Video: Michelle rips Bush for revoked pardon, subprime crisis
posted at 1:37 pm on December 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
Ten minutes from Fox & Friends this morning, the first half of which is spent curtsying to Queen Caroline and paying final tribute to Bush’s “better national security through open borders” policy. Skip ahead to 6:00 for the meat of it, a back and forth on the disgraceful, now-rescinded Toussie pardon. Did you know that he’s been out of prison for years now? Or that he pled guilty, freely and fairly, to the charges against him? Or that there’s a class-action suit with 400 plaintiffs stemming from his mortgage chicanery still pending against him in federal court? Or that normal protocol meant his pardon shouldn’t even have been considered until next year? Or the fact that his dad dropped $28,500 on the RNC just eight months ago, a fact discoverable via a routine search on Open Secrets? Somehow this was all either unknown or irrelevant to the White House until after the pardon was issued. No wonder 75 percent say they won’t miss Dubya. I wonder if the boss is one of them.
The obvious, yet somehow tragically unasked exit question: Would she support a pardon for Ramos and Compean? Hmmm.
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Uh, that was “ripping” Bush? If that was “ripping” Bush I wonder what the Dems have done to him is called?
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 1:46 PM
She is a stimulus package.
artist on December 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
In spirit, I wish Ramos and Compean would be pardoned or at least received some deep considerations thrown their way during sentencing. Unfortunately, that would open up a floodgate of equally tenuous requests with equally compelling arguments.
The guys screwed themselves with their cover up. All of us understand what they were doing for this country. But you just have greater accountability when you have that much authority. Our policing agencies cannot send out autonomous robocops. Policing of the police and all law enforcement is dirty work…but somebody has to do it.
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So long GWB. Thanks for the efforts. No thanks for not explaining yourself much better to the country you were running.
The Race Card on December 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Allah- by the did “you” know, are you talking to Michelle? Are you disagreeing with her?
MayBee on December 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Wouldn’t it be interesting if Obama came in and pardoned Ramos/Compeon?
artist on December 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Are we talking about Michelle here?
Grrrrrrrrllllllll.
Mojave Mark on December 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Bush is out of office in about three weeks. Just shake his hand, pat him on the back, tell him ‘good job Brownie’, and send him off into retirement.
The zero, on the other hand, is going to be a disaster.
Skandia Recluse on December 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I wish Michelle would spend more time here at Hot Air.
Percy_Peabody on December 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM
I don’t mean to be a whiner, but when I read Allah’s posts, it’s like walking into the middle of a lengthy complicated conversation, having no background whatsoever, being forced to click ten links to read 100 stories before finally coming back to the post here just to have any idea what the post is about!
Or maybe I’m just an idiot.
TheBlueSite on December 26, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Frankly, it would be something Jorge Boosh didn’t have the stones to do, so I’d applaud Osama Obama if he did. Even a none-too-bright, venal leftard can do things right once in a while. If he pardons them….
Of course Boosh should have told “mah good friend” Johnny Sutton to drop the illegal actions and lies he employed to railroad them…if he had, none of this would be necessary. Now, I’m convinced ol’ Jorge should have their names tattooed on his forehead, and should be placed in solitary confinement as long as they sit in cells.
Why ask Michelle? It’s clear from the screaming silence of her blog and public appearances that she doesn’t give a happy damn about these two men.
MrScribbler on December 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
The guys screwed themselves with their cover up.
The Race Card on December 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Yeah, they did try to cover up but it was mostly administrative. The bottom line is that they are both doing about 10 years in solitary for shooting a drug smuggler (who may have been about to shoot them) in the ass. This might have been worth a suspension or even a loss of job but the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. I think that the time served is more than ample. I am also sure that this case makes it very difficult for current border patrol agents to do their jobs effectively.
duff65 on December 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Michelle Malkin’s video clips are the high point of today. The conservative ladies did a very good job this year–Michelle, Laura Ingraham, Tammy Bruce, Sarah Palin.
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Why would President Bush pardon this creep and leave Ramos and Campeon in prison? The presidential (and state governor’s) pardons were intended to correct miscarriages of justice–not to pay back political cronies.
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The video background looked like Frisco–I hope Michelle made it back O.K. from her visit to Sodom and Gomorrah!
