Awww: Palin’s a grandma

posted at 7:10 pm on December 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

Her first grandkid. Or, if you’re an Atlantic reader, her second, the first having been born to the same woman, er, eight months ago.

Bristol Palin, the 18-year-old daughter of former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, gave birth on Sunday to a healthy 7 lb., 4 oz., baby boy in Palmer, Alaska.

“We think it’s wonderful,” said Colleen Jones, the sister of Bristol’s grandmother Sally Heath, who confirmed the news. “The baby is fine and Bristol is doing well. Everyone is excited.”…

Bristol Palin is currently residing in Wasilla and completing her high-school diploma through correspondence courses.

Johnston is studying to become an electrician. He told the Associated Press in October that he and fiancée Bristol plan to wed in 2009 and raise the child together.

I know there’s some Keith Olbermann special comment material buried in here somewhere, probably having to do with illegal drugs. Can’t wait! Exit question: Anyone want to try to guess the name? You’ll find it at the link up top; all I’ll say by way of a hint is that it’s very much in keeping with the ‘Cuda’s naming conventions. Feel free to use this if you need help.

Update: Commenters are wondering whether Sullivan will accuse Palin of giving birth to this one herself.


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So you’ve got civil unions everywhere, which has all of the legal rights as marriage….but you want to be married, a wholly symbolic gesture, in a Christian church…even though you clearly hate Christians?

jimmy the notable on December 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Those rights are not everywhere, and they rarely cross state lines. and who said all marriages are in a christian church? city hall is a christian church? but anyways can we get this thread back to the hypocrisy of Palin supporters?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM

jimmy the notable on December 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM

It’s all about the outrage. It’s in, dontcha know?

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Pretty close…I don’t think our “sins damn us to Hell” unless we turn our back on the sins,I like to thing the resurrection, beating death back was the reason for our salvation.
Our escape from “damnation” will be His choice, not ours…nothing we can do will change His mind. By His grace will be be saved.
And I like your last sentence, “And forgiving is far and away different from accepting, promoting or condoning sin…”

right2bright on December 29, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Not to turn this into a theological debate, but yes, it is our choice, sort of. We can choose to accept Christ as our Lord and turn our lives over to Him, or turn away from Him and allow our sinful nature to rule our lives. It is by His Grace that we can choose Him as our Lord. Many are called, few are chosen. Sadly, there are those among us who will never be able to achieve salvation. For what purpose they serve on this Earth, we mortal humans may never know, but they serve His purpose and His Will.

So to answer “Noneya” at 10:03 – forgiving your partner and seeking his forgiveness is but a small part of it. You must also seek forgiveness from God, and repent of your sin, vow to try to never sin again and turn your life over to the Lord, Jesus Christ if you seek entry into Heaven. Let the kitchen table be wobbly, and let the Good Book be the Rock and Foundation for your Life. The rest of it will take care of itself.

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Keep your love, just give us marriage equality…..

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Noneya,

Why are you even on HotAir if you are a militant gay? Has someone asked you to come here and rabblerouse or something? I don’t get it.

By the way, instead of rationalizing male-on-male lust, you can try to beat the vice. Don’t be so quick to give up on women. I’m sure there is a woman out there for you. Man up and start thinking of others. If there is one word I can use to describe gay men and the lifestyle it is: selfishness. Even my liberal relatives agree that that is the one word that pretty much explains much of the behavior.

Reach out to others. It isn’t about you all the time.

True Christianity is living for God and man through the Son.

You have NO clue how much Christians love gay men and how we are always saying prayers for them, and hoping they turn from lust and fight the good fight. It’s tough. Join the club.

Sapwolf on December 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

As to the “What would Quayle say?” Two possible options:

1. Nothing because she is a Republican so anything he would criticize the other side for is forgiven. (For reference compare Republicans circa 1994-96 to today’s Republicans)

OR

2. Nothing because he wants her to stay in the game so she takes his place as a political punchline.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Love and sex between gays?”burn in hell”,Sinners!says GOP!

more cherry-picking and hypocracy from the religious right…

Noneya on Dec 29,2008 at 8:59PM.

Noneya:Boy,you are so confused and bitter!

You must of voted for Bill Clinton, when he threw
the ‘same sex’ under the bus when he promised them
marriage in his re-election bid!

And,your ever-helpful Liberal biased media is telling
you what the GOP didn’t say!

And,can’t you moonbats get enough of ‘Christian
Bashing’,it has only been 4 days since Christ Mas!

canopfor on December 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

What about that statement merits censorship? Do you wear a crash helmet when you comment?

