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		<title>By: Spartacus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1744490</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Washington state, donors to the socialist party are protected from disclosure due to the potential negative results that disclosure would bring to the donors. Protection for traitors but none for the Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Washington state, donors to the socialist party are protected from disclosure due to the potential negative results that disclosure would bring to the donors. Protection for traitors but none for the Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: William2006</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1744061</link>
		<dc:creator>William2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let’s face it.  Large groups of gays can chase peaceful Christians off a public street right in front of the cops but if those same peaceful Christian dared to us the same tactics in front of an abortion clinic they will go to prison.They could not force their way inside the offices and disrupt their business but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.

&lt;em&gt;NeoKong on December 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow!

Did YOU hit the nail on the head!

I think the same applies to man hating, fascist, abortion militancy feminists, Code Pink and International A.N.S.W.E.R type radicals, and Islamicists.  All appear to get a free ride, or gentle treatment when it comes to violating the rights of others.

Nevertheless, Obama radicals, and homosexual, lesbian, transsexual, transgendered advocates do get a pass on improper, rude, militant, mob-rule behavior.


William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s face it.  Large groups of gays can chase peaceful Christians off a public street right in front of the cops but if those same peaceful Christian dared to us the same tactics in front of an abortion clinic they will go to prison.They could not force their way inside the offices and disrupt their business but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.</p>
<p><em>NeoKong on December 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Wow!</p>
<p>Did YOU hit the nail on the head!</p>
<p>I think the same applies to man hating, fascist, abortion militancy feminists, Code Pink and International A.N.S.W.E.R type radicals, and Islamicists.  All appear to get a free ride, or gentle treatment when it comes to violating the rights of others.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, Obama radicals, and homosexual, lesbian, transsexual, transgendered advocates do get a pass on improper, rude, militant, mob-rule behavior.</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: Red State State of Mind</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1743788</link>
		<dc:creator>Red State State of Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I won’t have people demonstrating outside my door, but the people I depend on to earn a living, may just stop answering my calls. Yes, they are super leftards and they are that petty.

Blake on December 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt; For many years, I worked in the hotel industry, which is rampant with hard left liberals. You wouldn&#039;t believe some of the comments made at staff and organizational meetings. If a conservative had expressed their views on a similar topic, it would have not been tolerated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I won’t have people demonstrating outside my door, but the people I depend on to earn a living, may just stop answering my calls. Yes, they are super leftards and they are that petty.</p>
<p>Blake on December 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM</p></blockquote>
<p> For many years, I worked in the hotel industry, which is rampant with hard left liberals. You wouldn&#8217;t believe some of the comments made at staff and organizational meetings. If a conservative had expressed their views on a similar topic, it would have not been tolerated.</p>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1743383</link>
		<dc:creator>unclesmrgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Prop 8 stuff shows that transparency works.   We can&#039;t, unfortunately, boycott major contributors to No on Prop 8 like PG&amp;E, but we sure can make our voices felt with companies like Apple and Google, which do not have monopolies over their customers.

And, now that I know Google was a NO on 8 contributor, I&#039;m using yahoo search.  And, since I have yet to spend a dime on Apple equipment, I&#039;m good to go in that regard.  Those of you who have iPods might want to consider Apple&#039;s position when it&#039;s time to replace the ear candy dispenser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prop 8 stuff shows that transparency works.   We can&#8217;t, unfortunately, boycott major contributors to No on Prop 8 like PG&amp;E, but we sure can make our voices felt with companies like Apple and Google, which do not have monopolies over their customers.</p>
<p>And, now that I know Google was a NO on 8 contributor, I&#8217;m using yahoo search.  And, since I have yet to spend a dime on Apple equipment, I&#8217;m good to go in that regard.  Those of you who have iPods might want to consider Apple&#8217;s position when it&#8217;s time to replace the ear candy dispenser.</p>
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		<title>By: rob verdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob verdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post&#039; McCain_Feingold is idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post&#8217; McCain_Feingold is idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_from_mpls</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1743247</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff_from_mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or just make it a federal hate crime with a mandatory prison sentence for anyone who assaults, harasses, or intimidates another person using an online federal data source to obtain knowledge about that person and his or her identity.