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John Bibb
rocketman on December 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM
I still can’t believe that the Bush Administration, John McCain and the Republicans in Congress are largely taking the hit for the economic crisis that the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party caused.
Any holdovers from the Bush years at the RNC should be immediately shown the door.
They can go find employment guarding harems.
“Turn the other cheek” really works in politics. It gets you 25% approval ratings and status as a minority party, while the idiots, mutineers and fecal matter encrusted perverts (e.g. Barney Frank) who caused all of our problems, are now in charge of “fixing” them.
Great news.
NoDonkey on December 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Watching the video, I’m surprised that Michelle doesn’t have all the information when asked about the pardon being revoked. Link to
Pardon Power
Ulysses S. Grant’s first clemency decision, on his third day in office, was to revoke two pardons granted by Andrew Johnson. Both men challenged Grant’s power to do so, and lost their case in federal court.
bobsunshine on December 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
of course she is! she’s a great lady who has a great deal of common sense to go along with her good looks!
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM
LOL. Yeah, references from many other topics/threads/comments, but all happily related. If you miss a few days, you’re screwed :)
JiangxiDad on December 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM
How quickly they forget Clinton`s pardons, especially the Terrorists, as per his wife, and Marc Rich, whose wife we just found out was a major donor to Clintons library
HAGGS99 on December 26, 2008 at 2:43 PM
I would hope so.
Is Michelle in San Francisco? Looks like it in the background.
Kini on December 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM
yeah but Bill had a pair of very good reasons for that…
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 2:47 PM
“Is someone asleep at the wheel at the White House?” Duh! They have been asleep for 8 years…H–e–l–l–o!!! But then again…all one has to do these days in Washington is drop some large jing into either the Republican or Democratic coffers and good things happen for you!!!
sabbott on December 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM
The fox guarding the hen house.
Johan Klaus on December 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
“Pay to Play”……….. infesting our political system like maggots on bloated decomposing corpse.
……… needless to say, after having such high expectations when President Bush had control of the Congress back in the day…………. I childishly believed that things would change.
My trust in our Republic is, so to say…………. shaken.
Seven Percent Solution on December 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
And let me add that anyone who believes that a drug smuggler would be hauling the quantity of drugs that this guy was without a gun is just kidding themselves. R and C should have reported the shooting immediately and played everything by the book, but to imprison them for not doing so was beyond ludicrous. They’ve already suffered far more than most real criminals do for much more serious crimes. It’s time to let them go. Unfortunately, neither Bush nor Obama will do the right thing.
AZCoyote on December 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM
right4life You got that right!
HAGGS99 on December 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Heh.
Jaibones on December 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
NoDonkey, the Republican Party’s problems don’t begin and end with Bush I’m afraid:
It’s not a coincidence that the GOP doesn’t appeal to minorities.
starfleet_dude on December 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM
It’s not a coincidence that the GOP doesn’t appeal to minorities.
starfleet_dude on December 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Let me guess, you voted for the guy who went to a racist church for 20 years?
artist on December 26, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I’m Hispanic and I vote GOP. How do you explain that one then?
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Oh by the way not every Republican likes Rush Limbaugh. I don’t.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 3:41 PM
terryannonline, it’s the fact that a candidate for RNC chair thinks Limbaugh isn’t a liability when it comes to broadening the party’s appeal to minorities that’s the problem. Stupid jokes about the “Star-Spanglish Banner” don’t help.
starfleet_dude on December 26, 2008 at 3:45 PM
starfleet:
If you would know what you were talking about, you wouldn’t have a complaint. Do you know how “Barack the Magic Negro” started? Do you know any of the backround of those examples you gave. You don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh do you? If not, then quit showing your ignotance!
Vince on December 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Just because idiots like Limbaugh and Saltsman (who is candidate for RNC and I hope he doesn’t get the chairmanship) do extremely stupid stuff doesn’t mean every Republican agrees with them. If Bill Maher says something does that represent all Democrats? Do all Democrats think the Pope is a Nazi like Bill Maher? NO.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 3:52 PM
The GOP appeals to minorities who know that there is no free lunch.
Vince on December 26, 2008 at 3:52 PM
I think Michelle is a babe. Smart and sexy. And I am not talking about the skank that married Obama.
