Video: The more you know about Caroline…
posted at 1:15 pm on December 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Silly fun from Cuffy Meigs. The audio’s no outlier, either: Try counting how many times “you know” appears in the transcript of her chat with NY1 on Friday. My favorite soundbite featured no fewer than three utterances in the span of 20 words.
There is a serious point here, actually. Slowly but surely, right down to her verbal tic, she’s proving she’s not ready for primetime as a national politician. (Cf. the left and SNL goofing on Palin’s tortured syntax.) With all the money and cronyism behind her, the only way she could blow this appointment is by making herself seem ridiculous — and darned if she’s not doing it. I’m amazed at how much skepticism, if not outright disdain, crept into the tone of the new NYT story on their interview with Caroline, culminating in Princess getting irritated and asking the reporters whether they’ve ever thought of writing for a women’s magazine. That was last night; this morning brings Michael Goodwin, Pulitzer-winner from the Daily News, finally acknowledging that the empress has no clothes. And not being real polite about it:
That truth is that Kennedy is not ready for the job and doesn’t deserve it. Somebody who loves her should tell her.
Her quest is becoming a cringe-inducing experience, as painful to watch as it must be to endure. Because she is the only survivor of that dreamy time nearly 50 years ago, she remains an iconic figure. But in the last few days, her mini-campaign has proved she has little to offer New Yorkers except her name…
Even the one job she had in public life has come into question. Apparently on the basis of a chance meeting with New York’s schools chancellor at a party on Martha’s Vineyard, she signed on as a part-time fund-raiser. How much she raised and how much she worked have been challenged, but no matter. The point is that this self-described advocate for the public schools did not send her children to them.
Enough.
Limousine liberals are a dime a dozen, and carpetbaggers are nothing new in New York. And with the social scene constantly churning out the old for the next new thing, there’s no reason middle-aged dilettantes can’t also try their hand at politics.
They just can’t start in the Senate.
Likelihood of her appointment 10 days ago, per InTrade: 85 percent. Today: 53.5, down four points from yesterday.
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I wonder how it feels to never have worked a day in your life. That multi-hundred million dollar trust fund greasing the skids. And then to know that she and her kith and kin know exactly how to run MY life and are willing to take time off from their busy lives to, well, run my life. It gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling, deep in my bowles.
JonRoss on December 28, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Quick debate… Sarah v Carol. Check Vegas odds on that one.
RalphyBoy on December 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM
And I suppose her dental plan doesn’t cover orthodontia.
JonRoss on December 28, 2008 at 5:11 PM
+1
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Sarah vs. Caroline in what? I’d give Sarah the edge in about any competition with Caroline.
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Neither is Peggy Noonan for that matter.
It’s clear there are conservatives and beltway cocktail circuit conservatives (in the latter context, I use the term conservative loosely).
If you’re not apart of the blue blood beltway crowd, then you’re just some country bumpkin.
This is one of the root reasons why the conservative party is having such problems with it’s base. When presented with a choice of Sarah Palin, who’s not part of the elitist club, the base rallied around McCain. McCain with his blue blood morals was drowning in apathy.
It’s clear Palin frightened both the liberals and the blue bloods, because Palin is what they are not.
Kini on December 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM
The media is certainly turning on her. Why would the AP used these particular two minutes to post unless to embarrass her? I’m sure the interview was a whole lot longer than two minutes, you know?
terryannonline on December 28, 2008 at 5:16 PM
You know what they say about younger generations being better educated than previous ones.
So, you know, Caroline has got to, you know, be a lot, you know, smarter than her, um, you know, dad and uncles.
Helloyawl on December 28, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Hey – did anyone notice how she keep’s saying “you know”?
Without a doubt, the best conclusion to a post. Evah.
darkpixel on December 28, 2008 at 5:20 PM
My father a phrase to describe someone like her, “Dim Bulb”.
Tommy_G on December 28, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Boxer, Feinstein, Susan Collins….some of the most ugly women in America. Kennedy will fit right in.
angryed on December 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Caroline really thinks I know a lot of stuff, but she still makes me sick.
