Newspaper bailouts coming to Connecticut?

posted at 11:17 am on January 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I wrote a month ago about the possibility of government bailouts for failing newspapers, and in Connecticut it appears the notion has gained steam.  Unfortunately, some state lawmakers want to transfer capital from taxpayers to failing private enterprises, which we’ve seen on a national level for the last two months.  Their rationalizations make clear that the lawmakers have no concept of media, democracy, or common sense (via Michelle):

Connecticut lawmaker Frank Nicastro sees saving the local newspaper as his duty. But others think he and his colleagues are setting a worrisome precedent for government involvement in the U.S. press.

Nicastro represents Connecticut’s 79th assembly district, which includes Bristol, a city of about 61,000 people outside Hartford, the state capital. Its paper, The Bristol Press, may fold within days, along with The Herald in nearby New Britain.

That is because publisher Journal Register, in danger of being crushed under hundreds of millions of dollars of debt, says it cannot afford to keep them open anymore.

Newspapers face difficult futures. Readership has declined for print media even while it increases for their on-line sites. Printing papers is an expensive process, as is delivery, and more and more people seem disinclined to access news in that manner. Newspapers will eventually have to abandon newsprint and refashion themselves into a more generic news-delivery service and find new economic models to survive.

Unfortunately, Nicastro and his allies want to prop up an old, failing model with taxpayer subsidies. They feel that news media are too important to democracy, but fail to understand why — and even some media figures have trouble understanding it:

Nicastro and fellow legislators want the papers to survive, and petitioned the state government to do something about it. “The media is a vitally important part of America,” he said, particularly local papers that cover news ignored by big papers and television and radio stations. …

Former Miami Herald Editor Tom Fiedler said that a democracy has an obligation to help preserve a free press.

“I truly believe that no democracy can remain healthy without an equally healthy press,” said Fiedler, now dean of Boston University’s College of Communication. “Thus it is in democracy’s interest to support the press in the same sense that the human being doesn’t hesitate to take medicine when his or her health is threatened.”

The only reason — the only reason — that news media is vital to a democracy is its independence from government.  Think about this.  Is The National Enquirer vital to democracy?  Will the Republic fall if Entertainment Weekly suddenly closed its doors?  Not at all, not even if the entire paparazzi industry suddenly collapsed.

The need for a truly independent media is to make sure that the citizenry is fully informed of government activity and policy, and not just relying on the self-serving communications from elected officials.  Without independence, newspapers and other media have as much value as press releases from Congressional offices.

Now, what happens when government suddenly takes a stake in newspapers and other media?  Can they remain independent — or will they cater themselves to those politicians who support those subsidies and target politicians who don’t?  In fact, the very act of asking for those bailouts has destroyed their independence and credibility on political matters, the very core of what makes a free media necessary for a democracy.

At this point, the best possible outcome would be to let the newspapers crash and burn.  They’re worthless now as an independent voice in Connecticut.  If the market demand remains for print-and-deliver newspapers, then we will see private capital form to meet the demand.  If not, then all the taxpayer subsidies in the world would not have saved them anyway.

Update: Gary Gross has similar thoughts in his post, “Let Them Die”.


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The buggy whip companies?

thomasaur on January 1, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Well writ.

unclesmrgol on January 1, 2009 at 11:23 AM

It’s ironic to note that the “progressives” are consistently behind the curve on the economic front.

Newspapers, automakers, etc. are in a failing business model. Few clear-thinking people believe media can withstand the rapid pace of change in the 21st century with their 20th (19th?) century business model of paper dailies, etc. in cities and towns from sea to shining sea. Why wait for a printer to slap the words on paper, distribute it to homes/newstands, and read it hours or days after it’s done when you can read it online minutes or even seconds after it’s written?

Some newspapers will remain. The dying ones won’t be saved by taxpayer $, and should not be.

(Rant over. Thanks).

cs89 on January 1, 2009 at 11:26 AM

At this point, the best possible outcome would be to let the newspapers crash and burn.

