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	<title>Comments on: Heart-ache: NYT revenue down 20% in November</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vicki Iseman files $27 million lawsuit against NYT over McCain hit piece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vicki Iseman files $27 million lawsuit against NYT over McCain hit piece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] good news? Given their revenue trend, they might be judgment-proof by now. The 36-page complaint charges that the story implies an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ex-Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth sells.

Any questions NYT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth sells.</p>
<p>Any questions NYT?</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like To Post About Today &#8230;.. (122708, Morning)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like To Post About Today &#8230;.. (122708, Morning)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nov. Real Consumer Spending Increase Sets 3-Year Record; Biz Press Stays Downbeat&#8221; &#8211; Allah at Hot Air &#8212; &#8220;Heart-ache: NYT revenue down 20% in November.&#8221; (Awwwwwww.) &#8211; Michelle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nov. Real Consumer Spending Increase Sets 3-Year Record; Biz Press Stays Downbeat&#8221; &#8211; Allah at Hot Air &#8212; &#8220;Heart-ache: NYT revenue down 20% in November.&#8221; (Awwwwwww.) &#8211; Michelle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WSJ reports today that the Times is considering selling their 17% ownership in the Boston Red Sox.  I didn&#039;t know they had that.  For those who don&#039;t already hate the Sox, here&#039;s a new and compelling reason to root against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WSJ reports today that the Times is considering selling their 17% ownership in the Boston Red Sox.  I didn&#8217;t know they had that.  For those who don&#8217;t already hate the Sox, here&#8217;s a new and compelling reason to root against them.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkCurrent</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkCurrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus, not only are we seeing papers suffer, but weâ€™re seeing many of them completely going out of business.

ericdondero on December 25, 2008 at 7:46 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s just unbearably sad...  *wipes away a tear*

/sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus, not only are we seeing papers suffer, but weâ€™re seeing many of them completely going out of business.</p>
<p>ericdondero on December 25, 2008 at 7:46 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s just unbearably sad&#8230;  *wipes away a tear*</p>
<p>/sarc</p>
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		<title>By: LenSp1</title>
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		<dc:creator>LenSp1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big killer for the papers from the Internet is Craigslist etal.  Classifieds paid the bills.  Add in the auto industry ills, and you lose another major advertiser.  Real estate was the third major ad payer for the newspapers.  

To make things worse, the Newsday lies about circulation has made advertisers seriously doubt the circulation numbers of all papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big killer for the papers from the Internet is Craigslist etal.  Classifieds paid the bills.  Add in the auto industry ills, and you lose another major advertiser.  Real estate was the third major ad payer for the newspapers.  </p>
<p>To make things worse, the Newsday lies about circulation has made advertisers seriously doubt the circulation numbers of all papers.</p>
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		<title>By: ddrintn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddrintn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the NYT is going to be extinct any time soon, either. I would like for CNN to go down the toilet, though. This is from a story telling us how much we love Barack, since  80% or so of us &quot;approve of how he&#039;s handling the transition&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The bad news for Obama: History shows that presidents usually start to lose support once they assume office and start making the tough decisions. &lt;strong&gt;But with eight in 10 currently approving of Obama, he can give away 20 or 30 points and still have a majority of the country on his side.&lt;/strong&gt; That&#039;s a reservoir of good will that may help him get things done in his first few months on the job,&quot; Holland said.&lt;/blockquote&gt; These people are un-friggin&#039;-believable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the NYT is going to be extinct any time soon, either. I would like for CNN to go down the toilet, though. This is from a story telling us how much we love Barack, since  80% or so of us &#8220;approve of how he&#8217;s handling the transition&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The bad news for Obama: History shows that presidents usually start to lose support once they assume office and start making the tough decisions. <strong>But with eight in 10 currently approving of Obama, he can give away 20 or 30 points and still have a majority of the country on his side.</strong> That&#8217;s a reservoir of good will that may help him get things done in his first few months on the job,&#8221; Holland said.</p></blockquote>
<p> These people are un-friggin&#8217;-believable.</p>
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		<title>By: mytralman</title>
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		<dc:creator>mytralman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the NYT will not die. The brand is still strong but management has been weak, or so many believe. Either the paper will go private, or the stock structure could change to allow it to be bought. Whoever buys it may continue to use it for leftist propaganda, but maybe less so to attract some more rightward readers, that is if some less than Marxist persona puts up the cash, say Bloomberg, my own prime candidate. Pinch screwed the greatest source of news and analysis in my lifetime by making it just a mere conduit for his lousy world view. The editorial in 2007 advocating the acceptance of genocide to accomplish a headlong retreat from Iraq was a low point in print journalism and in human decency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the NYT will not die. The brand is still strong but management has been weak, or so many believe. Either the paper will go private, or the stock structure could change to allow it to be bought. Whoever buys it may continue to use it for leftist propaganda, but maybe less so to attract some more rightward readers, that is if some less than Marxist persona puts up the cash, say Bloomberg, my own prime candidate. Pinch screwed the greatest source of news and analysis in my lifetime by making it just a mere conduit for his lousy world view. The editorial in 2007 advocating the acceptance of genocide to accomplish a headlong retreat from Iraq was a low point in print journalism and in human decency.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is a really good chance the Times will be in bankruptcy by Christmas 09 (who says there is no Santa Claus?) and there is an excellent chance that Pinch will have to start a new career (probably one that requires him to wear a paper hat and ask if you want fries) there really is no chance the Times will close down. The name is just too valuable. But with some luck the new owners will take it toward the center in an effort to broaden itâ€™s appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is a really good chance the Times will be in bankruptcy by Christmas 09 (who says there is no Santa Claus?) and there is an excellent chance that Pinch will have to start a new career (probably one that requires him to wear a paper hat and ask if you want fries) there really is no chance the Times will close down. The name is just too valuable. But with some luck the new owners will take it toward the center in an effort to broaden itâ€™s appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojave Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojave Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Heh. Great call. Allah should create a new headline graphic for newspaper post mortem - a dead fish, laying on the front page of the NYT. Jaibones on December 25, 2008 at 2:42 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Let&#039;s make a headline for the last day of the paper. Here&#039;s my humble suggestion.

