Backfire for Hamas

posted at 9:37 am on December 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

If Hamas expected to find more popularity among the Palestinians by provoking another war with Israel, they may have miscalculated.  Despite initial protestations over Israel’s attack on all Hamas security offices, Arabs don’t appear terribly interested in Hamas’ problems.  Even the Palestinians blame Hamas for the outbreak of hostilities:

Hamas could have prevented the “massacre” in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said Sunday in Cairo.

“We spoke to them and told them ‘Please, we ask you not to end the cease-fire. Let it continue,’” Abbas said during a joint press conference with Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit. “We want to protect the Gaza Strip. We don’t want it to be destroyed.”

One of the few sympathetic voices in the initial attack came from Egypt, which condemned Israel’s actions in Gaza and opened its borders to assist the wounded.  That didn’t work out as planned, and Egypt sharply criticized Hamas in the same forum:

Aboul Gheit also attacked Hamas, saying the group had prevented people wounded in the Israeli offensive from passing into Egypt to receive medical attention.

“We are waiting for the wounded Palestinians to reach Egypt. They aren’t being allowed to go through,” he said.

Asked who was to blame for the dire situation in Gaza, the foreign minister replied: “Ask the party that controls Gaza.”

Most tellingly, Egypt has a solution to the conflict — and it’s not directed at Israel:

He added that the meeting of Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo Wednesday should call on Hamas to extend the truce.

Granted, Abbas — also known as Abu Mazen, one of the people suspected to be part of the Black September plot that killed the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972 — has his own reasons for blaming Hamas.  He wants an uprising to end their rule in Gaza and return Fatah to power so that he can unite Gaza and the West Bank under his somewhat more moderate rule.  Undermining Hamas works to his benefit, but until now he hasn’t publicly sided with Israel during actual military conflict.

Egypt’s shift shows more clearly the miscalculation by Hamas.  The Arab nations had successfully pressured Israel into lifting parts of its embargo against Gaza while the truce remained in place, in name only for the most part.  Their publicity stunt in ending the truce and increasing the rocket attacks threw away what success they’ve had in pushing Israel back.  They may have reached the same conclusion I did in yesterday’s post — that Hamas just wants a war of annihilation, and nothing else.  They may be prepared to let them have it.  They’re certainly handing Hamas the blame for this war, and in public, which is a significant change in attitude for Egypt.

Update: A couple of thoughts here, based somewhat on my friend Scott Johnson’s excellent post this morning at Power Line.  Normally, Israeli-Palestinian conflict gets seen as a venue for the general Arab/Israeli power struggle in the region, but things are changing.  The Sunni Arab nations see less of a threat from Israel than from Iran, the Persian Shi’ite nation bent on establishing regional hegemony.  Hamas gets its funding and direction from Tehran, in part through its Syrian ally.  Egypt has no desire to see Iran establish a satellite nation on its border and on the Mediterranean, and the Saudis won’t much care for it either.  Hamas’ war gave the Sunni moderates an opportunity to isolate their leadership among Arab nations, enough of an opportunity to do it publicly.

This could be more about the layers of ethnicity (Arab vs Persian) and sectarianism (Shi’ite vs Sunni) than the Israelis.  Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia may have finally figured out that Hezbollah and Hamas, the two main proxy armies of Iran, constitute an existential threat to their regimes.  Abbas would be the logical beneficiary of that concern.  Expect to hear very little direct criticism of Israel as long as they limit their targets to Hamas facilities in this operation.  The Israelis are acting on behalf of their own security, and they know it.

Update II: Carl in Jerusalem thinks Scott and I are being too optimistic.  He also notes that Hassan Nasrallah, leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon, has threatened to open a second front.  That would tend to harden the Arab nations against Iran, not weaken their resolve.  They won’t appreciate a big Iranian power play in their back yard.  If Nasrallah follows through on his threat — which I doubt — it will also spell a well-deserved end to the UN’s feckless international “peacekeeping” force in the sub-Litani region of Lebanon.


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Be that as it may, but UN condemnation of “Israeli aggressors” is no doubt imminent.

jgapinoy on December 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Iran has been fueling and supporting Hamas, this could really get ugly.
Hamas also has sleeper cells in the US.

Firebird on December 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Well apparently Hamas was able to fully re-arm and had no more need of the “hudna” so they called off the ceasefire that really never was. Seems to me that Israel is being slowly girdled with Iranian proxies in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, etc. Israel needs to finish this job or they will be strangled. They must decisively win and put Hamas out of business.

