AP: Paterson close to picking Caroline
posted at 11:45 am on January 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Why appoint an ex-president when you can appoint a princess?
Officials say the daughter of the late President John F. Kennedy will be the governor’s choice to fill the New York Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Two people close to Gov. David Paterson tell The Associated Press they believe Caroline Kennedy will be his choice, but the governor cautions he’s still looking.
She’s back to 87.4 on InTrade after having flirted with 50 earlier this week. God only knows what sort of arm-twisting’s going on to make this happen despite her awful rollout, but I’m darkly impressed by the fact that they got the speaker of the state assembly to flip from sneeringly anti-Caroline to pro-Caroline in less than a week. Camelot truly is a magical place.
So much for the caretaker option, which would have cost New York seniority. All that’s left to do now is wait for the announcement, hoping against hope that it comes on the same day Stuart Smalley’s declared the winner in Minnesota and Democrats inevitably cave to Blago by admitting Burris to the Senate. No sense in spreading our national embarrassment out over a few weeks. Let’s choke it all down in one gulp.
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If he’s going to appoint a pricess I’d prefer that Edwards get the seat.
BadgerHawk on January 2, 2009 at 11:47 AM
so pathetic, and in a couple months the news stories will be how surprisingly smart she is and her grasp of the issues shows she was the correct choice, just sad.
rob verdi on January 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Wow! After what Palin went through?
Democrats show themselves again.
Firebird on January 2, 2009 at 11:50 AM
This is the requisite first step to Patterson voting himself out at the next gubernatorial election.
awake on January 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Wow, New York has become the dumbest State in the Union.
Allah, do you want to move out yet?
upinak on January 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Can’t help but notice; There isn’t an open senate seat for her to fill.
Tommy_G on January 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM
New Yorkers. . . better than you. If you don’t believe it, their anointed Senator will tell you.
ThackerAgency on January 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Is there no leadership left in this country? Disgusting.
JAM on January 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Iowahawk’s take “Senora Kennedy She Make Good Senator” is hilarious.
aquaviva on January 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM
You know, um, er, uh…
HuskerNate on January 2, 2009 at 11:55 AM
I hope he does. The infighting backlash it should create amongst the rejected New Yawk donks will be awesome. Coupled with the Illinois selection, I’m looking forward to the next few weeks, especially if Fitz allows more transcripts to be made public for the impeachment process.
a capella on January 2, 2009 at 11:55 AM
This kind of mess explains why a lot of native New Yorkers got the heck out of Dodge.
I can’t wait to listen to her eloquence on the floor of the Senate. You know?
kingsjester on January 2, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Bored aristocrat assigned as NY senator. Makes perfect sense to me. Good luck with that. Demorats are stuck on stupid these past few weeks and they deserve the representation they get. Which in this case will be er um, you know, um, um, what was the you know, um question?
scalleywag on January 2, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Caroline….. Billary……..Caroline……..Billary…….
Such a tough choice! Must suck to be a New Yorker.
Just flip a coin. You can’t win either way.
UltimateBob on January 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM
If she does get appointed, I hope Rudy runs against her in 2010. You know, I can just imagine the debates, you know.
Jim62sch on January 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM
An appointee Governor appointing an appointee Senator. Something is wrong with this.
Comedian as a U.S. Senator from an upper Midwest state. Half term Senator as U.S. President?
G-D Joke.
FireBlogger on January 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM
And probably the second thing that comes out of her mouth will be for Israel to lay off the poor people in Gaza.
scalleywag on January 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM
There’s an up-side. In one party states like NY and IL, as in Dem primaries, when there’s no Rep. party to fight, the libs fight themselves. Lib haves vs. lib have-nots. Just to add some fuel to the fire, I don’t see why one or both of the NY Senate seats ought not be a black seat. Can’t the governor find a gay or black, qualified or not? This white privilege amongst Dems is disgusting.
JiangxiDad on January 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Now lets wait for the real decider on this one…does Caroline give Mr. Matthews a tingle on any of his body parts?
scalleywag on January 2, 2009 at 12:02 PM
The IL and NY GOPs have GOLDEN opportunities in ‘10, no matter what the final outcome of these dramas are. This is one reason why the GOP chair is so important …
/please don’t screw this up fellas!
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM
One cloudy day in November we held an election, and the circus came to town.
Now it is up to three rings, and counting. The popcorn vendor had to call for more inventory.
