Now they tell us: GOP pols, pollsters grumbling about McCain’s misuse of Palin
posted at 3:40 pm on December 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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For the second time this week, I’m forced to begin a post about McCain with that line from “The Wedding Singer”: This information really would’ve been more useful to us yesterday.
The occasion is this passage from Sarahcuda’s “conservative of the year” interview with Human Events:
Now I have all the faith in the world in Sen. McCain and his family. But some of the folks around him I did not know, and so it was a kind of a risky thing for me to put my faith in the decisions they were making on my behalf.
As an administrator, as a chief executive of a state, I am not used to that. I am used to proving my abilities by calling the shots. Then I know the buck stops with me. I made the decisions, and I’m responsible. When others are making decisions for me, as they were in the campaign, and I am the one to live with the fallout from the decisions that were made on my behalf, that is something I am not very comfortable with…
But my reliance on seeking God’s direction in all that I do — that is good enough for me. And others who have a different worldview and different strategy on messaging and such, I would like to have the opportunity to prove to them that my gut instincts were going to be quite adequate.
And right on cue, via U.S. News & World Report, the pile-on begins:
Now I’m hearing from key Republicans on Capitol Hill and GOP pollsters who believe that the McCain campaign should have put her out to talk about energy and political independence—her two best issues—instead of making her the conservative attack dog.
Said one pollster: “The McCain campaign took this person and completely botched her assets.” What’s more, the pollster said that in Palin, the McCain campaign had an expert on one of the key issues that was on the minds of Americans: energy prices. “They should have used her knowledge and focus on her expertise.” And the pollster said on background that the campaign should have played up her reputation as a political maverick.
They did emphasize the maverick stuff — it became an element of Fey’s character on SNL — but between her having to play the bad guy by beating up Obama and being painted by the media as a religious nut, it ended up submerged in a narrative of Palin as rabid party apparatchik. As for energy, she talked about that too (most memorably at the debate with “drill, baby, drill”) but I agree that it was never as prominent as it should have been. I remember writing the day she was picked that oil would be “her issue” on the trail and then the next day that she’d be the point man on energy policy. It never really felt that way. Palinmania was about biography and charisma; maybe it would have been different if they had her giving speeches on oil right out of the chute to impress the public with her experience, but between the Couric interview and the fact that energy had faded as a key issue by the time the financial crisis hit (if not earlier), I doubt it would have made a difference in the election — although it might have made a difference in her credibility with independents now.
Exit question: Why the anonymous sources on this one? If you’re going to dump on McCain and praise the party’s new star, you might as well get full credit.
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I’m sick of anonymous sources.
BadgerHawk on December 23, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Were you a Palin fan, AP?
I think you were, but I’m not sure.
VolMagic on December 23, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I honestly think she would have done better if she were running the campaign and Maverick and his advisers were off playing golf somewhere.
lodge on December 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM
McCain basically used her. Gov. Palin proved to be a good team player. She gave up autonomy to a legion of McCain suckups who had little regard for her.
She landed on her feet; McCain landed on his head. Now he’s back to sucking Democrat toes and she’s ready to make waves.
I think the her comeback story will prove to be just as compelling as her debut on the national scene.
She just needs to stop talking about the interviews-gone-bad. Move on ‘Cuda. Lots of people are ready to follow.
The Race Card on December 23, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Some of my bud’s think that even McCain was in the bag for Obama. That he picked Palin because McCain is NOT a conservative, and therefore thought she was a sure loser, then had to sabatoge her just to make sure they would lose. And nobody can prove me wrong.
JustTruth101 on December 23, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Just like all the MSM jackasses admitting after the election they were biased for Obama and against any republican. Screw them. They are not forgiven. They’ll do the exact same thing in 2012 and they will exhibit bias throughout Obama’s term.
Blake on December 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Gov Palin wanted to win this election,…McCain not so much!
Palin 2012!
So looking forward to liberals foaming at the mouth.
christene on December 23, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Palin 2012.
Firebird on December 23, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Can we say Duh?
McCain never talked about energy after putting her on stage. He was a jerk off all around.