Easy for you to say. If there is one thing to be learned in all of this, it is that everyone has a price.

jay12 on January 1, 2009 at 11:28 AM

In a stunning development, Reuters fails to note Nicastro is a Democrat.

JammieWearingFool on January 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Che would be proud. “The People’s News” >:(

mindhacker on January 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM

so dangerous that even some liberals might fear this.

rob verdi on January 1, 2009 at 11:31 AM

cs89,

The reason why is that Communism and Marxism are so 20th century and for these “progressives” time stopped in 1968.

Unfortunately for all of us these “progressives” now have the keys to the treasury.

Nahanni on January 1, 2009 at 11:33 AM

If they take government money, they should change their names. Collie, what do you suggest?

My collie says:

The Herald Hope and Change

I think The Bristol Press Pravda would work, as well.

CyberCipher on January 1, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Connecticut lawmaker Frank Nicastro sees saving the local newspaper as his duty.

I’m just going to keep saying it, because it fits so many things:

On a cloudy November day we held an election, and the circus came to town.

Yoop on January 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM

so dangerous that even some liberals might fear this.

rob verdi on January 1, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Agreed. Remind the left that Fox News and National Review are part of “the press” and see their heads explode (sort of like mine is doing right now).
__________

RJGatorEsq. on January 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Connecticut lawmaker Frank Nicastro sees saving the local newspaper as his duty.

Then Frankie should step down from his position in government buy the paper and become a publisher. (Using his own damn money!)

thomasaur on January 1, 2009 at 11:39 AM

How could a paper report on government if its very livelihood depends on the politicians who hold the loans over their heads? The answer, they report what the politicians want.

rob verdi on January 1, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Government with power over the press. Haven’ heard anything like this since 1930s Europe.

Tommy_G on January 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM

RJGatorEsq,
its that among other things.

rob verdi on January 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM

“The need for a truly independent media is to make sure that the citizenry is fully informed of government activity and policy”

Correct.

Therefore, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the Slimes and it’s ilk should be FORCED out of business as soon as possible.

We WOULD get better information from the National Enquirer.

notagool on January 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM

The only reason — the only reason — that news media is vital to a democracy is its independence from government.

Like those bastions of impartiality, PBS & NPR.

jgapinoy on January 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Do we want a “healthy free press?” Yes. But these media outlets are obviously not healthy, indeed, this last election cycle showed how deeply broken much of the national media establishment is.

We as a society have NO obligation to support “news” institutions that cannot attract sufficient readers by themselves to stay in business. The news business has been and must continue to change, and one of these necessary changes is for them to realize that their practice of serving as shills for one political party and skewing their coverage for political purposes is killing them.

All a government bailout does is square the circle and make it even less likely that these media businesses will adapt or fail, and tie them even more closely to the Democratic Party for their survival. State-owned media, anyone??

EasyEight on January 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM

CyberCipher on January 1, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Pravda, yes and Russia would say;

“Он работает для нас comrads, привыкнуть к нему”

(It works for us comrads, get used to it)

FireBlogger on January 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Besides the fact that people do not subscribe to news they consider bias and solely a leftard mouthpiece, people are just not relying on print media for their news. It’s outdated. Did anyone step in to bailout the 8-Track industry? No!

Blake on January 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM

It’s like making me pay for the bullet they use to execute me.

snaggletoothie on January 1, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Did anyone step in to bailout the 8-Track industry? No!

Blake on January 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM

The matchbook industry took a hit at about this time and disposable lighters took off. (just sayin’)

thomasaur on January 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I wrote about the perfect solution for these newspapers here. The first bit of advice I’d give is “Let them die.”

LFRGary on January 1, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I think J.B., White hit on the theme, that is being left out of the “times” we are living through.

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/12/a-quote-to-end-the-year-earn-this.html

Dr Evil on January 1, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Can the 60s (Worst) Generation just DIE already?

Thank you.

ex-Democrat on January 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

The need for a truly independent media is to make sure that the citizenry is fully informed of government activity and policy, and not just relying on the self-serving communications from elected officials biased reporters.

