Quote of the day
posted at 9:31 pm on December 30, 2008 by Allahpundit
“The real change in the president, in my opinion, didn’t actually happen until that Friday, when he traveled to New York. The situation on Tuesday was so—you really didn’t have time to reflect. In New York, the range of emotions that he went through—standing on the rubble, the bullhorn moment, but just as important, when he sat there in that room in private and met with those people who were still trying to learn the whereabouts of their loved ones, and hugging them, and where he got the badge.
He always gets asked, Have you changed?, and he instinctively recoils at that kind of question. But when something like this happens on your watch, there’s no way it can’t change you. It can’t not change your worldview—and it obviously changed his in a way that has been controversial for a lot of people.”
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I have no problem with people asking for responsibility. You can blame Bush for a whole lot of things but seriously blaming 9/11 on Bush is ridiculous. If a woman is walking down the street in the night and gets attacked. Are you going to say, “Take responsibility, woman. The street wasn’t properly lit and you still walked through here. Therefore, it’s your fault you were attacked”?
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:32 AM
No doubt.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Murphy was a grunt.
Murphy9 on December 31, 2008 at 12:35 AM
MB4 on December 31, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Nice going, could have gone the rest of my life without hearing that name.
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 12:35 AM
In case you haven’t noticed Bush isn’t particularly popular among conservatives these days, and for good reason.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM
have no problem with people asking for responsibility. You can blame Bush for a whole lot of things but seriously blaming 9/11 on Bush is ridiculous. If a woman is walking down the street in the night and gets attacked. Are you going to say, “Take responsibility, woman. The street wasn’t properly lit and you still walked through here. Therefore, it’s your fault you were attacked”?
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:32 AM
while it was not her fault she was attacked it was her fault to place herself in that position so yes she deserves some of the blame for the attack. If your going 100 miles/hr in a car and you hit an ice patch and lose control was it your fault or the ice’s fault? You take precautions as the environment demands. You want to walk down a dark street in night? fine but have a gun or mace ready to protect YOURSELF. Take personal responsibility for your safety and your actions. The man going 100miles/hr is just as much to blame as the woman walking down a dark street in the middle of the night both are doing unsafe things and putting their lifes in danger.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 12:37 AM
“We our regressing not evolving when it comes to political thought in this country.”
ahhh, ronulan, should have guessed …
Buckaroo on December 31, 2008 at 12:37 AM
We trained these guys. They are using a fairly old doctrine. It cost us very little to fund the Mujahadeen against the Soviets and wipe them out on the balance sheet. We were spending a couple hundred to a thousand bucks to take out a tank that cost much much more. They are doing the same to expensive M1s and we are spending a fortune stationing troops there. They are waging an economic war against our forces rather than a military one which they know they can win unless we hand things over to locals competent enough to beat them.
lexhamfox on December 31, 2008 at 12:38 AM
If you giggled at that this will flat out make you wet your pants with laughter.
War is Hell
This is an actual e-mail from a senior watch officer monitoring the battle in Fallujah…
Gents,
There is a legitimate, credentialed, Iraqi Reporter named Fathi Ghanim Al Iraqia attached with 4th BN, 1st Bde of the Iraqi forces (with 6th Plt?).
Earlier today he took some pictures of 4th BN Iraqi wounded. The Iraqi soldiers he was with took exception to him doing this. He says he deleted the photos from his camera, but the Iraqi soldiers were still incensed and locked him in a closet somewhere in their zone.
He is calling the MEF PAO on his cell phone from the closet.
We need to get him released.
Please get a hold of the LNO there and work the issue. Let us know your progress and when you find him.
Semper Fidelis,
Dreadnought223 on December 31, 2008 at 12:39 AM
They are waging an economic war against our forces rather than a military one which they know they can’t win unless we hand things over to locals competent enough to beat them.
Sorry sp error.
lexhamfox on December 31, 2008 at 12:39 AM
If it looks good,
And it tastes good,
And it feels good,
There has got to be something wrong somewhere,
So be careful.
Murphy9 on December 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
“FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM”
there’s a big difference between criticizing various moves he did or didn’t make …
and
declaring BOTH terms abject failures — it’s the latter i strenuously object to — not the least why ’cause it gave us duh1 [!!]
Buckaroo on December 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Please tell me you don’t work in the law enforcement field!
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 12:31 AM
lexhamfox on December 31, 2008 at 12:38 AM
agreed
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Please tell me you don’t work in the law enforcement field!