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Allowing trolls like Noneya to comment freely degrades the overall quality of the comments of the website. If we’re not going to ban people, we should at least add some sort of advanced comment features like user ratings or karma or at the very least the ability to block comments from a certain user. There used to be intelligent discussions in the comments, there used to be intelligent commenters, but now they all leave because any time there’s something worth discussing, we’re stuck dealing with morons like Noneya simply commenting to get a rise out of people.

jimmy the notable on December 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Most Christians do not believe in ostracizing sinners despite what you think Noneya. Just because you hate the sin does not mean you hate the sinner. For you lefties the Inquisition is your ideal forum-Sarah Palin your ideal candidate to be tortured on the rack and to be burned at the stake.

technopeasant on December 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM

As to the “What would Quayle say?” Two possible options:

1. Nothing because she is a Republican so anything he would criticize the other side for is forgiven. (For reference compare Republicans circa 1994-96 to today’s Republicans)

OR

2. Nothing because he wants her to stay in the game so she takes his place as a political punchline.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

If she’s such a punchline, we wouldn’t need your assurances of that fact. Wish-fulfillment. *sigh* Guess I’ll head over to HuffPo to laugh about Caroline…not. LOL

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM

By the way, instead of rationalizing male-on-male lust, you can try to beat the vice. Don’t be so quick to give up on women. I’m sure there is a woman out there for you. Man up and start thinking of others. If there is one word I can use to describe gay men and the lifestyle it is: selfishness. Even my liberal relatives agree that that is the one word that pretty much explains much of the behavior.

Sapwolf on December 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

You would really have me put some poor woman through the same heartache as Mrs. Haggard and Mrs. Craig? If I truly were selfish, I might just do that, good thing I’m not.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Oh,Noneya,I forgot to tell you,

‘Same Sex’ Marriage is Legal,

in Ontario,Canada!

canopfor on December 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM

There used to be intelligent discussions in the comments, there used to be intelligent commenters, but now they all leave because any time there’s something worth discussing, we’re stuck dealing with morons like Noneya simply commenting to get a rise out of people.

On the other hand, he does shatter the stereotype that gays are all articulate and witty.

Jim Treacher on December 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Those rights are not everywhere, and they rarely cross state lines. and who said all marriages are in a christian church? city hall is a christian church? but anyways can we get this thread back to the hypocrisy of Palin supporters?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM

What hypocrisy? Who said marriage is a “right”?

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Noneya you know… that I know… that I don’t like you because you know..

An Era of Hate on December 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Allowing trolls like Noneya to comment freely degrades the overall quality of the comments of the website. If we’re not going to ban people, we should at least add some sort of advanced comment features like user ratings or karma or at the very least the ability to block comments from a certain user. There used to be intelligent discussions in the comments, there used to be intelligent commenters, but now they all leave because any time there’s something worth discussing, we’re stuck dealing with morons like Noneya simply commenting to get a rise out of people.

jimmy the notable on December 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM

User ratings I am dead against, though would wear my negative ratings as a badge of honor, that’s why its called the “wilderness”.

If you think that the opinion of the majority is any measure of quality, look at pop culture, religion, the two party system, or our President-Elect. No thank you.

Blocking can be done manually by just skipping over comments. Even if it was an option I would never use it because I am more interested in people I disagree with than agree with…”at a boys” won’t make one any smarter.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

On the other hand, he does shatter the stereotype that gays are all articulate and witty.

Jim Treacher on December 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Did we stumble upon Sullivan’s secret Hotair account?

jimmy the notable on December 29, 2008 at 10:25 PM

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Atta boy!

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM

and still unmarried, ay? WWDQS?*

*What Would Dan Quayle Say?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 8:54 PM

Probably he would congratulate them and wish them the best. Quayle’s remarks were about the necessity of welfare reform and a call for an end to the notion that government checks were just as good as a father, numbskull.

Bristol and Levi will be married parents. Quayle’s main objection in his San Francisco speech in 1992 was Hollywood’s promotion of single parenthood without fathers as “just another ‘lifestyle choice.’” But I can understand if you thought Quayle might think differently, since the MSM at the time did its usual stereotypical smear of Quayle; the New York Daily News said on its front page the following day, “Quayle to Murphy Brown: YOU TRAMP!”

Stop talkin’ outcheraz.

L.N. Smithee on December 29, 2008 at 10:27 PM

I hate to do something crazy like bring up something related to the topic of this thread, but…Here’s a report on Bristol and Levi possibly selling the first pics of Tripp to People. I’m not a huge fan of Hollywood celebrities doing this, but I understand the reasoning behind it. And, in this case, it’s probably better than having the paparazzi getting the money for the pics. The article at the link says there’s “no word” on if the money will be donated to charity as is sometimes the case with “celeb baby deal[s]“. I say: Keep it. Bristol and Levi are not rich. That money can help them get a start.

meltenn on December 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM

I knew my ex about three months before we got married, and these ‘kids’ know each other for THREE YEARS. I think this one will probably make it.

