Terrific: 52% of Americans think Caroline’s qualified

posted at 1:47 pm on December 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

Two possibilities. Either contempt for Congress has swelled to the point that voters figure she can’t be worse than the current crop — if we’re willing to stoop to electing Senator Franken, why not Senator Princess? — or George Carlin’s assessment of the public was right all along. Which would be ironic in this case given his politics, as he’d probably have been warmer to the idea of Caroline in the Senate than you or me.

God help us, we actually have a gender gap on this question.

But the poll also indicates there’s a gender gap, with 57 percent of women saying Kennedy is qualified. That number drops to 47 percent among men, with 46 percent of male respondents saying Kennedy is not qualified.

“Men may think of qualifications for public office in terms of work experience, while women may be looking at a candidate’s life experience,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Caroline Kennedy has a personal history that may be compelling to many women, but her resume is not very long, and that may be a mark against her to some men.”

The question isn’t whether life experience matters, it’s why Caroline’s life experience should matter more than any other woman’s (or man’s). Unless the people polled mean to suggest that every Ivy League grad who’s raised a family is qualified for Senate, they’re giving her bonus points based on nothing more than privilege. Look for her team to exploit the identity politics angle going forward, though, with criticism of her lack of experience inevitably demagogued as “sexist” because it faults her for having made her kids a priority over work. It’s already happening: See, e.g., this dopey WaPo op-ed saluting Caroline as Everymom or this U.S. News piece (by a former GOPAC staffer, of all things) insisting that the only qualifications for Senate, really, are to be sentient and civic-minded, in which case knocking Princess amounts to a gender-based double standard. Or something:

Having just been through this over the question of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s candidacy for vice president, we are again faced with the prospect of career partisans attacking a woman who has just entered the arena from outside it—way, way, outside it.

In much the same way that black politicians, at least prior to Obama’s election, were damned with faint praise when cited for their “eloquence,” the overarching focus on “qualifications”—especially as they apply to women seeking elective office—is little more than an attempt to score a few quick, easy points and push them out of the way. It is unseemly, and it is wrong.

If you live in a parallel world where the daughter of a martyred president, niece of two U.S. Senators, and noted chum and endorsee of the current president-elect exists “way, way outside” the political arena, send me directions on how to get there. Ace, meanwhile, picks up the point about Palin and wonders why we’re suddenly being told that life experience matters an awful lot when raising five kids — and, oh yeah, getting elected governor of a state — didn’t seem to count for much on the bottom half of the GOP ticket. He thinks it’s the media’s class prejudice at work, I think it’s more a prejudice against pols who don’t comport themselves as intellectuals (unlike Bush, Caroline automatically qualifies because she’s a liberal, and of course has written books, sort of), but tomato to-mah-to. Either way, expect her to repackage herself as the new icon of working moms, whose appointment will vindicate all the “little people” out there who had to make tough choices between family and career. Exit question for the moms reading: How do you feel about having matched — if not exceeded — Caroline’s accomplishment with far fewer means at your disposal, only to see her rewarded with a Senate seat? Do you feel empowered?


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MB4 on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

And lemme guess, they all voted for UberBama….

sMack on December 29, 2008 at 11:56 PM

52% of Americans don’t even know what the Senate is, or does.

progressoverpeace on December 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM

It’s always refreshing when the truth is offered.

Travis1 on December 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM

The staggering fact is that the stage is being set for a social revolution like the French one – a much messier affair that a nice clean political revolution a la 1776.

That is precisely how I see it, VV.

[QUOTE]I really think that the elites regard well over 50% of the country as belonging to an underclass that can be bamboozled and /or ignored. Not a real bright idea.[/QUOTE]

I ditto that as well. Particularly if things should go wrong enough for people to get mad.

I think they’ve only gotten away with it so far because many people want to think they are talking about somebody ELSE. People living in the city think, well, they mean the country people are stupid. People living in the Midwest think, well, they mean Southerners. Everyone tries to be NOT who they mean.

As it becomes more bald though – with more insults, and more ridiculous assertions they think everyone is stupid enough to accept, simply because it is what they are told – I think more people will get fed up with it.