And people here defended it. Heh.
lorien1973 on December 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Submitted for (partial) comment of the day.
For reasons I can’t explain coherently, I believe the Bush 43 gang are the most happy about McCain losing.
Much as I despise what America did to herself, and much as I believe she will deserve all she has coming, I don’t feel sorry for the McCain loss either, and the sentiment gets stronger by the days.
Entelechy on December 23, 2008 at 3:57 PM
the only thing Palin has to throw off is being associated with the McCain campaign and then she will be free at last. It is under the bus time for McCain.
Done That on December 23, 2008 at 3:58 PM
More specifically to the “energy” topic – we are a nation with the attention span of gnats.
Entelechy on December 23, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I cringe at the thought of the people he’d put in his cabinet in a futile effort to reach out to democrats.
lorien1973 on December 23, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Neither am I…………….
……………. Plain 2012!
Seven Percent Solution on December 23, 2008 at 4:01 PM
good point but independents/moderates tend to vote on such important issues as the color of one candidate’s bumper sticker and which candidate is “kool”
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:01 PM
“Can she come back? One who thinks yes is McCain’s own pollster, Bill McInturff, who says, “She will be a major surrogate, a major player.”"
Some people speaks up apparently.
the_nile on December 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM
It wasn’t me, I swear.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I want to support Sarah but since the election all I have seen from her is this victim mentality so many of her generation (which I am a part of) follow. She needs to step away from the mainstream party, name names, and get on with identifying who she truly is. Maybe CPAC will be her coming out party but right now, she is doing nothing to get out of the shadow of being his failed VP candidate.
I like Sarah enough to give her time to do this, but she needs to start moving at a faster clip or she will just remain a crowd favorite but not a serious contender for the actual Presidency.
grdred944 on December 23, 2008 at 4:05 PM
They are former “independents”, lillies, really.
Entelechy on December 23, 2008 at 4:06 PM
The msm/GOP McCainacs basically destroyed Palin’s chances for higher office (other than maybe Senator of Alaska). Just as Newt’s chances were killed by the msm before her…
misterspork on December 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM
She IS a major player — not will be. And until she and her people ram that home to the RNC mothership in DC, she will remain that cute little Republican crowd pleaser.
grdred944 on December 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM
She was too good for him.
Kensington on December 23, 2008 at 4:10 PM
The biggest mistake was cloistering her and then having her first public interviews be so prominent, in such a hostile atmosphere. They should have had her give policy speeches right away–specifically on energy, fiscal discipline, and political independence. And then had her give a series of interviews. With the key being they would be about specific topics. Give her a chance to address her strengths, with the very public admission that she has work to do to get up to speed on foreign policy and some of the more esoteric fiscal issues that we are currently dealing with.
There’s nothing wrong with saying “I don’t know everything. Let’s talk about what I do know right now, and in time we’ll get to those issues where I have to do some cramming.” I think that would have been a refreshing attitude for the public to attach themselves to. And I think the MSM would have had to play along. If not, she certainly could have given first dibs to Fox and Rush. Especially if they had been willing to play fair but hard. They could have taken the time to really drill down on these issues, and shown her for the heavy-weight she is in those realms.
Oh, well. Spilt milk and all that. I hope that she (and other future leaders) takes this to heart and plays full-out for the next few years. She’s got real potential. If she stays visible, and starts developing a well-rounded political philosophy to deal with both the short- and long-term issues this country is facing, she’s got a real chance at running with the big dogs in ‘12 and ‘16.
nukemhill on December 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM
what? … she has not played the victim at all … what are you talking about
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM
they should have done a lot of interviews … and they way they let the interviews get rolled out over 2 days with total editing control by the networks was unforgivable
but that is what you get when you have Nicolle Wallace on your campaign staff
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:15 PM
The mistake was picking Palin in the first place.
Palin was a HUGE turnoff to so many independents and moderate republicans.
I know we can’t stand them but you need them to win. The conservative base isn’t 51 percent.
Palin was a disastrous turnoff to moderates in big cities.
Obama won metropolitan areas an unheard of figure. Her whole image was a disaster for moderates and people in urban areas. The whole only small town people have good values was a disaster.