Hell, give ‘em the money. They’re in the tank anyway, so why not just make it official?

BacaDog on January 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Hell, they bail those papers out, I’m gonna start my own “local” paper next week. Can just about guarantee that I’ll be bankrupt in about 4 or 5 days. Then I’ll get in line for some “free” money. Just to tide me over until things get better under the Obamassiah. Couple million is all I ask.

GarandFan on January 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I knew Benjamin Franklin and Senator Representative Frank Nicastro, you’re no Benjamin Franklin.

ericdijon on January 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Can the 60s (Worst) Generation just DIE already?

Thank you.

ex-Democrat on January 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I was born in the early 60s. The great sadness of my live is that I will never live long enough to be free of all the hippies.

Tommy_G on January 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

The online revolution is why papers are going down. This has been the case for quite a while. What the hell is a bailout going to fix? Who’s verufying these stories before they dole the money out? This has to be fixed or no trillions are going to help ever.

johnnyU on January 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

The only reason — the only reason — that news media is vital to a democracy is its independence from government.

Bingo.

If this Orwellian protection of “the free press” occurs as these idiots recommend then The Bristol Press, and every paper in the country who follows this route, should just rename themselves Pravda.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Our leadership has failed us in a major way.

johnnyU on January 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM

To paraphrase BO “We, are the ones THEY’VE been waiting for.”

For libs, whatever the question, the answer is “your money.”

Mojave Mark on January 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Is The National Enquirer vital to democracy? Will the Republic fall if Entertainment Weekly suddenly closed its doors?

I’d have to think about it for a minute. Is either of those the one with the current front page showing bikini-clad, overweight celebrity women with cellulite-rippled bottoms?

whitetop on January 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

For anyone who needs a newspaper everyday, they can just select “Print…”

pedestrian on January 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

We WOULD get better information from the National Enquirer.

notagool on January 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Regarding John Edwards, we DID get better information from the National Enquirer.

James on January 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

This is so obviously wrong it’s scary.

tartan on January 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

I guess this goes along with Obama’s statement that we the people consume the “wrong” news.

18-1 on January 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

The only reason to bailout newspapers is because the professional politicians would lose their syncophantic media support.

SeniorD on January 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

For libs, whatever the question, the answer is “your money.”

Mojave Mark on January 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Well, they have either hit, or are close to hitting, their goal of having 51% of the population living off the work of 49%. The whole two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner idea…

18-1 on January 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Let Them Fail! No more bailouts.

xplodeit on January 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

This is disgusting . . . the best thing that could happen to this Republic would be that 99% of those left wing rags go broke and go out of business. Their pandering to the new Marxist regime is going to get down right nauseating.

rplat on January 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

If Congress gives the MSM 1-cent, the “free press” title will officially have been destroyed. Personally, I feel the media has already been destroyed and is no longer entitled to the special privileges given. 2008 is the year that the “free press” officially died, and government propaganda in America became a known reality.

Keemo on January 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM

“They’ll make legislators an offer they can’t refuse”

If CT legislators vote “no” on the bailout, what will happen? Will newspapers then go the extra mile on reporting on their sexual piccadillos, drunk driving arrests of their relatives, and gambling debts from the horse track?

One can’t help but wonder that Republicans will be the victims of this extortion more so than the Dems.

ericdondero on January 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Our leadership has failed us in a major way.
johnnyU on January 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Yes Johnny, you couldn’t be more accurate…

Keemo on January 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Newspapers ran by the Government will be the last leg. We will be screwed! If they can’t make it. Let them die! Here in Ca. Most of the papers are Liberal and I don’t read them anymore. Did anyone hear that Fox Business News is suing the US Treasury? They want Paulson to cough up what he did with money that is unaccounted for. About time someone is trying to get answers. Paulson needs to be sued and have his finances gone through. Paulson gave some of his friends money too. That is how I see it. America’s biggest Heist! Now it is a New Year. Or is it?

sheebe on January 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

“I truly believe that no democracy can remain healthy without an equally healthy press,” said Fiedler, now dean of Boston University’s College of Communication. “Thus it is in democracy’s interest to support the press in the same sense that the human being doesn’t hesitate to take medicine when his or her health is threatened.”

