 2009 at 2:13 PM

I am no liberal, but I think in rational terms. What I`m saying if you`ll think clearly, is this. Unless they kill all of them, Hamas leaders, women, old people, children, they`ll always be someone to fight Israel. It`s part of their culture now.

So I ask you, what do you think should happen. Continuous conflict or eliminating every single Palestinian?

Number 2…

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

So I ask you, what do you think should happen. Continuous conflict or eliminating every single Palestinian?

Option B, please.

Midas on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

The problems I foresee are capturing soldiers and using them as negotiation pawns for years, and pre-planted explosives exploding among inbound troops. I might have argued going with an amphibious assault on the beach and pushing Hamas back into their own demolition zones. I would also round up every single military aged male and place them in temporary holding camps until operations are done.

crosspatch on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

The really sad part is that we here in the U.S. are the only ones cheering for the IDF, the rest of the world is hoping hamas wins.

Israel and America, making the world a safer place yet the world hates us for it.

Tony737 on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

The Juice’s ground game was always pretty daunting.

thomasaur on January 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM

RobCon on January 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Agreed!

katy on January 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM

The Juice is on the loose. YAY!!

Lance Murdock on January 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Great cartoon. But if I was a betting man, I’d be willing to venture that Warner Brothers burned all their copies on account of camels complaining that it was racist toward them – after all, they don’t all have internal combustion engines.

Ryan Gandy on January 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

ISRAEL IS GOING TO TRY TO CREATE A DEEP BUFFER ZONE WITHIN GAZA AND PREVENT HAMAS FROM REENTERING WITH ANY ROCKETS OR MISSILES.

reliapundit on January 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM

They use to have a buffer zone when THEY OWNED GAZA before our idiot leaders here in the US decided it belonged to islam!

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Then if any attacks come from the surrounding countries as a result of their new Palestinian guests, Israel should open the gates of hell and shove that country right straight through them.

Why aren`t they doing that then? You`d figured being the ones actually going through all this, they come to that conclusion a long time ago.

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

That’s what happens in wars when no one is ever allowed to win. Imagine if we treated the Japanese and Germans this way in WWII.

Well, the key point isn’t how we treated the Japanese and Germans in WWII, but after the war. There was denazification. There was a reform of Shintoism. Israel either needs to expel the muslims or enforce demuslimification, and I mean execute anyone attempting to promote Islam. Islam is the sole obstacle to the possibility of peace. Every other obstacle to peace is surmountable.

Were Western concepts of freedom of religion ever meant to protect a terror cult bent on taking absolute power?

thuja on January 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM

While this is good news, the eyes are off Iran.

And they are working at a feverish pace.

artist on January 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Midas on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

O.k. two votes for genocide.

Seriously?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Isn’t Hamas going to fire off rockets and declare victory anyway after the ground assault?

Isn’t that the same way Hezbollah declared victory? How in the world is Israel ever going to stop Hamas/Hezbollah from repeating this scenario over and over and over again?

scalleywag on January 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

The IAF also hit the home of senior Hamas commander Abu Zacharia Al-Jamal. A Hamas spokesman announced that al-Jamal was killed in the attack, which would make him the third senior operative in the group to be targeted in the past three days.

Now that’s some sweet intel. I’m glad they’re making good use of it.

Go ISRAEL!

Bob's Kid on January 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Putting the smack down on a few thousand Hamas guys isn’t going to do any long term damage,

Puts Hamas on their heels; they have to forge a new command structure and the new guys of course have the knowledge of how their predecessors got scattered across the landscape. Keep whacking the new leaders and force Hamas to put the leftovers in charge. Look at Nasrallah, that puke is hiding in Damascus.

I would expect Israel’s goal is to shatter Hamas to the point that Fatah can regain power, and while they aren’t exactly friends of Israel, they might be more pragmatic about the idea of staying off of Israel’s sh!t list.

Bishop on January 3, 2009 at 2:19 PM

they believed Hamas already had been dealt a heavy blow

We need a “death blow!”

But that will only happen when Syria, Iran and the millions of Juice-haters in the ME are also dealt a “death blow.”

mankai on January 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM

O.k. two votes for genocide.

Seriously?