Sapwolf on December 29, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Bristol’s own parents met in high school and seem to have known right away that they were meant for each other.

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

If she’s such a punchline, we wouldn’t need your assurances of that fact. Wish-fulfillment. *sigh* Guess I’ll head over to HuffPo to laugh about Caroline…not. LOL

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Umm okay this is real pretzel logic. If one calls her a punchline she must not be because someone called her a punchline.

It wasn’t a wish. In the beginning I thought she would be an excellent choice go back to the archives if you want. I said she was the best choice that McCain could have made and was surprised that she even accepted the nomination. Previous to the selection I thought she turned it down in private like Jindal because McCain was a destined loser. But then she got manhandled by Katie Couric. Katie Couric?!? The lady whose hard hitting exclusives used to be back to school fashions? Give me a break, that was just the tip of the iceberg. Yes Virginia, she is a punchline.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Keep the money!

An Era of Hate on December 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Atta boy!

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM

They won’t make anyone dumber if they aren’t solicited.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Andy, if you were born to Sarah Palin, your name would be:

Tarp Lazer Palin

Andrew, if you were born to Sarah Palin, your name would be:

Rock Crane Palin

Andrew Mark, if you were born to Sarah Palin, your name would be:

Trough Gutted Palin

Heh — Some variations on my name (and the addition of my middle), all of them neat!

HYTEAndy on December 29, 2008 at 10:34 PM

No one in this country can ever pronounce my name right. It’s not that hard: Samir Na-gheen-an-a-jar. Nagheenanajar.”

apollyonbob on December 29, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Samir Nagheen-Not gonna work here anymore however you say his last name. “Office Space” is a great movie. Can’t believe no one knew where you going with that!

I love the line where he says that every day since he started at Initech has been worse than the day before so everyday he sees the psychiatrist is pretty much the worst day of his life. Kinda like every day since Obama got elected.

rmel80 on December 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Well I guess Sarah never tried to ban those “god awful”* baby naming books from her libraries.

just kidding

(*not an oxymoron)

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Oh I will probably really regret further feeding the troll, but …

Marriage should not be in the purview of the state. At all. For anyone. The state should not be in the business of defining, promoting, prohibiting, regulating or legalizing marriage. Marriage is a spiritual bonding, traditionally between a man and a woman. For many centuries, no government bothered itself with who was married to who. It is only within recent history that there has been official recording of marriage by government agencies, and only within recent decades has there been state regulation of marriage.

It is time for it to stop.

Let the state record-keep for those who wish to enjoy the legal and financial benefits of a civil union. If two (or more) legal consenting adults wish to make a union and have it legally sanctioned so that they can file taxes together, share insurance and hold legal standing as a partner, then fine, so be it.

Marriage can co-exist with civil unions, or they can exist separately. But marriage is the love bond between, traditionally, a man and a woman. It is up to the couple, same or opposite sex, to sanctify and justify their marriage before God. It is they who will stand before Him on their Judgment Day, and it is they who will answer to Him for their lives and how they chose to live. No one else’s business, least of all the state’s.

Now, why “Noneya” would want any part of marriage, having rejected the notion of love, and derided Christianity and those who follow Christ, is a great unknown.

But as for making laws, we live in a representative republic. Our laws are decided by a representation of the majority, our Congress critters having been elected by a voting majority. So, with 75 – 82% of Americans identifying as Christian, and 2 – 10% declaring themselves to be gay … well, guess who makes the laws? I guess you could try something different, say a totalitarian government like Iran, and see how you fare there. Let us know how that works out for you.

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Umm okay this is real pretzel logic. If one calls her a punchline she must not be because someone called her a punchline.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Um, not really. You’re not using her as a punchline; you’re saying she should be a punchline. Huge difference.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Marriage should not be in the purview of the state. At all. For anyone. The state should not be in the business of defining, promoting, prohibiting, regulating or legalizing marriage.

Yeah my thought control classes on Sundays always said it was a sacrament. Contracts should be sacrament neutral.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM

But then she got manhandled by Katie Couric. Katie Couric?!? The lady whose hard hitting exclusives used to be back to school fashions? Give me a break, that was just the tip of the iceberg. Yes Virginia, she is a punchline.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

By the way, a supposedly “bad” interview makes someone a punchline? How logical is that? You mean, “I can see Russia from my house!” “I don’t read any newspapers!” That sort of punchline? That isn’t “punchline”; that’s partisan caricature.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Dude. I was agreeing with you as only an illiterate hillbilly can. The only reason for participating here is the divergence of opinion, (along with the great writing and cool links, of course.)

