Breaking: Blagojevich appoints former Illinois attorney general to Senate seat; Update: “Unacceptable,” says Reid; Update: Can the Senate refuse to seat Burris?

posted at 1:06 pm on December 30, 2008 by Allahpundit

He’s facing impeachment and federal prison, and both the Illinois legislature and Harry Reid warned him not to make the pick. His lawyer insisted that he wouldn’t. What’s a delusional narcissist to do? Why, make the pick, of course. Blagomania!

Gov. Rod Blagojevich is expected today to name former Illinois Atty. Gen. Roland Burris to replace President-elect Barack Obama in the U.S. Senate…

Shortly after Obama’s Nov. 4 victory, Burris made known his interest in an appointment to the Senate but was never seriously considered, according to Blagojevich insiders. But in the days following Blagojevich’s arrest, and despite questions over the taint of a Senate appointment, Burris stepped up his efforts to win the governor’s support.

Though he is 71, Burris has said that Obama’s replacement should be able to win re-election and he has noted that despite a string of primary losses in races ranging from Chicago mayor to governor and U.S. senator, he’s never lost to a Republican…

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada previously warned Blagojevich, following the governor’s Dec. 9 arrest, that Senate Democrats would not seat any appointment the two-term Democratic governor made. Reid’s warning was contained in a letter signed by all 50 sitting Democratic senators, including the No. 2 Democrat in Senate leadership, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois.

He was state comptroller for 12 years and AG for four in the mid-nineties, then lost a bunch of mayoral and gubernatorial primaries. That’s all I know about him — except, of course, that he’ll now be the Senate’s only black member, leaving Reid in a simply glorious predicament of whether to seat him or not. Why he might: Obama’s seat is up for reelection in just two years, and given Burris’s low profile and history of losing to more popular Democrats, he’d be an especially weak incumbent in the primary. Reid could seat him secure in the belief that Democratic voters will pick someone they prefer soon enough and that the nominee will romp to victory in the general after a few campaign appearances on his behalf from The One. Why he might not: According to Geraghty, Burris is a donor to Blago and a crony of his political allies. That’s probably enough of a taint to justify rejecting him, his Absolute Moral Authority notwithstanding. Exit question: What’ll Reid do?

Update: If the point was to call Reid’s bluff by appointing someone he dare not reject, why not really go for it and appoint Oprah? She’s America’s pope! Poprah!

Update: The only thing that could make this sweeter is if Blago opens the presser by saying the idea came to him in a dream or that God told him to do it or something. This crazy goes to 11.

Update: There’s actually an easy way for Reid to get cover on the identity politics of this: Just have Obama issue a statement that Burris is a fine public servant but that the appointment is so irredeemably tainted that the only solution is a special election.

Update: Total clusterfark — Reid says no deal. Good lord, the press conference this afternoon should be dynamite.

Update: Who wrote this chummy little farewell?

“As sons of immigrants to this country, you and I have a deep appreciation for the opportunities America provides to those who are willing to work hard and sacrifice for their children.”

Update: Better and better and better: During the 1998 gubernatorial race, Burris was evidently caught on tape calling two of his opponents “non-qualified white boys.”

Update: Dingy Harry insists that Burris won’t be seated. Minor problem: Does he have the constitutional authority to do that? Probably not, thanks to — ta da — Earl Warren.

In 1969, the Supreme Court ruled that the House of Representatives could not refuse to seat Rep. Adam Clayton Powell Jr., a New York Democrat who was accused of putting his wife on the payroll and misusing travel funds to vacation in the Caribbean. Despite those charges, he had been reelected by his constituents in Harlem.

“The Constitution does not vest in the Congress a discretionary power to deny membership by majority vote,” wrote Chief Justice Earl Warren. Congress may “judge only the qualifications set forth in the Constitution,” he said.

The qualifications are minimal. A senator must be at least 30 years old, a U.S. citizen and “an inhabitant” of the state.

