Legalize all drugs and all the porblems that it brings will go away.The war on drugs is maken the drug Cartels rich.Legalize drugs and help the people that are doing them
.LOOK if you dont do drugs and they get legalized are you going to go and get you some dope.No your not the same people that do tham are.I have had to deal with a wife that was hooket on herion for years,She dident stop until herion all most killed her.The Cops put her in jail wear the inmates could rape her. Thats the help you will get from the fat over paid lazy cops.Look at CARE and just say no.

Denniscat on December 24, 2008 at 7:43 AM

case closed…

Talk to professionals at places like Hazeldon before you spout off about how harmless marijuana is! It isn’t but if you want to pump this crap into your brain, fine! We who choose not to shall be three steps ahead of you in life but you won’t care because you won’t know the difference!

Alcohol should never have been made illegal. Like the vast majority of drinkers, I have been drinking since I legally could and have never been drunk. Alcohol is nice that way. One cannot say that about weed or any other illegal substance; one puff or snort or whatever one does and your stoned. I do agree with you about public drunks and driving while drunk, though. Throw their sorry bodies in jail with the stoners.

All intoxicating substances leaves very little wiggle room; lavender growers will now be fugitives!

Bubba Redneck on December 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Your arguments about about alcohol vs. marijuana are hollow.

Marijuana usage doesn’t always lead to getting high. Drinking might not always lead to to drunkeness, but it can, and since you find drunkenness per se to be perfectly acceptable from a legal standpoint, your point about the difference between alcohol and varying degrees of intoxication in regards to it, and marijuana, is moot.

Look how dangerous of a substance alcohol actually is vs. how dangerous you fear marijuana to be. Do you have any idea how many deaths in this country involve alcohol? Shall I go pull out some statistics for you about the % of criminal activity that involves alcohol? If marijuana were made legal, do you have any evidence whatsoever that it would do anywhere near as much damage to society that alcohol currently does? Saying that marijuana should be kept illegal because of its potential harm ignores the white elephant in the room, doesn’t it?

The simple fact is, marijuana is illegal in the US while alcohol isn’t because of a double-standard-alcohol is just more socially accepted i.e. it’s more popular. That is not a good reason. People on the Right are supposed to know better than to make their judgments based on emotion instead of logic. However, in the case of drugs, especially marijuana, prohibitionists are on the side of the controlling, irrational, nanny-state Left, not the free, rational, libertarian Right.

Who ultimately should have more authority about what individual adults ingest into their own bodies, you and the other people who believe you have the right to tell other people what to do with themselves because they cannot/should not be trusted to control themselves, or the individual adults themselves? If you say you and the people who operate like you, I’d like to hear how you define freedom, and explain what ‘pursuit of happiness as an inalienable right’ means to you.

Toss the stoners and the dopeheads in jail where they belong.

Bubba Redneck on December 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Since I dislike boozers more than stoners, I wish they make alcohol illegal again too. Seems fair, right, that users of all intoxicating substances be treated the same?

It’d be great thing to have all of the drunks in jail alongside the potheads. Such useless people are drains on society, and not much else…

Bizarro No. 1 on December 26, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Alcohol should never have been made illegal. Like the vast majority of drinkers, I have been drinking since I legally could and have never been drunk. Alcohol is nice that way. One cannot say that about weed or any other illegal substance; one puff or snort or whatever one does and your stoned. I do agree with you about public drunks and driving while drunk, though. Throw their sorry bodies in jail with the stoners.

All intoxicating substances leaves very little wiggle room; lavender growers will now be fugitives!

And hawkdriver, consider this argument: if you legalize the harder drugs (I’m thinking mainly of cocaine), it’d probably help too. Instead of concentrating it and shipping it to avoid detection, other, less potent forms would be made available. South American workers chew coca leaves all day every day for most of their lives. The crack and coke might just go away for, say, coca gum or drink.

Toss the stoners and the dopeheads in jail where they belong.

Bubba Redneck on December 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Since I dislike boozers more than stoners, I wish they make alcohol illegal again too. Seems fair, right, that users of all intoxicating substances be treated the same?