You are a humorless sort, aren’t you?

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM

You are a humorless sort, aren’t you?

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM

No way. He knows a punchline when he sees one. ;)

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Um, not really. You’re not using her as a punchline; you’re saying she should be a punchline. Huge difference.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Where did you see that? I said that Dan Quayle would possibly and theoretically not say anything about Palin’s bastard grandchild because he wants her to stay in the game and take his place as the political punchline that he is. She is a punchline, I just don’t think she has been around long enough to hit Quayle territory yet. That’s why she has to stand in front of beheaded turkey’s to stay in the news, it’s not like she is going to make some substantive speech or take substantive stance on any given issue.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Sorry I am just used to ill will. I don’t get many “atta boys”.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:49 PM

That’s why she has to stand in front of beheaded turkey’s to stay in the news, it’s not like she is going to make some substantive speech or take substantive stance on any given issue.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Hmm, that’s weird. Why is she so hated then? Her glasses? Hairstyle?

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Sorry I am just used to ill will. I don’t get many “atta boys”.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Not necessary. It’s all in good fun, except for the part where I disagree with most everything you say.

:-)

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM

By the way, a supposedly “bad” interview makes someone a punchline?

You betcha!

Listen. The Republican Party is the only hope between the two for any chance of Federalism and limited government in the future.

Palin…

is too vague to give us any of these. Learn from previous Republicans.

dumbs down the rhetoric to such a point that it is very insulting.

doesn’t seem to give a damn about the issues in the first place.

will be electoral suicide on a national level.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Jim Treacher on December 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM

HA!!HA!!! LOL

katy on December 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Well said Lev.

dakine on December 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Hmm, that’s weird. Why is she so hated then? Her glasses? Hairstyle?

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM

It is her potential to ignite passion that they fear, and thus hate.

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM

The Governor stands behind beheaded turkey’s to stay in the news? Maybe the Governor isn’t aware of the 800 interviews requests she has..

An Era of Hate on December 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM

But as for making laws, we live in a representative republic. Our laws are decided by a representation of the majority, our Congress critters having been elected by a voting majority. So, with 75 – 82% of Americans identifying as Christian, and 2 – 10% declaring themselves to be gay … well, guess who makes the laws? I guess you could try something different, say a totalitarian government like Iran, and see how you fare there. Let us know how that works out for you.

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM

our laws should NOT be decided by your bible, that’s what I meant, especially since so there’s so much cherry-picking involved. Civil rights should not be in the purview of the church. your idea about marriage ain’t half bad though….

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Listen. The Republican Party is the only hope between the two for any chance of Federalism and limited government in the future.

Wow…and I was just about to take you seriously. ;)

Palin…

is too vague to give us any of these. Learn from previous Republicans.

dumbs down the rhetoric to such a point that it is very insulting.

doesn’t seem to give a damn about the issues in the first place.

will be electoral suicide on a national level.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Too vague…dumbs down…well, if your ideas are such that only a Libertarian college professor can understand them, good luck in getting elected.

As for not seeming to give a damn about the issues in the first place, I don’t know what would qualify in your book, other than manning a barricade to protest the income tax.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

as only an illiterate hillbilly can…

hillbillyjim on December 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM

:)

Entelechy on December 29, 2008 at 11:02 PM

The picture is nostalgic for me – I miss seeing her face all the time. Dolliest Grandma ever…

Jaibones on December 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

I don’t hold the Couric interview against her. One of the greatest female politicians of all time got owned on live television by an ordinary citizen. I’m speaking of Margaret Thatcher who was grilled by a housewife on her decision to sink the Belgrano.

Everyone has a bad television moment every now and then. Did you ever see Reagan’s poor performance before the Tower Commission? It was twenty times more embarrassing than the Couric interview.

BTW, when do we get to see you on television?

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM

our laws should NOT be decided by your bible, that’s what I meant, especially since so there’s so much cherry-picking involved. Civil rights should not be in the purview of the church. your idea about marriage ain’t half bad though….

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Name a law that IS decided by the Bible. Keep in mind that cultures other than biblical ones have taken a dim view of homosexuality as well. Gay marriage doesn’t seem to be the norm in China or Japan, for example.

The thing is, Christians for the most part are the ones who are most vocal against gay marriage and homosexuality in general, therefore they are convenient targets.

The Marquis de Sade could protest laws against murder on pretty much the same basis that you protest laws against gay marriage. It’s just narrow-minded bigots clinging to their ideas of biblical morality. In other words, overlap between the law and religion doesn’t necessarily mean one is always the product of the other.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Elitist=apparently anyone who asks for anything close to specifics

It’s not like I am asking her to recite Hayek verbatim.