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
so you think you should be able to do whatever you want no matter how unsafe it is and someone else should be there to pull you out of trouble that you got yourself into. let me guess you were on one of the rooftops in N.O. after Katrina right?
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 12:43 AM
John Kerry’s not so secret any longer MySpace entry:
Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator John Forbes Kerry from the great state of Massachusetts. You can call me JFK if you want. I was born on December 11, 1943, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger. It’s probably my great hair and rugged good looks.
I graduated from Yale in June 1966 in the top 1% of my class. To earn extra money during the summers, I loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door. That is probably one of the reasons that I am so humble. Over my four years at Yale, I maintained a 96 grade average and received a 101 average in my senior year.
I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. Probably the only living Senator even a little bit greater than me is my dear friend Ted Moore Kennedy. I also have a very high IQ. Very high. At least 250 on a bad day. Much higher than that creep who stole the election from me. I know that he stole it because exit polls are never ever wrong.
I am also a great war hero. I set all kinds of records for heroism when I was in Vietnam. I was grievously wounded at least three times yet continued to insist on staying in the fight when lesser men would have given up. I won the bronze star with extra V’s for extra valor and the Silver Star for defeating a whole battalion of NVA with my bare hands.
Sometimes I feel like a had to carry all the water for those other ungrateful swiftboaters.
I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini with my good friend Ted. We usually have a servant bring 21 double martinis. I get one and Ted gets one for each of his fingers and each of his toes. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never marry women for just their money. They must also have a pulse. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam? I was also in Cambodia, so don’t forget that!
I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, heroic and trustworthy. And I appreciate the same qualities in others although I am realistic enough to know that no one else could come close to me.
Turn offs: other politicians who spend more on haircuts than I do. That is just not right.
Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. Other great war heroes who hate that damn S-T-U-P-I-D Texan in the White House and those lying sons of #itcher swiftboat bastardos whose pants are on fire! Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together, talk about you for about 30 seconds and then spend about 9 hours talking about me. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam and Cambodia? Just one more BTW, if anyone has found my magic hat please return to me.
MB4 on December 31, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Funny how you are now preaching personal responsibility while simultaneously arguing everything’s Bush fault.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM
This isn’t thought provoking?? I guess not, I meant it as an insult.
You want to sit and run your goddamned mouth and second guess decisions that our elected officials make years after the fact?? We’re supposed to be all impressed??
You say Bush had plenty of time to head off 9/11??
Give an example of what he should have done…Thrill us all with your experience and knowledge…
I dare you…
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM
I really don’t know….
It’s the armchair quarterback revision of history to me.
Kini on December 31, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Funny how you are now preaching personal responsibility while simultaneously arguing everything’s Bush fault.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Personal responsibility extends to Bush. It was Bush’s responsibility to keep spending in check, to protect the country, to keep gov within consitutional limits. He failed in those personal responibilites. If I do 1 thing right and 10 things wrong I don’t think my boss would say I was a great employee.
And I never said everything was Bush’s fault. I said he was a failure as president.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 12:49 AM
It’s not just 9/11. Apparently, he/she is also still thinks FDR should have prevented Pearl Harbor. So at least unseen is consistent historically speaking.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 12:50 AM
MB4 on December 31, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Heh. That makes me laugh, every time I read it.
Still loathe that shitsplat, though.
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 12:54 AM
These jihadist crazies will still be fighting when we are all dead and gone.
You don’t stop poking the nest just because the stick is heavy. You poke it until the bees are tired and give up. If this happens in 2312, we win.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 12:54 AM
This has nothing to do with Bush. A person should be able to walk safely down the street alone and If they are attacked it is the persons fault who attacked them. Fortunately I live in Texas where I can carry and protect myself from the criminals that the libs do not want to keep in prison.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Give an example of what he should have done…Thrill us all with your experience and knowledge…
I dare you…
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM
He should have upon enetering the White house responed to the Cole bombing. The Uss Cole bombing was an act of war. bush could have launched an attack on Afganistian at that time. The intel was there for all to see. Bush chooose to ignore that act of war until Al qaeda launch a bigger one that he could not ignore.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 12:57 AM
*walking quickly to change panties*
Thanks a lot. LMAO.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Well, if you could manage to come up with one post in this thread without coming off as a complete zipper head that would be a good start.
P.S. I’m sure yer a great employee…
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 12:58 AM
I guess you guys can quit arguing with unseen, BDS tends to make an impenetrable wall, ya know.