Yoop on January 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM
I urged that kings and queens were dangerous. He said, then have cats. He was sure that a royal family of cats would answer every purpose. They would be as useful as any other royal family, they would know as much, they would have the same virtues and the same treacheries, the same disposition to get up shindies with other royal cats, they would be laughably vain and absurd and never know it, they would be wholly inexpensive, finally, they would have as sound a divine right as any other royal house. The worship of royalty being founded in unreason, these graceful and harmless cats would easily become as sacred as any other royalties, and indeed more so, because it would presently be noticed that they hanged nobody, beheaded nobody, imprisoned nobody, inflicted no cruelties or injustices of any sort, and so must be worthy of a deeper love and reverence than the customary human king and queen, and would certainly get it.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on January 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM
“Knock knock”
“Who’s there?”
“Armegeddon”
fogw on January 2, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Clinton’s seat.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Buckaroo,
you have a point and thanks for the silver lining. This is still a sad development, of course a Democrat was going to be chosen, but to see one chosen because the seat is like you know, like a fashion accessory, you know.
rob verdi on January 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM
I wish you were right, but I don’t think you are. The population of NY will take a Rep if they promise the same kind of crap that Dems do. But they’ll be RINO’s in any case.
JiangxiDad on January 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Well, of COURSE Patterson will pick Caroline! He has a re-election campaign to fund and there is zero love lost between the current Junior Senator from New York and the replacement Governor.
Caroline can campaign for Patterson (something HERSELF! can’t) nor will Bubba contribute any time, money or name to Patterson’s campaign. Cuomo the Younger had run-ins with Patterson sometime ago so the bridges may have been burned there.
This whole episode is the trailer for the upcoming Cuomo v. Patterson race. Get the popcorn ready!
SeniorD on January 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM
The reinstitution of Royalty in America is treason against 1776, the Founding Fathers, the U.S. Constitution and the United States of America.
Tav on January 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I don’t think the Democrats are “stuck on stupid” with this at all. Just the opposite – they see her as someone who will “vote party line” very reliably (which Clinton didn’t always do). This solidifies their vote on the issues that will be coming up in the next 2 years. It is definitely a very cynical move, but hardly stupid.
exhelodrvr on January 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM
“JiangxiDad on January 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM”
i didn’t support a president rudy. i can, however, surely live with senator rudy or governor rudy …
/or a reasonable facsimile thereof …
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM
One “airhead” appoints another “airhead. New York will go down just like California soon
HAGGS99 on January 2, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I was trying to be a little sarcastic. My point is that Hillary, hasn’t been appointed to anything yet. It’s not a done deal (really big mistake) for her to be Secretary of State. By the way will she change the job title? I know Hillary would find it degrading to be called a secretary.
Tommy_G on January 2, 2009 at 12:13 PM
“rob verdi on January 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM”
jmo, but caroline’s idiocy will be MOST entertaining, and prolly much less descturctive than duh1’s imminent bumbling …
:-)
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:13 PM
I believe Tommy_G’s point is that Hillary has not been confirmed as SOS just yet.
D2Boston on January 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM
“Tommy_G on January 2, 2009 at 12:13 PM”
well, she allowed herself to be called “first lady” for a time …
/heh
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Whatever happened to the concept of merit in this country?
How is that those who fail (see US auto industry, financial sector, etc.) are rewarded with gov’t bailouts and someone like this woman –who’s accomplished little in her life and contributed almost nothing to the body politic– can slide into a Senate seat simply because she wants it?
Caroline Kennedy should be ashamed of herself. If the people of NY stand by and let this happen, they deserve the inept representation they’ll get if she’s appointed.
Bennett on January 2, 2009 at 12:15 PM
As Ted Stevens proved…intelligence (or lack thereof) is no prerequisite for a Senate seat, or even a leadership position. However, what Caroline does have is a close working relationship with the soon to be president. At a very basic level of political operations that allows her to represent the interests of her state (should she so choose) in a different way than most senators. Though Chuck Schumer is a powerful guy in the senate, he won’t have the kind of hotline access to the president that a Senator Caroline would have. Of course she’s likely to propose policies no one would actually want, but in terms of securing preferential status for NY in those giant spending programs…there are some who stand to gain.
ernesto on January 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Marilyn Monroe was unavailable for comment
Wade on January 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM
“If the people of NY stand by and let this happen, they deserve the inept representation they’ll get if she’s appointed”
and that’s the rub — clearly, patterson hasn;t been gettign loads of angry lcalls and letters against her, so who cna blame him? my hope, as posted above, is that this is his “read my lips” moment that sinks him [and her] the moment they get a crack at him [and her] at the ballot box …
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Hope Mrs. Schlossberg gets crowned but then is promptly tossed out in the next cycle after a bruising primary followed by an absolute blood bath in the general.