If you’re running for VP you should be able to tell me at least one Supreme Court decision you disagree with. Most conservative voters could run off a few, let alone CANDIDATES.

Spouting out buzzwords like “reform” and “maverick” and talking about greedy Wall Street ain’t gonna do it for me.

Watch Bobby Jindal’s interviews and tell me why she should even be considered anywhere near his league.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Name a law that IS decided by the Bible. Keep in mind that cultures other than biblical ones have taken a dim view of homosexuality as well. Gay marriage doesn’t seem to be the norm in China or Japan, for example.

The thing is, Christians for the most part are the ones who are most vocal against gay marriage and homosexuality in general, therefore they are convenient targets.

The Marquis de Sade could protest laws against murder on pretty much the same basis that you protest laws against gay marriage. It’s just narrow-minded bigots clinging to their ideas of biblical morality. In other words, overlap between the law and religion doesn’t necessarily mean one is always the product of the other.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Well, the law against gay marriage for one. “Marriage should be between one man and one woman” is a biblical argument, you are facetious to suggest otherwise. Keep in mind mind that other countries such as Canada, Spain and the Netherlands do NOT have your archaic “dim” views of homosexuality.

and did you really gonna compare murder to same-sex marriage? really? and I’m the bigot?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Well, the law against gay marriage for one. “Marriage should be between one man and one woman” is a biblical argument, you are facetious to suggest otherwise. Keep in mind mind that other countries such as Canada, Spain and the Netherlands do NOT have your archaic “dim” views of homosexuality.

and did you really gonna compare murder to same-sex marriage? really? and I’m the bigot?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Not comparing murder to same sex marriage; just using it as an illustration of the vacuity of blaming religion for the lack of some law you want.

Anyway, there are atheists who are against gay marriage as well. So much for the “only Bible-thumpers” argument.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Watch Bobby Jindal’s interviews and tell me why she should even be considered anywhere near his league.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

I like Bobby Jindal a lot, but just wait until the press starts to rake up the exorcism story. As you are such anti-religion bigot yourself, I can’t wait to see how you’ll react to those stories.

Have you read the article Jindal wrote for the New Oxford Review back in the early 1990s about the exorcism he participated in? What were your views on that, Mr. Militant Atheist?

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Watch Bobby Jindal’s interviews and tell me why she should even be considered anywhere near his league.

LevStrauss on December 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Oh, I’ve had college professors who could put Jindal to shame. I wouldn’t want them anywhere near the White House, though. Not saying I’d be against Jindal at all, just saying that the egghead factor doesn’t do it for me. YMMV.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

I don’t think I’m alone in saying that I’ve had about enough of your marriage tirade. You can get married any time you want to. No one is preventing you from getting married. You’re perfectly correct in believing that you have a right to be married if you so choose.

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Sorry I am just used to ill will.

Maybe it’s you?

By the way, Couric was also on the receiving end of Biden’s “FDR gave a TV address to the nation after the stock market crash of ’29″ bon mot. But Palin is the dumb one.

Jim Treacher on December 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM

our laws should NOT be decided by your bible,

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

OK then, how should we decide our laws? Where do we get our moral code from? Is it something that humans just happened to think up? Or could there be some basis by which we decide what is right and what is wrong? Some very ancient basis perhaps? One that has been proven to be the Truth many times over?

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Keep in mind mind that other countries such as Canada, Spain and the Netherlands do NOT have your archaic “dim” views of homosexuality.

and did you really gonna compare murder to same-sex marriage? really? and I’m the bigot?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

By the way, just to clarify, I couldn’t care less what consenting adults do in their bedrooms. I do care a little when they demand society’s approbation.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:26 PM

By the way, Couric was also on the receiving end of Biden’s “FDR gave a TV address to the nation after the stock market crash of ‘29″ bon mot. But Palin is the dumb one.

Jim Treacher on December 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM

The funny part about that is that I don’t think Couric knew any better herself.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Name a law that IS decided by the Bible. Keep in mind that cultures other than biblical ones have taken a dim view of homosexuality as well. Gay marriage doesn’t seem to be the norm in China or Japan, for example.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Adultery and fornication is also condemned in Chinese culture. Marriage is a part of every civilization and culture. They may differ about how many wives or husbands one may have, but they all agree that you can’t have just any man or any woman any time you want. And no civilization has ever considered marriage as anything other than between a man and a woman — not even in ancient Greece or Rome.