I’m ahead of the curve on it, due to living in the South for some years now, and they certainly mince no words about Southerners.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems to me that as recently as ten years ago, no one would have dared to treat working people like Joe the Plumber like vermin (I used to think Democrats were FOR the working people), and few would have spoken so openly – and repeatedly – about Southerners as “inbred,” or Alaskans as “trailer trash.”

So I don’t think they will get away with this exponentially growing contempt for all that long. I’m personally ready for the revolution, and I know damn sure which side I’m going to be on.

Alana on December 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM

I just can’t get over that WaPo editorial referenced in the post here.

Yes, her portfolio is diverse, and when I first read the press accounts, I too had my doubts. Okay, I thought, she went to Harvard, then Columbia Law School. Very nice. A book on the Bill of Rights. Check. Another on the right to privacy. Check, check. The three-day-a-week fundraising job for New York schools. Triple check. But two poetry anthologies? The whole thing just didn’t quite add up.

“Diverse”. LOL…just so funny.

ddrintn on December 30, 2008 at 12:08 AM

I really think that the elites regard well over 50% of the country as belonging to an underclass that can be bamboozled and /or ignored. Not a real bright idea.

Venusian Visitor on December 29, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Why shouldn’t they? The 50%+ keep proving it every chance they get. It’s not a bright idea, just a simple observation.

DarkCurrent on December 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM

Why shouldn’t they? The 50%+ keep proving it every chance they get. It’s not a bright idea, just a simple observation.

DarkCurrent on December 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM

Well, when you consider that there is about a 30% drop out rate in high school, that only leaves about 20% that are “educated” that need to be indoctrinated. Then you figure 25% work for the government in some capacity (state, federal, teaching, etc.)…so quite a few of them will vote liberal. Then you figure just 10% are wack jobs (just like 10% of conservatives are wacko) and it doesn’t take long to build to over 50%.

right2bright on December 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM

Save for an accident of chronology, I’d say that Trig Palin was more qualified than 52% of the Senators currently in office, and 100% of the Kennedys.

And, I might add that the chronological infirmity is strictly Constitutional, and not a question of maturity or “disability”. (“No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen.” — Article I, section 3) Like anyone else his age, he has ample years to develop and demonstrate his character.

If we’re going to base our political representation on heredity, we’d be better served to reward pluck, tolerance, a love for family and country, and a call to service than a self-serving culture of whiny “deserving”.

cthulhu on December 30, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Back last summer and fall, the general consensus around most conservative enclaves was that “We’re Screwed ’08″. This only underscores that consensus. And many still think Governor, GOVERNOR, Palin was not qualified to be Vice President or to run the country in a crisis. GIVE ME A FREAKIN’ BREAK. And the elites want us to believe that Ms. Schlossberg is more qualified than Governor Palin? Just what the hell has she governed of any consequence? Has she been a corporate CEO? Yep. Weez screwed. And they didn’t even give us a tube of K-Y to ease the pain of entry. Creeps. It’s gonna be a LONG 4 years. Or longer. With this country’s lack of intelligence.

Roger Brown on December 30, 2008 at 12:42 AM

52% of Americans don’t even know what the Senate is, or does.

progressoverpeace on December 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM

It’s always refreshing when the truth is offered.

Travis1 on December 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM

LOL I absolutely agree that at least 52% don’t know the makeup and function of the Senate according to Article I, Sewction 3, but I’ll bet way over 8)% know that the Senate is a gang of aristocratic crooks that steals our wealth and runs the country in its own best interest!

Venusian Visitor on December 30, 2008 at 12:49 AM

8)% 80%

Venusian Visitor on December 30, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Why is anyone surprised, look who’s president elect.

Kini on December 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM

Yeah, Obama’s in, all right, but the media, mobsters, tycoons, and aristocrats made an all-out effort. The NYT and Tribune company basically committed suicide to get their guy in; they spent every bit of their credibility capital to do it and hastenened their demise.

Same with the TV media; even Fox News is way down because of perceived bias. And, I don’t know about anyone else, but there’s scarcely a magazine I will buy anymore, and it’s a sacrifice because magazines were something I enjoyed very much before this got personal.