LevStrauss on December 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Just yesterday I was reading the diary entry of an upper class Tory, who recorded in 1977 a conversation he had with a fellow Tory who commiserated with him about Margaret Thatcher, who was the Tory leader of the Opposition at the time. They complained that she was making the Tories “an extreme right wing party.” They impotently plotted how they could get rid of her, but were forced to admit that a change of leadership was impossible. His companion contemptuously asked, “Well, what are we going to do after she gets in [as Prime Minister] if she gets in?!” He replied, with equal condescension, “all we can do is to see she is surrounded by adequate advisors.” He went on to write, “We both agreed that Margaret [is] an extremely nice person, but I said that I had never had much confidence in her judgment and my fears had been realised….Margaret is extremely good at walkabout and meeting the public, but [is] politically unaware.”
Basically, that Tory toff gave the same sort of contemptuous assessment of Margaret Thatcher that many American “conservatives” gave of Palin. According to him, Thatcher was too “right wing” and not bright enough for the job. She was good at campaigning and working the rope lines and talking to ordinary people, but she was “politically unaware” and had questionable judgment.
Margaret Thatcher eventually led her party to a record breaking three general election victories (hadn’t been done since 1832), the first in 1979 was after she gave a successful motion of No Confidence (a rare occurrence that has happened only three times in the 20th century). She revolutionized Great Britain and is regarded as the greatest Prime Minister of the post-war era. She saved the UK from its descent into a socialist third world country. She was so successful as the leader of the Conservative Party that the old socialist Labour Party she so vehemently opposed is dead forever, and the new Labour Party of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown is regarded as Thaterchism-lite. Even her enemies co-opted her beliefs.
Not bad for “an extreme right wing” lady who was “politically unaware.”
Thatcher won by promoting what was commonly referred to as “populist Thatcherite policies.” She did, after all, coin the phrase “Popular Capitalism.” She spoke of “my people” — meaning the middle class, or “middle England” as they came to be known. At her core, she was always the grocer’s daughter who grew up “over the shop” and earned a scholarship to study at university. She was a self-made woman and proud of it. On the day she became Prime Minister, she was asked to comment on her father who was her “political mentor.” She said:
Those who know her think Palin has quite a bit in common with the Iron Lady. The O’Sullivan article inspired me to go back and relisten to the Iron Lady’s old speeches, debates, and interviews. The similarities are striking. I’m going to try an assemble a video of comparison clips.
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Don’t forget Nancy “Bela” Pelosi
Kini on December 28, 2008 at 5:26 PM
+100 and 1 – Bravo!
Kini on December 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
**Blushes**
sheebe on December 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Conservatism is the new black. And the ones you’re talking about are called “tokens.”
logis on December 28, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Marilyn Monroe was unavailable for comment, ya know
Wade on December 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM
The “you knows” aside, that was the most rambling, vapid, incoherent, in search of a cogent thought monologue I have heard since the last time Obambi went off the teleprompter. Did anybody actually follow anything she said? Did anybody get a whisper of an objective to all of those words. It just seemed like she was stringing a bunch of words and phrases together, glueing them up with some “you knows” and not really trying to generate any kind of coherent comment.
/but maybe that was just me. You know how us right wingers don’t understand nuance
AZfederalist on December 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
You can’t be serious. Trying to equate Bobby Kennedy to Obama is like trying to mix oil and water.
kanda on December 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
True (and I ditto Kini’s inclusion of Pelosi to the above list) but I do feel compelled to comment against the double standard implied here since Al Franken’s close to being final win in MN doesn’t spawn comments about the fact that my dog’s shaved rear end is more attractive than the incoming junior Senator. Ugly is skin deep but all that political power makes even the homliest politician “sexy.”
highhopes on December 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Here’s what she was saying minus the “you knows”:
“I love New York, and, like, I know everyone is, like, having a rough time right now. And, like, people are, um, out of work, and, like, the economy is really bad. I’ll work, like, really hard for them if, like, I get the job.”