Make it possible under RICO to prosecute any organization and its leaders that use its resources to organize and incite violence or intimidation against any individual using online federal data sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or just make it a federal hate crime with a mandatory prison sentence for anyone who assaults, harasses, or intimidates another person using an online federal data source to obtain knowledge about that person and his or her identity.</p>
<p>Make it possible under RICO to prosecute any organization and its leaders that use its resources to organize and incite violence or intimidation against any individual using online federal data sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark30339</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark30339</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic.  &lt;strong&gt;It looks like disclosure on Prop 8 campaigns is the equivalent of Card Check.&lt;/strong&gt;  My support for the &quot;wrong&quot; side of a cause exposes me to serious intimidation by brown shirts on the other side.  What can we do about these Act-Up brown shirts?  And if we create loopholes on disclosure, we&#039;ll get John Galt circumvention all over the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic.  <strong>It looks like disclosure on Prop 8 campaigns is the equivalent of Card Check.</strong>  My support for the &#8220;wrong&#8221; side of a cause exposes me to serious intimidation by brown shirts on the other side.  What can we do about these Act-Up brown shirts?  And if we create loopholes on disclosure, we&#8217;ll get John Galt circumvention all over the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Done That</title>
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		<dc:creator>Done That</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repeal McCain-Feingold. Get rid of contribution limits. Report all contributions. If there is a downside to it, so be it, but don&#039;t forget that right now anyone who contributes over $200 has their name reported already, so there won&#039;t be much of a downside.If there are people out to buy a politician then they&#039;ll just have to deal with the consequences, if there are any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repeal McCain-Feingold. Get rid of contribution limits. Report all contributions. If there is a downside to it, so be it, but don&#8217;t forget that right now anyone who contributes over $200 has their name reported already, so there won&#8217;t be much of a downside.If there are people out to buy a politician then they&#8217;ll just have to deal with the consequences, if there are any.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1743218</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is the issue of power of one&#039;s convictions. If one is willing to deny one&#039;s convictions like the Disciple Peter then they really aren&#039;t convictions are they? 

Much better to have full transparency. All the better to understand who will stand by what they believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is the issue of power of one&#8217;s convictions. If one is willing to deny one&#8217;s convictions like the Disciple Peter then they really aren&#8217;t convictions are they? </p>
<p>Much better to have full transparency. All the better to understand who will stand by what they believe.</p>
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		<title>By: snaggletoothie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/26/when-transparency-and-accountability-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-1743216</link>
		<dc:creator>snaggletoothie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the gay activists were conservatives threatening the jobs of liberals there would be a lot of talk about a chilling effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the gay activists were conservatives threatening the jobs of liberals there would be a lot of talk about a chilling effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also held off on making donations to political campaigns because I believed it could be used against me. This last election, I said the hell with it. This sort of intimidation has been going on for years. You just don&#039;t hear about it. I won&#039;t have people demonstrating outside my door, but the people I depend on to earn a living, may just stop answering my calls. Yes, they are super leftards and they are that petty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also held off on making donations to political campaigns because I believed it could be used against me. This last election, I said the hell with it. This sort of intimidation has been going on for years. You just don&#8217;t hear about it. I won&#8217;t have people demonstrating outside my door, but the people I depend on to earn a living, may just stop answering my calls. Yes, they are super leftards and they are that petty.</p>
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		<title>By: Shep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please, O please, O pretty please, invade our sanctuary, perverts.  We have a congregation that carries and isn&#039;t afraid to bust heads of scum-bags that invade our private property with ill-intent in mind.  Bring it on!  Enough is enough.  Rest assured, we will lovingly pray for your healing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please, O please, O pretty please, invade our sanctuary, perverts.  We have a congregation that carries and isn&#8217;t afraid to bust heads of scum-bags that invade our private property with ill-intent in mind.  Bring it on!  Enough is enough.  Rest assured, we will lovingly pray for your healing.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfesser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Equal enforcement would help resolve this situation.  I&#039;m not holding my breath, though.  The double-standard decribed by NeoKong has been institionalized.  Want to know what&#039;s coming?  Look at what the Leftists have been whining about for the last 7 years.  Consider it to be projection.