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Well obviously, Unseen should be President, because only Unseen knows how to keep us safe, keep the economy going, and respect our civil liberties all at the same time. We should draft Unseen for the nomination.
/just kidding
Bush’s biggest problem? He wasn’t a Democrat. When a Republican hands you a poop sandwich, you know it’s a poop sandwich. When a Democrat hands you a poop sandwich, then it’s caviar and pate.
Don’t agree? The WTC was first bombed in 1993, under BJ’s watch. Do you know that most people didn’t know that? There are still people today that think that the USS Cole was attacked when Bush was President.
john1schn on December 31, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Sorry, but it was still funny and I live in an Air Force town!
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Like Clinton responded? Oh yeah, that’s right, everything is Bush’s fault. Clinton sat on his finger after the Cole bombing. Clinton, once again, didn’t do a DAMN THING.
The 19 terrorists probably said to themselves:
“Gee, I hope Al Gore is elected president. He’ll probably give us medals for our efforts. All these democrats care about is BJ’s and the definition of ‘Is’.”
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
A person should be able to walk safely down the street alone and If they are attacked it is the persons fault who attacked them
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 12:57 AM
So I should be able to walk thru a gang controlled strret wearing another gangs colors or is that asking for trouble? Part of being an adult is to understand risks and take the needed precautions. some streets are safer than others. some streets are better lit than others, some neighborhoods are better protected than others. The only way you could walk down any street any where at any time in this country and not have the posibility of being attacked is to turn this country into a police state. I will take Franklins advice those that would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither. Part of freedom is taking personal responsibility for your own safety. And a woman walking down a dark street in an unfreindly neigborhood in the middle of the night is not taking persoanl responsibility for her actions.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
If Bush had launched an attack on Afghanistan before 9/11 he would have had almost no support at all in Congress, nor among the American people. 9/11 was already well in the works and in all likelihood would have happened anyway and Bush would have been blamed for causing it by attacking Afghanistan and probably would have been impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate.
MB4 on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
john1schn on December 31, 2008 at 12:58 AM
So perhaps unseen should be unheard as well?
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Gee, I hope Al Gore is elected president. He’ll probably give us medals for our efforts. All these democrats care about is BJ’s and the definition of ‘Is’.”
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
two worngs don’t make a right. Clinton was worng but bush followed Clinton’s mistake. Each had the power to order an attack to avenge that act of war. The event was close enough to both’s terms for either to order an attack. neither did. both were worng.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:06 AM
So, you blame a woman for being raped when she wore too much makeup or wore a short skirt, right? The perp is to blame.
In this case, the effing jihadist camel humping terrorists were to blame.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM
You are something else. I’ve never met anybody else that thinks like you. And I’m not saying to insulting or anything. It’s the truth.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Okay, that’s enough for me. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year. all.
Stay safe.
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 1:08 AM
So you were all for us going to Iraq???
One of our ship gets blowed all to Hell in Yemen, and we go storming into Afghanistan?? (Which by the way would have been a good idea). And we would, of course, killed or captured all of the 9/11 hijackers and thus foiled the plan??
Am I getting it here??
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 1:08 AM
No, but Clinton was too busy thinking about p*ssy and acting like a p*ssy to do anything about it.
Not to mention, the embassy bombings in Africa, 1993 WTC attack, Kobar (sp?) Towers…
Yeah, Clinton showed them the way….that the US would respond.
The terrorists were sorry when BUSH came into office-when we were attacked, he took the war to THEM!
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM
So perhaps unseen should be unheard as well?
irongrampa on December 31, 2008 at 1:04 AM
oh yes the thought police. Don’t like the truth ban the truth. there everything is all better now.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM
If won’t be fighting the Jihad in 2312. One or the other of us will be defeated in the coming few decades at most, probably sooner. It may not be apparent at first if we should lose but it will be in time.
When two men have loaded guns pointed at each others heads, the lunatic with a death wish always wins. We can’t win a hundred years war against Jihad. In the meantime our other enemies will be biding their time to take advantage of any advantage.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM
Happy New Year, Iron.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM
I never said unfriendly neighborhood or middle of the night in my analogy.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:10 AM
fixed
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:10 AM
The terrorists were sorry when BUSH came into office-when we were attacked, he took the war to THEM!
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:09 AM
yes i give him credit for that
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:10 AM
So, we bend over and allow them to fly a 747 up our burros?
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Great.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:11 AM
After many years in SAC, I do not think that it was that funny. Of course, when I was in the service I thought all of the jokes about the other branches were funny.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:12 AM
Of course! I love and respect all branches, but it is fun to hear them tear each other down. They are all heros. You too, Johan.