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
ramrocks,
Thanks for that translation. I sure wasn’t getting it. :-)
AZfederalist on December 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM
CamelotSpamelot
fogw on December 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
You know, I miss You know Sarah You know Palin and the You know tough interviews she got You know from Gibson You know and Couric You know
RobCon on December 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I love the part where she talks about how our institutions are “less hierarchical than they used to be.” Then what the hell are you doing even thinking you can submit your name for this Senate seat?
And then she uses her motherhood as a qualification. Jeeze, if only Governor Palin knew that was a valid qualification! She has five of ‘em and no au pair.
This lady is an embarrassment. And lest anyone still be deceived by her family pedigree, they might want to read up on her father’s career in the Senate. He spent most of his time in the hospital nearly on death’s door. He spent the rest of his time chasing tail and avoiding taking a position on Senator McCarthy’s hearings.
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM
To be “Palined” would require that she be qualified for the job in the first place, so the media could ignore those qualifications in favor of taking at face value any scurrilous rumor they could dig up about her and her family.
irishspy on December 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Um…. yeah. Both are/were empty suits living on persona rather than accomplishment, vision, or fitness for office. Are you offended that I’m attacking a Kennedy?
The reality is that RFK was the Obama of his generation. I’d gladly take RFK over Obama in 2008 but that doesn’t mean he was a good politician it just means that the standards have been lowered. RFK was the son of a leader in the Irish mafia. Obama is an integral part of the Chicago mafia and is as corrupt as any of the the other filthy bastards that come out of that political machine. It’s like the nation elected Mayor Daley and the nation is reduced to being extended suburbs of Chicago. Mark my prediction that Obama will go down in history as having one of the most corrupt administrations ever and I include Grant, Hayes, and Clinton in that assessment.
Like Teddy in the beginning, RFK wasn’t so much campaigning on his own vision about issues like Vietnam so much as he traded off the public adoration of JFK. When it comes to cold analysis of JFK’s time in office he comes off a complete failure. Bay of Pigs. Nazi-like tactics in the South in the name of “civil rights.” Waning public confidence despite some success with the Cuban missile crisis……People forget that JFK was in Dallas in November 1963 to attempt to bring his base back into the fold because he was in real danger of not even being nominated by the party in 1964. LBJ was along for the trip because JFK had lost the political capital to do it alone.
In 1968, RFK would have likely gotten the nomination to perpetuate the failed policies of his slain brother but that doesn’t mean they were the right policies. JFK was the charismatic one. Both RFK and Obama share a decided inability to speak without prepared remarks. My guess is that once all the initial media zeal of electing “the black one” plays out that the filthy bastard about to take office will rarely appear in public and then only with a teleprompter in tow.
highhopes on December 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Dude, they don’t have to make stuff up about the Kennedys. Their family history is a weird cross between a trashy tabloid (Old Joe Kennedy nailing Gloria Swanson in front of a 10 year old JFK) and a gothic horror (lobotomizing a daughter and locking her away in some institution for the rest of her life).
They give the Irish a bad name.
ramrocks on December 28, 2008 at 6:04 PM
See, this is what I’ve been thinking all along – they (Democrats) sincerely WANT a hand-puppet. They’re thinking that her name gives her some sort of pseudo-credibility, but her ignorance of any and all things not related to upper crust society gives THEM a blank slate to fill up with their liberal agenda. A no-brainer, literally.
uncivilized on December 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Here’s an interesting question to ponder. Were not it for Sarah Palin and the fact that, somehow, it was decided that a sitting governor was deemed unqualified for the Vice Presidency two months ago would we even be having this discussion?
After all, Hillary Clinton simply bought the seat in 2000 on the basis of Presidential pardons to Puerto Rican terrorists, Jewish tax cheats, and others able to get benefit from voting for a woman who had never held elective office. The corruption in that deal makes a seasoned filthy Chicago insider like Blago appear a bantamweight by comparison.