I’lll make it three. Of course the People of Gaza could choose another path and oust Hamas and decide to live in peace. But somehow I dount they will do that. So…

MikeA on January 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM

O.k. two votes for genocide.

Seriously?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

So, like I said, you are obviously for option number 1. Love your idea of what a solution should look like….. NOT

doriangrey on January 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Midas on January 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM

O.k. two votes for genocide.

Seriously?

If you pose a silly question expect a silly answer! Israel should clear Gaza of all followers of Islam! Send them to whatever country they want to go to. They own HUGE areas of resources and do not “need” this land! Go to Egypt! Go to Iran! Go to Syria! Don’t care! Just leave Israel! You can’t be trusted and you have given up your right to live there! Israel will not commit genocide! Are you serious? These are Jews we are talking about! Good grief!

sabbott on January 3, 2009 at 2:22 PM

But they’ve already done that with the airstrikes. Upping the ante by sending in infantry only leaves them vulnerable

Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster.
– William Tecumseh Sherman

MB4 on January 3, 2009 at 2:22 PM

This is a repeat of the 2006 Lebanon War. Caroline Glick is right. There is nom point in risking soldiers lives on the ground in a conflict that the Israeli government has already decided to lose like they did two years ago in the north.

RobCon on January 3, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I seem to have walked into an alternate reality…are people in this thread really celebrating a war which will leave many civilians dead?

*waits for you’re unpatriotic/anti-semetic rebuttal”

lodge on January 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Exit question: Isn’t Hamas going to fire off rockets and declare victory anyway after the ground assault?

Of course. But an invasion allows for more Hamas leaders to pine for the fjords, more destruction of weapon stashes, and the destruction of tunnels to smuggle in weapons which they estimate to be from 400-600 tunnels.

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/pdf/hamas_e017.pdf

Blake on January 3, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Calls for a cease-fire??? How come there was no calls for a cease-fire when hamas was launching missiles into Israel??? Screw you commie-islamo supporters!

Tony737 on January 3, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Thank you Israel for helping fight our war.

HotAirJosef on January 3, 2009 at 2:24 PM

I’m actually surprised they went in: They can’t stop the rockets and they surely don’t want to reoccupy, so the only goal realistically is to bloody Hamas’s nose. But they’ve already done that with the airstrikes. Upping the ante by sending in infantry only leaves them vulnerable to a 2006 scenario where Hamas “wins” by surviving.

OK, Condi, let me go through it real slow for you:

Moving in ground troops to hit the everloving fark out of the subhuman scum in the terrortories, no matter what the end result, sends this message:

“We can not only bomb you into smithereens at a time of our choosing, but we’re not afraid to move our troops in to wipe your little apish arses off the map either, any time we bloody well want to. And there’s not a damn thing you can do to stop us.

Misha I on January 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Breaking on MSNBC “Israeli Forces kill 11 Palestinian worshipers”

Geeez!

flyboy777 on January 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM

I seem to have walked into an alternate reality…are people in this thread really celebrating a war which will leave many civilians dead?

*waits for you’re unpatriotic/anti-semetic rebuttal”

lodge on January 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM

I gather you refuse to celebrate the 4th of July, VE and VJ Day? For people to live in peace, there must always be war.

Blake on January 3, 2009 at 2:26 PM

The main reason the Israelis have had to deal with the Arabs for thousands of years is their own disobedience….

Numbers 33:55
But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live.

katy on January 3, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Bravo! And don’t stop until they are all destroyed.

rplat on January 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared.
– Niccolo Machiavelli

MB4 on January 3, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Must agree with Theprez,this current offensive won’t change a thing,IDF will pull back,be condemed by the world press,Hamas will claim the moral high ground with help from said press.A short calm,then it all starts again.

budaside on January 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Blake on January 3, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Yeah, those Palestinians…better watch out for them scary bastards. They might fire a rocket across the ocean and hit New York. Thank god Israel are taking care of em for us!

lodge on January 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM

doriangrey on January 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM

O.k. fine. I think you spelled out a new option one for me, boot all Palestinians out to neighboring countries. If Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia go to war with Israel, how long will they last if we don`t jump in? And what do we fight with?

ThePrez on January 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM

AM YISRAEL CHAI!
GO ISRAEL!!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 3, 2009 at 2:29 PM