So, Dean Fiedler, you are advocating injecting growth hormone into the tumor.

Today’s “Press” ceased to be healthy long ago. It is the Press that is the sickness affecting our country. For my own take, only a free and fair Press deserves legal protections. These pikers are neither, and deserve none.

TugboatPhil on January 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

It’s going to happen. It has to happen. There is no way it can’t happen.

Weight of Glory on January 1, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Oh heck, the AP is already in the pocket of the left. What’s a few newspapers going to do?

/sarc

Ryan Gandy on January 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Any baby news yet?

tikvah on January 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

By the way, does anyone know what happened to the people that ran the telegram system?

Reading Atlas Shrugged does funny things to your mind.

Count to 10 on January 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM

To paraphrase BO “We, are the ones THEY’VE been waiting for.”

A significant portion of our population– useful idiots.

jgapinoy on January 1, 2009 at 12:59 PM

While we’re considering the demise of newspapers, Patterico’s Los Angeles Dog Trainer Year in Review is right on time.

Pablo on January 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The NY Slimes cannot be far behind.

drjohn on January 1, 2009 at 1:05 PM

“I truly believe that no democracy can remain healthy without an equally healthy press,”

Sometimes euthanasia is the right answer. Killing off the press is what might save this country. One can no longer discern where network news ends and Mario Lopez begins.

The healthy press will be here in ether.

drjohn on January 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Sheesh. The Bristol Press really does suck. Maybe if they hired some new editors they could improve their readership and bottom line.

I realize this is the secular progressive Northeast, but how many people are interested in yawn-worthy predictions for 2009 featuring a “shamanic practitioner”, a card reader who peddles her craft at a shop called “Apples, Brooms and Caldrons” (whose specialty is wiccan and pagan items), and a professional astrologer?

Buy Danish on January 1, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Recall the outrage at the revelations that the Bush Administration paid some reporters to write favorable stories. At the time this was roundly denounced all over the place as compromising our fundamental freedoms.

But somehow outright government ownership of the press does not compromise the press? I just cannot fathom the depths of self-deception that it takes to engage in the level of hypocrisy that these folks engage in.

In my kids’ high school they have a one semester course in civics. It is required for graduation, but is only offered in the last semester of their senior year – exactly when “senior-itis” is most pervasive. It is a known “blow off” course that is nearly impossible to flunk. Thus the civics education in what is laughingly called “the great State of Texas.” With this kind of perpetrated educational fraud in a RED state it is little wonder that our political leaders have no sense of our founding ideals.

On a parting note, this “great State of Texas” educational system requires four years of Texas history. Gotta keep the priorities straight, don’t we?

ss396 on January 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM

But Ed, jobs are at stake here. Republicans must take leadership on this issue and not fail to act because not acting is not an option.

Buddahpundit on January 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Meanwhile, many bloggers and talk show hosts blog and talk for free when they’re NOT earning a living doing something else.

How about a bloggertalker bailout from their day jobs (if they still have them)?

Barrack on January 1, 2009 at 1:14 PM

How did that phrase go…

‘In other news, Pravda, the state sponsored……’

BigWyo on January 1, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Newspapers are already full of “progressives;” i.e. people who think that there are problems in the world and that government is the solution to those problems. They march lock-step with Democrats. Readers have rejected that notion. I only get the local paper for the comics and sports to read with breakfast, the rest is worthless.

rbj on January 1, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Maybe Nicastro could take his stagecoach over to the Apple store and buy a clue. He could see that by the time something is printed, everybody in the world already knows it and has discussed it.

But then, this is really just about his power and contributors

billypaintbrush on January 1, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Oops. The tree huggers found out about this newspaper bailout thing and are upset about all the additional trees that will be killed as a result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA

.

mikepatr on January 1, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I’m in Ct. We’re taking 1 day a week unemployment in a creative state plan. If things get worse it will go to 2 days a week.

Maybe that’s what they are talking about.