Hillary Clinton was just as unqualified as Caroline Kennedy so, obviously, the difference is the ability to deliver Presidential pardons or other forms of quid pro quo to the decision makers. Whenever Patterson makes the appointment the first question should be who got what for that endorsement.
highhopes on December 28, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Pssssst…I don’t think they always go to the trouble of marrying…
uncivilized on December 28, 2008 at 6:14 PM
I’m surprised she didn’t say “you know, like”. That would’ve been double indemnity.
Coronagold on December 28, 2008 at 6:27 PM
ramrocks: Every point that you made re the contrast of Sarah Palin with Caroline Kennedy is a gem, particularly the one at 3:38 PM and the O’Sullivan reference.
Governor Palin is hardly inarticulate. She is most persuasive in topics about which she has experience. Unfortunately for her (and us), Palin was tackled with gotcha questions, and her complete responses ended up on the editing-room floor.
This Caroline Kennedy interview, as well as the few others that she has deigned to grant, is pathetic. Her responses to essentially softball questions are vacuous. She says nothing, and she says it like an airheaded adolescent.
CK claims to have worked to promote public schools in NY. Her actual committee and foundation work is sketchy at best, re her attendance and contribution to those organizations. She is opposed to school vouchers, and she sent her own children to private schools. Yet, she claims to want to refine the NCLB that Uncle Teddy had his pudgy fingers all over.
CK is a limousine liberal who disdains those who do not come from her privileged world. Like most in that class of self-designated elites, she presumes to know what is best for the “little people”.
As far as Peggy Noonan is concerned, IIRC (as Noonan described herself in a column once) she grew up in an Irish Catholic Democrat household. She would have been a Kennedy booster in her younger years as a matter of conditioning. It’s not likely that Noonan would look too deeply beyond CK’s education credentials, even if they were the product of a legacy enrollment.
Truly, I taught public high school students who expressed themselves with more depth and elan than any “pearls” that I have heard from Caroline Kennedy’s lips.
onlineanalyst on December 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Working on the “how many half-brothers and sisters does she have?” angle?
Count to 10 on December 28, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Patterson and Caroline: The blind leading the tone deaf. Besides, who needs the old Camelot, when the choco-latte version is weeks away?
EMD on December 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM
This depends on what you mean by “in public.” PEBO has been big on the pre-recorded message, and I have a suspicion that this will be a continuing theme.
(Actually, it occurs to me that Bush might have helped himself considerably with a few strategically placed pre-recorded messages)
Count to 10 on December 28, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Heh, the other claim of fitness for office that CK makes is that she served on the Obama’s VP selection committee. Look what that effort wrought: Joe Biden. Really impressive.
jaibones: Like you, I am annoyed by Obama’s “Look” verbal tic when he wants to make a point. (I am aware of it because this tic is one of my own. It is one of a cluster of markers that point to a visual learner. This primary learning mode may explain why Obama is comfortable only when he has a teleprompter. What has been praised about Obama as being a thoughtful listener may possibly be an indicator that he takes longer to process information aurally. Unprompted questions throw him out of his comfort zone of interaction.)
onlineanalyst on December 28, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Sorry, I couldn’t stop myself.
hillbillyjim on December 28, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Count to 10: Your point also confirms what I suggested about PEBHO’s visual learning dependence.
Obama will be on the tube with frequency, but I doubt if we see many press conferences. Questioners will be few and selected.
onlineanalyst on December 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM
You know, that gave me a headache. Why does she even want this seat, you know? She’s worth at least a hundred million, you know? You know, I’d be on a beach somewhere with a drink in my hand laughing at all you working stiffs. You know?
Have you ever read this one?
meltenn on December 28, 2008 at 7:06 PM
“Our society is, you know, less hierarchical than it used, you know, to be. And, you know, I should know about such things, you know, being born at the top of the Democratic maggot heap, you know. Also, I can use big, meaningless, academic buzzwords, you know, as if I was properly educated, you know.”