&lt;strike&gt;God&lt;/strike&gt; New York Times Is Dead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heh. Great call. Allah should create a new headline graphic for newspaper post mortem &#8211; a dead fish, laying on the front page of the NYT. Jaibones on December 25, 2008 at 2:42 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s make a headline for the last day of the paper. Here&#8217;s my humble suggestion.</p>
<p><strike>God</strike> New York Times Is Dead</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treason doth never prosper...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treason doth never prosper&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: factoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>factoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New York Times is not the only media company hurting. Shares of News Corporation, owner of The Wall Street Journal and Fox, started out the year at $21.25. Yesterday they could be had for $8.91, down 58% for the year.

Just another useless factoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times is not the only media company hurting. Shares of News Corporation, owner of The Wall Street Journal and Fox, started out the year at $21.25. Yesterday they could be had for $8.91, down 58% for the year.</p>
<p>Just another useless factoid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  Great call.  Allah should create a new headline graphic for newspaper post mortem - a dead fish, laying on the front page of the NYT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  Great call.  Allah should create a new headline graphic for newspaper post mortem &#8211; a dead fish, laying on the front page of the NYT.</p>
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		<title>By: FlatFoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlatFoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to use raw meat in the headline referencing the NYT, you really ought to use a dead fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to use raw meat in the headline referencing the NYT, you really ought to use a dead fish.</p>
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		<title>By: NYT revenue down 20% in November - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYT revenue down 20% in November - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]     Some how I can endure the suffering at the NYT with a smile on my face&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..   Hot Air Blog Archive Heart-ache: NYT revenue down 20% in November Ad revenue at the publisher’s New York Times Media Group, which includes the Times newspaper, fell [...]</p>
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		<title>By: doriangrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>doriangrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the NTSlimes go under, good riddance to bad rubbish. If they were a decent paper instead of a Pravda I would be lamenting their hardship, but they&#039;re not. They are a bunch of treasonous socialist elitist punks. They cant die soon enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the NTSlimes go under, good riddance to bad rubbish. If they were a decent paper instead of a Pravda I would be lamenting their hardship, but they&#8217;re not. They are a bunch of treasonous socialist elitist punks. They cant die soon enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Aw gee! Does this mean Iâ€™ll now have to look to the Chicago Tribune as my new source for bird cage bottom liner?

pilamaye on December 24, 2008 at 5:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that&#039;s snark, it&#039;s really good snark.  If not, then ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-081208tribune-bankruptcy,0,3718621.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dude&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Aw gee! Does this mean Iâ€™ll now have to look to the Chicago Tribune as my new source for bird cage bottom liner?</p>
<p>pilamaye on December 24, 2008 at 5:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>If that&#8217;s snark, it&#8217;s really good snark.  If not, then &#8230; <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-081208tribune-bankruptcy,0,3718621.story" rel="nofollow">dude</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry Christmas, everyone, (and you know who you are)