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:28 PM

and I’m the bigot?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Never answered the challenge of Matthew 7:6…as I said, you throw the stones, then run a hide when challenged.
Well, I can see the liberal side of you is strong…
When you have no standards to live by, as you so proudly seem to aspire to, then you will never fall short, you will never make a mistake, you will never be called a hypocrite, you will never sin…you set the standard, and you can move that standard any way you want.
If you want sex with multiple partners…then you just say okay, if you want multiple partners without a commitment, then you think that is fine.
The liberal ploy is not to have any standard, then attack the person who has standards, but fails to achieve them. Someday take the time to read “Think a second time”, by Dennis Pragar, and read the chapter on being a Hypocrite. You, at your young age, will learn a valuable lesson.
Since you are adverse to bible reading, which is not surprising since it does state something about light under a bushel (you won’t get it, but most of us will). Try this one on for size, from Teddy Roosevelt.

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

right2bright on December 29, 2008 at 11:29 PM

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:28 PM

That should have been “are condemned,” not “is condemned.”

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Breaking:

Dick Cheney to Sullivan … “go F#ck yourself”

joey24007 on December 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Keep in mind mind that other countries such as Canada, Spain and the Netherlands do NOT have your archaic “dim” views of homosexuality.

and did you really gonna compare murder to same-sex marriage? really? and I’m the bigot?

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM

News to you, it is not against the law to have same sex unions in the U.S.
You didn’t know that?
In every state of the union it is lawful for you to have your relationship, and it can be legalized by contract.
You didn’t know that?
It is legal for you to marry, if you are a man, any woman you want, just like I can marry any woman I want.
So you and I have the same rights.
So go ahead and have your union, BTW, guess you haven’t heard, Netherlands have now begun to re-think their liberal sex laws. Realizing it isn’t such a great idea after all.
Here

“People are saying we should have values; people are asking for more and more rules in society.”…members of parliament have introduced a bill that would allow civil officials with moral objections to refuse to perform gay marriages. And Dutch authorities are trying to curtail the activities of an abortion rights group that assists women in neighboring countries where abortions are illegal.

Looks like your little experiment is failing…it only took a few years for it to sink in…your kind of thinking destroys nations, not builds them.

right2bright on December 29, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Well I guess Sarah never tried to ban those “god awful”* baby naming books from her libraries.

just kidding

(*not an oxymoron)

LevStrauss** on December 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM

(**is a moron)

L.N. Smithee on December 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM

OK then, how should we decide our laws? Where do we get our moral code from? Is it something that humans just happened to think up? Or could there be some basis by which we decide what is right and what is wrong? Some very ancient basis perhaps? One that has been proven to be the Truth many times over?

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM

The only thing proven is the hypocrisy of people like you, who decide that some of Leviticus is valid and some of it not, and support certain laws according to it.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Congrats to Bristol and Levi…

and to Gov. Palin.

I wish them the best..

DaveC on December 29, 2008 at 11:44 PM

The only thing proven is the hypocrisy of people like you, who decide that some of Leviticus is valid and some of it not, and support certain laws according to it.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM

OK, that would cover those who have religious objections to gay marriage; but then there are those who aren’t religious who oppose gay marriage as well. So it would be better if you laid off the religion-bashing in presenting arguments for gay marriage. Betcha can’t do it.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Jim62sch on December 29, 2008 at 9:40 PM

The AP has changed their story. The part about Johnston is still at the bottom, but the beginning is totally different.

Strange, I don’t see any apologies at the bottom for their earlier version. /sarc

meltenn on December 29, 2008 at 11:45 PM

“Noneya” you are just magnifying what most of us here already recognize as your total ignorance of the Bible, and a good deal of the English language. The laws of Leviticus are not what I am speaking of. Those are laws of the Old Testament. Do you even know why those laws have been set aside? And when? And by whom?

Of course you don’t. Why don’t you run along now, go wallow in your ignorance and immorality while the grown ups talk here.

Oh, and one other thing … Obama is opposed to gay marriage too. Didn’t you know that?

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

“Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM”

don’t like the western code, part of which is based upon leviticus? then go to saudi ya moron …

/eyeroll

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

The only thing proven is the hypocrisy of people like you, who decide that some of Leviticus is valid and some of it not, and support certain laws according to it.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Who said anything about Leviticus?

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

Never answered the challenge of Matthew 7:6…

right2bright on December 29, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I told you I can’t, the bible for once is finally put to good use- it is under one leg of my coffee table. and it’s my thinking that destroys nations? excuse me, but it was the buffoon your party put in the White House for 8 years that had 9/11, Katrina and the financial collapse happen on his watch!