KickandSwimMom on December 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Even the Palestinians blame Hamas for the outbreak of hostilities:

Don’t worry, the EU and UN will place the blame back on Israel where it belongs.

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Putting on my tin foil hat, I have to wonder if Russia has played any part in stirring things up to give cover for their expected invasion of Ukraine.

OldEnglish on December 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM

STill, it’s interesting that Hamas has lost the support of many Palestinians over this. That is a positive development.

jeanie on December 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM

The attacks also preceded the Iranian relief ship reported earlier to be on its way to Gaza.

I wonder if there is anything in that?

Lonetown on December 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM

OldEnglish on December 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Could be, this might also help raise the price of oil.

Firebird on December 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM

Well somebody should tell CNN because apparently, Israeli children who die by Hamas rockets are not as worthy as Palistinian children. Israeli children die and that is not news worthy. Palistinian children are injured and that is front page news.

ronsfi on December 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM

“He added that the meeting of Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo Wednesday should call on Hamas to extend the truce.”

Hamas should take the offer.

They define truce as 20 rockets a week instead of 80.

artist on December 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM

The world knows that Iran is behind the evil that exists in this area of the world; the midget man running Iran has not tried to hide this fact from anybody over the past few years. Israel must take decisive measures against Iran while they have the chance to do so. Hamas is a front group for Iran, nothing more.

May God be with you Israel as you fight for the future of your people.

Keemo on December 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM

I think it is time for Israel to tell its critics to pound sand and continue to approach this “The Chicago Way.”

They need to maintain constant air surveilance and let the civilian population of
Gaza know that if they see a rocket launch from anywhere near them, they have about two minutes to get the hell out of the area before it’s leveled.

Stephen Macklin on December 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Kill `em all and let the moon goddess “allah” sort them out.

wildcat84 on December 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Go IDF! Into Gaza and form a larger buffer area from rocket attacks.

Hummer53 on December 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM

ronsfi on December 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM

Someone should tell CNN a lot of things.

NickTx on December 28, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Has Barry The First weighed in on this yet? Why hasn’t he stopped this by a word from his mighty lips or a wave of his hand?

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Israel needs to finish this fiasco once and for all. In 1948 when I was a kid growing up in a small Nebraska town I can still remember just before I left for my walk to school, the radio was reporting the “Arab, Israeli war”. Perhaps it will never end.

rplat on December 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Maybe Dirty Barry can give his speech in Gaza?

Firebird on December 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Has Barry The First weighed in on this yet? Why hasn’t he stopped this by a word from his mighty lips or a wave of his hand?

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM

His tool Axelrod came out this morning and said that he would not have a statement because “we only have one president” Seems that when he can make political hay we have two. But when he needs to come down on one side or the other and faces political heat for that “we only have one presdident”

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Israel needs to start a “1000:1″ policy.

They should tel those animals that for every rocket shot at Israel, 1000 rockets will be lobbed back.
For every Israeli killed 1000 Palestinians will be killed in return.

We are now going to cease fire and now you can decide your own fate. It is in your hands!

TheSitRep on December 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM

In other words, it is to his advantage to keep his big mouth shut.

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Has Barry The First weighed in on this yet? Why hasn’t he stopped this by a word from his mighty lips or a wave of his hand?

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM

He has not yet said anything of significance. CNN hasn’t sent him his talking points yet. When you favor the extermination of Israel you have to be careful how you parse your words.

JonRoss on December 28, 2008 at 10:22 AM

In other words, it is to his advantage to keep his big mouth shut.

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Yep, he better enjoy that while he can.

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM

In other words, it is to his advantage to keep his big mouth shut.

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM

No kj,
In other words he won’t take Israel’s side.

thomasaur on December 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Right now he won’t take any side, he doesn’t have to.

Clinton politics 101

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM

thomasaur on December 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Yeah. You’re right. But, he can’t say that. He can not afford to be that controversial. Hence, his move toward a Moderate stance on everything. Political expediency.

kingsjester on December 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Right now he won’t take any side, he doesn’t have to.

Clinton politics 101

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Aw gee you took the words right out of mouth. Can anyone recall when the Messiah has taken a firm position on anything ? Really.