&lt;blockquote&gt;The blogosphere, much of which piggybacks on traditional journalismâ€™s content, has magnified the reach of newspapers, and although papers now face far more scrutiny, this is a kind of backhanded compliment to their continued relevance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is exactly right.  I have personally read more of the NYT in the past year - all from HotAir links - than in my previous 40 years of life.  The New Yorker doesn&#039;t seem willing to clearly explain why, and it&#039;s not rocket science:  the good majority of Allah&#039;s links to the NYT are mocking.  So, as often as not I think, we are reading the Times more, only to laugh at them, and doing it all for free.  This is not a healthy business model.

To be sure - I&#039;m certain there are hundreds of blogs that link the Times as a supporting source for their arguments, too, and this doesn&#039;t make NYT a penny more than our mockery does.

Bottom line:  good riddens.  And &lt;strong&gt;give me October 10th in the pool&lt;/strong&gt;, after the 3rd Quarter 2009 earnings report shows them bleeding red ink like a stuck pig, and two years of desperate moves to stanch the flow show no results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry Christmas, everyone, (and you know who you are)</p>
<blockquote><p>The blogosphere, much of which piggybacks on traditional journalismâ€™s content, has magnified the reach of newspapers, and although papers now face far more scrutiny, this is a kind of backhanded compliment to their continued relevance.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is exactly right.  I have personally read more of the NYT in the past year &#8211; all from HotAir links &#8211; than in my previous 40 years of life.  The New Yorker doesn&#8217;t seem willing to clearly explain why, and it&#8217;s not rocket science:  the good majority of Allah&#8217;s links to the NYT are mocking.  So, as often as not I think, we are reading the Times more, only to laugh at them, and doing it all for free.  This is not a healthy business model.</p>
<p>To be sure &#8211; I&#8217;m certain there are hundreds of blogs that link the Times as a supporting source for their arguments, too, and this doesn&#8217;t make NYT a penny more than our mockery does.</p>
<p>Bottom line:  good riddens.  And <strong>give me October 10th in the pool</strong>, after the 3rd Quarter 2009 earnings report shows them bleeding red ink like a stuck pig, and two years of desperate moves to stanch the flow show no results.</p>
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		<title>By: terryannonline</title>
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		<dc:creator>terryannonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Name a major media player which supported Obama et al and didnâ€™t lose audience share.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To be honest I sure there are a bunch of small town newspapers across the country that are struggling to survive and probably didn&#039;t even support a candidate. Most of what is causing the newspaper business problems is just the fact that people are getting their news from elsewhere. However, in The New Times case bias might be playing a very small factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Name a major media player which supported Obama et al and didnâ€™t lose audience share.</p></blockquote>
<p>To be honest I sure there are a bunch of small town newspapers across the country that are struggling to survive and probably didn&#8217;t even support a candidate. Most of what is causing the newspaper business problems is just the fact that people are getting their news from elsewhere. However, in The New Times case bias might be playing a very small factor.</p>
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		<title>By: jon1979</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon1979</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You knowâ€¦â€¦â€¦.. after looking at that picture, the first thing that came to mind was kinda creepyâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ incest.

Donâ€™t worry, Soros will ensure the bailout with our moneyâ€¦. and then control the propaganda as teh Ghey old lady.

Seven Percent Solution on December 24, 2008 at 7:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pinch&#039;s dad had his own affair back in the 1950s, producing (according to &quot;The Trust&quot;, a bio of the Sulzbergers) a son who was completely disowned by the family. So the adultery thing apparently, like the paper itself, has been passed down from the previous generation.

The problem for newspapers like The Times today is the bigger a story is, the less proprietary it is, and people have literally hundreds of options via other publications, TV and the internet to get the news. It&#039;s only when you get down to the very local level -- where this news story or that may only be of interest to a certain group of readers -- that newspapers aren&#039;t threatened with alternative coverage, even if a small story may develop into something big later.

The Times&#039; problem is it&#039;s staffed by a group of reporters who for the most part, think that because they work at The Times they only need to cover the big stories, which is why the paper&#039;s N.Y. Metro effort always seems half-hearted compared to the city&#039;s tabloids (and finding metro reporters who want to stay metro, instead of going to D.C. or overseas, is usually the exception, not the rule). And the paper, led by Pinch, seems to think blurring the line between straight reporting and advocacy journalism is a way to make the paper more &quot;exciting&quot; and lure new readers, mainly because the people they mingle with at Upper West Side cocktail parties like that the slanted Page 1 stories fit their world view.