It&#039;s crucial that we push back.  Behavior, morals, and ethics can not be legislated.  However, it&#039;s necessary to use some of the Leftists tactics against them through legislation, and media exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Equal enforcement would help resolve this situation.  I&#8217;m not holding my breath, though.  The double-standard decribed by NeoKong has been institionalized.  Want to know what&#8217;s coming?  Look at what the Leftists have been whining about for the last 7 years.  Consider it to be projection.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crucial that we push back.  Behavior, morals, and ethics can not be legislated.  However, it&#8217;s necessary to use some of the Leftists tactics against them through legislation, and media exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s novel thought, criminally PUNISH those who attempt to retaliate against someone for supporting a particular political position.  There&#039;s way too much bullshit going on today under the guise of &#039;free speech&#039;.  To me that doesn&#039;t include picketing in front of someones home or business, or following their kids to school just because you don&#039;t like their political leanings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s novel thought, criminally PUNISH those who attempt to retaliate against someone for supporting a particular political position.  There&#8217;s way too much bullshit going on today under the guise of &#8216;free speech&#8217;.  To me that doesn&#8217;t include picketing in front of someones home or business, or following their kids to school just because you don&#8217;t like their political leanings.</p>
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		<title>By: Skandia Recluse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skandia Recluse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderates want to take a stand on the issues but don&#039;t want anyone to know what that position is.

So let&#039;s not make anyone angry. Well just keep our opinions to ourselves. (and our bribes secret)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderates want to take a stand on the issues but don&#8217;t want anyone to know what that position is.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s not make anyone angry. Well just keep our opinions to ourselves. (and our bribes secret)</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe all donations should be made public, regardless of amount.  If you believe in a candidate or position strongly enough to give money, you should be willing to have your donation be publicly recognized.  If you fear knowledge of your donation will harm you, don&#039;t donate. At least you can still vote secretly, for now.
 
We have seen how Barry took millions in obviously foreign, and therefore illegal, donations in 2008.  We know that Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal foreign donations in 1996 and 2000.  It&#039;s time to stop playing the fool.  All donations need to be made public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe all donations should be made public, regardless of amount.  If you believe in a candidate or position strongly enough to give money, you should be willing to have your donation be publicly recognized.  If you fear knowledge of your donation will harm you, don&#8217;t donate. At least you can still vote secretly, for now.</p>
<p>We have seen how Barry took millions in obviously foreign, and therefore illegal, donations in 2008.  We know that Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal foreign donations in 1996 and 2000.  It&#8217;s time to stop playing the fool.  All donations need to be made public.</p>
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		<title>By: NeoKong</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoKong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The McCain campaign had the right idea.  They disclosed everyone while withholding their street addresses.  Unfortunately, that’s the only way to ensure transparency in the process while protecting the security of the donors themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How did that work out for him....?

I do not think that people should have to conceal who they donate to just so they do not upset the opposition.
Maybe it&#039;s time to crack down on the zealots who try to bully and intimidate people with their thuggery.

Let&#039;s face it.
Large groups of gays can chase peaceful Christians off a public street right in front of the cops but if those same peaceful Christian dared to us the same tactics in front of an abortion clinic they will go to prison.They could not force their way inside the offices and disrupt their business but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.

People should not have to donate in secret just because certain  protected political groups are above the law.
It&#039;s a double standard.
Some views are protected and some views are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The McCain campaign had the right idea.  They disclosed everyone while withholding their street addresses.  Unfortunately, that’s the only way to ensure transparency in the process while protecting the security of the donors themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>How did that work out for him&#8230;.?</p>
<p>I do not think that people should have to conceal who they donate to just so they do not upset the opposition.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s time to crack down on the zealots who try to bully and intimidate people with their thuggery.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it.<br />
Large groups of gays can chase peaceful Christians off a public street right in front of the cops but if those same peaceful Christian dared to us the same tactics in front of an abortion clinic they will go to prison.They could not force their way inside the offices and disrupt their business but gay activist can invade any church they want and display the most foul behavior possible with no penalty.</p>
<p>People should not have to donate in secret just because certain  protected political groups are above the law.<br />
It&#8217;s a double standard.<br />
Some views are protected and some views are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rules are only for conservatives.  How can liberals be the saviors of the earth if they are expected to actually adhere to the law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rules are only for conservatives.  How can liberals be the saviors of the earth if they are expected to actually adhere to the law?</p>
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