JonRoss on December 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM

It is old news, but we all know how Clinton (and Christopher and Albright, and that “Republican” defense secretary whose name escapes me right now, etc) for eight friggen never responded to any attack on the U.S. anywhere in the world. Albright should have the words “No actionalble intelligence” tatooed accross her forhead and fat ass. Now with Mrs. Bill Clinton at the state department we will be open targets around the world once again.

JonRoss on December 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Hamas need to create more rock throwing jobs for it’s disaffected yutes. More rocks, more rockets, more martyrs!. I am so inspired by the hearts and minds efforts of Hamas and Mooj entities in general.

epluribusunum on December 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Still, I don’t think many average Arabs living in the Middle East have a firm idea of cause and effect.

alex342 on December 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM

They need to maintain constant air surveilance and let the civilian population of
Gaza know that if they see a rocket launch from anywhere near them, they have about two minutes to get the hell out of the area before it’s leveled.

Stephen Macklin on December 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM

My my, using the playbook of the SS as practiced against the Warsaw Ghetto will not win friends or influence enemies.

unclesmrgol on December 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Looks like those super accurate bombs work afterall.

tarpon on December 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM

We need extermely inaccurate bombs that will turn Gaza into thin dust, not accurate bombs that will let Fatah terrorists replace Hamas terrorists.

Aristotle on December 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM

unclesmrgol on December 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM

I would much prefer that they won the war. Friends can come later.

OldEnglish on December 28, 2008 at 10:52 AM

The IDF should show on international TV large bombs painted with CNN, MSNBC, CBS and every other Hamas enabling news network so people can see the conflict and the destruction that media dishonesty has helped cause.

Speakup on December 28, 2008 at 11:00 AM

The attacks also preceded the Iranian relief ship reported earlier to be on its way to Gaza.

I wonder if there is anything in that?

Lonetown on December 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM

You mean other than RPG’s and other similar goodies? I think we should keep that ship in mind, because, if the Powerline analysis linked above is correct, Israel could probably board it and sieze the contents–all while basking in the blessings of Egypt, the House of Saud, et al. Let the UN fulminate–it doesn’t have the same resonance when most of the Arab dictators aren’t listening. HA HA HA! See? Geopolitics trumps ideology any day.

smellthecoffee on December 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Will Hamass be coming to the Obama Administration for a bailout? Time will tell.

eaglewingz08 on December 28, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Hamas must be destroyed.

profitsbeard on December 28, 2008 at 11:23 AM

I hope the Israelis keep blowing Hamas off the face of the planet ’til Hamas is no more, to those 72 virgins each of those murderers of schoolchildren (both Israeli and Palestinian) thinks await him and sometimes her.

BTW–what does a female suicide bomber get in the Islamofascist concept of Heaven? Is there a fatwa on that?

Yeah, it’s going to be a hot time for every one of those killers-of-the-innocent, but not the kind a Christian like me believes in.

I may be wrong or I may be right. But one thing is for certain: death is eternal. And I hope Israeli jets dump it on Hamas by the ton.

Liam on December 28, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Liam-

BTW- what does a female suicide bomber get…?

72 dildos.

Each with the face of Mohammad on them.

profitsbeard on December 28, 2008 at 11:45 AM

My my, using the playbook of the SS as practiced against the Warsaw Ghetto will not win friends or influence enemies.

unclesmrgol

I don’t think winning friends and influencing enemies should be the goal. I think eliminating enemies is a more proper course. Hamas will never be a “friend” of Israel.

Stephen Macklin on December 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM

unclemrgol-

Comparing the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto with Islamic terrorsts in Gaza achieves you the Use-Me (YWSMI ~Year Winning Stretch of Metaphorical Illegitimacy ) Award for 2008.

profitsbeard on December 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Speakup on December 28, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Absolutely right on target!!!!!

Keemo on December 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Indians = Palestinians.

And what was that old saying?

Oh yeah. The only good Indian is a dead Indian.

BowHuntingTexas on December 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Putting on my tin foil hat, I have to wonder if Russia has played any part in stirring things up to give cover for their expected invasion of Ukraine.

OldEnglish on December 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Not so far-fetched. Any disturbance in the Middle East is also likely to push oil prices back up, thus keeping the economic wolves from the Russian Bear’s doorstep. The same applies in the case of Iran.

Put nothing past Putin, or the Mad Mullahs either.