It’d be great thing to have all of the drunks in jail alongside the potheads. Such useless people are drains on society, and not much else…

Which is why I want first time offenders to be “scared straight” by a bit of time in jail.

unclesmrgol on December 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM

I’m glad he was in that particular jail with those particular people to get that result, not to say I’m glad he had to go to jail to begin with mind you. I bet he isn’t hanging with the same people he used to either. People go back to the same useage habits becuase they go right back with the same crowd. I see it all the time in my little town here.

And he’s not even in office yet?

Wow. I mean . . . insanely HUEG ego.

unclesmrgol on December 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM

I hope your son realizes just how much his Mom and Dad love him and what a great set of parents he has!!!!!!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

Those like

unclesmrgol on December 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM

son who are scared straight will become productive members of our society. Those that do not will be where they belong.

If you wish to smoke or shoot or snort the c#$p then go to the Netherlands.
I hear that even the Dutch are getting sick and tired of the stoners; they are closing more than half of those “coffee shops” in Amsterdam. Hey, Vancouver BC is closer! Although I would not dare venture into east Vancouver alone. Funny how drugs just ruin a place….

/sarc

Excellent post. You are exactly right. There are consequences for actions. As I stated earlier, I lost friends because of the way they changed after frequent pot use. Don’t tell me it is a harmless drug.

Denniscat on December 24, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Very articulate, Skippy. And a Merry Christmas to you, too.

If you want to do drugs, why can’t you go to a psyche (or psychadelic) ward?

Any takers?

Califemme on December 24, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Going to a psyche ward would mean having to drive to get there, which appears to be one of the main arguments by some who don’t want to be on the road with us stoners as we’ve now been labeled regardless of our reasons for using.

Sorry, but when I’m under attack from my occular migraines or need to take the pressure down due to the glaucoma, I prefer the comfort of my living room, in private.

Besides, I’m rarely able to drive anymore.

Any person whose ever lived with or known an addict knows its starts with marijuana. Then what? Put cocaine back in soda?

johnnyU on December 24, 2008 at 9:28 AM

My son got caught using MJ twice at SDSU in the dorms — the first time was dealt with via an abatement program (the liberal dream) — and the second time was arrest by the San Diego (city) police and jail for about 24 hours (until we got bail and sprung him). He was charged with possession with intent to deal (due to the amount he had on him when arrested). He used his one phone call from jail to tell us that if we got him out he would never use the stuff again. He was crying and you could hear the tension in his voice. When we got him out, he said that his cell mate was a heroin user going cold turkey and the guy was screaming all the time. There were meth users and heroin users and drunks and they were all in various stages of the “DT’s” as they dealt with their issues while in the cells. My son witnessed one guy just pulp another for no apparent reason, with the sheriffs trying desperately to tear the aggressor off. And, amazingly, my son kept his promise — which we intrusively monitored with drug tests, where we provided the sample container and personally watched it get filled.

It was the jail that did it — it scared him straight, because he knew that if he couldn’t handle 24 hours of jail, he sure couldn’t handle several years of prison. First time offenders need to visit the jail, not be diverted into out-patient programs. My son laughed at the way he fooled everyone in the diversion program, and has no respect for the people who ran it. He does have respect for us, because we didn’t believe him for one second that his promises amounted to even a small hill of beans. We didn’t give up (even though at some times one or the other of us wanted to), and he understands and respects that too.

As for this behavior having no victims, every person around the abuser is a victim. If they are a kid, they steal from their parents to support their small habit, and steal or deal with others when the habit is larger. They are anti-social with anyone (be it siblings, teachers, or parents) who question why they are no longer achieving at the level they used to. They no longer care about achievement, because achievement means nothing compared to the next high.

All the libertarians here ought to think about who will support the continued abusers after they are finally shunned by their families, and they need to think about it without the blinders which prevent them from seeing all the liberals who will expect the state to feed, clothe, and doctor these people who can no longer take care of themselves. The liberals may not win everything they want, but they will win enough to make these addicts’ freedom come out of your wallet — even the freedom to be free of addiction will come out of your wallet.

Which is why I want first time offenders to be “scared straight” by a bit of time in jail.

I’ll try to answer your question from my point of view, but can I ask you one first? Why only “most” narcotics?

hawkdriver on December 24, 2008 at 7:20 PM

Because some, by their very nature (PCP, for example), are likely to be harmful not only to the individual who chooses to use them, but to his fellow citizens who do not. Unfortunately, these substances must be regulated.