They might have the authority to challenge the appointment on whether or not it’s legally valid, but there’s no raging dispute about that in this case as far as I know. Until Blago’s impeached, he’s the governor, and it’s the governor’s call to make. Glorious secondary exit question: Are we headed for a bona fide constitutional showdown in the Supreme Court over this idiocy?


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How I love my state…
I bet Burris gets to keep the seat. Blagojevich (we Illinoisans call him something else, but I can’t repeat that here) picked Burris with a smile, probably thinking, “and what is anyone going to do about it?” Sadly, the answer is “nothing”.

Send_Me on December 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Has Burris ever won an election? I understand he was appointed Attorney General? Imagine the fun in 2010.

Now if Boehner and McConnell can just keep the troops in line chanting, “No more bailouts,” and “Democratic culture of corruption,” the Union might survive the next two to four years.

Wethal on December 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Reid is a player who keeps showing his hand and dropping his aces on the floor. Obama’s will pass and will fold without showing his cards. Emanuel thought he was going to win, but he doesn’t know if someone has figured out that he marked the cards. There are various other Illinois players who are desperately trying to stay in the game.

Blago appears to be better at palming the deck than the rest of them.

INC on December 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM

You hit Reid spot-on. He is the master at the f-up.

Obama wants no part of this. He will fold faster than Superman on laundry day (toh – Bart Simpson).

grdred944 on December 30, 2008 at 4:01 PM

I like kettlecorn. Got Jager?

HornetSting on December 30, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Not aloud to go near Jager, last time i did, i couldn’t remember 3 days , and woke up in house that wasn’t mine. That stuff is evil in a bottle.

MDWNJ on December 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

What a joke this is what you get when Libs are in charge and out of control.You people think it bad now just wait till jan 20 2009 then all hell will break loose.But the dumb A** people wanted change.I only hope and pray that the country can survive the next 4 years.

thmcbb on December 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Update: In an ironic twist, Roland Burris was appointed to his first state government job in 1973 by Illinois Governor Dan Walker — who later went to the hoosegow, one of three Illinois governors since 1960 to end up wearing prison garb (there have been seven elected governors during this

Yes, indeed, the irony.

HT: Instapundit.

Wethal on December 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Glorious secondary exit question: Are we headed for a bona fide constitutional showdown in the Supreme Court over this idiocy?

Sorry, bro, but there is nothing glorious left in a Supreme Court where votes come out 5 – 4, and the dissenting opinion invariably casts doubt on the actual sanity of the majority, much less their legal competence.

We’re f*cked.

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I like kettlecorn. Got Jager?

HornetSting on December 30, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Not aloud to go near Jager, last time i did, i couldn’t remember 3 days , and woke up in house that wasn’t mine. That stuff is evil in a bottle.

MDWNJ on December 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

LMAO. You were drinking with M. Rash, weren’t you?

HornetSting on December 30, 2008 at 4:04 PM

How about this for a juicy scenario:

Reid fights the appointment and takes it to the SCOTUS.

I’d love to see Reid fight it to the Supreme’s. It will seal his fate in 2010 if he does. However, Reid has a long track record of shooting his mouth off and then having to eat his words. Remember, he is the one who in his role as Al Qaeda’s Washington Spokesperson, told us the war in Iraq was lost. He also said Bush would get no money for Iraq on about a dozen occasions shortly before Congress gave Bush everything he wanted.

Reid has no spine and will back down once Obama has him brought to his office and tells him, “Shut the f&*k up you white piece of s&it Elmer Fudd looking motherf*&^er and let my brother take his seat.”

Yeah, Pinky will last about a day whining about this pick.

grdred944 on December 30, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Back to Roland Burris – he’s a first class nitwit, and lost every election that I can remember except the AG.

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Glorious secondary exit question: Are we headed for a bona fide constitutional showdown in the Supreme Court over this idiocy?

What now needs to happen is that Obama and the Democrats need to put pressure on Burris to refuse to accept the appointment. Perhaps they can offer him a lower-level spot in Obama’s administration as a way to buy him off.