The only thing better would be an open range war between Bill Clinton, Mrs. Schlossberg and Team Barry.
moxie_neanderthal on January 2, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Within minutes of her confirmation the MSM will start the President Kennedy campaign.
Anarchist….has a nice ring to it!
dmann on January 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM
She will not only vote the party line, she is “self-financing,” if she chooses to run in 2010. The Dems can raise money for other candidates.
I’d like to see Rudy announce right now that he’s going to run in 2010. Let Caroline see him in her rear-view mirror for the next two years.
Wethal on January 2, 2009 at 12:20 PM
We get the government we deserve. We haven’t voted out all the rat bastards currently sitting in the Senate so why not give the Princess a shot? We are a nation of political masochists. Our self inflicted pain gives us something to bitch about. Bring. It. On.
t.ferg on January 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Barack Obama doesn’t need Caroline Kennedy anymore –if he ever needed her at all– and there’s no reason to think he’s going to take her calls any faster than anyone else’s. And what if he does? Obama can’t make the Senate do anything. And if she tries this tactic too often, she’ll be put in her place by the Senate leadership.
Bennett on January 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM
he could appoint HITLER, and the dems would vote for him as long as he had a D after his name…
right4life on January 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM
It’s pretty much as done a deal as Obama being president. Sure, he could be shot, because apparently that’s something a black man has to deal with on a regular basis (his wife’s words), but he’s going to be the president, and Hillary will be secretary.
Sorry though. I figured you were being sarcastic.
Since when do we want senators with special access? Wouldn’t that instead be an argument against her in the interest of propriety? Otherwise, why not just let Michelle take his Illinois seat.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM
She’s going to work so hard for us New Yorkers. You know, at least 1-2 hours per week you know. At least I live upstate where it’s red as a mofo.
V15J on January 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM
I thought Patterson had balls…..
DeathToMediaHacks on January 2, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Esthier,
“Since when do we want senators with special access?”
WE don’t, but New Yorkers certainly would.
exhelodrvr on January 2, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I really do question the mind of Caroline Kennedy — her mental health, whatever the cause/s may be that affect her very strange behavior.
She’s not interested in running for the Senate. Yet we’re supposed to then believe she’s going to “work tirelessly” if SELECTED to the Senate.
Combine those irrational statements with her (very) strange speech impediment/s and I wonder, why are Democrats, WHY are they so intent on lodging nincompoops and na’er-do-wells in Congress and the White House? They continue to launch and then wrangle into office these various people who seem to be the least trustworthy and/or least capable and/or most badly intentioned and/or behaved among the American public. Is this a PROCESS by which we are to eventually be made into the most incompetent nation on earth? I think so.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:29 PM
“why not just let Michelle take his Illinois seat”
do NOT give them any ideas!
:-0
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:29 PM
If anyone pays close attention to NY politics, its obvious our speaker got his pound of flesh. The man does nothing unless he’s paid off somehow. He’s one of the most corrupt politicians in NY history. And that says something!
kcluva on January 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Wow, New York has become the dumbest State in the Union.
Allah, do you want to move out yet?
upinak on January 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Easy now, don’t be stealing Minnesota’s thunder on the eve of our electing the biggest moron since Murtha.
I would move to Alaska, but I just saw “30 Days of Night” and noticed that you people have a vampire problem.
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM
As for our new senate Princess, what can you say; these aren’t the days of Jefferson and Adams any longer.
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM
I wonder: would just giving Caroline Kennedy a grand tiara and a royal high-falootin’-chair she could “reign in” be sufficient to fulfill the Left’s “need” for “royalty”? Maybe start handing out plastic tiaras to Democrats and encrusted staffs or something and just call them all “King,” “Queen” and “Lord” or “Earl Whosits” and be done with it?
That is, not that they’d BE any of those things, just continue to refer to them like that as long as they’re lulled into “assuming their reign” like one would do to a deluded sufferer so they’d be secure more hours than not.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM
If Shelley the S**theel flipped, you better believe he’s getting something for doing so.
That’s how Shelley rolls, baby! He doesn’t do anything unless he’s getting something in return.
TC@LeatherPenguin on January 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM
This is one reason why the GOP chair is so important…
The GOP? I assumed they had all taken a vow of silence and applied for probationary membership in the Democrat Party? I mean with all this stench of corruption, patronism, racial entitlement and nepotism going on, it must be either that or they have already been taken to a re-education camp, because I haven’t heard squat from them.