Kalapana on December 28, 2008 at 7:09 PM
See how quick that was…
RalphyBoy on December 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM
That was quick.
hillbillyjim on December 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Did you ever hear Bobby Kennedy speak in public? If not here is his speech when MLK was killed. Note he used no prepared remarks. It was a speech from the heart like so many of his passionate speeches were. I heard him speak live many times. You should view this as typical of his speeches if you have never seen it.
kanda on December 28, 2008 at 7:36 PM
I’m sorry. Caroline can’t hold a candle to her Uncle Ted when it comes to incompetence in extemporaneous speaking. His “ahhhs” are exponentially more prevalent in his efforts to communicate than her “you knows“. The only reason that we Bostonians don’t notice it as much is that we have as a benchmark Mayor Thomas “Mumbles” Menino. I apologize on behalf of all citizens of Massachusetts for foisting all of the above upon the Nation.
Having said that, I hope that Caroline does get her guilded Senate seat so she can pretend she did the same thing as her Dad, her Uncle, so on and so forth. I advocate a complete sweep of the American political landscape by the preening, condescending know-it-all’s of the liberal establishment. It seems that America needs a good old fashioned bitch-slap to realize that liberalism is inherently evil and is a cancer upon our body politic. Let’s help them attain their goal in order to hasten their destruction. I no longer view the political landscape as the give and take of two differing parties who have the best interests of the nation at heart at their core.
Palin ‘12 !
turfmann on December 28, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Not fit for the Senate, she males a mockery of our political system. Possibly fit for duty in Minnesota but nowhere else.
FireBlogger on December 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I’d give Caroline the edge in a nepotism competition.
Sir Corky on December 28, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Sorry this is the actual video of Bobby Kennedy’s MLK speech as it happened.
kanda on December 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM
“You-know”-a-lot
Entelechy on December 28, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Her only real problem is that she’s ugly.
On every other point, she exceeds the incumbent President by a long-shot.
Well, other than his obvious deep-rooted corruption.
Her’s isn’t that obvious.
Yet
notagool on December 28, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Plus, I hate to be shallow, but the way she talks just bugs me! She doesn’t open her mouth and enunciate. Something about the way her teeth hang out…I don’t know. It just bugs me.
PattyJ on December 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM
You know…………..
………… do you really think the political whores of the Democratic machine of the East will leave anything to chance?
She will get it…………….. and her staff will be those currently in place in Uncle Ted’s administration, along with all the graft, greed, corruption and love for illegal aliens.
“Pay to Play” people………. “Pay to Play”………. unless you don’t have any money, and only a watered down vote.
Seven Percent Solution on December 28, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Surely a state as heavily populated as NY must have someone better suited for this office than Caroline. If she were to get this appointment, would she get respect in the Senate because of her uncle? Certainly judged on her own merit there is nothing,absolutely nothing, to recommend her. And, I have heard little about Ted. Does anyone have any information?
jeanie on December 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I still don’t get why the Baby Boomer generation has such a hard on for JFK (maybe you just had to be there). If it wasn’t for the fact that he got his head blown off by the mafia the two great achievements that his administration is credited with (the civil rights movement and the Moon landings) may never have been pushed through and seen to completion. In fact there was every likely hood that his presidency would have ended in disgrace if his affair with Marilyn Monroe had gone public before the end of his term.
Whilst I believe that Kennedy was a good man and should be honoured for his service to his country, especially during WWII, I just don’t see what was so great about him. Then again I don’t understand whats so great about Obama ether, especially when you consider that fact that the only thing of note that he has done so far was to get elected.
Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I’d be more excited if it were SNL or some mainstream outlet wasting Caroline here… not some obscure blog. It’s just another one of those “what liberal media?” moments. Palin get’s destroyed for saying “you betcha” (even though I believe that was Obama’s exact response when asked if he was fighting hard in support of Blago a few years back), but Caroline spends more time saying “you know”, than she does even the normal empty nonsense, and only a few on the internet bat an eye.