As Republicans, though, I think this is a positive development for us. A Democrat probably would have won the special election. But now, you’re going to have a Democrat holding the seat who is not legitimate, which will only serve as a FURTHER reminder of Democratic corruption in Illinois. That will erase any incumbency advantage Burris has, and will just further tarnish the Democratic brand.

This is beyond hilarious.

Outlander on December 30, 2008 at 4:11 PM

i agree that reid is a whimp, albeit a powerful one. he is such an unlikely sen. maj. leader–no presence or charisma.

and blago had the authority to appoint, and he wanted this appt’ment to have seniority over the newly elected senators & this appointment seems as liberal as all the rest of the dems, so why would any dems complain.

i think its grand. better than anything except the tv show NCIS.

kelley in virginia on December 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM

O/T, but needs to be said AGAIN and AGAIN.

Don’t forget to call President Bush and ask him to pardon U.S. Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean!

202-456-1111.

I called this afternoon and left my opinion….I asked for President Bush to pardon and give these agents their jobs back. I explained that President Bush needs to look out for American citizens and not for illegal aliens from Mexico who are smuggling drugs to poison our kids.

Call…Call…Call…Let’s crash the system!

HornetSting on December 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Now if Boehner and McConnell can just keep the troops in line chanting, “No more bailouts,

I wish the GOP acted like the one that existed in your head.

lodge on December 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM

The GOP better JUMP all over this! and when will the GOP wake UP and realize that the demacrooks are playing HARD ball “win at ALL cost even break the rules to win”
W

time2taketheglovesoffGOP on December 30, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Drudge has a quote up. The RACE CARD has been played by a Congressmen

Rogue on December 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM

I wish the GOP acted like the one that existed in your head.

lodge on December 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM

I’m hoping the GOP has now realized what helped lose them the election. And what they now need to do to win in 2010.

Repeating “Democratic culture of corruption” every chance they get on TV could help set the tone for 2010 (and annoy Harry and Nancy in the meantime).

Wethal on December 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM

Wethal on December 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM

The latest news is that the GOP is in a holding pattern over the stimulus plan because they don’t want to be seen “stifling recovery”, as if public sector spending stimulates an economy. Ridiculous cowardice. McConnell and Boehner need to retire. Shelby and Pence to replace them, hopefully.

lodge on December 30, 2008 at 4:29 PM

We can thank the 17th Amendment for this mess. When Senators were elected by state legislatures, this sort of problem wouldn’t even have existed. A citizenry ignorant about why our Founders created our government the way they did has created all sorts of ridiculous problems.

DrMagnolias on December 30, 2008 at 4:34 PM

The Democratic governor’s announcement as Burris as his pick may be an empty gesture. Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White, who must certify the appointment, said Tuesday he will not do so.

Entelechy on December 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM

At this point if I were a GOP Senator I’d hasten to point out that Governor Blagojevich has not been convicted of anything, nor has he been impeached, and so he had every right to appoint Sen. Obama’s successor. I’d be shocked, shocked, to see that the Senator from Nevada is trying to usurp the right of the people of Illinois to pick their Senator through their duly (re-)elected Governor.

I would call televised hearings on the constitutionality of the process, and I would invite Mr. Fitzgerald to detail the charges against the Governor. This would make for a great first 100 days for Prez. O.

factoid on December 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM

The Constitution says that either house can expel a member by a 2/3 vote with no other stipulations, so if Reid can get some Republican help, Burris can be expelled as the new Senate’s second order of business (the first of course is when the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, tallies the Electoral Votes)

oddball on December 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM

There once was a dem with spine and his name is Blago.

B-L-A-G-O.

B-L-A-G-O.

Blago told them to GFY!

Ha!