Palin was also bad in the energy area. I like the drill here drill now policy but it only plays to the base. It was a turnoff to moderates. The key is to win the election and you can’t win the election only playing to hard core conservative rural voters.
Palin was a disaster and she will never hold national public office. She is a huge polorizing figure for moderates.
If you want to get crushed in an election then Palin is your candidate. If you want liberals to dominate the middle of the electorate than Palin is your candidate.
Palin should stick to alaska because she is a disaster in suburban and urban areas in swing states that you need to win. She is a disaster with independents, moderate republicans, conservative democrats.
10 percent of voters thought Palin was ready to be president.
Palin cost McCain many voters. Far more voters said Palin made them less likely to vote for McCain.
Obama was doing poorly with independents before Palin.
Palin has NO FUTURE in national politics. She can run but she will never win because independents avoid her like the plague.
Palin is a curse to the republican party.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I hope she gives a stellar speech at CPAC. Governor, call in some good young conservative speech writer for help. I’m available.
ramrocks on December 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM
But you guys just keep listening to Hannity, and Laura and the rest who told you how swell John McCain was! How can you now be critical? You were shilling for him too because the RNC told you to!
sabbott on December 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM
So now Tina Fey is AP’s entertainer of the year. Hmmmm, wonder why? They’re hoping they’ve sunk the SS Palin. I’m waiting for the rest of the story. Go ‘Cuda!!!!!!!!
littleguy on December 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM
With Sarah Palin’s criticism of McCain’s advisors, one wonders which of them set up the disastrous interviews with Gibson and Couric, full of gotcha questions where her best answers were edited out. Couldn’t they have told Palin that’s what the MSM does to Republicans?
Sarah Palin didn’t become the youngest and the first female Governor of Alaska by letting others tell her what to do and say, but by clearly saying what she means and running her own show. She’s smart and quick on her feet when given the chance–her debate with Biden clearly showed that! Let Sarah be Sarah, and let her follow her God and her guts.
Isn’t that what Reagan did?
Steve Z on December 23, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Moderate women will never vote for Palin. She is a huge turnoff for them.
People in suburbs and inner cities view Palin as an extremist hick.
She is a disaster.
If your goal is to have Obama stack the supreme court with liberal justices than Palin is great.
For CPAC and Human Events to love her is hurting the cause of conservatives.
Palin is a personality cult that can’t get elected. If you care about conservative policies than Palin is a disaster because she hands liberal democrats victory on a silver platter.
Palin shrinks the voter pool for republicans. You need a candidate like Reagan who can appeal to conservative democrats, independents, moderate republicans.
The left wants Palin to stay as the face of the republican party because they know Palin lets liberals dominate the middle.
The worst part about Palin she takes votes from your side and gives them to the most liberal candiate like Obama.
Palin should get out of national politics because she only helps liberal candidates dominate the middle.
Stay in Alaska.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:22 PM
And your an liberal idiot stuck in a tower in the middle of suburban nightmares.
But hey, I am only pointing out the obvious.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM
I replied …
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM
There, that’s better.
Thanks for the DU talking points. I think I once tried to reason with you, but obviously you have no desire to listen to reason.
So please go do what Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy to do.
ramrocks on December 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Is Palin writing a book?
Because if so, she needs to expose the pathetic campaign of McLame and his team. They mishandled her and defamed her out of pure spite and jealousy.
I believe that McCain and his co-horts were extremely jealous of Palin and annoyed at the attention she received. This was suppose to be McLame’s shining moment, but he was dim bulb. Since the campaign ended, the anonymous sources (McLame, Gramnesty, Salter, and maybe Lieberman) wanted to blame her.
Seeing McCain on the national level campaigning, it was really a sad sight to see. Coulter was right, it was like seeing a car crash in slow motion.
Palin was the spark that got the campaign going.
I blame McCain for his handling of the financial crisis, not the crisis itself, for our loss. He is a lousy candidate: erratic, unprincipled in political philosphy, and an appeaser to the MSM and liberals. How the hell did he win his senate seat in Arizona for so many years?!
jencab on December 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM
LMFAO have you ever been to Alaska? Or are you the type who can’t stand the “woods” even when you are looking at 3 trees?