Lonetown on January 1, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Now, what happens when government suddenly takes a stake in newspapers and other media?

Actually, the question emerging from 2008, and the total Pravdaization of the MSM, is:

What happens when newspapers and other media suddenly take a stake in the government?

But, this is what happens when the New York Slimes is allowed to print national security secrets and no one even has to defend that decision in court, let alone be staring down the business end of a treason verdict.

progressoverpeace on January 1, 2009 at 2:07 PM

The only way for this to work is to eliminate the editorial section of such rescued papers. Having the editorial page have a direct financial interest in government is no different than that government directly controlling it, like Pravda or the Reich ministry of propaganda.

JIMV on January 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM

It’s two thousand and nine and I am developing a nasty disposition.

Bail me out

Kini on January 1, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Look at how the Feds call the tune with local schools, even though they provide only about 5% of schools revenue.

SouthernRoots on January 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM

JIMV on January 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Good luck separating editorials from “news”. Like this story from the Bristol News:

The resolution passed by the council said there is “no longer any debate in the scientific community that climate disruption is a reality and that human activities are largely responsible for increasing concentrations of global warming pollution.”

On the one hand they are reporting on the activities of the Bristol City Council. On the other hand that statement is an outright lie and easily refuted.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM

My cockatoo says:

Of course these newspapers should be kept alive… for me to poop on!

rockbend on January 1, 2009 at 2:31 PM

The DemocRATs will insist on bailing out their campaign outlet! How will they get their message to the American people unfiltered without the MSM?

sabbott on January 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM

It’s all good, folks. If all the papers fail, I’m sure the Obama Propaganda Ministry will take up the slack. See, nothing to worry about.

Isn’t change fun?

hillbillyjim on January 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Now, what happens when government suddenly takes a stake in newspapers and other media? Can they remain independent — or will they cater themselves to those politicians who support those subsidies and target politicians who don’t?

For reference see the FCC and the Fairness Doctrine.

Stephen Macklin on January 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Lost in all of this discussion – soaring state deficits. We’re looking at being in the red by billions for the fiscal year that starts this coming July, several billion when the two year budget is done.

If I wasn’t trapped in Connecticut by circumstances beyond my control, I would have left years ago… Silliness like this only adds to my desire to leave.

darkpixel on January 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM

No dice. Period!

Mason on January 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM

I live in Connecticut, I’ve read these papers, and frankly, if one penny of tax payer money is given to any of them to prop them up, I invite the whole of America to ignore the state of Connecticut whenever possible: boycott us.

If you have to come here, be stingy: don’t go out and take in the nightspots, don’t go to any of the high end restaurants, basically, try to avoid spending money wherever and whenever possible for the duration of your stay.

You see, folks here in Connecticut are, by and large, a bunch of idiots. Last election, despite close to two decades of continuing social and economic decline, every single incumbent, with the exception of Chris Shays, was re-elected to their seat in the state and federal legislatures to continue on their merry way, driving the state economy, and quality of life here, further into the tank.

Perhaps, it’s time for the people of this state to take a hit so hard, and compounded by the current recession so devastating, that they actually start thinking again.

We can’t do it alone though. We need your help.

Boycott Connecticut.

It’s the only way we’ll learn.

SuperCool on January 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM

It’s like making me pay for the bullet they use to execute me.

When the communist revolutionaries executed the Russian Royal Family, that is exactly what they did.

keep the change on January 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I just heard Town Criers are looking for a bailout! If they don’t get the money, how else will people get the news without men walking through the town square, ringing handbells, and yelling out the news. They must be saved for the future of democracy!

PatMac on January 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM

keep the change on January 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM

The Chinese are still doing it, and I must say; they’ve been making a killing.

Laura in Maryland on January 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Me thinks,’the fairness doctrine’

should be applied,it will be the

doctrine to be fair to let the

print media of the Liberal Ministry

of Propaganda to,

die!

canopfor on January 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM

When the communist revolutionaries executed the Russian Royal Family, that is exactly what they did.

keep the change on January 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM

we’re privy to the death of choice…

we are all being forced into front row seats as well.