Geochelone on December 26, 2008 at 3:54 PM
terryannonline, Saltsman may only be a candidate but the damage is already done in terms of bad publicity being generated for the GOP. Unnecessarily pissing people off (in this case, minorities) is always bad politics.
starfleet_dude on December 26, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Michelle’s criticisms of GW proves that Conservatives
can disagree with some of his policies and be constructive.
No personal attacks, and at least proposing positive solutions. I had my disagreements with GW, but in the overall picture, the man has done good and succeeded.
dec5 on December 26, 2008 at 4:00 PM
You are correct Saltsman shouldn’t have distributed that stuff and I hope he doesn’t get the RNC chair (and he probably won’t, never even heard of that guy). Again, high profile Democrats on Bill Maher show does that mean they are anti-Catholic bigots like Bill Maher?Current DNC chairman Howard Dean has appeared on the Bill Maher show, does that mean Howard Dean is anti-Catholic and all Democrats are anti-Catholic bigots? No, I don’t think so.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 4:02 PM
“rocketman on December 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM”
don’t ever call tammy a conservative — she openly admits being a social liberal [and not much better on economic issues!], she just has more than enough good sense to STRONGLY back righties when it comes to foreign policy / security issues …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Thanks Michelle you always call it like you see it.Like i said before bush will never pardon Ramos & Conpean because it would make his good friend U.S.Att. Johnny Sutton look bad .What a disgrace if he does not pardon these 2 heros.This is what you get when a Rep.Pres. says i what to set a new tone in D.C.We need a mean nasty take no prisoners consev. canidate to run in 2012.
thmcbb on December 26, 2008 at 4:17 PM
So why did these two heroes, Ramos and Compean decide to pick up their shell casings from the shooting, and changed his story about the shooting, among the other ‘non heros’ actions of the two.
wise_man on December 26, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Crap. Michelle and Sarah are conservatives (Sarah leans libertarian). Laura is a Catholic, which makes her conservative traits more religious rather than secular.
And Tammy Bruce is no conservative, as Buckaroo pointed out earlier. It may take awhile but the time will come when people realize that deviant sex devotees are fundamentally incapable of being conservative. At best, they can occupy the “anything goes privacy tent” but there is nothing conservative about homosexual activity.
Laura really should find another guest host before the rumors get started.
platypus on December 26, 2008 at 4:43 PM
if you think Rush is an idiot, then you must think conservatives are idiots. what ‘stupid stuff’ has rush ever done??
if the republican party was more like rush, instead of a bunch blue-blooded country club snobs, they’d win far more minority votes.
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 4:54 PM
+5
platypus on December 26, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Bush may have encouraged that king of lending behavior because it was the law, and the law requuired it. Michelle, get a grip. Can you say Community Reinvestment Act?
Is MM dumping on Bush because it makes her look taller?
Pelayo on December 26, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I was a former Limbaugh listener who put it to rest once Clinton was gone, then picked him back up during these elections particularly when MSM began false reporting of results and viewpoints. Rush is about the only thing accurate other than sites like this these days.
johnnyU on December 26, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Sorry but I think Rush Limbaugh is a shock jock. He likes to say outlandish things for the sake of being outrageous. Just look at the “Controversy” section of his Wiki and you can see that he crosses the line a lot.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:03 PM
This is an authoritative source? Gag me with a spoon.
platypus on December 26, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Wonder of all the Obama-aid drinking fools hanging in here will feel the same about The One’s Blago-cover-up. Certainly can’t count on the Press to push the issue once it comes out.
Since when did “punishment fit the crime” become a medium? There is no justice in America because America has lost it’s soul – “Liberty” is dead.
This case about politics, not justice. And that’s pretty much what America has become all about as well – “politics”!
These guys didn’t/don’t deserve this – period! But then, like William Money says in “Unforgiven”, “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”
klickink.wordpress.com on December 26, 2008 at 5:12 PM
You make things so easy.
I’m sure you were front and center ripping the L.A. Times, when it was one of theiropinion pieces that referred to Mr. Obama as “Barack the Magic Negro.” I’M SURE.
And that would be what the Paul Shanklin parody on that cd refers to.
If you bothered to, you know, listen to your opposition, as opposed to assuming that you have any clue what you’re talking about, you’d have known that.
Today’s homework: look up the words “context” and “tool” in the dictionary.
You need to learn and memorize the definition of the former.
And the latter describes you perfectly.