I am curious where you live there…. ryan.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Dude, heard it all before. Not true. Click your heels three times and go back to mother ship, pleassssse.
littleguy on December 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Honestly… Veterans. Who won’t be voting anymore for him.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Nicolle Wallace was in charge of her media strategy.
meltenn on December 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Hey, ryandan, haven’t seen you for a while!
Got a favor to ask – could you maybe change up the wording a little bit, instead of copying and pasting the same crappy posts you always do?
Jim62sch on December 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM
1/20/13, the swearing in of a Patriot and the first woman POTUS! That would be Sarah Palin for all you Hillary supporters.
kirkill on December 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Well said. Keeping her from the Media in the beginning was the dumbest thing I’ve seen done in Politics in oh, probably, my life?
After she came out so strong and so positive after her speech at the convention….heh
To quote John O’sullivan
Dritanian on December 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Did you see Palin say the bailout would help out healthcare.
She is lost.
She also has a huge temper. Did you see her e-mails. She had temper tantrums throughout the campaign.
Did you see her doodles.
The 6 collages. The pregnant daughter and future mother in law druggy.
Palin thought dinosaurs were around with humans.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM
we have a winner!
the RNC should get a court order stating that she stay away from any Republican candidate
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM
I completely disagree. I’m very much an independent voter. I love her. She got played by internal politics and the MSM. If she’d gone the route I suggest above, I think moderates and independents would have seen her for who she is–a very religious (not a deal breaker for me), very independent, energy-smart, lady with a strong sense of fiscal discipline. If she’d been out there, swinging for the fences, I think middle-of-the-road Americans would have fallen in love with her.
She didn’t need to be perfect. She just needed to be authentic. There’s an enormous difference, and the public can see that. It would have been a ridiculously refreshing change. And Maverick could have quietly gone along for the ride. And the MSM would have been sh*tting their pants the entire time.
They would have had no clue how to deal with her. As it was, the way the campaign unfolded gave the MSM a chance to circle their wagons and pour it on. The campaign played defense, instead of offense. That’s a sure way to lose in politics.
nukemhill on December 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Okay, I signed up. I’ll mess with my profile this evening. Too cool.
Rock on, fellow Palintorian!
ramrocks on December 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM
ryandan @4:22
You have just broke the record for being the dumbest poster ever to show their intellectually dishonest ignorance on the board. I bet your miother regrets every day that you were not aborted. Take your insanity to the Daily Koz where those like you reinforce each other into believing their IQs don’t actually begin with decimel points.
volsense on December 23, 2008 at 4:29 PM
After McCain won the republican primary by getting the most votes from republicans he ceased to be one of the candidates to choose from and became the republican nominee. At that point, it was down to a single choice between two people. McCain, and then Obama, after his battle with Hillary was finally concluded. The fact that people were unable to figure out this basic concept for the life of me has frustrated me to no end. It was completely illogical. Completely self-destructive and has done worse harm fro within than any attack on his from liberals that came from without. It was and still is mind-boggling that they couldn’t figure out that what ever other disagreements they had – it was down to a democrat or a republican for the office of president of the United States. And the consequences from this division that contributed to this defeat.
And just as republicans could be critical of Bush when he wanted his personal lawyer to be on the supreme court, we could have been critical of a president McCain in regards to amnesty, and challenged and defeated any effort he might have brought up in the future. There was no shilling for McCain – again – when the choice was between him and Obama. And now, what option will we get to affect any change with Obama? None. As a democrat, he can do whatever he wants when conservatives complain about his choice for supreme court. What has been done to McCain as people like you have sought to bring us all down is nothing more than far worse than what the liberals have done. Because this was to defeat the candidate from the inside. You have to make up all sorts of crap about McCain that isn’t true just to justify your own ignorance and bias against him. And now we’ve all got President Obama for 4 or 8 years. And I hope that you are all so very proud of yourselves.
wise_man on December 23, 2008 at 4:29 PM
We have some Cheney advice for ya
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Gotta link?