RightWinged on December 28, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Yep you had to be there when the president JFK was assinated. You had to be there living under the threat of the bomb every day. You had to be there when the Berlin wall went UP. You had to be there when Castro took over Cuba. You had to be there when the Soviets tried to put nukes in Cuba. You had to be there when Nikita Khruschev banged his shoe on the UN podium and told the Americans “we will bury you”.
They were interesting times for sure but as you said you had to be there. You missed the first TV and HiFi. You missed Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Superman, Rocket Man, Elvis going into the Army and the Lone Ranger if you werent there.
kanda on December 28, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Those who thought that she would be the anti-Palin down the road must be dissapointed. She has no energy, charisma, charm, talent, determination or quick thinking.
V15J on December 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Submitted for QoD!
Entelechy on December 28, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Camelot….it is….you know…a silly place.
wildweasel on December 28, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Hillary, you know, actually had something called a brain, you know… and used it, you know, to further her career, you know. Which is more, you know, than I can say for Caroline Kennedy, you know.
Illinidiva on December 28, 2008 at 8:42 PM
The poster child for rescinding the 17th Amendment.
Jonn Lilyea on December 28, 2008 at 8:44 PM
I’d like to know what Andrea Mitchell’s dinner conversations with her hubby are like. Considering that Alan Greenspan’s pronouncements are above the heads of people of average intellect, I’m not sure how exactly he asks her to pass the butter.
Illinidiva on December 28, 2008 at 8:46 PM
It’s hard to say what JFK’s legacy might have been had he been President longer but it’s the assassination that has built the mystique around him. As the parent of ‘baby boomers’, I can assure you that much was made of this event and it has become engraved on the minds of the children old enough to recall the days, weeks and months(ultimately years) of media obsession with it. This is the age group who even now ask each other “Where were you when Kennedy was assassinated?” It was very public, happening on TV, before ones eyes, so everyone felt a part of it. They were there, so to speak. A terrible event. It’s hard to imagine how it must have affected Caroline and her brother, young as they were. But, it does not qualify Caroline for the NY Senate seat. Her life has not been one of public service and she does not merit this appointment merely on the basis of this connection.
jeanie on December 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM
I wasn’t around when the Soviet Union was a threat, but I do remember 9/11 and believe that being indiscriminately killed by a bunch of religious psychos was even scarier than anything posed by the Soviets.
Illinidiva on December 28, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Forget about this skank. I’m sick and tired of ALL the “family” politics that has taken place over the last 50 years. I never want to hear the names Kennedy, Clinton, or Bush in my lifetime.
Here’s to dreaming, and the dreams are smashed by nepotistic bullshyte every time.
I don’t understand how the Gov of Illinois can be bashed for selling the senate seat, then the same thing happens only using different payment plans for Hillary’s seat. This is crap and it needs to stop.
Spiritk9 on December 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM
she looks like John ‘Effing” Kerry in drag, and talk about manhands….oy!
mrfixit on December 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Women loved Kennedy and women love Obama.
sonnyspats1 on December 28, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Actually, RFK was quite a good impromptu speaker and would have likely been a better president than his brother. It’s like Jeb would have likely been a better President than Dubya.
Illinidiva on December 28, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Sorry but this skank looks like Alice Cooper sans make up-billion dollar babies! Yea baby!
GlocknRoll on December 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM
No. JFK had it when he was alive. My father was put in a room with Senator JFK and McArthur when he was a kid and he went to West Point because of that meeting. He told me that they were the two people in America that you could not say no to. JFK’s mystique was very much there when he was alive and before he was President.
Caroline is merely his daughter and doesn’t have the right stuff to be a frontline politician despite her good works. This is America not Pakistan. I’m not surprised that the press is smacking her around a bit. We had the President we thought would be a fun guy to have a beer with. It was a disaster. The public were turned off by Palin’s lack of any depth. We need people who can front up when asked questions by the press and make sense. We need people who inspire us as Americans. I can’t see Caroline surviving more than one term if she is appointed and hope she isn’t appointed at all.
lexhamfox on December 28, 2008 at 9:15 PM
You had better make that three paper bags. One for her, one for you in case hers comes off, and one for your dog in case both hers and yours come off so your dog doesn’t recognize you and lose all respect for you.