Of course, when dealing with barbarians it is wise to remember that Western logic does not always apply.

hillbillyjim on December 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Here’s a public works project for you, president-elect Mistake Messiah:

Decontamination and rubble clean-up; then rebuilding Qom and Tehran.

hillbillyjim on December 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Contrary to your earlier headline, Hamas has not gotten the war that it asked for. It may have gotten the war that it wanted, but what it asked for was a war to make the rubble bounce, and after all the rubble has been bouncing for forty-eight hours or so, a step-by-step blanketing of the land with fuel-air explosives.

I’m not saying that this is what Hamas should get, but it’s what it has asked for, and it is certainly what it deserves.

njcommuter on December 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

muslims rioting begins in 5…4..3..

becki51758 on December 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Iran orders Muslims to defend Palestinians…
Russia asks Israel to end Gaza attacks…

From the top of the page @ Drudge.
OldEnglish and hillbillyjim,
I was thinking the same thing this am, but was waiting to see something in writing. These two countries have national budgets that were estimated with oil prices being no lower than 80 dollars per barrel. Watch these developments closely.

thomasaur on December 28, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Is it possible that all of this is Iran trying to keep Israel tied down until Obama is sworn in?

Count to 10 on December 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM

Liam-

BTW- what does a female suicide bomber get…?

72 dildos.

Each with the face of Mohammad on them.

profitsbeard on December 28, 2008 at 11:45 AM

~dies laughing!~

72 kudos!

Liam on December 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM

I think no matter what happens Iran wins. A 2nd front is their best move.

Short explaination. Israel can’t attack Iran while fighting in Gaza and or Lebanon.

Long explaination and roundup here.

As for the Indians=Palestinians not quite right.

Palestinians = Daleks, Cybermen & Sontarians
Israel=The 10th Doctor

Explaination here.

petertheslow on December 28, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Most tellingly, Egypt has a solution to the conflict — and it’s not directed at Israel:

He added that the meeting of Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo Wednesday should call on Hamas to extend the truce.

There should only be one end to this conflict acceptable to Israel. Unconditional Surrender by Hamas.

redshirt on December 28, 2008 at 1:23 PM

The 9/11 attacks may have left an important instruction for Israel (and the U.S.) for the future conduct of war. If the destruction is so complete that no “compelling photos of the dead” are possible, it is less possible to make undermining propaganda to reel in the loosed dogs of war before the job is done.

Bring on the Daisy-Cutters and the Divine-Strake. Let the sub-humans who allow their children to be used as bombs enjoy the fruits of their labor. Israel should retake lands that are essential for her defense.

trl on December 28, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Blame actually being rightfully placed at the feet of Hamas? Has the world gone sane?

Grafted on December 28, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Nothing more. Nothing less. Without terror Hamas is nothing. Until the Palistinians put an end to Hamas or someone else does, innocents on both sides will die.

kanda on December 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Watching the Palestinians cry about this is kind of like reading those stories of people who jump into lion cages in the zoo to throw things at them and then get mauled in return…only to try to get pity for being mauled.

You know, the kind of idiots that real human beings laugh at every day.

Summer on December 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM

This is the ripple effect of the Bush doctrine. Correct me if I am wrong. Saddam’s Iraq kept Iran in check and the Arab countries didn’t have to worry about Iranian ambitions in their part of the region. With Iraq rebuilding, the other Arab countries have to step up and deal with Iran on their own.

I have the image of old movies where the commander asks for a volunteer to step forward. Everybody but one steps backward leaving the poor sap exposed. The Arabs are stepping back and leaving Hamas/Hezbollah exposed for the Israelis to have at.

Mallard T. Drake on December 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Mallard T. Drake on December 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Yeah but….this has been going on for decades….how long has Bush been in office?

kanda on December 28, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Once again the Palestinians live up to their well-deserved billing as the Original Useful Idiots.

(The only folks who haven’t figured this out are the other Original Useful Idiots in the MoveOn.Org Left.)

Bruno Strozek on December 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM

For people who want to die for their god allah so bad, they sure don’t like it when given the chance to do so.

Mojave Mark on December 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Watching the Palestinians cry about this is kind of like reading those stories of people who jump into lion cages in the zoo to throw things at them and then get mauled in return…only to try to get pity for being mauled.

You know, the kind of idiots that real human beings laugh at every day.