And why don’t you answer questions? Oh that is right… you are complete fodder for the pigs!
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:29 PM
RNC huh… interesting.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Ah. I guess I replied to a troll. Never mind then.
nukemhill on December 23, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Wow … its like the Dodgers landing Manny Ramirez and watching the Red Sox pay for it
bwahaha
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Did you see the Couric interview? Only Palin could be punked by that nitwit Couric.
Palin was lost on even what the bailout was.
The way Palin used her hands talking about Putin’s head popping up.
She is a complete moron. Stop with the winks also.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:31 PM
LOL! As the saying goes: Mock the devil that he may flee from you.
ramrocks on December 23, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Just ignore ryandan. He shows up here every once in a while on a Palin thread and copy/pastes the exact same three or four posts. I think the material was originally written by Axelrod’s brain-damaged cousin.
Jim62sch on December 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM
I was getting at that Wallace should not be allowed within 100 yards of a Republican candidate
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Hey Stool,
Did your mother have any children that lived?
thomasaur on December 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM
yes … don’t feed the trolls
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Palin isn’t even conservative in areas that should count.
She is a personality cult.
Palin was for the bailout.
Palin is for amnesty for illegals.
She is a personality cult that is a curse on the party.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Passed it on…: o )
christene on December 23, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Ahh but the RNC?
Dude, you and I need to talk. And get some more “blog feeds” on your blog.
Try Alaska Townhall… not redstate. Redstate has more democratic Alaskans.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:37 PM
This rings true! He wanted to loose with dignity and honor….well, he definitely lost….
liquidflorian on December 23, 2008 at 4:37 PM
John McVain has been the Manchurian Candidate since 2000. His hatred of conservatives was his driving force to make sure that they were going to remember him for screwing him and selecting GWB in 2000.
Little minds have a difficult time dealing with multiple idea threads at the same time.
belad on December 23, 2008 at 4:37 PM
I don’t follow
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:38 PM
… and speaking of “little minds.” Again, and it’s sad to see this derangement from within our own party/other conservatives who seek to destroy someone else to fuel their own idocy.
wise_man on December 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM
How could he talk about energy? He’s a liberal when it comes to such things….no drilling, cap and trade, global warming. That’s who he is. He didn’t talk more about energy for the same reason he didn’t talk about illegal immigration….because he’s on the wrong side of both issues.
xblade on December 23, 2008 at 4:43 PM
I am trying to say that the Republican national committee should never allow Wallace on another campaign
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:44 PM
you have mail
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM
ROTFLMAO!
Okay, Allah, the jig is up. This is you, isn’t it?
This has got to be an Allah sock-puppet because it’s too hilarious to be true. It’s the perfect caricature of a Daily Kos moron, and this “person” conveniently stops by to visit a Palin post on a day when you expect low hit counts because of the holidays.
ramrocks on December 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM
McCain wanted to use her for his sake but when the consev. went wild over her and she was out drawing McCain 10 to 1 McCain got mad and very petty.He wanted to put her in her place.After all he was John McCain the medias darling.Now he and his people and the rest of the old boy Rep network are out to destory her.This will not work she is the future McCain and the rest of the mod.old farts are yesterdays news.
thmcbb on December 23, 2008 at 4:47 PM
xblade, wrong McCain is for offshore drilling.
McCain is for drilling in the shales out west.
Obama will stop drilling off virginia’s coast.
Obama and Salazar will stop drilling in the shales in colorado.
Obama will restrict drilling by the BLM all over the west.
And on immigration. McCain is for building the fence. Obama is against building the fence.
Obama says ICE agents who arrest illegals are terrorizing them. Obama will stop all ICE raids.
There are huge differences in the judges they would appoint and how they deal with these issues.
xblade you are one of those so called conservatives who pretended that there weren’t huge differences between Obama and McCain.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM
post of the day
joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM
LMFAO wanna prove THAT little sentence?
I bet ya can’t!
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:50 PM
You’re not being subtle enough.
Even if trolling at the proper speed, you need to be throwing out fresh chum or you will get few bites.
Just trying to help.