Hawkins1701 on December 26, 2008 at 5:14 PM
+10
platypus on December 26, 2008 at 5:14 PM
He’s a capitalist, plain and simple. If he believed half the crap he spews he’d buy the New York Times and steer it to the right. All these so-call talk-hosts lack the balls to sacrifice for their beliefs like the Founders they espouse and quote ad-nasuem sacrificed.
klickink.wordpress.com on December 26, 2008 at 5:15 PM
In this particular case Rush Limbaugh Wiki page actually have sources. For example, this one or this.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:15 PM
You’re a sweetheart, terryann, but don’t go to wiki for unbiased political information.
The question remains: what idiot thing(s) has Rush done (personal stuff doesn’t count)? “Barack the magic negro” was coined by a black liberal in the LA Times.
misterpeasea on December 26, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Michael J. Fox.
That’s it? Note Rush apologized on air on the same show, but I don’t think he had much to apologize for.
Thinking a loony leftist actor who has never shown the shakes before might be hamming it up?
Horrors!
misterpeasea on December 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM
“platypus on December 26, 2008 at 4:43 PM”
not sure why you are so down on tammy — and on laura for that matter. tammy is an EXCELLENT hostess, i’m bummed i only get her show on weekends out here and am thrilled whenever she hosts for laura or anyone else!
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Fox is at least mildly retarded for supporting a woman who claimed the eeevil American “big oil” companies fix the price of oil.
Speaking of which, isn’t it funny how $140/bbl oil was bad, and now $35/bbl oil is…bad?
misterpeasea on December 26, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Just because a black columnist wrote it doesn’t mean it’s ok for Rush Limbaugh to say it and make a song out it.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Do yah HAAATE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, we HAAAATE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s ALL HAAAATE BOOOOOOOOOOOSHH!!!!!!! Together!!!!!!
Feel BETTER, now?……..Yeah – I didn’t think so……
grtflmark on December 26, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Shouldn’t we be redistributing some of that wealth, say 99%. Why would anyone need over 1 million dollars?
rgranger on December 26, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Oh REEEEELY?!! So – tell us terryann of the Double Standards, when IS IT okay for Conservatives to engage in the lightest possible form of Mockery and Derision that the Left Apparently is ALWAYS okay to be initiating?
You’re full of BS – if the Left says it: it’s fair game for making a song out of it!
grtflmark on December 26, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Why not? Did you read the column? Lots of Democrats questioned the quality of Barry’s blackness. No Republicans did.
Rush isn’t supposed to parody and highlight the hypocrisy?
That’s a ridiculously shallow view.
misterpeasea on December 26, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I don’t know what ‘line’ you think rush crosses..please spell out this line…and how he crosses it.
rush is a conservative, who uses humor to mock the left…and they HATE HIM for that…they can’t beat his ideas, so they have to lie about him. too bad you buy their lies about rush.
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 5:45 PM
terry, jmo, but dissing rush in this thread will have no good outcome for you …
/disclosure — ~17 year listener to rush, don’t ascribe to him any special powers, but surely respect, admire, and appreciate his role as one who articulates and orates for the conservative cause in the u.s. day in and day out …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Michelle did not say squat about subprime loans herself for years. She was too busy screaming about DubaiPorts and the North American Union.
I maybe the exception, but I will miss Bush and I don’t think one pardon revoked is all that bad. But then I am not a self righteous sanctimonious pundit who is more interested in selling books than winning elections.
Terrye on December 26, 2008 at 5:46 PM
why not? its the perfect thing to mock and make fun of. so its OK for black liberals to say things, but not OK for white conservatives to say the same things???
so some pigs are more equal than others…..Orwell would understand your sentiments perfectly…
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I am not a big fan of Rush myself, but I like him a lot better than I like MM. Sorry, I know this is her place, but then I don’t spend nearly as much time here as I used to.
Terrye on December 26, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Oh and by the way the L.A. Times columnist had the term in quotes.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:48 PM
And I think that in the not so distant future that 75% number might change. I think however, that is not unusual after 8 years.
Terrye on December 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM
starfleet:
I grew up in Oklahoma, back in the 50′s. The GOP was not the party of the KKK back then, it is just amazing how the Democrats have managed to rehabilitate themselves. It is as if Americans were historically illiterate or something.