P.S. I don’t argue with an F-22 Raptor.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Elementary. You have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
semloh on December 31, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Unseen has made several on topic points in this thread and as far as I can recall you’ve only responded with personal slights. Try responding in a substantive way and your zipper head comment wont backfire so easily on you.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Might as well stop arguing with half the people on HotAir with that attitude. While few probably agree with every point Unseen has made, there aren’t very many Bush fans left around these parts.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:15 AM
So, you blame a woman for being raped when she wore too much makeup or wore a short skirt, right? The perp is to blame.
In this case, the effing jihadist camel humping terrorists were to blame.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM
No I don’t blame a woman for her own rape because she dressed like a slut. I blame the man for not being able to control his impluse it was a lack of self control and a lack of personal responsibility on the male in that case.
So I guess you don’t blame the driver that blows into a wall doing 100mi/hr. It was the car’s fault right?
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:16 AM
No, it’s the ass behind the wheel. I get what you are trying to say. I just say, blame the terrorists. THEY killed the people on 9/11, not Bush.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:18 AM
It’s not just a job, it’s an adventure.
hillbillyjim on December 31, 2008 at 1:18 AM
I have done it in Texas all of my many years, and I protect myself. And if the libs would allow us to keep the criminals in jail I might not have to carry.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:19 AM
You pretty much just skim over everything don’t you??
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 1:19 AM
Damn Straight!!!
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 1:20 AM
No, the drivers fault. He was breaking the law.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:20 AM
I never said unfriendly neighborhood or middle of the night in my analogy.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:10 AM
you said at night. I’m a man and when I walk down the street by myself at night I carry some type of protection. Be it a gun or knife mace or even my keys between my fingers. I also am on the look out for possible hiding places for criminals intent on doing me harm. I do this because my personal and my families safety are my major concern and I think my safety is worth the extra time and care. I do not hope/expect the cops to protect me every single day of my life. It is why I also have a gun in my home and a nice big dog.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:21 AM
No, what ever gave you the idea I was suggesting that? I’m saying that we have to win this war ASAP. We don’t have time to fight a hundred years war when we simply don’t have a hundred years. We will have lost long before then.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:22 AM
Except when your guns are stolen and the dog is at the kennel……
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:24 AM
So you were all for us going to Iraq???
BigWyo on December 31, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Yes. As far as getting the 9/11 attackers maybe maybe not. We could have set their plans back some. Etc. If not we would have been 8 months into the WOT.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Except when your guns are stolen and the dog is at the kennel……
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:24 AM
that’s what the baseball bat is for..
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Okay then, Rock. We agree. Make the Middle East a parking lot for our military base and call it good. But, before you build the parking lot, have a weenie roast on the smoldering remains.
We need to win…toot sweet. That means telling the media to pack sand and unleashing hell.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:26 AM
No, what ever gave you the idea I was suggesting that? I’m saying that we have to win this war ASAP. We don’t have time to fight a hundred years war when we simply don’t have a hundred years. We will have lost long before then.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:22 AM
agreed where is Sherman and patton when you need them.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:26 AM
Again, it’s still not the victims fault for not having a gun. It is the perpetrators fault for committing the act. And in the case of 9/11, the perpetrators were 19 terrorist hijackers. Not the U.S. government, the president, etc. They committed the acts of violence.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:26 AM
Yeah, if I was here when it happened……..seek and DESTROY, but I wasn’t. If the dog was here, wouldn’t have needed a gun, dog would have torn them limb from limb.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Skim over what? Again you resort to personal slights for lack of a substantive comment. That’s my point. Instead of insulting people’s intelligence why don’t you at least make an attempt to illustrate your own intelligence by refuting their arguments?
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:28 AM
BTW, could we all agree that the elected officials and the commentators need to STOP USING THE WORD ‘TAINT’? I giggle like a ass everytime they say it. It’s distracting.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:29 AM
No, the drivers fault. He was breaking the law.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:20 AM
So as long as you don’t break the law you can do whatever you want with no regard to your personal safety? So if i’m rock climbing witout a rope and I fall is it my fault or the rock’s? Or what if I’m drinking beer and I catch the house on fire because I forgot the stove was on? My fault or the stove’s and if i got in a passenger seat of someone’s car that had been drinking and he/she crashes is it my fault i can’t walk of his/her fault?