Itchee Dryback on December 23, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Palin turned off so many moderates who were going to vote for McCain but were so turned off by Palin they voted for Obama who they didn’t even like.
Hillary supporters that didn’t like Obama voted for him because of Palin.
Moderate women will vote for a conservative male but they will NEVER vote for a conservative female.
Palin does not play well in metropolitan areas. Rural areas only accounted for 19 percent of the vote.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:53 PM
So why are you scared of Sarah?
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Palin shrinks the vote totals for republicans.
If you want to lose independent votes than palin is your candidate.
Palin has a very vocal cult personality following who account for 10 percent of the electorate.
Palin can’t build a coalition to get elected nationally.
Why can’t her supporters understand that?
Team Sarah supporters are politically tone deaf that they can’t see how unelectable she is.
Palin should not go to CPAC. Palin should stay in Alaska. Enough already.
Haven’t you caused enough damage Palin by electing Obama and letting him stack the supreme court with liberals.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Again.. WHY are you scared of Palin?
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Right on, brother! This country needs a PILF.
factoid on December 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
With the exception of his decision to run with Gov. Palin, McCain never seemed to really want the nomination. He came off as tired and sort of just in it because he was expected to. I can’t help but think that 4 years of McCain might have actually been worse than 4 of New Savior.
++100
GrayDog on December 23, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I’m scared of Palin because she is what enables marxists like Obama to be elected.
I’m scared of Palin because she is what allows the most liberal senator Obama to get 60 percent of the independent vote.
I’m scared of Palin because she is such a turnoff with moderates that we are left with a filibuster proof senate with snowe from maine, pelosi and Obama.
Palin is actually the worst thing to ever happen to conservatism.
She is such a turnoff to moderates that Palin helps elect marxists who will destroy conservatism.
Palin is a curse for the pro life movement.
Now Obama will pick at least 6 abortionist judges.
Now Obama will sign legislation making it illegal for states to have any legislation restricting abortion.
Now Obama will make ANWR a federally protected area.
Obama will destroy conservatism forever with a filibuster proof senate.
I am scared that Palin can’t see the damage she does when she said to Greta I am prepared to plow through the door in 2012 or 2016.
Wake up Sarah, 10 percent of the electorate said you were ready to be president. You have zero percent chance of ever winning on a national ticket. You are a huge turnoff and you are too dense too see it.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM
ummmm, seriously. Ever think it was McCain who lost the election because voters didn’t like him. Not because of Sarah.
Wow, not wound to tight are we.
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 5:04 PM
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM
You haven’t answered upinak so I’ll ask you, too. Why are you so scared of Sarah Palin? I read your list, but you did not answer the question.
kingsjester on December 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM
A Moderate ran for President as a Republican. He lost the election. He proved you can not win an election running as Democrat-Lite.
kingsjester on December 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaaa. More toxic waste. They’re coming to take you away, Ha Ha Ho Ho, to the funny farm where life is lovely all day long, Ha Ha Ho Ho. Fear not, electro shock has at least a 10% success rate.
littleguy on December 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM
upinak, I can’t tell you how many focus groups I read about moderate voters who voted for Bush and were going to vote for McCain until he picked Palin.
Obama in some polls was getting 28 percent of the independent vote before Palin and wound up getting 60 percent.
The internal RNC polling and other internal polling showed McCain falling off the cliff of support from suburban women after the Palin pick.
Palin lost the election. Moderates viewed her as a extremist hick from Alaska.
McCain didn’t lose the election. Moderates didn’t vote for McCain because of Palin.
Palin was a disaster in Florida.
Palin was a disaster with people that thought she had no experience.
Palin was a disaster with Clinton supporters who were going to vote for McCain but Palin turned them off so much they voted for Obama.
Palin was a disaster with everybody but the huckabee crowd.
Worst part of all Palin is a double hit because she takes voters away from you and gives them to Obama.
McCain lost metropolitan areas 65-33 an unheard of number. That goes right to Palin and her only small towns have the right values.
McCain in mid august was his strongest when Obama was at 41 percent in reuters poll.
Palin became the issue not Obama which was another terrible effect of McCain picking her.