Summer on December 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM


You mean like this?

john1schn on December 28, 2008 at 3:16 PM

This is the ripple effect of the Bush doctrine. Correct me if I am wrong. Saddam’s Iraq kept Iran in check and the Arab countries didn’t have to worry about Iranian ambitions in their part of the region. With Iraq rebuilding, the other Arab countries have to step up and deal with Iran on their own.

Mallard T. Drake on December 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Baloney. Iran was stirring the pot in the Middle East esp. Lebanon before Bush OR his dad ever took on the Saddamite. Ever actually READ history, rather than get it from the NYT?

john1schn on December 28, 2008 at 3:20 PM

They just gotta fight it out and get it over.
May the better man win.

TheSitRep on December 28, 2008 at 3:42 PM

The palestinians lost all measure of sympathy from me when they showed up on CNN dancing in the streets and handing out candy on 9/11.

Before that I’d only seen palestinians being abused by Israelis on CNN – that was back in the day before other, alternative news outlets.

BowHuntingTexas on December 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM

You know if Hezbollah does get involved in this it could mean that Iran has decided to use its proxies to pre emptively strike at Israel, tie up Israel’s military for a while and exhaust their war stocks thus preventing them from being able to carry out any potential attack on Iran’s Nuclear program in the near future.

If this is the case then obviously Iran has made a judgment call and decided that Obama doesn’t have the stones to do what is necessary to prevent them from acquiring nukes which makes it almost certain that Israel will try and take them out themselves.

Ether way it looks like that test of Obama that crazy Joe Biden was talking about back during the campaign has arrived sooner rather than later. So gird your loins folks this is going to get interesting.

Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Is it possible that all of this is Iran trying to keep Israel tied down until Obama is sworn in?

Count to 10 on December 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM

You may have an excellent point. Iran knows they have nothing to fear from Obama, as he assured all of us multiple time in his campaign.
On the issue of Arab(Palestinian)-Israeli conflict Obama has been a chimera. Chicago, the city with the biggest Palestinian population in the US, and a Jewish population with significant wealth and political power gave Obama the perfect stage to master the double-talk-say-nothing. He both publicly supports Israel, and is socially a friend to Khalidi, Said & Wright … (LA Times) who are all not just pro-Palestinian but Anti-Israel, Anti-Zionist & Anti-Semitic. The DNC and Obama have to walk this line very carefully, lest they lose the traditional Jewish vote (and it’s money) or they lose the Islamic vote and it’s increasing population coming from immigration, conversion in prisons(also here), and higher birth rates.

Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO/PA, the Muslim brotherhood, Etc, are all the same Hydra. Really it doesn’t matter if one head proclaims the other no good, they share the same heart. The Palestinian people are just pawns (albeit willing) in empowering the head. Until they accept their role in their own demise and kill the beast from within the conflict will continue.

Meanwhile Israel would be wise to keep their eye on the ball – Iran.

batterup on December 28, 2008 at 4:26 PM

His tool Axelrod came out this morning and said that he would not have a statement because “we only have one president” Seems that when he can make political hay we have two. But when he needs to come down on one side or the other and faces political heat for that “we only have one presdident”

conservnut on December 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Maybe Barry just doesn’t want to embarrass himself again like he did when Russia invaded Georgia and O’Idiot called on Georgia to exercise restraint.

The prospect of being president is starting to look a little tougher than it was when you were just hurling criticisms from the cheap seats, eh Barry?

AZCoyote on December 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM

“Same crap different Day”

The actions by these barbarians have nothing to do with Russia, Iran or even the Magical Negro coming into office. This is what they’ve been doing for decades. You folks give this primitive culture WAY to much credit for how, why and when they choose to kill innocents. It’s in their blood, it’s in their culture and until they are no more it will continue to be so. Don’t try to rationalize irrational behavior. They are animals on the lowest branch of the evolutionary tree. It’s time Israel pruned the tree.

rayvet on December 28, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Be Calm. No need to worry. This just in over the wires:

President-elect Barack Obama is closely monitoring the violence in Israel and Gaza and is in contact with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, his top adviser said Sunday.

But David Axelrod refused to offer an opinion on the fighting between Israeli Defense Forces and Hamas terrorists.

“As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded,” Axelrod said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” Obama has been in Hawaii on vacation with his family during the holiday.

JiangxiDad on December 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Go IDF! Into Gaza and form a larger buffer area from rocket attacks.