Congressman Bobby Rush: ‘This is a matter of national importance. There are no African Americans in the Senate, and I don’t think that anyone, any U.S. senator who’s sitting in the Senate right now, wanna go on record to DENY one African American from being seated in the U.S. Senate. I don’t think they want to go on record doing that’

Nice race card but he does have a point on no AA’s in the Senate.

getalife on December 30, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Reid has no spine and will back down once Obama has him brought to his office and tells him, “Shut the f&*k up you white piece of s&it Elmer Fudd looking motherf*&^er and let my brother take his seat.”

Yeah, Pinky will last about a day whining about this pick.

grdred944 on December 30, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Now THAT is a mental image to treasure!!!

uncivilized on December 30, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Nice race card but he does have a point on no AA’s in the Senate.

getalife on December 30, 2008 at 4:44 PM

So? The Dems ran a white guy against Steele in Maryland, attacked him racially and won. The Dems have no-one but themselves to blame for the monochome-ness of the Senate.

Rogue on December 30, 2008 at 4:55 PM

If the point was to call Reid’s bluff by appointing someone he dare not reject, why not really go for it and appoint Oprah? She’s America’s pope! Poprah!

That could work. I read an article today that says she’s looking to buy a house in D.C. in order to be closer to her puppet . . . er, president.

AZCoyote on December 30, 2008 at 4:56 PM

I love watching the democrat party hoisted on their race petard.

SouthernGent on December 30, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Wethal on December 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM

They can shout all they want. It may not do much good, as Boehner has the baggage of Ohio. He’s headed in one direction. A large section of Ohio’s population led by folks such as Brown and Strickland are headed in the other.

What a joke this is what you get when Libs are in charge and out of control.

Yes, and part of this mess is what you get when Conservatives decide to go imperial with their victory.
They:
Outdo Clinton in selling out to third world countries like China.
Fail to pardon people who were defending our nation’s sovereignty.
Give in to environmental activists, even when they have been disproved in science.
Bail out financial institutions, but decide to let the South get a few political cheap shots on Detroit. All of this courtesy of the countries who purchased the South’s governments and representatives.

sethstorm on December 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Americans are so racist that they removed the last AA from the Senate by electing him President. Sheesh, I was hoping we would be past that for a while, and O is not even inaugurated yet.

pedestrian on December 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM

I hope so, every minute of this farce detracts from Baraka the Magic Negro and when the seas will receed.

federale86 on December 30, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Apparently Obama agrees with Reid.

Phoenician on December 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM

The US Senate will now have as its members:

Al Franken who stole an election. Caroline Kennedy who is a legacy pledge. And now the guy appointed Blago who bought the seat.

Can you say 3rd World Banana Republic folks?

angryed on December 30, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Can you say 3rd World Banana Republic folks?
angryed on December 30, 2008 at 6:21 PM

That’s naming the purchasers of our debt.

sethstorm on December 30, 2008 at 6:31 PM

And the GOP remains – panties firmly pulled up, cowered under their desks, thumbs inserted in mouths, sucking hard, hoping their mommies will come and rescue them from all the bad men…

sabbott on December 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM

GOP is a joke. No Press Conference; no outrage at Crook County and Obama’s association therein; no comments about the Dems trying to fix the seat by saying “Blago is incompentent”; no mention of the Chicago machine’s machinations; NOT JACK SH*T. Pathetic

marklmail on December 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Drudge has a quote up. The RACE CARD has been played by a Congressmen

Rogue on December 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM

I called this one early on. Blago and the Democrats think that the Illinois black Dems are so stupid, so corrupt and so beholden that they will be easily bought off by Blago, and will end up as his immunity.

True, in the case of the Gray Panther Bobby Rush, but will the rest of the Illinois Black Dems prove so rotten? Tick, tock…

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM

sabbott on December 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM

marklmail on December 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM

The first rule of political suicide: when your opponent is trying to kill himself, get out of his way.

I think the GOP should not be overplaying their hand just yet.

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM

yup… and start reminding everyone in 14 months…

jerrytbg on December 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White, who must certify the appointment, said Tuesday he will not do so.

Entelechy on December 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Entirely unclear that the apparently retarded Mr. White has the authority to refuse certification. His power is limited to a review of the process.