Sorry, I couldn’t stop myself.
MB4 on December 28, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I wish some rational person was in the room with JFK when he decided, while flying high as a kite on drugs, to play chicken with the commies and potentially blow civilization off the map. I wish that rational person had silenced JFK and saved Harvey the trouble. He was out of his mind, especially when one considers the Jupiters we had in Turkey, drawing a proverbial line in the ocean with the nutcase in the Kremlin. Apparently the Kremlin had a rational person that stopped the beginning of the end of the world as we knew it. Screw JFK……and I didn’t even mention Vietnam or the Bay of Pigs.
David in ATL on December 28, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Hey what can I say I grew up in the 80’s. During the time of Regan, Thatcher and Gorbachev. I saw the Berlin wall come down and the USSR implode in on itself under the weight of its own failed political ideology thus ending the cold war. I still remember the day the space shuttle Challenger exploded on take off, the stock market crash of 87 and the Chernobyl disaster.
I remember when VCR’s first came out and the first CD players. The shows I remember watching as a kid were cartoons like Transformers and GI JOE. Michal Jackson was actually cool back then and not the sad creepy looser he is now and I still have that gay “we are the world” song stuck in my head.
It was an interesting time to live through as well but yet my focus is on the future not the past. I have no yearning for a return of the 80’s and whilst I believe Regan was a great President I feel no need to sanctify my memory of his presidency like some on the left do with JFK.
Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM
CK gives princesses a bad name. My oldest cat has asked to have her name changed from Princess to Mrs. Thatcher.
PA Cat on December 28, 2008 at 9:43 PM
This was written by a sixteen year old lad in 1722.
As a society we have lost the will to teach our children this well.
Sad :(
TheSitRep on December 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM
The media knows they sold their journalistic souls for Barry Soetoro, so beating the h*ll out of Caroline is their way to punish themselves.
It ain’t going to work lamestream media….you all died on November 4, 2008.
R.I.H.
Rest in H*ll
ex-Democrat on December 28, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Athough her “Ya know” factor is impressive, her “Um…” quotient is nothing to be sneezed at.
eeyore on December 28, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Heh…and she’s an Ivy Leaguer to boot; one of the left’s cheap shots against Palin was that Palin’s not quite as, uh, you know, educated. So much for yet another leftist trope.
ddrintn on December 28, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I know!
Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM
You know, it’s not like what you know, what your country can do for you. Like, it’s what, you know, like what you can do for your country man.
TheSitRep on December 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I can hear the great and powerful Oz saying to Sarah Palin… “She just has something you haven’t got. Money. Here. Here’s a check for 400 million dollars. Now you’re just as good as she is.”
Mojave Mark on December 28, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I was a senior engineering student when the Cuban Missile Crisis flashed on the T.V. screen in the EE study room. We were all getting ready for a really bad test the next day.
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We all had draft cards that were starting to get red hot in our wallets. It looked like we would all be called to report for U.S. Army service the next day–if there were anything left standing to report to! Our next few years would probably be fighting in Cuba and other places.
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Some of the students suggested forgetting about preparing for the bad exam–we should go down to the local pizza parlor and down a lot of beer–and a few pizzas. Cooler heads pointed out that the war might not occur–better to keep studying.
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We continued studying–the right decision–I got a passing C on the exam. I wondered if I should have gone for the beer instead–who knew what was coming next?
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Nikita Kruschev had sized up John Kennedy as a weak clown who would not defend the U.S.A. He was wrong–but a bad first impression almost brought on WW3.
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President Elect Obama has already been evaluated by our country’s enemies and has been given the WEAK CLOWN label already. Deja vu all over again (like Yogi said) is coming soon to the new U.S.S.A!