Maybe they are jealous…
drunyan8315 on January 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM
You know she’s next anyway. Let’s just get it over with.
Sure. They probably wish these seats were given based on population as well so that we can forget about calling ourselves united states.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM
For all the supposed “smart” people in New York….what a total joke.
cblesz on January 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM
What ever made you think that?
UltimateBob on January 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM
OBVIOUSLY, Caroline Kennedy and many other Democrats have an entirely unique definition of what “work hard” (if not, “work” altogether) means.
To Caroline Kennedy, it appears to mean about what Obama means by the same term, which isn’t at all related IN REALITY to “work” but to something else moreorless resembling “delusion.”
So they think they’re doing “it” while what they’re actually doing is what most people would define as “making stuff up.” And not in a very creative fashion but something more closely resembling breathing in and out.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I would think that having 30 days of night would be reason enough. Alaska seems beautiful, but also, very, very cold.
I’m a Texan. That’s just too much for me to live in, though I’d love to visit some day, hopefully while Palin’s still in charge.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Honestly, I’d feel better if she’d at least held a real job first. I mean the adjustment won’t be easy. She probably won’t like it.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Heck, these ain’t even the days of Taft and Hoover. We seem to be moving back to the days of Heuy Long and Boss Tweed.
The finest politicians money can buy!
kingsjester on January 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Pay to Play baby. Chicago politics….New York Style.
PappaMac on January 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM
“Our”!?! These are Democrat embarrassments; by all means, let them suffer every moment of them.
Kensington on January 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I’ve arrived at the same conclusion. About New York, about Chicago, certainly about San Francisco, most of Seattle, Los Angeles and other Democrat/Liberal enclaves.
For all the hoity-toityness the Left flaunts in deigning to speak to and about the Right, the Left sure is a stupid lot.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Alaska seems beautiful, but also, very, very cold.
I also considered Texas but was then informed that you have spiders large enough to drag people off.
I can’t win.
Wait…what about Utah?
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM
E-gads, I can’t imagine Caroline Kennedy actually makin’ copies. Or reading a clock. You know, the dreary details of doing “work” for most human beings at one time or another, however high or low the title.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:42 PM
“Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM”
IF she were to actually try it, do u think the people of IL are that astoundingly stupid to go along with it?
/perhaps i don’t want to hear the answer …
Buckaroo on January 2, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Drive by observation. I don’t see our trolls stopping in to defend this. Are we no longer even worthy of having the proverbial stick-poking to rattle our cages?
I would think this kind of In-Your-Face hypocrisy would illicit some thumb-on-the-nose taunting. If my party could get away with this kind of crap, I sure would over at DU and HuffPo. Oh wait, they don’t let you post opposing POV over there. Never mind.
It’s a great world with liberals in charge isn’t it?
hawkdriver on January 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM
We get the government we deserve, so let’s have the Princess. We can’t bring ourselves to vote out the dirty rats who are already there, why not let in some more? We’re a nation of political masochists. We thrive on being abused by our political class just so we can have something to be miserable about. We talk like we want the abuse to end but we just can’t bring ourselves to put a stop to it.
Let us have the Princess. Let us have our misery and love it!
t.ferg on January 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Heck, these ain’t even the days of Taft and Hoover. We seem to be moving back to the days of Heuy Long and Boss Tweed.
I’ll see your Tweed and raise you a King George III. This liberal entitlement shat is getting out of hand, especially when a complete brick like Caroline thinks she’s owed a senate seat because of her name.
What next, we start appointing Army officers based on their standing in their local communities?
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Mention a certain chief executive of our 49th state and the trolls will come running like doctors to a golf course.
Jim62sch on January 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM
This reasserts the preposterous uninformed reality that is Barack Obama. Here he is flaunted by the Left (as is Caroline Kennedy) as being “a Constitutional expert” and yet Obama made many declarations (with that performance of “authority” he uses which is anything but indicative of that) about things he’d do and other contexts directly affected/directed by the Constitution which were NOT INFORMED STATEMENTS. He’d do this, that, he’d “have” such “done” and whatnot, he’d been where, there, that, and with nearly all of his posed declarations, they revealed that he not only was NOT an “expert” but he was entirely not familiar with the Constitution.
I can barely imagine how convoluted a discussion might be in Congress with the likes of Caroline Kennedy, Pelosi, Frank, Biden, Obama (there anyway), and Bill loitering around making threats and urging the swaying of various options…just imagine the torturous distortions they’d be “discussing” as to our Constitution.