Hummer53 on December 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM

I was thinking about that when some of the comments called for paving Gaza. Israel’s next big step might logically be creating a devastated demilitarized zone (which is actually a fully militarized zone) as a buffer between Israel proper and what remains of Gaza.

Every time the Palesterrorists breach the zone, shoot, and if the zone becomes inadequate, bulldoze more of Gaza to extend it.

Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Looks like the IDF launch site locating radar is working quite well. In reprisal, Palestians, merely one group of beneficiaries of centuries of technological achievement propelled by Islamic societal progress and advancement), line up to throw shoes at The Wall.

shaken on December 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM

But David Axelrod refused to offer an opinion on the fighting between Israeli Defense Forces and Hamas terrorists.

“As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded,” Axelrod said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” Obama has been in Hawaii on vacation with his family during the holiday.
JiangxiDad on December 28, 2008 at 4:42 PMPresident-elect Barack Obama is closely monitoring the violence in Israel and Gaza and is in contact with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, his top adviser said Sunday.

But David Axelrod refused to offer an opinion on the fighting between Israeli Defense Forces and Hamas terrorists.

“As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded,” Axelrod said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” Obama has been in Hawaii on vacation with his family during the holiday.
JiangxiDad on December 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Oh he refused to give an opinion huh….how about

As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded

There is a clue there somewhere. It’s amazing how the press spins things.

kanda on December 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM

I love Ed’s irrepressible optimism, but I don’t share it. Nothing that happens in Lebanon will cause the UN to blush, as failure is in the eye of the beholder. They are incapable of recognizing their own failure.

Nor will the Gazans or Palis suddenly decide that the Hamas terrorists aren’t worth the trouble. They will double down, instead. The pressure needed to effect real change there will have to come
a) externally,
b) with great clarity, and
c) with enormous suffering.

The complete cessation of all economic, medical, and social aid to the Palestinians, along with a major military threat against the entire region is the only thing that will get the lazy and despicable Arabs off of their cushy chairs to help change minds.

And with oil at such low prices, this might be just the time to act, as the benefactors of terrorism (Russia, Iran, et al) are feeling the squeeze, and might be willing to engage.

Awfully hard to imagine, isn’t it?

Jaibones on December 28, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Just wait until Hussein Obama takes over. I truly fear for Israel. We can expect Russia and Iran to do everything in their power to eradicate the country. But with the backing of the US, it was containable. Starting 1/20 Israel has exactly 0 friends left in the world. I don’t see how they survive.

angryed on December 28, 2008 at 6:24 PM

My my, using the playbook of the SS as practiced against the Warsaw Ghetto will not win friends or influence enemies.

unclesmrgol on December 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Strange comparison.

Johan Klaus on December 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Good call, keep your enemy busy, distracted, and depleted.

N4646W on December 28, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Hit the Hamas b*stards again because there are still some of them moving.

ex-Democrat on December 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Just wait until Hussein Obama takes over.

Oh, don’t worry. The American media will protect Barry from the Russian bear.

Not.

ex-Democrat on December 28, 2008 at 10:16 PM

The usual UN condemnation of Israel for defending its borders should be forthcoming. If Israel immediately dropped one 2000 pound bomb for every rocket fired into their country they might get Hamas attention. No need to warn, just have predetermined targets and respond immediately and also drop leaflets letting the Palestinians know what their actions caused. They are not at the level of understanding to understand fair diplomacy, they just understand power.

DL13 on December 28, 2008 at 11:20 PM

The usual UN condemnation of Israel for defending its borders should be forthcoming. If Israel immediately dropped one 2000 pound bomb for every rocket fired into their country they might get Hamas attention. No need to warn, just have predetermined targets and respond immediately and also drop leaflets letting the Palestinians know what their actions caused. They are not at the level of understanding to understand fair diplomacy, they just understand power.

DL13 on December 28, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Israel could bulldoze the entire Gaza strip, pave over it, and use it as a parking lot for their tanks and the Palestinians still wouldn’t get the message.

Dreadnought223 on December 28, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Hamas: the Sean Avery of the Middle East.

Kane Rogers on December 29, 2008 at 3:42 AM

He wants an uprising to end their rule in Gaza and return Fatah to power so that he can unite Gaza and the West Bank under his somewhat more moderate less extreme rule.

Better?

Dollayo on December 29, 2008 at 5:17 AM