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As far as “sweet Caroline”–I think she will be able to buy her way into the Senate via New York–Hillary Clinton did. Enough of this “Camelot” and “Kennedy Mystique” C**P already–it didn’t serve us very well in the early 1960’s. NO MAS!
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John Bibb
rocketman on December 28, 2008 at 10:16 PM
OA,
The Biden point is a great one; I did not know that. Biden received something like 20,000 total votes in two Presidential campaigns … combined. Democrats have zero use for this weed-headed putz; Republicans hold him, somehow, in lower esteem.
As for the learning system of Obambi, I got nothin’. If you start your sentences with “Look”, do you also plug in three or four “Uuuuhhhhh”s in each sentence. I think not.
You have my vote for President.
Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I’ve been reading all this and recalling much of the Kennedy brother’s years that I had not thought about for a long time. Bobby Kennedy always made me uneasy. He made a political name for himself breaking up the old ATT, not because (as he said)it was a monopoly(though to some degree it was)but because he needed an issue to put himself before the public as a crusader for the ‘public good’. There was talk at the time that his real motive was to appease the Teamster’s union who had formed their own company and were unable to compete because ATT was preventing them. Never did learn the truth and never ever trusted Bobby Kennedy. Certainly there was something really wrong with many of his dealings. Quite frankly, though I am not condoning his assassination, I am glad he never became President.
jeanie on December 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Maybe that’s how she’s working this appointment…
Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Priceless snark, imported from Powerline (no offense intended to AP and Ed).
Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 10:36 PM
After all is said and done, I hope fervently that Princess Caroline is chosen. I really, really do.
ddrintn on December 28, 2008 at 10:36 PM
The inlaws live about 15 minutes from Niagara Falls. I bought the best Sarah Palin / Rosie the Riveter “She Can Do It!” tee shirt. The woman said the Australians were buying them like crazy and that, personally, she thought the campaign misused SP and she has a future.
Caroline Kennedy only, you know, Palinized herself, except she actually Jackied herself by refusing interviews and just acting like a frigid snob.
chunderroad on December 28, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Is there any truth to the rumor that the Kennedys passed half a billion through Figi to avoid estate taxes some years (decades) back? Or was it just trusts? If they are all this challenged, I don’t blame them.
IlikedAUH2O on December 28, 2008 at 10:39 PM
By the way, benny shakar, Noneya, et. al. : I really mean that, unlike the “Oh, the Democrats would looooove to see Sarah run for president” guff. We don’t have to caricature this particularly airheaded Kennedy. Talk about comedy gold.
ddrintn on December 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM
The difference is that Kennedy had already put his ass on the line in WWII and proved his mettle to himself and knew what he was capable of. Where as Obama really is a WEAK CLOWN and we have know way of knowing what he will do if and when the shit hits the fan.
Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM
That’s a lot of flatulence there Mr Highhopes. I realize that you never saw RFK make Carlos Marcello or any other Mafia boss sweat like a pig under questioning. RFK had balls; he actually had Carlos Marcello (who was fighting a deportation order) grabbed by the FBI and flown to Guatemala and literally dumped in the jungle.
Pelayo on December 28, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I hope that she does as well. If she wins and Obama tanks, then she’ll be easy pickings for Rudy. If not, then she’ll provide more comedy gold than Carolyn Maloney.
P.S. The Republicans will probably already win the Messiah’s old Senate seat due to Blago’s venture into capitalism. Why not give them the NY senate seat as well?
Illinidiva on December 28, 2008 at 11:03 PM
We’d all be drunk as skunks…
Let’s play. :)
About the fat required for thinking: I must be Einstein.
baldilocks on December 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM
So the old hate between the Irish mob and the Italian mob came to fruition (and law) under RFK. Big whoop … The Kennedy’s are a plague on our country.
progressoverpeace on December 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM
I guess when you’re a Kennedy, you don’t need to take care of your looking or your brains. /meow
baldilocks on December 28, 2008 at 11:12 PM
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