So the options are to continue going left, alienating over half your potential readership (including those who think the Times is still too far to the right) and becoming basically a money-losing vanity publication kept alive by people like Soros, or going back to more straight reporting, including on less-exciting and more local stories, which might upset the newsroom egos but are ones that aren&#039;t available from a myriad of other locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You knowâ€¦â€¦â€¦.. after looking at that picture, the first thing that came to mind was kinda creepyâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ incest.</p>
<p>Donâ€™t worry, Soros will ensure the bailout with our moneyâ€¦. and then control the propaganda as teh Ghey old lady.</p>
<p>Seven Percent Solution on December 24, 2008 at 7:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Pinch&#8217;s dad had his own affair back in the 1950s, producing (according to &#8220;The Trust&#8221;, a bio of the Sulzbergers) a son who was completely disowned by the family. So the adultery thing apparently, like the paper itself, has been passed down from the previous generation.</p>
<p>The problem for newspapers like The Times today is the bigger a story is, the less proprietary it is, and people have literally hundreds of options via other publications, TV and the internet to get the news. It&#8217;s only when you get down to the very local level &#8212; where this news story or that may only be of interest to a certain group of readers &#8212; that newspapers aren&#8217;t threatened with alternative coverage, even if a small story may develop into something big later.</p>
<p>The Times&#8217; problem is it&#8217;s staffed by a group of reporters who for the most part, think that because they work at The Times they only need to cover the big stories, which is why the paper&#8217;s N.Y. Metro effort always seems half-hearted compared to the city&#8217;s tabloids (and finding metro reporters who want to stay metro, instead of going to D.C. or overseas, is usually the exception, not the rule). And the paper, led by Pinch, seems to think blurring the line between straight reporting and advocacy journalism is a way to make the paper more &#8220;exciting&#8221; and lure new readers, mainly because the people they mingle with at Upper West Side cocktail parties like that the slanted Page 1 stories fit their world view.</p>
<p>So the options are to continue going left, alienating over half your potential readership (including those who think the Times is still too far to the right) and becoming basically a money-losing vanity publication kept alive by people like Soros, or going back to more straight reporting, including on less-exciting and more local stories, which might upset the newsroom egos but are ones that aren&#8217;t available from a myriad of other locations.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Christmas Challenge&lt;/b&gt;

Name a major media player which supported Obama et al and didn&#039;t lose audience share.

Can&#039;t do it? ok, try this:

Name a major media player which retained some real sense of journalistic balance during the last election and didn&#039;t gain audience share?

Can&#039;t do that either can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Christmas Challenge</b></p>
<p>Name a major media player which supported Obama et al and didn&#8217;t lose audience share.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t do it? ok, try this:</p>
<p>Name a major media player which retained some real sense of journalistic balance during the last election and didn&#8217;t gain audience share?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t do that either can you?</p>
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		<title>By: paragon27x</title>
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		<dc:creator>paragon27x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drjohn on December 25, 2008 at 7:58 AM

Perfect... Now I know what to chant while doing my dance on that grave.

Thank You!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drjohn on December 25, 2008 at 7:58 AM</p>
<p>Perfect&#8230; Now I know what to chant while doing my dance on that grave.</p>
<p>Thank You!</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote an Obama confidant: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Dead dead dead dead dead&quot;&lt;/em&gt;


And the sooner the better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote an Obama confidant: <em>&#8220;Dead dead dead dead dead&#8221;</em></p>
<p>And the sooner the better</p>
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		<title>By: ericdondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericdondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line of reasoning that this may somehow be a good thing for the papers, is flawed.  What about all the layoffs?  They are laying off people left and right, and with less staff on hand, their product will begin to suffer, thus making the product even less valuable, not even valuable as a non-profit reference.  

Plus, not only are we seeing papers suffer, but we&#039;re seeing many of them completely going out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line of reasoning that this may somehow be a good thing for the papers, is flawed.  What about all the layoffs?  They are laying off people left and right, and with less staff on hand, their product will begin to suffer, thus making the product even less valuable, not even valuable as a non-profit reference.  </p>
<p>Plus, not only are we seeing papers suffer, but we&#8217;re seeing many of them completely going out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: ericdondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericdondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is a nice Christmas gift.  Best one on the Right (libertarian/conservative), could ever hope for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is a nice Christmas gift.  Best one on the Right (libertarian/conservative), could ever hope for.</p>
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