Free market choice is killing those papers and free market choice is what is hurting the big three and what the Democrats and some Republicans are telling us is “f**k your choice not to give them your money or commerce WE are saying you’ll pay one way or the other.

This is akin to the parable of the turtle and the scorpion http://www.snopes.com/critters/malice/scorpion.asp

the decline of the free market and liberty we are watching will be fast or slow based on one variable….

the ultimate loyalty of the US military.

If the military is truly as mercenary as the liberals pretend to lament we’ll see the free press dead in less than four years, otherwise it will take about ten and the press will voluntarily surrender their freedom so long as a democrat is the master.

The punchline will be the first newsie who takes their professional ethics seriously and tries to Watergate a democrat thus empowered will find out they were the turtle and Obame$$iah and the Congre$$ were scorpions.

“but Mr. Obame$$iah we helped get you power by willfully not vetting you…..”

“and you knew I was a Marxian ideologue.”

sven10077 on January 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM

This is the final push for the National Nazi Democratic party. Controlling the news the masses gets. They already own the TV news. ABC CNN NBC MSNBC and a host of others.

Hail to the great “O” Dumbo.The Messiah.

Hmm Sounds like a repeat of the 30′s.

Rick007 on January 1, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Didn’t he say he wanted a private military funded as much as the regular military

Rick007 on January 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM

The only reason — the only reason — that news media is vital to a democracy is its independence from government.

You are a reactionary Ed Morrissey. The news media should be controlled by the state. Comrade Frank Nicastro is following my example and has it right.

PootyPoot on January 1, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Didn’t he say he wanted a private military funded as much
as the regular military

Rick007 on Jan 1,2009 at 6:02PM.

Rick007:You mean Hopey’s,

Roman Temple Pillar Troopers of Perpetual Hope
and NeverEnding Change Brigade?

Or,

the,

‘Civilian National Secruity Forces’,

that are,

“Just as Powerful”

“Just as Strong”

“Just as well Funded”?

canopfor on January 1, 2009 at 6:47 PM

It’s like making me pay for the bullet they use to execute me.
When the communist revolutionaries executed the Russian Royal Family, that is exactly what they did.

keep the change on January 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Back in “the day” you had to “pay the hangman”. If you tipped him before he set the noose he would make sure it was set correctly. If you didn’t tip he would set it where you would linger for a while. It was the “dead or dance option”.

JonRoss on January 1, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Nicastro ? That explains it.

JonRoss on January 1, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Did anyone get an email from the Obama star chamber signed by Pedesto asking for input into the new administration ? I don’t recall signing up for Obammail. There was a place to unsubscribe and when I did it asked me why I wanted to. I don’t think I have ever had that happen before. I basically said they could go frock themselves. It was just a little weird. I will probably be on the no fly list after the 20th.

JonRoss on January 1, 2009 at 7:02 PM

It’s like making me pay for the bullet they use to execute me.

snaggletoothie on January 1, 2009 at 11:53 AM

The Russians did that!!!! They made the family’s pay for the bullet to execute the condemned.

grapeknutz on January 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM

There was a place to unsubscribe and when I did it asked me why I wanted to. I don’t think I have ever had that happen before. I basically said they could go frock themselves. It was just a little weird. I will probably be on the no fly list after the 20th.

JonRoss on January 1, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Don’t worry about the no-fly list. That’s kids’ stuff. The IRS will be knocking at your door, telling you what you’ve really won.

progressoverpeace on January 1, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Funny after hearing the media talk about Detroit’s inability to keep with the times, they should look in the mirror.

LevStrauss on January 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM

A funny thing happened this evening. I did a post on the subject as well and a Mr. Robert MacMillan (the same Robert MacMillan that wrote the Reuters article) commented on the post, taking me to task for coming to the same conclusion that the rest of the posters on the subject did. Yet I did not see his comments on any other blog on the subject….

Curious….

http://www.ladieslogic.com/2009/01/bailout-mania.html

LL

Lady Logician on January 1, 2009 at 10:13 PM

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