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM

“LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM”

ya keep shattering his world with those FACTS …
:-)

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM

don’t like the western code, part of which is based upon leviticus? then go to saudi ya moron …

/eyeroll

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

actually you have much more in common with the Saudis that I do, you are both religious zealots, for one….

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:49 PM

“Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM”

katrina?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA — you lll just parrot it like some talisman, thinking that wins yer argument when all it does is demonstrate yer bds …

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:49 PM

“Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:49 PM”

hey jackass — i go to church with former bhuddists and my sister is married to a jew — ya really wanna play the “tolerance” game?!

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

But I can’t go without giving “Noneya” a hint … the verses that describe homosexual behavior as being sinful is in the NEW Testament. The verses that also describe marriage as being between a man and a woman are also in the NEW Testament.

Note also that I am against laws forbidding gays from forming civil unions. I am also against laws or legislation that re-defines marriage. I don’t care what you do, or with whom, as long as you are consenting adults. You can call yourself married to whomever you wish. It is not I that will have to stand before God and justify sinful behavior and bear the consequences of that sin. IOW, NMP.

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

“Noneya” you are just magnifying what most of us here already recognize as your total ignorance of the Bible, and a good deal of the English language. The laws of Leviticus are not what I am speaking of. Those are laws of the Old Testament. Do you even know why those laws have been set aside? And when? And by whom?

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

who can make any sense of that fairy tale book? it’s the weak-minded who need it to help them get through life. I’m fine on my own, thanks.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

I told you I can’t, the bible for once is finally put to good use- it is under one leg of my coffee table. and it’s my thinking that destroys nations? excuse me, but it was the buffoon your party put in the White House for 8 years that had 9/11, Katrina and the financial collapse happen on his watch!

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM

Oh, my. And when Carter was president we had the Iran thing, when Clinton was president we had the WTC prelim bombing…and the financial wreckage can be laid at the Democratic doorstep.

Anyway, your arguments are sort of like the old “anyone who opposes abortion is a wild-eyed holy rolling religious fundie bigot”. Tired, tired, tired. Surely you can do better than that.

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

DaveC on December 29, 2008 at 11:44 PM

I second that

joey24007 on December 29, 2008 at 11:52 PM

hey jackass — i go to church with former bhuddists and my sister is married to a jew — ya really wanna play the “tolerance” game?!

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM

oh so buddhists are only ok with you when they repent buddhism? how very tolerant….

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM

Oh, and one other thing … Obama is opposed to gay marriage too. Didn’t you know that?

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

Yeah, that’s true. Obama’s position on gay marriage appears to be similar to Dubya’s. What say you, Noneya? Is Obama a religious bigot?

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Bush compared to Palin

Exit question: which is the greater insult?

benny shakar on December 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM

I haven’t been following the whole religion discussion but, as Andrew Wilkow pointed out

Liberals like to get religious when they talk about poverty … but abortion? not so much

also, you don’t have to use religion as an argument as to why forcing a birth … collapsing the skull of a child and throwing the body parts in a dumpster is a bad thing

liberals don’t like it when somebody actually describes an abortion

joey24007 on December 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM

“Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM”

nice try puttin’ words in my mouth that ARE NOT THERE, you lying schmuck …

Buckaroo on December 29, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Never answered the challenge of Matthew 7:6…

right2bright on December 29, 2008 at 11:29 PM

And until the Good Lord sees fit to open his eyes, he never will … I Corinthians 1:18

LissaKay on December 29, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Bush compared to Palin

Exit question: which is the greater insult?

benny shakar on December 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Extra exit question: why do you care?

ddrintn on December 29, 2008 at 11:57 PM

I like Bobby Jindal a lot, but just wait until the press starts to rake up the exorcism story. As you are such anti-religion bigot yourself, I can’t wait to see how you’ll react to those stories.

Have you read the article Jindal wrote for the New Oxford Review back in the early 1990s about the exorcism he participated in? What were your views on that, Mr. Militant Atheist?

ramrocks on December 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM

I ridicule religions because they are ridiculous. Also I am not an atheist for the record, I just think trying to state what is with regards to creation or no creation, afterlife or no afterlife, God or no God etc. is just plain ridiculous when we all know that we don’t know the answer either way. We don’t have those answers so we should stop pretending, if there is a God pretending what he wants would seem to be an abomination.

Frankly if you espouse Federalism and limited government and communicate it effectively I’d vote for a wiccan transvestite midget for all I care.

LevStrauss on December 30, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Anyone who inspires such hatred amongst lefty nutjobs must be doing something right. Congratulations, Governor, and have a very happy New Year!

littleguy on December 30, 2008 at 12:03 AM

benny shakar on December 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM

aren’t you supposed to say “do you want fries with that?” as your daytime job “exit question” ?

joey24007 on December 30, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Noneya:

One gay to another: please shut your mouth. Or smash your keyboard. I’m a PUMA gay, and very much about gay rights, and your little petulant battles do nothing for any gay anywhere.
Anyone fighting with him, just disengage. There are lots of us gays out there that don’t care to start little battles just for kicks. No point in feeding an irrelevant fire.