Obama can’t possibly deliver what his zombie voters expect of him – whatever that is – and I predict a vicious backlash when they realize that the New Boss is the Same As The Old Boss. Then, when people on both sides of the aisle are feeling like duped serfs on the Obama estate, they’re going to have to come up with a super-duper emergency to take everyone’s mind off the realization that we’ve all been screwed by the aristocracy.

Venusian Visitor on December 30, 2008 at 2:19 AM

In other news, 52% of the American People are total morons. More at eleven.

SuperCool on December 30, 2008 at 2:23 AM

“you can never be too rich or too thin”… well Caroline just proved that to be so wrong. No wonder the muslims, want to kill us.

Sergei on December 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM

DinobotPrime, Curtiss P-40B -

Forget about Frau Schlossberg. Don´t dump on Grayson. They are basically Americans. They even play baseball. Grayson may have needed the Manties at first, but they had an industrial base. Unlike the US today, they can build big ships and lots of them.

Back on topic: If Sarah Palin is a bright class A sun, Kennedy is a dim red dwarf.

Red, geddit?

el gordo on December 30, 2008 at 4:47 AM

Barbara Boxer. Patty Murray. Lincoln Chafee.

I hope this helps.

Shivas Irons on December 30, 2008 at 7:11 AM

After two tours it looks like she is fading fast. bbbbut isn’t she entitled? Remember she’s a Kennedy. Who are we to question her obvious right to the senate seat?

kanda on December 30, 2008 at 7:39 AM

Terrific: 52% of Americans think Caroline’s qualified

Qualified for what?

NoFanofLibs on December 30, 2008 at 8:07 AM

If we’re going to base our political representation on heredity, we’d be better served to reward pluck, tolerance, a love for family and country, and a call to service than a self-serving culture of whiny “deserving”.

cthulhu on December 30, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Agreed. And let’s not forget brains as a requirement too.

abcurtis on December 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM

Terrific: 52% of Americans think Caroline’s qualified

No surprise. Obama’s the p-e. Post for us the latest public poll on Congressional approval rating. Given that hardly anyone trusts Congress, then it would be far fetched to say that as the legislative branch, the body of our elected officials are deemed “qualified” to do any more than disappoint America as they disassemble the Constitution.

Caroline is omitting her Onassis name given in early childhood until marriage, and omitting her matrimonial name as well. No Greek or Jewish associations. Just run on the French make-over of a criminal Irish American family. Making and selling alcohol would be forgotten but for the murders and blood that greased the Kennedy bootlegging operations. That the media with the DNC fabricated a cardboard castle to hide the gruesome Kennedy gore and call it Camelot is what Caroline is counting on working again.

WWHD? what will Hillary do

maverick muse on December 30, 2008 at 8:38 AM

Electing unqualified inexperienced people to congress … kind of like handing an MP3 player to a wild chimpanzee … when the music starts playing its going to shreik in surprised panic then wreck the player trying to discover what makes it work.
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philly_PA on December 30, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Well, 52% of Americans have been wrong before. By the way, where is “everymom” CK’s hubby & kiddies? Gee, ever notice we never see “Mother of the Year” with the adoring family.

Done That on December 30, 2008 at 9:34 AM

The left has pulled a “Jim Jones”on a little more than half of the sheep in this country . . . the task ahead is to get them back before the next national elections.

rplat on December 30, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Why shouldn’t they? The 50%+ keep proving it every chance they get. It’s not a bright idea, just a simple observation.

DarkCurrent on December 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM

How true. And these dumb asses vote. You should see the issue knowledge stats on non-Aasian minority groups. And the dems need these people in order to win because educated people are too hard to fool.

As we migrate to a non-white nation status, it will produce some interesting history. The problem with being a pioneer is that pioneers get arrows in the back. I just hope we don’t wind up like Haiti.

saiga on December 30, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Welcome to America where anyone can make it with hard work and integrity.

Or take the shortcut instead and have “Kennedy” in your name.

This woman is an example of the cult of celebrity gone wild, at least now you guys can stop pretending that qualifications matter at all.