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

jerrytbg on December 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Exactly. Get every single thing on tape, do your fundraising, and start making commercials.

Tie Obama, Blago, Jesse Jr., Stroger, Rush, Burris, Reid, Emanuel, Caroline Kennedy, Sarah Palin, the bankrupt Tribune, the soon-to-be-bankrupt NYTimes, Vicky Iseman … all up in a long string, and dangle them from a tall building in June 2010.

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Jaibones on December 30, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Yes…and if the GOP doesn’t use this…they don’t deserve to win in 10′.

jerrytbg on December 30, 2008 at 9:10 PM

What delicious irony. This is the Democrats’ worst nightmare.

LFRGary on December 31, 2008 at 2:48 AM

This man Roland Burris has a lot to offer and should be seated in the Senate. He is a public servant who knows money, banks and the law. And apparently the law is on his side in this case. The remaining 99 of those boys and girls in the US Senate should keeps their legs crossed so as not to expose how little they have.

Early career
After graduating from law school, Burris became the first African-American National Bank Examiner for the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency for the U.S. Treasury Department. In that capacity, he traveled throughout the midwest examining banks in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin. From 1964 to 1973, he worked at Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company (now Bank of America), serving as tax accountant, tax consultant, commercial banking officer, and vice-president. He headed a commercial group that covered government guaranteed loans and minority business banking.
From 1973 to 1977, he was appointed by Illinois Governor Dan Walker as Director of the Department of Central Management Services.
He was National Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer for Operation PUSH from January to October 1977. He was in private law practice from October 1977 to January 1979, and again from June 1995 to present.
[edit] Political career (1979-2002)
From 1979 to 1991, Burris was elected to the office of Comptroller of Illinois. He was the first African American to be elected to a statewide office in the state of Illinois. Burris was an unsuccessful candidate for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate in 1984, losing to Paul Simon who went on to defeat incumbent Senator Charles Percy.
From 1991 to 1995, he was Attorney General for the State of Illinois, where he headed over 500 lawyers. There, he was the second African American elected to a state office of Attorney General in the United States.
Current career (2002-Present)
Burris is serving as Manager/CEO of Burris & Lebed Consulting, LLC, which was formed in April 2002. It is a strategic consulting service concentrating in the areas of public relations, governmental representation, political strategies, and corporate strategies. He also serves as of counsel to the law firm of Gonzalez, Saggio and Harlan, L.L.C. His areas of legal concentration are business transactions, estate planning, wills, trusts, probate, and consumer affairs.

gracie on December 31, 2008 at 7:30 AM

At this point if I were a GOP Senator I’d hasten to point out that Governor Blagojevich has not been convicted of anything, nor has he been impeached, and so he had every right to appoint Sen. Obama’s successor. I’d be shocked, shocked, to see that the Senator from Nevada is trying to usurp the right of the people of Illinois to pick their Senator through their duly (re-)elected Governor.

I would call televised hearings on the constitutionality of the process, and I would invite Mr. Fitzgerald to detail the charges against the Governor. This would make for a great first 100 days for Prez. O.

factoid on December 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM

+1

Red State State of Mind on December 31, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Roland Burris?

Give me Plaxico, Please.

BKennedy on December 31, 2008 at 10:43 AM

In 1969, the Supreme Court ruled that the House of Representatives could not refuse to seat Rep. Adam Clayton Powell Jr., a New York Democrat who was accused of putting his wife on the payroll and misusing travel funds to vacation in the Caribbean. Despite those charges, he had been reelected by his constituents in Harlem.
“The Constitution does not vest in the Congress a discretionary power to deny membership by majority vote,” wrote Chief Justice Earl Warren. Congress may “judge only the qualifications set forth in the Constitution,” he said.
The qualifications are minimal. A senator must be at least 30 years old, a U.S. citizen and “an inhabitant” of the state.