Anygay (pun fully intended): good news to hear the baby is well. I read his name is Tripp. Kudos to Sarah being a Grandma, and I’m sure she’ll make a fine one at that. I know the Palins will give their full support to Bristol, Levi, and their son, and that’s what’s awesome about this:

The power of family. Blood is thicker than water. And right on the tails of the Catholic Feast of the Holy Family, too. Hardcore awesome.

lansing quaker on December 30, 2008 at 12:07 AM

some of Leviticus is valid and some of it not, and support certain laws according to it.

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM

OMG. You said a bibley word. Better get the soap.

excuse me, but it was the buffoon your party put in the White House for 8 years that had 9/11, Katrina and the financial collapse happen on his watch!

So I guess Obama has a crystal ball, anti-aircraft missiles in his pretty pecs, a weather machine, and a time machine that would have avoided all of these events? Are you really that silly, or are you grasping at straws?

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

hillbillyjim on December 30, 2008 at 12:10 AM

LevStrauss on December 30, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Spare me your Christopher Hitchens shtick. You bore me.

You still haven’t explained Reagan’s performance before the Tower Commission to me or explained Thatcher’s performance before the housewife. Should we throw them out of the conservative pantheon for those dismal performances?

And, again, I ask: when do we get to see your performance before a hostile interviewer who gets to edit cut and edit your answers for maximum image destruction?

ramrocks on December 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM

One gay to another: please shut your mouth. Or smash your keyboard. I’m a PUMA gay, and very much about gay rights, and your little petulant battles do nothing for any gay anywhere.
Anyone fighting with him, just disengage. There are lots of us gays out there that don’t care to start little battles just for kicks. No point in feeding an irrelevant fire.

lansing quaker on December 30, 2008 at 12:07 AM

Point taken. I will say I’m not anti-gay and, having a libertarian streak, I have mixed feelings about the whole gay marriage thing.

ddrintn on December 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM

ramrocks on December 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM

sarcasm:
and how about that moron Reagan’s performance in the first debate of the 84 election

the GOP should have dropped him fast!

joey24007 on December 30, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Point taken. I will say I’m not anti-gay and, having a libertarian streak, I have mixed feelings about the whole gay marriage thing.

ddrintn on December 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM

That’s cool, and understandable. I’d just rather talk about Sarah, Bristol, and little Tripp rather than have another battle over hommasexshallity and the HATE FILLED BIGOTS THAT HATE CIVIL RIGHTS! or what-have-you.

After a fairly bogus and dour 2008, it’s just nice — in my mind — to give a little smile toward news of a growing, happy family than go over tired circular social-war battles.

lansing quaker on December 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM

Allrighty then… so about that Palin girl’s baby…

katy on December 30, 2008 at 12:16 AM

White House for 8 years that had 9/11, Katrina and the financial collapse happen on his watch!

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM

Google is little man…Matthew 7:6, you don’t need a bible in your hand, it is at your fingertips.
So now Bush is responsible for 9/11, even though he was in office for how long? And he caused Katrina…and the financial collapse…and the sun spots, and global warming…and the scratch on your car…and the break up of your boyfriends…and the zit on your nose…oh, the government and the President is responsible for everything bad, everything…but you can’t look up one verse.
Bush is evvvvviillllll, oh my God…wait, you forgot, congress is responsible for spending…Democrats were responsible for New Orleans and the lack of preparedness, Clinton ignored Osama…darn facts keep getting in the way of you liberal talking points.
That is the problem with facts, without them you would have a good argument…well, go ahead ignore them, you always do.

right2bright on December 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM

You know…. dat’s one good lookin’ grandmah

Congratulations and good bless Palin family.

Kini on December 30, 2008 at 12:55 AM

Keep your love, just give us marriage equality…..

Noneya on December 29, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Uh…NO…It’s not ours to give to you…it was given to us by God and so your beef is with Him…sorry Do you intend to get on every thread here and complain about not having homo marriage? cuz it’s getting really old and you’re doing yourelf more harm than good… And why do you want a word that is basically a Judeo\Christian (used by most other religions)term for the union betwen a man and a woman if that is not what you want?

We’re not hypocrites…if you repented of your sins and tried to make it right we would support you too…someone else said this but I’ll repeat…Christians aren’t perfect…just forgiven…

CCRWM on December 30, 2008 at 1:06 AM

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