Terrye on December 26, 2008 at 5:52 PM
here’s the headline from that story..
but you can’t make fun of because a ‘black man’ wrote it…see I used quotes!!!
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Yes. Let me give an example: Conan O’Brien can make jokes about Irish-Americans on his show because he’s of Irish ancestry. He is joking about his own ethnic background. Jon Stewart can make jokes about the Jewish culture because he is Jewish. It also depends on the content of the joke is.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:58 PM
“Terrye on December 26, 2008 at 5:46 PM”
a hearty “HEH” to you for deftly pointing such things out!
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 5:59 PM
ah no, the reason is political correctness…old KKK Kleagle Byrd can say white n***er, and its OK…but let a republican say Strom Thurmond was a good guy…and its RACISM….
we live in an orwellian world..
right4life on December 26, 2008 at 6:00 PM
“terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 5:58 PM”
wholly disagree — “the joke is the joke. if i can’t tell a black joke in oakland, then i can’t tell it anywhere. if i can’t tell a beaner joke in east l.a., then i can’t tell it anywhere.” — Carlos Mencia [paraphrased]
/again, jmo, but i’d stop digging if i were you …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Hey, I appear NOBODY using racially charged jokes. However, there’s a difference. For example, I’m Hispanic. I’m not going react the same way to George Lopez or Carlos Mencia making joke about Hispanic culture the same way I would if a non-Hispanic making jokes about Hispanics. That’s just the way it is.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Meant to write:
Hey, I prefer NOBODY using racially charged jokes.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Bush can’t win.
If he lets the pardon stand, he gets criticized.
And,
when he revokes the pardon, he gets criticized.
*sheesh*
franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:14 PM
“terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 6:08 PM”
as pointed out above, u then have swallowed whole the pc/identity politics b.s. pls. skip me on the distribution of yer first “speech code” — thx. …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:16 PM
“franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:14 PM”
hey, i detest mm’s W-bashing more than just about anyone else, but it’s a pardon he NEVER SHOULD HAVE MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:18 PM
I’ll say it again: I prefer that NOBODY used racially charged language. However, saying that there’s NO difference between people of certain ethnic background/culture saying something about their own ethnic background/culture is exact same as someone outside the culture saying it is absurd. It’s like liberals trying to say that there’s really no differences between men and women. Yes, there are differences.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Your boss is a babe, and witty, “Bush infrastructure” indeed. Snort.
She also knows that this pardon idiocy is a natural by-product of “government bureaucracy”: Power (mostly) unchecked. It isn’t that they want to do harm. It’s just that, … well, “Them’s the rules.”
Bush is culpable because he has used his Presidency to empower the Bureaucracy. But, as David Kahane says, “He’s either the biggest chump or the best Christian in the country.” I’m with the latter.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGRiYTFhY2VlNTdhNDg3ZDhiMTAzMjY4MjI1Mzg1MzQ=
williars on December 26, 2008 at 6:26 PM
You don’t ‘spose, there was a clerical error, somewhere down the line?
I reiterate:
*sheesh*
franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:29 PM
“However, saying that there’s NO difference between people of certain ethnic background/culture saying something about their own ethnic background/culture is exact same as someone outside the culture saying it is absurd”
um, no it’s not — unless u subscribe to “identiy politics uber alles” like apparently u do — that sort of logic gives us actual absurdities like, for example, p. diddy saying “n__r” and not being sanctioned for it but ANYONE that happens to belong to the ~89% of America that DOESN”T share his skin pigmentation CAN’T say it w/o essentially hellfire raining down upon them …
/eyeroll
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:30 PM
“franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:29 PM”
r u serious? a day’s worth of digging finds the connection that causes the pardon to be rescinded and you chalk that up to a “clerical error” rather than deliberate politicial favoring?
/occam, meet razor …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM
At the end of the day,
the AH is still in prison.
So, what ‘s the beef?
franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Oh wait,
He’s already paid his debt to society.
So, what’s the beef?
franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:39 PM
“franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:39 PM”
the beef is with the appearance that his old man “bought” the pardon, which is precisely the type of behavior we [rightly] detested in w’s predecessor {annnd are bracing for from his successor} …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 6:41 PM
No matter the issue,
if Bush steps to the left, he gets criticized.
If He steps to the right, he gets criticized.
Some people, (you know who you are,) consider it their life’s work to pule.