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:30 AM
In this PC
countryworld they would not be allowed to do their jobs.Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:31 AM
Skim over what? Again you resort to personal slights for lack of a substantive comment. That’s my point. Instead of insulting people’s intelligence why don’t you at least make an attempt to illustrate your own intelligence by refuting their arguments?
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:28 AM
Might as well ask for pig to fly.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:31 AM
In this PC country world they would not be allowed to do their jobs.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:31 AM
So true…
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:31 AM
fify, gratis, because it’s like this on other topics.
…and not only in this country.
Entelechy on December 31, 2008 at 1:32 AM
If a tree falls in the forest…….
Could we stop with the hypotheticals?!?!?!?
It’s your fault you fell off the damn rock, it’s your drunk fault for catching your house on fire, but you could probably find some lawyer to sue the beer company, and it’s your driver’s fault for driving while impaired. You can actually sue for that.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:32 AM
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:27 AM
And yet the police were not there to protect you….go figure.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:33 AM
My husband IS the police, buddy. We weren’t here, but we don’t blame the damn police for not protecting our house. We blame the crackhead that broke in and if I ever catch him………they won’t be able to id him as human.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM
It’s your fault you fell off the damn rock, it’s your drunk fault for catching your house on fire, but you could probably find some lawyer to sue the beer company, and it’s your driver’s fault for driving while impaired. You can actually sue for that.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:32 AM
All of them are your fault. all could have been avoided by taking precautions. the same way an attack could have been avoided by not walking down a street at night alone.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:35 AM
You two are only arguing about semantics here. I don’t think that Unseen is suggesting that the terrorists aren’t to blame and I doubt you seriously believe that reckless behavior doesn’t sometimes have consequences.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:36 AM
So, I can’t walk down the damn street because some crackhead can’t keep his head on straight without killing me? Are you kidding me? It’s the perp’s fault, buddy. Driving a car while impaired and walking down the damn street at night is two different animals.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:36 AM
You know what? What if I walk down the street NAKED?
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:37 AM
Again, it’s still not the victims fault for not having a gun. It is the perpetrators fault for committing the act. And in the case of 9/11, the perpetrators were 19 terrorist hijackers. Not the U.S. government, the president, etc. They committed the acts of violence.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:26 AM
they both are to blame. The victims less so but still they need to take some responsibility. They never did. a character flaw IMO.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:38 AM
In the case of 9/11, you’ve got to realize the hijackers were evil and even if we took precautions, they still wanted to murder. They wanted blood. People intent on murdering will, well, murder.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Hornet, dear, that would offend Muslim men.
Entelechy on December 31, 2008 at 1:39 AM
So true. They would have been prosecuted.
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Fan effin tastic!
*Strips clothes off and dances like a loon*
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:40 AM
You know what? What if I walk down the street NAKED?
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:37 AM
depends what you look like with no clothes on. If I did it it would probably be the best protection i could have….
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:40 AM
LMAO!
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:41 AM
In the case of 9/11, you’ve got to realize the hijackers were evil and even if we took precautions, they still wanted to murder. They wanted blood. People intent on murdering will, well, murder.
terryannonline on December 31, 2008 at 1:39 AM
yes unless they are killed before they can murder.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:42 AM
I am all for personal responsibility, but when someone does the deed they are the ones that are responsible. I have heard one of my customers lay the blame on a home owner, because a burglar jumped a fence to commit a buglary and the owners dog bit the buglar.
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:42 AM
AP just loves linking to this kind of crap. Why I have no idea.
echosyst on December 31, 2008 at 1:43 AM
If wishes were horses, then Obama would be crying….
Hindsight is twenty twenty.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Depend—what do you look like? :)
FloatingRock on December 31, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Like a Playboy Bunny, of course.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Johan Klaus on December 31, 2008 at 1:42 AM
in that case I would say the bugler got what he deserved for putting himself in that position. I’m not saying the attacker is not responsible for his actions. I’m just saying that it is everyone’s responsibility as free man and women to protect themselves and their property not the governments and not social norms. Just because you should be able to walk down a dark street at night without getting attacked does not mean you will not be. IMO people confuse “should” with reality.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:47 AM
well it’s been fun but the bed is calling.
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Good night, Unseen. Sleep tight.
Don’t blame the bed bugs if they bite.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Good night, Unseen. Sleep tight.
Don’t blame the bed bugs if they bite.
HornetSting on December 31, 2008 at 1:49 AM
hell i used DDT around the home no bed bugs in sight…
unseen on December 31, 2008 at 1:50 AM
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