G-man on December 30, 2008 at 10:08 AM

52% think Barry is too. It takes all kinds…

Vashta.Nerada on December 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM

I’m surprised it’s that low. I would expect the number to be 75% or higher. This means some of the people are actually paying attention.

angryed on December 30, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Name recognition remember the Eddie Murphy movie “A Distinguished Gentleman” where he gets elected because his name is the same as the dead incumbent so he puts his name on the ballot. So People just see the surname Kennedy, and will vote for a Kennedy? They all are not related, take a look at how many people share the “Surname” Kennedy. To call what is going on- the above poll, Herd Mentality is probably being unfair to cloven hoved animals.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104114/

Dr Evil on December 30, 2008 at 10:39 AM

No surprise here. These are the people who put Bommie in the Prez seat.
It just shows what we already knew about what the country has become and our first indicators were the Clintons rise to power.

johnnyU on December 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM

52% of, you know, Americans, you know, are, you know, obviously, you know, under-educated, and are, you know, influenced by, you know, anything, you know, “glitzy”.

Morons

hopefloats on December 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM

I’m going with Carlin’s assessment of the public. There’s a mountain of evidence for it.

Dark-Star on December 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Congressmen are like diapers. You need to change them often, and for the same reason.

Cheshire Cat on December 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Best election advice ever.

Dark-Star on December 30, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Dear Governor Paterson,

I will put it nicely: fish or cut bait. (For those on Manhattan’s east side – make a decision)

Fedup in NY.

diogenes on December 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Caroline should be seated in the Senate the old fashioned way. She should EARN it! Her resume is far too thin…just as she is.The double standard is beyond nauseating. She is not half the woman Sarah Palin is and never will be.(you know…you know…you know…)

Puleeze! Enough of the nepotism. This is a representative democracy and she does NOT respresent but a handful of elite constituents.

Buckeye Babe on December 30, 2008 at 5:17 PM

“uh, look, u know, uh, this is the moment, u know? and, I think the people know this is a time for change to something that is what was before but isn’t, you know? uh, ya, that’s what I wanted to say, and…uh,…”
speech pattern researchers find most endearing to the American public? or that pollsters find most endearing? or that Baby boomers find endearing or that boomer offspring are willing to vote for, because they were taught by boomers that meaning is irrelevant if not coupled with immediate irrational knee-jerk gratification.

anti-boomer on December 31, 2008 at 12:33 PM

ck is just a QUALIFIED

TomLawler on December 31, 2008 at 1:07 PM

to continue c kennedy is as qualified as her uncle. caroline has not done any service to her fellow man. she just walks around and sucks up the name. caroline has no contact with the real world. my goodness 52% think she is able to serve as a senator?

TomLawler on December 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Isn’t this just a reiteration of how little the public thinks of our political class? After all, half of Minnesotans think that Al Franken is qualified to be a senator.

kozmocostello on December 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM

Geesh. I read the comments with amusement.

Is CK qualified?

Based on the current standards being set, I’d say Caroline would fit right in.

Gimme a friggin’ break.

She could probably do a better job as Senate Majority Leader than the current clown.

Saltysam on December 31, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Well, so could anybody with enough sense to read this forum. But none of us are being considered for the Senate because we aren’t aristocrats. Which is the only reason that Kennedy twit is being considered.

My advice: get involved in mob activity now; support your local croocked politicians. Your son will be an ambassador, your grandson will be president, and all subsequent offspring will be senators without regard to how many women they kill or how little effort they expend in preparing themselves for public service.

What a country.

Venusian Visitor on January 1, 2009 at 2:32 AM

How is this for a 2009 New Year’s Resolution: “No mentioning of ANY member of the Kennedy Crime Family in any media outlet”?

I’m sure I’m not alone with my absolute disgust with the Kennedy Crime Family.

Mooseman on January 1, 2009 at 9:31 AM

It does not strike me as odd that 52% of the American public find her qualified. Good grief, my neighbors in this state have elected and re-elected Patty Murray to the Senate and that woman does not have the brains to get a head ache.

Chuck from Tacoma on January 1, 2009 at 10:41 PM

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