Polls taken showed McCain would have done much better had he not picked Palin.
19 percent of voters said Palin made them more likely to support McCain while 31 percent said less likely.
With Palin McCain lost 53-46 in a CNN poll and without Palin 52-48.
Palin prepared to be VP was 35 percent yes while 59 percent no.
Palin prepared to be president was 10 percent yes.
She was a disaster in every possible aspect. Her supporters were the huckabee supporters. McCain was going to win the deep south anyway. Palin destroyed McCain in suburban and urban areas which make up 81 percent of the electorate. Palin destroyed McCain with moderates.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Jon Stewart, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Tina Fey, and most of all the Democratic Party wholeheartedly agree — we want Sarah Palin in the political limelight at every opportunity.
So… why no put her on Face the Nation, This Week, Meet the Press, and NewsHour instead of those fluff “interviews” with professional flatterers?
benny shakar on December 23, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Hey moderate you lost. Go away and do what moderates do, what ever that is. A moderate is far worse than a liberal, at least you know what a liberal is. A moderate…middle of the road gutless political coward afraid to take a stand.
Big Orange on December 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Yes, give us more bilge! More derangement! Get it all out: its the first step to recovery.
littleguy on December 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM
kings wrong,
McCain had the moderate vote without Palin.
McCain lost the moderate vote with Palin. With Palin McCain lost the moderate vote and was left with the Huckabee crowd and was crushed.
Moderate women will not vote for Palin ever.
Palin’s pick showed how important the independent vote is because when you lose independents they don’t stay home they go to the other candidate so it is a double hit.
Palin showed how small the rural vote is. 19 percent. McCain was crushed by moderate suburban and urban voters because of Palin.
I AM SCARED OF PALIN because I don’t want Obama offering carrots to Iran.
I don’t want Obama picking Scalia’s replacement.
We were at a crossroads on the supreme court with stevens at 88 and Palin will now mean an Obama supreme court for the next 40 years.
If that isn’t scary I don’t know what is.
Palin is an electoral gift to the democrats because it allows liberals to dominate the middle.
I am scared of Palin because she allows marxists like Obama to be elected and do great harm to our country.
Palin is a terrible candidate nationally. Moderates avoid her like the plague. She should stay out of national politics she has done enough damage.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Thats why she is PERFECT.
Big Orange on December 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Big Orange,
I am not a moderate, I am a conservative who wants roberts type judges instead of far leftist marxists we will be stuck with now.
I am a conservative who knows that picking Palin hands the victory to the marxist.
I am a conservative that knows that you need independents to win.
Reagan knew that he had to get independents and reagan democrats.
Just because you know that you need moderates to win doesn’t make you a moderate.
Fine put your head in the sand and pick Palin who turns off moderates and we will be stuck with the most liberal presidents forever.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Big Orange,
I am a conservative that knows that candidates like Palin destroy conservatism because they allow marxists to win.
Any real conservative that cared about the issues wouldn’t like Palin because she is an electoral gift to the democrats.
Now if you don’t care about marxists winning then Palin is your candidate.
If you are for a personality cult and don’t care about the issues then Palin is your candidate.
ryandan on December 23, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Looking at these posts I see we Republicans still have not learned our lesson.
We lost because we were not conservative enough!
Yes Sarah got lots of criticism – this was because she WAS conservative! Imagine if Reagon was running – he would have gotten dumped on bigtime.
Dont be misled by the MSM portrail of Sarah – they did the same to Reagon. It would have been even more magnified today.
Go ahead and pick a RINO like a Huckabee or put up fake conservatives like a Romney or Huckabee and we would have lost EVEN MORE.
But we will never learn.
Obama had far more gaffes – McCain just would not repeat them and so instead our RINO wing loses it for us yet again.
winged on December 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Ryandan , ask axelrod for a new computer , your old one appears to have glitches .
the_nile on December 23, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Doctor Zero on December 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Interesting, I guess I am an Alaskan hick. Get bent, McCain destroyed himself byt not letting Sarah does what she does best. Talk to People!
upinak on December 23, 2008 at 5:42 PM
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joey24007 on December 23, 2008 at 5:43 PM
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