I’m no legal expert, but there may be a significant difference between the Adam Clayton Powell case and the Burris appointment. Despite his legal problems, Powell WAS re-elected by his constituents in Harlem, who seem to delight in re-electing crooks, and Charlie Rangel has continued the tradition. We also saw William “Cold Cash” Jefferson re-elected after $90K was found in his freezer, and even then-speaker Dennis Hastert was defending him against the investigation by the FBI.

We’re not talking here about an ELECTED Representative who has legal troubles, but a potential Senator APPOINTED by a Governor who has already been arrested and indicted, and accused of trying to exact financial gain from the Senate appointment.

Does the Powell decision, which was based on a duly ELECTED member of the HOUSE, apply to a potential SENATOR APPOINTED by a Governor known to be corrupt? Obviously, we can’t allow either House of Congress to refuse to seat ELECTED members, otherwise the majority party could abusively invent trumped-up charges to throw out minority members.
But if the Senate rejected Burris, no election would be overturned, since none was held for this seat, and the rejection may be upheld in court.

Steve Z on December 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Interesting to note some comments in the papers about Obama’s “black senate seat”. Does this mean this senate seat can ONLY go to a black? Does this mean that all future presidents have to be black?

The Dimocrats are going to tear themselves apart over this.
Good ol’ Hot Rod. The gift that keeps on giving.

GarandFan on December 31, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Anyone hear Illinois congressman Bobby Rush (a founder of the black panthers) press conference. He associated any objection to the appointment of Burriss to the senate to a lynching. “Do not castigate the appointee only the appointor” was his quote.

What a hypocrite! Why should the senate not have the privilege of some form of vetting in this situation in light of Blago’s corruption and and ongoing investigation.

Maybe, just maybe Illinois could get a clean politician for once instead of a retread from the corrupt system.

Dukehoopsfan on December 31, 2008 at 4:43 PM

But if the Senate rejected Burris, no election would be overturned, since none was held for this seat, and the rejection may be upheld in court.

Steve Z on December 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM

I don’t see anything in the US Constitution that differentiates betwwen an appointed Senator vs an elcted Senator. Just be a citizen (for 9 years I think) , be 30 + and live in the state. Burris meets all these requirements and should be seated.

Until Blago’s impeached, he’s the governor, and it’s the governor’s call to make.

Not to quibble, but I believe he is still Governor when impeached, and remains Governor until tried in the IL State Senate, right?

Glorious secondary exit question: Are we headed for a bona fide constitutional showdown in the Supreme Court over this idiocy? I think it is settled law, based on what I read here at HA regarding Adam Clayton Powell.

Red State State of Mind on December 31, 2008 at 6:43 PM

Interesting to note some comments in the papers about Obama’s “black senate seat”. Does this mean this senate seat can ONLY go to a black? Does this mean that all future presidents have to be black?

The Dimocrats are going to tear themselves apart over this.
Good ol’ Hot Rod. The gift that keeps on giving.

GarandFan on December 31, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Didn’t Gov Patterson (D-NY) recently throw that old joke out….Once you go black, you never go back…..

And anyway, here in Maryland, we had a great Senate Candidate, Michael Steele, run in 2006, but unfortunately he had an R after his name. I missed Bobby Rush’s news conference about how important it was to support LG Steele.

Red State State of Mind on December 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM

I really don’t know anything about Burris. Doesn’t Obama rejecting him, lend some weight to Obama being “slightly” and perhaps monetarily in on the deal.

rlwo2008 on January 1, 2009 at 3:01 AM

Sen. Reid leads the most racist group of politicians in D.C. They eat their own as easily as they try to damage the Republican party (unfortunately, we are doing that to ourselves quit well – thank you).

Amazing, they will slam an African-American because his opinions do not agree with his. Also, because he is being forced to consider Mr. Burns offered by a Demoncrate of the lowest caliber (he got caught).

No matter what else is said about Demoncrates they are the most bigoted group of people on the face of this good earth.

MSGTAS on January 1, 2009 at 9:11 AM