These are poster children for how badly intellectualized and oftentimes poorly educated despite the degrees many Liberals actually are.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Money talks.
LastRick on January 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM
That and we’re not exactly the red state we used to be. We were fairly dark purple this election. I blame Austin.
Very safe bet.
Esthier on January 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM
I can barely imagine how convoluted a discussion might be in Congress with the likes of Caroline Kennedy
Caroline could discuss the finer points of eyebrow shaving.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2008/12/29/caroline-kennedy-beauty-queen.aspx
Bishop on January 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Do you realize of the people you listed, Bill Clinton is actually the sharpest?
Scary, ain’t it?
kingsjester on January 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Has Biden’s son been officially appointed to replace his father for the Delaware senate seat?
jerseyman on January 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Perhaps Caroline and Byrd (W. Virginia) could perform a duet?
jerseyman on January 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM
The DNC: Vanity Party.
Pelosi with her facelifts and other plastics and her husband’s millions to keep her safely sequestered in insanity out of touch with “practical details” — Reid secured in some sort of what-looks-to-be privileged senility — Frank gone insane with moral decrepitude or else inherently insane and inherently decrepit (doesn’t matter, same result) — Obama who could literally be anyone from anywhere for as little as has ever been substantiated about the, uhhh, ‘guy’ — the list on the Left goes on and on and on, there’s no center there, there’s no moral fiber there, there’s little to build upon and with, there’s certainly nothing there but vanity.
Vanity, elections made a joke because democracy is their antagonist, “popularity contests” based upon vanity, whose face is tighter, whose suits are shaped better than who’s, who has the bigger jet, highest ‘rating’…it’s all vanity built upon vanity among the Left.
S on January 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I thought AP was going to run to try to get an atheist in there? What happened to that? I already ordered my campaign button. You could do it AP. You don’t have to reveal your identity. That guy in Minnesota voted for the ‘Lizard People’ so I think we could have ‘Allahpundit’ on the ballot.
meltenn on January 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Intelligence is a moot point when character is ailing. Lots of “smart people” in prison for serious crimes.
S on January 2, 2009 at 1:01 PM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2008/12/29/caroline-kennedy-beauty-queen.aspx
…another ghastly “family” with another round of ghastly descendants forced into our nation’s government.
S on January 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Confining my point to New York only, a Monty Python comedy writer could not write this story….
A former Attorney General who made his bones by aggressively pursing white-collar crime is elected Governor only to have to resign after being caught with a high-dollar hooker when, in his middle ages, he decides **ahem** that he is Greek after all. His replacement, a blind guy, has to immediately admit to prior cocaine use and his past infidelities. The state’s junior Senator, after losing a bruising primary campaign in which the votes of two states were only partially counted and accusing her opponent of all kinds of skulldrugery, is named as the nominee for SecState, thereby opening her senate seat. The blind Governor is asked to appoint Princess Camelot, who despite her deep family involvement in politics, has never been elected to anything, has the thinnest of political donations history, and can barely put a sentence together without interrupting herself. Her only apparent qualification for office is that her name is known, and that she has a va-jay-jay. A trial ballon is offered of the SecState-to-be’s husband, but in the years since he left office (after being impeached and nearly removed from office over his lying over his philandering), he has spent much of his time collecting riches from foreign governments.
Nope. Nobody would believe anything like this.
azlibertarian on January 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM
DeathToMediaHacks,
So did I, if this turns out be his choice I am done with him, I was willing to give him a shot because Spitzer was so odious.
rob verdi on January 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Welcome to the Nepotistic States of America. This country has turned into an elitist sewer of incompetance, and crookedness.
rplat on January 2, 2009 at 1:14 PM
No, Minner appointed a caretaker (Biden family flunky) for two years, since Biden’s son is a JAG who got called to active duty in Iraq. Caretaker won’t run for re-election.
Wethal on January 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Gov. Patterson:
Blind:Check
Deaf:?
Dumb:Check (picking Kennedy)
portlandon on January 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM
I understand GOP Rep. Pete King might also run for the NY senate seat in 2010. Imagine the fun of Caroline trying to appeal to blue-collar voters. Lifting a beer in a working class bar in Buffalo…?
Wethal on January 2, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Better than Al Franken. So NY has that going for it.
angryed on January 2, 2009 at 1:25 PM
With Caroline’s appointment, the Democrat Party confirms it does not require passing an IQ test to be a Democrat.
SeniorD on January 2, 2009 at 1:25 PM
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