Mus’ be a slow news day.
franksalterego on December 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Sorry we are just going to have disagree. You can call it “identity politics” all you want. But every group (not just races or cultures) have certain codes and boundaries. Would I like everyone to be treated exactly the same and fair? Would I like it if what is out of bounds for one group to be out of bounds for everyone? Yes and Yes. But it’s more complex than that, unfortunately.
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM
again, if he had NEVER CONSIDERED THE PARDON IN THE FIRST PLACE no intellectually honest person could nor would have criticized him. it’s his actual granting of it that’s the issue, i give him 1/2 a cheer for rescinding it as a semi-corrective measure …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM
“But it’s more complex than that, unfortunately.”
no, it’s not. i don’t give a rip about some group’s internal “codes and boundaries” — you play by society’s rules. the moment we as society start making exceptions to that, well, then we get what we deserve with the balkanization and perpetual victimhood of various IDENTITY groups …
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 7:04 PM
So if tomorrow the global community decided to enact a new world society, would you accuse the Americans that don’t want to join the new world as “balkanizing” the world?
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 7:15 PM
“terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 7:15 PM”
that’s a non sequitor and does not address my assertion re: the impropriety of setting up behavioral and language exceptions for various identity groups …
but, for the heckuva it, if said “world society” looks anything like the u.n. — count me out …
:-)
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM
No, ‘Republicans’ like you are more interested in selling out than winning elections. Try looking up the word ‘principles’ in the dictionary, Terrye. Then, try developing some before you take potshots at someone like Michelle.
People like you stuck us with McCain. He stunk from day one, but you guys nominated him anyway. He lost. You blew it. Quit trying to blame the people who saw what was coming months ago.
austinnelly on December 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
I’ll give one more example. Isn’t there a slang word that is used to refer U.S. Marines. It’s not offensive if a Marine uses the word but isn’t seen as offensive if someone who’s not a Marine uses it?
terryannonline on December 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
if the squid [or the zoomie, or the groundpounder, or perhaps even the coastie] who calls them jarheads can defend himself from the potential onslaught, it’s all fair game …
:-)
/disclousre — am not any of the five listed above but respect ‘em all!
Buckaroo on December 26, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Terry, you should know better. Wikipedia is a leftist invention, controlled by leftists up and down the ladder. To quote that space for Rush Limbaugh is about as logical as quoting a DU commenter about Rush.
Your sourcing needs an upgrade.
Jaibones on December 26, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Geez terryann… give it a rest! You got it wrong from the get-go because you didn’t know what the whole satire thing was about and now you can’t admit you were wrong with your kneejerk reaction.
Starfleet is a butthead and he/she pulled you right into it!
Vince on December 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM
“Would she support a pardon for Ramos and Compean? Hmmm.”
I would be surprised and dismayed if she was against it.
If Maliki can consider pardoning the shoe-thrower and Dubya can pardon the waste of skin here, (Toussie?), then what’s keeping him from it aside from Johnny Sutton’s ‘integrity’ and the open borders make us more secure strategy?
And yet, the NAU elephant is still invisible to some people.
Amazing.
Christine on December 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM
I’ve followed Ramos/Compean since it happened and I’m confident Bush will not grant them a pardon. He rarely commutes sentences, and he is in bed with Mexico. He is far too sympathetic to the plight of the poor desert wandering pregnant woman looking for a better world. To hell with corruption, crime and disease, right?
Let me ‘splain you someteen:
Not long ago there was a tour bus crash in Mexico. There were two buses, one rolled down the cliff, the other didn’t. A coworker of mine knows this well because his mother was on the bus that didn’t crash. Several people died, others wre hospitalized in Mexico with major injuries. Here’s the fun part: the hospital called the employer of the passengers (A Texas school district) and said (I paraphrase): “Everyone at the hospital is fine. But we aren’t going to operate or start setting any bones until we get some money wired to us.” I think the amount ended up to be around $30k.
My blood boiled when I heard this story, and it is 100% true. This is pure extortion: we paid them the money while about 10% of Mexico’s population is leeching off of our medical system? And GWB wants to leave the border alone and make nicey nice with Mexico?
Screw him and that stubborn horse he rode in on. Ramos & Compean deserve better, but it will probably not happen until Obama get’s the chance. (I hear Emmanuel is sympathetic to the case).
cannonball on December 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM
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